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https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”
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@Spiritual_Chaos ya better get tested 😉mrussel1 said:
This is day 3. On a scale of 1-10, it’s a 2. Little stuffy and tired but that is it. Today is better than yesterday so I expect it’s almost over. Super weird dreams though.RunIntoTheRain said:"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”
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Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "
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Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.0 -
has halifax said, the key is "surviving". they are comparing those vaxxed vs those unvaxxed and had covid. Who in their right mind wants to take that chance?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
I have no issue with people who have been infected and have natural immunity being exempt from vaccination for a time. But what is that time frame? I don't even understand, to be honest, how people who got their second shot more than 6 months ago can still be considered "fully vaccinated", when the science tells us without the booster, their immunity is very very low.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
What would you be willing to bet?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
And if someone had COVID twice, that doesn't say a lot for the natural immunity they received from the first bout, does it?0 -
If someone had the vaccine and gets sick with covid, that doesn't say a lot for the efficacy of the vaccine, does it?mrussel1 said:
What would you be willing to bet?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
And if someone had COVID twice, that doesn't say a lot for the natural immunity they received from the first bout, does it?
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The vaccine has never been declared 100% effective, even with the original variant for which it was designed. But you're the one that just made the statement. So let's compare apples to apples. For someone that has been vaccinated, boosted and yet get Omicron, do you think their forward immunity is worse than said person who had Covid twice?JB16057 said:
If someone had the vaccine and gets sick with covid, that doesn't say a lot for the efficacy of the vaccine, does it?mrussel1 said:
What would you be willing to bet?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
And if someone had COVID twice, that doesn't say a lot for the natural immunity they received from the first bout, does it?0 -
mrussel1 said:
The vaccine has never been declared 100% effective, even with the original variant for which it was designed. But you're the one that just made the statement. So let's compare apples to apples. For someone that has been vaccinated, boosted and yet get Omicron, do you think their forward immunity is worse than said person who had Covid twice?JB16057 said:
If someone had the vaccine and gets sick with covid, that doesn't say a lot for the efficacy of the vaccine, does it?mrussel1 said:
What would you be willing to bet?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
And if someone had COVID twice, that doesn't say a lot for the natural immunity they received from the first bout, does it?The vaccine WAS declared 100% effective.As for your other question, I am not a doctor so I don't know.
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prove that. I never once saw anywhere it said 100%. I saw upwards of 95% against the original strain. but not 100.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
The vaccine has never been declared 100% effective, even with the original variant for which it was designed. But you're the one that just made the statement. So let's compare apples to apples. For someone that has been vaccinated, boosted and yet get Omicron, do you think their forward immunity is worse than said person who had Covid twice?JB16057 said:
If someone had the vaccine and gets sick with covid, that doesn't say a lot for the efficacy of the vaccine, does it?mrussel1 said:
What would you be willing to bet?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
And if someone had COVID twice, that doesn't say a lot for the natural immunity they received from the first bout, does it?The vaccine WAS declared 100% effective.As for your other question, I am not a doctor so I don't know.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
The vaccine has never been declared 100% effective, even with the original variant for which it was designed. But you're the one that just made the statement. So let's compare apples to apples. For someone that has been vaccinated, boosted and yet get Omicron, do you think their forward immunity is worse than said person who had Covid twice?JB16057 said:
If someone had the vaccine and gets sick with covid, that doesn't say a lot for the efficacy of the vaccine, does it?mrussel1 said:
What would you be willing to bet?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
And if someone had COVID twice, that doesn't say a lot for the natural immunity they received from the first bout, does it?The vaccine WAS declared 100% effective.
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Jesus christ no it wasn'tJB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
The vaccine has never been declared 100% effective, even with the original variant for which it was designed. But you're the one that just made the statement. So let's compare apples to apples. For someone that has been vaccinated, boosted and yet get Omicron, do you think their forward immunity is worse than said person who had Covid twice?JB16057 said:
If someone had the vaccine and gets sick with covid, that doesn't say a lot for the efficacy of the vaccine, does it?mrussel1 said:
What would you be willing to bet?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
And if someone had COVID twice, that doesn't say a lot for the natural immunity they received from the first bout, does it?The vaccine WAS declared 100% effective.As for your other question, I am not a doctor so I don't know.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
The vaccine has never been declared 100% effective, even with the original variant for which it was designed. But you're the one that just made the statement. So let's compare apples to apples. For someone that has been vaccinated, boosted and yet get Omicron, do you think their forward immunity is worse than said person who had Covid twice?JB16057 said:
If someone had the vaccine and gets sick with covid, that doesn't say a lot for the efficacy of the vaccine, does it?mrussel1 said:
What would you be willing to bet?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
And if someone had COVID twice, that doesn't say a lot for the natural immunity they received from the first bout, does it?The vaccine WAS declared 100% effective.As for your other question, I am not a doctor so I don't know.HughFreakingDillon said:
prove that. I never once saw anywhere it said 100%. I saw upwards of 95% against the original strain. but not 100.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
The vaccine has never been declared 100% effective, even with the original variant for which it was designed. But you're the one that just made the statement. So let's compare apples to apples. For someone that has been vaccinated, boosted and yet get Omicron, do you think their forward immunity is worse than said person who had Covid twice?JB16057 said:
If someone had the vaccine and gets sick with covid, that doesn't say a lot for the efficacy of the vaccine, does it?mrussel1 said:
What would you be willing to bet?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
And if someone had COVID twice, that doesn't say a lot for the natural immunity they received from the first bout, does it?The vaccine WAS declared 100% effective.As for your other question, I am not a doctor so I don't know.
