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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,353
    The portrayal of how things went down at Faux were not the “facts.”
    I’ll bite one last time. Did or did not fox create the vaccine mandate? Did or did not the City create the vaccine mandate? The answer is simple. Or should be.
  • mace1229 said:
    The portrayal of how things went down at Faux were not the “facts.”
    I’ll bite one last time. Did or did not fox create the vaccine mandate? Did or did not the City create the vaccine mandate? The answer is simple. Or should be.
    Did or did Faux have a 90% vaccination rate 6 months prior to NYC mandating it and did not Faux “require” an either/or?

    Your portrayal are not the “facts.”

    Did someone say disingenuous?
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,353
    mace1229 said:
    The portrayal of how things went down at Faux were not the “facts.”
    I’ll bite one last time. Did or did not fox create the vaccine mandate? Did or did not the City create the vaccine mandate? The answer is simple. Or should be.
    Did or did Faux have a 90% vaccination rate 6 months prior to NYC mandating it and did not Faux “require” an either/or?

    Your portrayal are not the “facts.”

    Did someone say disingenuous?
    The number of people who voluntarily got the vaccine is irrelevant. Voluntary =\= mandate
    Starting July you got to skip some health measure if you voluntarily showed proof of vaccine. Again, voluntarily showed proof =\= mandate.
    There was no required vaccine by fox until the city mandated it. City required vaccine does = mandate.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,353
    I don’t think mandate means what you think it means.
  • You Keep Using That Word GIFs  Tenor
  • mace1229 said:
    I don’t think mandate means what you think it means.
    You don’t consider an either/or proposition, provide proof of vaccination or make your work life more complicated/uncomfortable/less free, a mandate? Or coercion? Regardless, Faux was “requiring” something, other than “nothing” and well before NYC mandated it. You made it appear as if the only reason was because the city mandated that private employers’ staff be vaccinated and Faux didn’t want to pay fines. All the while just about every one of their talking mush brains were prattling on about freedumbs being taken away and tyranny and yet, Faux was the oppressor.

    Two questions, do we know what happened to staff who refused to be vaccinated? Were they fired? Did they all comply?

    For someone who claims not to watch Faux much, you seem to defend them regularly. Why is that?
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,353
    No, I don’t consider an either/or a mandate. They had safety protocols and measures. They said you can skip some of that if you voluntarily get vaxed and show proof. I don’t see how that falls under the terms of a mandate.

    I don’t know what happened to the staff who have refused since the city required it. I don’t know if they all complied. But the city will not allow them to work.

    Im not defending fox. I don’t like most of the people there. Someone posted a statement about fox that I’ve heard several times and decided to look for myself if it was true. Shared what I found.

    Many here reference Tucker and others quite often. I don’t recall the last time I’ve defended fox. I’m sure I’ve rebutted something someone said before, but it’s probably been a while.

    Lets move on from this topic. You seem to be the only one who thinks voluntarily showing vaccine card is a mandate, so it’s time to move on.
  • mace1229 said:
    No, I don’t consider an either/or a mandate. They had safety protocols and measures. They said you can skip some of that if you voluntarily get vaxed and show proof. I don’t see how that falls under the terms of a mandate.

    I don’t know what happened to the staff who have refused since the city required it. I don’t know if they all complied. But the city will not allow them to work.

    Im not defending fox. I don’t like most of the people there. Someone posted a statement about fox that I’ve heard several times and decided to look for myself if it was true. Shared what I found.

    Many here reference Tucker and others quite often. I don’t recall the last time I’ve defended fox. I’m sure I’ve rebutted something someone said before, but it’s probably been a while.

    Lets move on from this topic. You seem to be the only one who thinks voluntarily showing vaccine card is a mandate, so it’s time to move on.
    Again, your portrayal of how it went down were not the “facts” and that is what I take issue with. Is it “voluntary” when there are actions/consequences taken/required if you don’t comply? See the difference? It’s not like employees could just refuse to show their vax status and go about their day. Who knows, maybe they couldn’t eat in the cafeteria or had to eat alone, sit in a corner until their test results came in, not able to attend meetings that impacted their work, potentially screwing their career, etc. Faux was the oppressor before NYC went ballistic.

