2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • Quebec lifting all restrictions on Feb 28th so no reason to wait for a Fall tour here! Let’s stick to the May plan. 

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  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,848
    edited February 2022
    Are we still thinking Europe is a go?  I haven’t paid attention at all to how concerts are going on over there

    EV seemed confident that they were headed there in the Bateman interview.  I keep forgetting that I even have tickets to the Amsterdam shows amidst all of the May tour rumors 

    Also, I’m starting to think that SA rumor for September isn’t true, as those shows are usually announced way ahead of time 
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  • drfoxdrfox Posts: 1,319
    edited February 2022
    Are we still thinking Europe is a go?  I haven’t paid attention at all to how concerts are going on over there

    EV seemed confident that they were headed there in the Bateman interview.  I keep forgetting that I even have tickets to the Amsterdam shows amidst all of the May tour rumors 

    Also, I’m starting to think that SA rumor for September isn’t true, as those shows are usually announced way ahead of time 

    I’m hoping so. Here in the U.K. we have some reasonably popular bands playing at the moment, in indoor arenas and theatres. Going to see Wolf Alice in 10 days at a 5000 capacity indoor theatre and Idles are touring at the moment. We also have bands playing at the O2, Wembley and Manchester arenas etc - in fact the Brit awards are on this evening at the London O2 to a capacity audience.  U.K. is full steam ahead, as is Denmark etc. A few other places though still have restrictions eg Holland, Germany. Has resulted in some bands (eg Royal Blood) cancelling around a quarter of their March tour (German, Swiss dates etc) but playing in U.K., Belgium, Ireland, Holland (unlocks on 8 March) etc. 

    My guess is most of the other countries will be unlocked by Easter. 
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  • Not saying this in a negative light, but: the longer they hold out, the more people refund. The more tickets refunded, the more tickets can be purchased back on ticketmaster for platinum pricing. Double profits for tickets they know will sell.
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  • Quebec lifting all restrictions on Feb 28th so no reason to wait for a Fall tour here! Let’s stick to the May plan. 
    Just saw this news! Technically they said March 14. But I give you the win anyway!  Lol. 

    Ontario has previously said full capacity - March 21. This is super exciting! Let’s book this thing for May!
  • woolyman said:
    Quebec lifting all restrictions on Feb 28th so no reason to wait for a Fall tour here! Let’s stick to the May plan. 
    Just saw this news! Technically they said March 14. But I give you the win anyway!  Lol. 

    Ontario has previously said full capacity - March 21. This is super exciting! Let’s book this thing for May!
    I don’t trust either of the relevant Canadian provinces not to revert to restrictions.  I also think the federal Government needs to simplify border crossing and not go backwards on that. I don’t trust that either and I’m just one person.  I don’t see how a multi million dollar business venture can trust it when they have relative certainty in the states.  

    I’d rather the Cdn shows get fall dates for reliability and let those of us brave enough to risk the border rules venture into the USA in May.  
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,394
    Not saying this in a negative light, but: the longer they hold out, the more people refund. The more tickets refunded, the more tickets can be purchased back on ticketmaster for platinum pricing. Double profits for tickets they know will sell.
    Ugh. Depressing if true.
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  • DoDaFooDoDaFoo Posts: 250
    I still don't think they're going to do platinum tickets for PJ shows (despite the EV shows having them).
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,848
    DoDaFoo said:
    I still don't think they're going to do platinum tickets for PJ shows (despite the EV shows having them).
    I will be absolutely stunned if they do not have platinum tickets.  It's almost standard/guaranteed for any event on Ticketmaster now.
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  • GibsonGibson Posts: 2,645
    RS65573 said:
    I refunded all my shows. So thats 2 first 10 row tickets for each. I wasnt going to let TM hold my money on sheer principle, and I also believed (still do) they cant handle the logistics of this and will cancel and reschedule anyway.

    Either way, you can always get a ticket a day before the show or 2 if you try. Always.
    Correct. While I always had confidence that I could score a decent ticket for a decent band within 48 hours of showtime, I now give 0 fucks when it comes to the heavyweights. Someone posted today (I think on FB) that Eddie had $50 tickets on the 'HUB. Even though I had no intention of hitting any of his solo shows (travel and expense-wise are the factors - I'd have loved a show in Toronto)............I feel 1000x more confident when a big name hits a small venue nearby.