Yeah, I'd like to see that proven (it won't be). JB, that limb your out on is a twig.
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HughFreakingDillon said:
prove that. I never once saw anywhere it said 100%. I saw upwards of 95% against the original strain. but not 100.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
The vaccine has never been declared 100% effective, even with the original variant for which it was designed. But you're the one that just made the statement. So let's compare apples to apples. For someone that has been vaccinated, boosted and yet get Omicron, do you think their forward immunity is worse than said person who had Covid twice?JB16057 said:
If someone had the vaccine and gets sick with covid, that doesn't say a lot for the efficacy of the vaccine, does it?mrussel1 said:
What would you be willing to bet?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
And if someone had COVID twice, that doesn't say a lot for the natural immunity they received from the first bout, does it?The vaccine WAS declared 100% effective.As for your other question, I am not a doctor so I don't know.mrna was 95% I believe for both.j&j was 70% as I recall for the single shot.at 6 months mrna dropped to about 50 to 60%boostered ups it to 98%it was seen as effective against delta too. not omicron.its probable those vaxxed who got delta were at the lower end of the efficacy range depending on time of last shot to when to contracted deltaI seem to recall mrna prevented death 100%. against the virus it was designed for. that tidbit is critical when making any argument for or against._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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How does it feel to be corrected by six straight posts? Maybe, just maybe you are not getting your information from the right places.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
The vaccine has never been declared 100% effective, even with the original variant for which it was designed. But you're the one that just made the statement. So let's compare apples to apples. For someone that has been vaccinated, boosted and yet get Omicron, do you think their forward immunity is worse than said person who had Covid twice?JB16057 said:
If someone had the vaccine and gets sick with covid, that doesn't say a lot for the efficacy of the vaccine, does it?mrussel1 said:
What would you be willing to bet?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
And if someone had COVID twice, that doesn't say a lot for the natural immunity they received from the first bout, does it?The vaccine WAS declared 100% effective.As for your other question, I am not a doctor so I don't know.
Now you say you aren't a doctor so you don't know... but two posts ago you made a statement that you were willing to bet on. Did you just lose your license to practice medicine in the last 20 minutes?0 -
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"People vaccinated for COVID-19 “do not spread the disease to anyone else." - Joe Biden"During the July 21 event in Cincinnati, Biden said, "You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations." - Joe Bidenhere's another news story for the above quote, https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-spread-misinformation-covid-vaccines-1612181"Pfizer Says COVID-19 Vaccine Shows '100% Efficacy' In Adolescents""Covid-19: Pfizer reports 100% vaccine efficacy in children aged 12 to 15""Bharat Biotech’s Covid-19 vaccine shows 100% efficacy in study"
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Holy shit, know less.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
The vaccine has never been declared 100% effective, even with the original variant for which it was designed. But you're the one that just made the statement. So let's compare apples to apples. For someone that has been vaccinated, boosted and yet get Omicron, do you think their forward immunity is worse than said person who had Covid twice?JB16057 said:
If someone had the vaccine and gets sick with covid, that doesn't say a lot for the efficacy of the vaccine, does it?mrussel1 said:
What would you be willing to bet?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Key word, "surviving." Too bad it didn't work for 890,000 'Muricans. Should have just rode herd.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:https://fox59.com/news/national-world/nurse-who-refused-vaccine-for-herself-and-her-kids-contracts-covid-for-a-second-time/?fbclid=IwAR0uDd7BbDhBGs6mPz8LGwjV_x9MqapipalstnGMgcgGkI23frWqVJAFxAEWhen asked if Camile had any regrets about not getting the vaccine after getting COVID twice and working with cancer patients, she said, “No. If I had omicron, as they say, I’m protected against Delta and COVID.”moron
Do you believe in science? https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow"The report finally acknowledges what many have suspected for a long time — that surviving COVID-19 provides excellent natural immunity not only repeat infection but also to hospitalization and death for the delta variant of COVID-19. "Natural immunity provided better protection than vaccines for the Delta variant. Some didn't get the chance to get the vaccine before getting sick. If someone has had covid twice, I would be willing to bet their immunity is better than many of the people that are only vaccinated.
And if someone had COVID twice, that doesn't say a lot for the natural immunity they received from the first bout, does it?The vaccine WAS declared 100% effective.As for your other question, I am not a doctor so I don't know.
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none of that is what you initially said.JB16057 said:"People vaccinated for COVID-19 “do not spread the disease to anyone else." - Joe Biden"During the July 21 event in Cincinnati, Biden said, "You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations." - Joe Bidenhere's another news story for the above quote, https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-spread-misinformation-covid-vaccines-1612181"Pfizer Says COVID-19 Vaccine Shows '100% Efficacy' In Adolescents""Covid-19: Pfizer reports 100% vaccine efficacy in children aged 12 to 15""Bharat Biotech’s Covid-19 vaccine shows 100% efficacy in study"Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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