    Have a good day.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    I recall many fox hosts calling Biden's either or "mandate" a "mandate" for months last year. 
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  • mace1229 said:
    No, I don’t consider an either/or a mandate. They had safety protocols and measures. They said you can skip some of that if you voluntarily get vaxed and show proof. I don’t see how that falls under the terms of a mandate.

    I don’t know what happened to the staff who have refused since the city required it. I don’t know if they all complied. But the city will not allow them to work.

    Im not defending fox. I don’t like most of the people there. Someone posted a statement about fox that I’ve heard several times and decided to look for myself if it was true. Shared what I found.

    Many here reference Tucker and others quite often. I don’t recall the last time I’ve defended fox. I’m sure I’ve rebutted something someone said before, but it’s probably been a while.

    Lets move on from this topic. You seem to be the only one who thinks voluntarily showing vaccine card is a mandate, so it’s time to move on.
    Again, your portrayal of how it went down were not the “facts” and that is what I take issue with. Is it “voluntary” when there are actions/consequences taken/required if you don’t comply? See the difference? It’s not like employees could just refuse to show their vax status and go about their day. Who knows, maybe they couldn’t eat in the cafeteria or had to eat alone, sit in a corner until their test results came in, not able to attend meetings that impacted their work, potentially screwing their career, etc. Faux was the oppressor before NYC went ballistic.

    Have a good day.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mace1229 said:
    No, I don’t consider an either/or a mandate. They had safety protocols and measures. They said you can skip some of that if you voluntarily get vaxed and show proof. I don’t see how that falls under the terms of a mandate.

    I don’t know what happened to the staff who have refused since the city required it. I don’t know if they all complied. But the city will not allow them to work.

    Im not defending fox. I don’t like most of the people there. Someone posted a statement about fox that I’ve heard several times and decided to look for myself if it was true. Shared what I found.

    Many here reference Tucker and others quite often. I don’t recall the last time I’ve defended fox. I’m sure I’ve rebutted something someone said before, but it’s probably been a while.

    Lets move on from this topic. You seem to be the only one who thinks voluntarily showing vaccine card is a mandate, so it’s time to move on.
    Again, your portrayal of how it went down were not the “facts” and that is what I take issue with. Is it “voluntary” when there are actions/consequences taken/required if you don’t comply? See the difference? It’s not like employees could just refuse to show their vax status and go about their day. Who knows, maybe they couldn’t eat in the cafeteria or had to eat alone, sit in a corner until their test results came in, not able to attend meetings that impacted their work, potentially screwing their career, etc. Faux was the oppressor before NYC went ballistic.

    Have a good day.
    well, if it's not, then the entire premise of our justice system is in the toilet. I voluntarily don't break the law all the time. that's my choice. 
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  • mace1229 said:
    No, I don’t consider an either/or a mandate. They had safety protocols and measures. They said you can skip some of that if you voluntarily get vaxed and show proof. I don’t see how that falls under the terms of a mandate.

    I don’t know what happened to the staff who have refused since the city required it. I don’t know if they all complied. But the city will not allow them to work.

    Im not defending fox. I don’t like most of the people there. Someone posted a statement about fox that I’ve heard several times and decided to look for myself if it was true. Shared what I found.

    Many here reference Tucker and others quite often. I don’t recall the last time I’ve defended fox. I’m sure I’ve rebutted something someone said before, but it’s probably been a while.

    Lets move on from this topic. You seem to be the only one who thinks voluntarily showing vaccine card is a mandate, so it’s time to move on.
    Again, your portrayal of how it went down were not the “facts” and that is what I take issue with. Is it “voluntary” when there are actions/consequences taken/required if you don’t comply? See the difference? It’s not like employees could just refuse to show their vax status and go about their day. Who knows, maybe they couldn’t eat in the cafeteria or had to eat alone, sit in a corner until their test results came in, not able to attend meetings that impacted their work, potentially screwing their career, etc. Faux was the oppressor before NYC went ballistic.

    Have a good day.
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  • mace1229 said:
    No, I don’t consider an either/or a mandate. They had safety protocols and measures. They said you can skip some of that if you voluntarily get vaxed and show proof. I don’t see how that falls under the terms of a mandate.

    I don’t know what happened to the staff who have refused since the city required it. I don’t know if they all complied. But the city will not allow them to work.

