Viruses / Vaccines 2

Gern Blansten

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mickeyrat said:

 https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-army-27bacdba9d130fd5263e97b179124610

Army to immediately start discharging vaccine refusers

By LOLITA C. BALDOR

Today

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Army said Wednesday it will immediately begin discharging soldiers who have refused to get the mandatory COVID-19 vaccine, putting more than 3,300 service members at risk of being thrown out soon.

The Army's announcement makes it the final military service to lay out its discharge policy for vaccine refusers. The Marine Corps, Air Force and Navy have already discharged active-duty troops or entry-level personnel at boot camps for refusing the shots. So far, the Army has not discharged any.

According to data released by the Army last week, more than 3,300 soldiers have refused to get the vaccine. The Army has said that more than 3,000 soldiers have been issued official written reprimands, which suggests they are already identified in the disciplinary process, and some of them could be among the first to be discharged.

The Pentagon has ordered all service members — active-duty, National Guard and Reserves — to get the vaccine, saying it is critical to maintaining the health and readiness of the force. COVID-19 cases continue to surge around the country as a result of the omicron variant.

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Good...idiots

Those idiots put their lives on the line so you have freedom to call them idiots. Not taking a vaccine does not make anyone an idiot. It does however prove your ignorance.

No it makes them an idiot. Everyone but 3,300 that put their lives on the line obeyed orders.

How does that make them an idiot? For standing up for what they believe in? So you are saying they have low intelligence because they didn't get the vaccine? How many of them have already caught COVID? Natural immunity is better than the vaccine but for some reason that science isn't acceptable.

They don't get paid to stand up for what they believe in. 

there are roughly 500K in the Army...this is .66%.  That sounds about right for an idiot factor.

PJNB

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

Attempting to protect children is inexcusable? Come on..

Absolutely inexcusable going to these measures. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. 

Gern Blansten

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

Attempting to protect children is inexcusable? Come on..

Absolutely inexcusable going to these measures. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. 

LOL...oh the drama

JB16057

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

Attempting to protect children is inexcusable? Come on..

Absolutely inexcusable going to these measures. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. 

LOL...oh the drama

Youth suicide rates skyrocketed during this pandemic. Is that also funny to you?

PJNB

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

Attempting to protect children is inexcusable? Come on..

Absolutely inexcusable going to these measures. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. 

LOL...oh the drama

Drama? I am on a public forum talking to Pearl Jam fans about the struggles I am having as a parent with issues my kids are having at school that I fear will have a lasting affect on them. I guess thats drama and something to laugh about. Glad you and your family are fairing better than we are during these times. Cheers. 

Gern Blansten

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

Attempting to protect children is inexcusable? Come on..

Absolutely inexcusable going to these measures. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. 

LOL...oh the drama

Youth suicide rates skyrocketed during this pandemic. Is that also funny to you?

https://health.ucdavis.edu/news/headlines/even-before-covid-19-pandemic-youth-suicide-already-at-record-high/2021/04

do better

Gern Blansten

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

Attempting to protect children is inexcusable? Come on..

Absolutely inexcusable going to these measures. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. 

LOL...oh the drama

Drama? I am on a public forum talking to Pearl Jam fans about the struggles I am having as a parent with issues my kids are having at school that I fear will have a lasting affect on them. I guess thats drama and something to laugh about. Glad you and your family are fairing better than we are during these times. Cheers. 

Yes I'm sorry that people at your school are trying to keep your kids safe. Tragic

Gern Blansten

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

Attempting to protect children is inexcusable? Come on..

Absolutely inexcusable going to these measures. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. 

LOL...oh the drama

Drama? I am on a public forum talking to Pearl Jam fans about the struggles I am having as a parent with issues my kids are having at school that I fear will have a lasting affect on them. I guess thats drama and something to laugh about. Glad you and your family are fairing better than we are during these times. Cheers. 