    Im not defending fox. I don’t like most of the people there. Someone posted a statement about fox that I’ve heard several times and decided to look for myself if it was true. Shared what I found.

    Many here reference Tucker and others quite often. I don’t recall the last time I’ve defended fox. I’m sure I’ve rebutted something someone said before, but it’s probably been a while.

    Lets move on from this topic. You seem to be the only one who thinks voluntarily showing vaccine card is a mandate, so it’s time to move on.
    Again, your portrayal of how it went down were not the “facts” and that is what I take issue with. Is it “voluntary” when there are actions/consequences taken/required if you don’t comply? See the difference? It’s not like employees could just refuse to show their vax status and go about their day. Who knows, maybe they couldn’t eat in the cafeteria or had to eat alone, sit in a corner until their test results came in, not able to attend meetings that impacted their work, potentially screwing their career, etc. Faux was the oppressor before NYC went ballistic.

    Have a good day.
    well, if it's not, then the entire premise of our justice system is in the toilet. I voluntarily don't break the law all the time. that's my choice. 
    Just sometimes? You rebel.
    He said "all"...
  • mace1229 said:
    No, I don’t consider an either/or a mandate. They had safety protocols and measures. They said you can skip some of that if you voluntarily get vaxed and show proof. I don’t see how that falls under the terms of a mandate.

    I don’t know what happened to the staff who have refused since the city required it. I don’t know if they all complied. But the city will not allow them to work.

    Im not defending fox. I don’t like most of the people there. Someone posted a statement about fox that I’ve heard several times and decided to look for myself if it was true. Shared what I found.

    Many here reference Tucker and others quite often. I don’t recall the last time I’ve defended fox. I’m sure I’ve rebutted something someone said before, but it’s probably been a while.

    Lets move on from this topic. You seem to be the only one who thinks voluntarily showing vaccine card is a mandate, so it’s time to move on.
    Again, your portrayal of how it went down were not the “facts” and that is what I take issue with. Is it “voluntary” when there are actions/consequences taken/required if you don’t comply? See the difference? It’s not like employees could just refuse to show their vax status and go about their day. Who knows, maybe they couldn’t eat in the cafeteria or had to eat alone, sit in a corner until their test results came in, not able to attend meetings that impacted their work, potentially screwing their career, etc. Faux was the oppressor before NYC went ballistic.

    Have a good day.
    well, if it's not, then the entire premise of our justice system is in the toilet. I voluntarily don't break the law all the time. that's my choice. 
    Just sometimes? You rebel.
    He said "all"...
    ALL THE TIME



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  • mace1229 said:
    No, I don’t consider an either/or a mandate. They had safety protocols and measures. They said you can skip some of that if you voluntarily get vaxed and show proof. I don’t see how that falls under the terms of a mandate.

    I don’t know what happened to the staff who have refused since the city required it. I don’t know if they all complied. But the city will not allow them to work.

    Im not defending fox. I don’t like most of the people there. Someone posted a statement about fox that I’ve heard several times and decided to look for myself if it was true. Shared what I found.

    Many here reference Tucker and others quite often. I don’t recall the last time I’ve defended fox. I’m sure I’ve rebutted something someone said before, but it’s probably been a while.

    Lets move on from this topic. You seem to be the only one who thinks voluntarily showing vaccine card is a mandate, so it’s time to move on.
    Again, your portrayal of how it went down were not the “facts” and that is what I take issue with. Is it “voluntary” when there are actions/consequences taken/required if you don’t comply? See the difference? It’s not like employees could just refuse to show their vax status and go about their day. Who knows, maybe they couldn’t eat in the cafeteria or had to eat alone, sit in a corner until their test results came in, not able to attend meetings that impacted their work, potentially screwing their career, etc. Faux was the oppressor before NYC went ballistic.

    Have a good day.
    well, if it's not, then the entire premise of our justice system is in the toilet. I voluntarily don't break the law all the time. that's my choice. 
    Just sometimes? You rebel.
    He said "all"...
    ALL THE TIME



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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    mace1229 said:
    No, I don’t consider an either/or a mandate. They had safety protocols and measures. They said you can skip some of that if you voluntarily get vaxed and show proof. I don’t see how that falls under the terms of a mandate.

    I don’t know what happened to the staff who have refused since the city required it. I don’t know if they all complied. But the city will not allow them to work.

    Im not defending fox. I don’t like most of the people there. Someone posted a statement about fox that I’ve heard several times and decided to look for myself if it was true. Shared what I found.

    Many here reference Tucker and others quite often. I don’t recall the last time I’ve defended fox. I’m sure I’ve rebutted something someone said before, but it’s probably been a while.

    Lets move on from this topic. You seem to be the only one who thinks voluntarily showing vaccine card is a mandate, so it’s time to move on.
    Again, your portrayal of how it went down were not the “facts” and that is what I take issue with. Is it “voluntary” when there are actions/consequences taken/required if you don’t comply? See the difference? It’s not like employees could just refuse to show their vax status and go about their day. Who knows, maybe they couldn’t eat in the cafeteria or had to eat alone, sit in a corner until their test results came in, not able to attend meetings that impacted their work, potentially screwing their career, etc. Faux was the oppressor before NYC went ballistic.

    Have a good day.
    well, if it's not, then the entire premise of our justice system is in the toilet. I voluntarily don't break the law all the time. that's my choice. 
    Exactly.  If there is another option at all then it's voluntary....weird hill to die on.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    mace1229 said:
    No, I don’t consider an either/or a mandate. They had safety protocols and measures. They said you can skip some of that if you voluntarily get vaxed and show proof. I don’t see how that falls under the terms of a mandate.

    I don’t know what happened to the staff who have refused since the city required it. I don’t know if they all complied. But the city will not allow them to work.

    Im not defending fox. I don’t like most of the people there. Someone posted a statement about fox that I’ve heard several times and decided to look for myself if it was true. Shared what I found.

    Many here reference Tucker and others quite often. I don’t recall the last time I’ve defended fox. I’m sure I’ve rebutted something someone said before, but it’s probably been a while.

    Lets move on from this topic. You seem to be the only one who thinks voluntarily showing vaccine card is a mandate, so it’s time to move on.
    Again, your portrayal of how it went down were not the “facts” and that is what I take issue with. Is it “voluntary” when there are actions/consequences taken/required if you don’t comply? See the difference? It’s not like employees could just refuse to show their vax status and go about their day. Who knows, maybe they couldn’t eat in the cafeteria or had to eat alone, sit in a corner until their test results came in, not able to attend meetings that impacted their work, potentially screwing their career, etc. Faux was the oppressor before NYC went ballistic.

    Have a good day.
    well, if it's not, then the entire premise of our justice system is in the toilet. I voluntarily don't break the law all the time. that's my choice. 
    Just sometimes? You rebel.
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  • mace1229 said:
    No, I don’t consider an either/or a mandate. They had safety protocols and measures. They said you can skip some of that if you voluntarily get vaxed and show proof. I don’t see how that falls under the terms of a mandate.

    I don’t know what happened to the staff who have refused since the city required it. I don’t know if they all complied. But the city will not allow them to work.

    Im not defending fox. I don’t like most of the people there. Someone posted a statement about fox that I’ve heard several times and decided to look for myself if it was true. Shared what I found.

    Many here reference Tucker and others quite often. I don’t recall the last time I’ve defended fox. I’m sure I’ve rebutted something someone said before, but it’s probably been a while.

    Lets move on from this topic. You seem to be the only one who thinks voluntarily showing vaccine card is a mandate, so it’s time to move on.
    Again, your portrayal of how it went down were not the “facts” and that is what I take issue with. Is it “voluntary” when there are actions/consequences taken/required if you don’t comply? See the difference? It’s not like employees could just refuse to show their vax status and go about their day. Who knows, maybe they couldn’t eat in the cafeteria or had to eat alone, sit in a corner until their test results came in, not able to attend meetings that impacted their work, potentially screwing their career, etc. Faux was the oppressor before NYC went ballistic.

    Have a good day.
    well, if it's not, then the entire premise of our justice system is in the toilet. I voluntarily don't break the law all the time. that's my choice. 
    Exactly.  If there is another option at all then it's voluntary....weird hill to die on.
    Who’s dying? It was a misrepresentation of the “facts” to claim it all went down when NYC mandated vaccines in December and claim as “fact” that faux “didn’t require anything.” Mace didn’t say “faux didn’t require vaccination.” He said, “faux didn’t require ‘anything’.” Faux required lots of things prior to the NYC vaccination mandate.