I'm sorry but it's ridiculous to spout this "lasting affect" crap. 

mrussel1

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mickeyrat said:

 https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-army-27bacdba9d130fd5263e97b179124610

Army to immediately start discharging vaccine refusers

By LOLITA C. BALDOR

Today

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Army said Wednesday it will immediately begin discharging soldiers who have refused to get the mandatory COVID-19 vaccine, putting more than 3,300 service members at risk of being thrown out soon.

The Army's announcement makes it the final military service to lay out its discharge policy for vaccine refusers. The Marine Corps, Air Force and Navy have already discharged active-duty troops or entry-level personnel at boot camps for refusing the shots. So far, the Army has not discharged any.

According to data released by the Army last week, more than 3,300 soldiers have refused to get the vaccine. The Army has said that more than 3,000 soldiers have been issued official written reprimands, which suggests they are already identified in the disciplinary process, and some of them could be among the first to be discharged.

The Pentagon has ordered all service members — active-duty, National Guard and Reserves — to get the vaccine, saying it is critical to maintaining the health and readiness of the force. COVID-19 cases continue to surge around the country as a result of the omicron variant.

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Good...idiots

Those idiots put their lives on the line so you have freedom to call them idiots. Not taking a vaccine does not make anyone an idiot. It does however prove your ignorance.

No it makes them an idiot. Everyone but 3,300 that put their lives on the line obeyed orders.

How does that make them an idiot? For standing up for what they believe in? So you are saying they have low intelligence because they didn't get the vaccine? How many of them have already caught COVID? Natural immunity is better than the vaccine but for some reason that science isn't acceptable.

Edit: Point being is that you don't know each of their individual reasons for not taking the vaccine and it is ignorant to call all of them idiots for standing up for what they believe in, or don't believe in.

Their job is to be prepared to fight, to follow the chain of command.  The chain said vaccinate.  They should be discharged.  They’re lucky it’s honorable.  

JB16057

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

Attempting to protect children is inexcusable? Come on..

Absolutely inexcusable going to these measures. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. 

LOL...oh the drama

Drama? I am on a public forum talking to Pearl Jam fans about the struggles I am having as a parent with issues my kids are having at school that I fear will have a lasting affect on them. I guess thats drama and something to laugh about. Glad you and your family are fairing better than we are during these times. Cheers. 

I'm sorry but it's ridiculous to spout this "lasting affect" crap. 

Wow. You are truly a piece of work. You really don't have a fucking clue.....

Gern Blansten

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

Attempting to protect children is inexcusable? Come on..

Absolutely inexcusable going to these measures. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. 

LOL...oh the drama

Drama? I am on a public forum talking to Pearl Jam fans about the struggles I am having as a parent with issues my kids are having at school that I fear will have a lasting affect on them. I guess thats drama and something to laugh about. Glad you and your family are fairing better than we are during these times. Cheers. 

I'm sorry but it's ridiculous to spout this "lasting affect" crap. 

Wow. You are truly a piece of work. You really don't have a fucking clue.....

I've got four kids.  Believe me I do.

Plus I'm well versed in the right wing outrage bits

oh and...the suicide rate issue...care to address that?

PJNB

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

Attempting to protect children is inexcusable? Come on..

Absolutely inexcusable going to these measures. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. 

LOL...oh the drama

Drama? I am on a public forum talking to Pearl Jam fans about the struggles I am having as a parent with issues my kids are having at school that I fear will have a lasting affect on them. I guess thats drama and something to laugh about. Glad you and your family are fairing better than we are during these times. Cheers. 

I'm sorry but it's ridiculous to spout this "lasting affect" crap. 

Why do you think some of these things are not going to make a difference in our children's development? Why is it not ok for me as a parent to be concerned about it? Why are you not worrying about it? 

I expect I one sentence snappy reply. Something about our kids being resilient. 