    I get it, “facts” don’t matter to some. RIP.
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    edited February 2022
    So what is going on with the blue US states with restrictions going forward? Do states like NY and California have paths to dropping all of them by a certain date? In Canada most provinces have dates to lift all restrictions by the end of March and I am curious where some of you guys are at. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,512
    edited February 2022
    PJNB said:
    So what is going on with the blue US states with restrictions going forward? Do states like NY and California have paths to dropping all of them by a certain date? In Canada most provinces have dates to lift all restrictions by the end of March and I am curious where some of you guys are at. 

    gonna depend on case counts and hospitalizations in relation to available beds I would hope.

    be smart about it.....

    am wondering now about the vax required shows up to this point. will that still hold....
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    So what is going on with the blue US states with restrictions going forward? Do states like NY and California have paths to dropping all of them by a certain date? In Canada most provinces have dates to lift all restrictions by the end of March and I am curious where some of you guys are at. 

    gonna depend on case counts and hospitalizations in relation to available beds I would hope.

    be smart about it.....

    am wondering now about the vax required shows up to this point. will that still hold....
    Are they not nose diving like they are up here? 

    As of the end of this month there will no longer be any restrictions on non vaxed where I live. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,512
    PJNB said:
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    So what is going on with the blue US states with restrictions going forward? Do states like NY and California have paths to dropping all of them by a certain date? In Canada most provinces have dates to lift all restrictions by the end of March and I am curious where some of you guys are at. 

    gonna depend on case counts and hospitalizations in relation to available beds I would hope.

    be smart about it.....

    am wondering now about the vax required shows up to this point. will that still hold....
    Are they not nose diving like they are up here? 

    As of the end of this month there will no longer be any restrictions on non vaxed where I live. 

    I am in Columbus , Franklin County....




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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    Massachusetts is done with all mitigation efforts on February 28, I think. 

    Municipalities, private businesses, public organizations, etc. can still post their own mitigation efforts—for instance, our suburban school district will maintain masking until March 14, and my urban office building will still require masking in common areas for the foreseeable future—but the commonwealth has been waving the white flag for a while now.  

    Oh, the Boston mayor also recently did away with the city’s proof-of-vaccination mandate, but my wife and daughter still had to show it to get into the Billie Eilish concert—and my son and I will likely still be required to show ours at Jack White’s concert around six weeks from now. 


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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,831
    PJNB said:
    So what is going on with the blue US states with restrictions going forward? Do states like NY and California have paths to dropping all of them by a certain date? In Canada most provinces have dates to lift all restrictions by the end of March and I am curious where some of you guys are at. 
    Illinois is dropping mask mandates as of the end of the month for most places, with the exception of schools. However, there was a lawsuit challenging mask mandates in schools that through an issued TRO, has resulted in most districts in the State making masks optional until the lawsuit is resolved. Pritzer appealed the TRO, but was denied. In the end that lawsuit will probably be successfully, so the school mask mandate will officially end. 
  • Can anyone spot the common theme between what we're seeing here and putin on the ritz's Ukraine invasion? This country is fucked, Way too far gone to recover from the stupidity.

    This hospital tried to save a man with covid. Then the threats started.

    The group that targeted the hospital calls itself the Truth Seekers 88. Mike Penny, a leader, is based in North Carolina and regularly posts videos and hosts chats on platforms such as Facebook and Telegram. The lengthy videos offer a stream of QAnon conspiracy theories claiming that former president Donald Trump will save the country from the grip of a child-trafficking cabal and that his return to power is all part of a plan.

    “My spirit is led by God, obviously, and that’s how the group got founded,” said Penny, 53. “Q has led a lot of people to God in this difficult time.”

    During the pandemic, the conspiracy theories embraced by groups such as Penny’s have evolved to incorporate not just anti-vaccine disinformation but also falsehoods about doctors and the medical establishment. Penny and his group refer to remdesivir, a medication approved by the Food and Drug Administration, as the “r-devil” drug and claim, without evidence, that it kills covid patients — while embracing ivermectin as a lifesaving treatment.

    In an interview with The Post, Penny likened medical professionals to Nazi war criminals, saying they would face a new version of the Nuremberg trials for their actions during the pandemic.

    In New Hampshire, a hospital faced threats over its treatment of a covid patient - The Washington Post

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  • Can anyone spot the common theme between what we're seeing here and putin on the ritz's Ukraine invasion? This country is fucked, Way too far gone to recover from the stupidity.

    This hospital tried to save a man with covid. Then the threats started.

    The group that targeted the hospital calls itself the Truth Seekers 88. Mike Penny, a leader, is based in North Carolina and regularly posts videos and hosts chats on platforms such as Facebook and Telegram. The lengthy videos offer a stream of QAnon conspiracy theories claiming that former president Donald Trump will save the country from the grip of a child-trafficking cabal and that his return to power is all part of a plan.

    “My spirit is led by God, obviously, and that’s how the group got founded,” said Penny, 53. “Q has led a lot of people to God in this difficult time.”

    During the pandemic, the conspiracy theories embraced by groups such as Penny’s have evolved to incorporate not just anti-vaccine disinformation but also falsehoods about doctors and the medical establishment. Penny and his group refer to remdesivir, a medication approved by the Food and Drug Administration, as the “r-devil” drug and claim, without evidence, that it kills covid patients — while embracing ivermectin as a lifesaving treatment.

    In an interview with The Post, Penny likened medical professionals to Nazi war criminals, saying they would face a new version of the Nuremberg trials for their actions during the pandemic.

    In New Hampshire, a hospital faced threats over its treatment of a covid patient - The Washington Post

    I would have let them sign that patient out and let them handle it since they know better.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,886
    dankind said:


    Oh, the Boston mayor also recently did away with the city’s proof-of-vaccination mandate, but my wife and daughter still had to show it to get into the Billie Eilish concert—and my son and I will likely still be required to show ours at Jack White’s concert around six weeks from now. 


    Yeah, The Garden kept the Vax mandate through the weekend after the city lifted it on Friday, so folks who went to Tool and Billie Eilish had to show proof. Shouldn't have been a big deal as they were expecting to have to show it when they bought tix (unless they caught a day of release).
    They lifted it at Garden on Monday, said they will still honor any artist requests for proof of vax if they should occur.

    City still has mask mandate, that will probably be lifted soon though.
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    dankind said:
    Massachusetts is done with all mitigation efforts on February 28, I think. 

    Municipalities, private businesses, public organizations, etc. can still post their own mitigation efforts—for instance, our suburban school district will maintain masking until March 14, and my urban office building will still require masking in common areas for the foreseeable future—but the commonwealth has been waving the white flag for a while now.  

    Oh, the Boston mayor also recently did away with the city’s proof-of-vaccination mandate, but my wife and daughter still had to show it to get into the Billie Eilish concert—and my son and I will likely still be required to show ours at Jack White’s concert around six weeks from now. 


    Interesting those two dates line up with pretty much exactly what my province is doing. 

  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,750
    Can anyone spot the common theme between what we're seeing here and putin on the ritz's Ukraine invasion? This country is fucked, Way too far gone to recover from the stupidity.

    This hospital tried to save a man with covid. Then the threats started.

    The group that targeted the hospital calls itself the Truth Seekers 88. Mike Penny, a leader, is based in North Carolina and regularly posts videos and hosts chats on platforms such as Facebook and Telegram. The lengthy videos offer a stream of QAnon conspiracy theories claiming that former president Donald Trump will save the country from the grip of a child-trafficking cabal and that his return to power is all part of a plan.

    “My spirit is led by God, obviously, and that’s how the group got founded,” said Penny, 53. “Q has led a lot of people to God in this difficult time.”

    During the pandemic, the conspiracy theories embraced by groups such as Penny’s have evolved to incorporate not just anti-vaccine disinformation but also falsehoods about doctors and the medical establishment. Penny and his group refer to remdesivir, a medication approved by the Food and Drug Administration, as the “r-devil” drug and claim, without evidence, that it kills covid patients — while embracing ivermectin as a lifesaving treatment.

    In an interview with The Post, Penny likened medical professionals to Nazi war criminals, saying they would face a new version of the Nuremberg trials for their actions during the pandemic.

    In New Hampshire, a hospital faced threats over its treatment of a covid patient - The Washington Post

    Another prime example of just how stupid these Q conspiracy theory nut jobs are.

    He likened "medical professionals to nazi war criminals" but has 88 in the name of his little club.
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