Gern Blansten

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

I read a friends post on social media today that their kid is not allowed to talk in school while it’s lunch time since they are not wearing a mask. I thought that was crazy and maybe exaggerated a bit so I asked my kids if they are allowed to talk during lunch time while eating and they both said no. One said that they were told not to because they might spread germs. This is a 5 year old and a 7 year old. What the fuck. 

Another school just outside our area had a teacher email the parents to tell them to have a talk with their kids about not talking during recess and lunchtime. This will help them keep safe. The same teacher said they would have windows open throughout the day and the whole time while they eat. They recommended bringing an extra jacket or sweater cause it could get chilly. What the fuck. 

there's been a lot of really, really stupid policies put in place by teachers and/or administrators. a lot of it has been mind boggling. I'm sure it's super stressful and has to be really difficult to be a teacher, especially now, but common sense is often not the rule these days. 

At the start this was forgivable. Now it is inexcusable. Teachers have a tough job for sure. But common sense what’s best for our kids total health has gone out the window it seems, 

Attempting to protect children is inexcusable? Come on..

Absolutely inexcusable going to these measures. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. 

LOL...oh the drama

Drama? I am on a public forum talking to Pearl Jam fans about the struggles I am having as a parent with issues my kids are having at school that I fear will have a lasting affect on them. I guess thats drama and something to laugh about. Glad you and your family are fairing better than we are during these times. Cheers. 

I'm sorry but it's ridiculous to spout this "lasting affect" crap. 

Why do you think some of these things are not going to make a difference in our children's development? Why is it not ok for me as a parent to be concerned about it? Why are you not worrying about it? 

I expect I one sentence snappy reply. Something about our kids being resilient. 

Come on...kids are super resilient

Gern Blansten

Seriously though...no, this will not have any effect on their development.

Gern Blansten

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/benefits-of-kids-wearing-masks-in-school/

I'll believe the Mayo Clinic over Fox News

PJNB

Gern Blansten said:

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/benefits-of-kids-wearing-masks-in-school/

I'll believe the Mayo Clinic over Fox News

I am not sure why you keep bringing up fox news and rightwing bits. I am a Canadian who leans left. I think masks work. I do not think stopping my kids from socializing and talking with other kids while they sit at their desk and eat for 20 mins is a benefit to anyone. 

cblock4life

If Jesus Christ came down from the sky and told everyone to get vaccinated there would still be those who would not listen.  After all the vaccines given and all the people who survived them, how they’ve protected almost all from severe illness and death and all those unvaccinated who’ve been sick and died it proves the vaccine is safe. If everyone would have listened from the beginning this would be over by now. For gods sake even trump tells them to get vaccinated.  Bottom line, the unvaccinated are to blame. Period. 

AW124797

cblock4life said:

If Jesus Christ came down from the sky and told everyone to get vaccinated there would still be those who would not listen.  After all the vaccines given and all the people who survived them, how they’ve protected almost all from severe illness and death and all those unvaccinated who’ve been sick and died it proves the vaccine is safe. If everyone would have listened from the beginning this would be over by now. For gods sake even trump tells them to get vaccinated.  Bottom line, the unvaccinated are to blame. Period. 

What a load of horse manure.

HughFreakingDillon

Gern Blansten said:

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/benefits-of-kids-wearing-masks-in-school/

I'll believe the Mayo Clinic over Fox News

there is actually a real concern for the pre-school kids who go to daycare and mainly communicate through body language; a massive part of that is facial expressions. with them only seeing eyes and not the lower half of the face, there is real concern that this will affect their development. 

it's not something to so quickly dismiss. 

I don't know the affect that any of these things will have on school age kids. I'm sure it will be different for every age group, and depending on the kids. My kids, I'm sure, will be fine. The younger ones I'm concerned about. But there are a lot of kids my kids age that are struggling mightily with this; whether it be losing the social aspect or the disruptions to their learning routines with remote learning. or kids who's only escape from an abusive household is school. We won't know the real damage for many years, but again, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. This isn't only about masks, by the way. 

Halifax2TheMax