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  • uglybabouglybabo Posts: 523
    woolyman said:
    Quebec lifting all restrictions on Feb 28th so no reason to wait for a Fall tour here! Let’s stick to the May plan. 
    Just saw this news! Technically they said March 14. But I give you the win anyway!  Lol. 

    Ontario has previously said full capacity - March 21. This is super exciting! Let’s book this thing for May!
    I don’t trust either of the relevant Canadian provinces not to revert to restrictions.  I also think the federal Government needs to simplify border crossing and not go backwards on that. I don’t trust that either and I’m just one person.  I don’t see how a multi million dollar business venture can trust it when they have relative certainty in the states.  

    I’d rather the Cdn shows get fall dates for reliability and let those of us brave enough to risk the border rules venture into the USA in May.  
    If you don’t trust the two provinces to revert to restrictions, then waiting till the fall isn’t the answer.

    If we’re open in May/June I’d rather get the dates then instead of waiting for some other variant to close us up again. 

    For the states I don’t think any restrictions or lockdowns are coming back, so a fall tour there makes more sense. 
  • GibsonGibson Posts: 2,645
    edited February 2022
    uglybabo said:
    woolyman said:
    Quebec lifting all restrictions on Feb 28th so no reason to wait for a Fall tour here! Let’s stick to the May plan. 
    Just saw this news! Technically they said March 14. But I give you the win anyway!  Lol. 

    Ontario has previously said full capacity - March 21. This is super exciting! Let’s book this thing for May!
    I don’t trust either of the relevant Canadian provinces not to revert to restrictions.  I also think the federal Government needs to simplify border crossing and not go backwards on that. I don’t trust that either and I’m just one person.  I don’t see how a multi million dollar business venture can trust it when they have relative certainty in the states.  

    I’d rather the Cdn shows get fall dates for reliability and let those of us brave enough to risk the border rules venture into the USA in May.  
    If you don’t trust the two provinces to revert to restrictions, then waiting till the fall isn’t the answer.

    If we’re open in May/June I’d rather get the dates then instead of waiting for some other variant to close us up again. 

    For the states I don’t think any restrictions or lockdowns are coming back, so a fall tour there makes more sense. 
    Also correct. I don't think Pearl Jam is eyeing Canadian cities and using them as the holdout for announcing the tour. Everything is locked in at this point and it's just a matter of timing.

    As a Torontonian, if we get a date, we get one; if we don't, we don't. If we get a date and it gets postponed or cancelled, I'll add it to the other 35 shows I had tickets for and chug a few more beers to ease the pain.

    (and yes I have tickets to Hamilton, Ottawa and Quebec -which I know is out of province- my post is more of a general point than a city specific demand.)
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    DoDaFoo said:
    I still don't think they're going to do platinum tickets for PJ shows (despite the EV shows having them).
    Why? 
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    I do not see I do not see platinum tickets for PJ and I definitely do not see them from refunded tickets. Hope I am right with that.
  • DoDaFooDoDaFoo Posts: 250
    JimmyV said:
    DoDaFoo said:
    I still don't think they're going to do platinum tickets for PJ shows (despite the EV shows having them).
    Why? 
    Platinum tickets were already pretty standard when PJ announced these shows back in 2020 (and even back in 2018 when they did the Home and Away shows). The band didn't have them then and I don't believe they will now. Platinum tickets being offered are left up to the bands. I think Eddie was ok with them for his shows, but don't think PJ as a whole will be.

  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,921
    I don't understand everything about platinum, but for PJ shows the best seats in the house go to Ten Club.  It would be interesting to have tickets sold at a higher amount then Ten Club for seats that are worse than Ten Club. I also don't see PJ charging $400 a ticket for Ten Club.  
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    DoDaFoo said:
    JimmyV said:
    DoDaFoo said:
    I still don't think they're going to do platinum tickets for PJ shows (despite the EV shows having them).
    Why? 
    Platinum tickets were already pretty standard when PJ announced these shows back in 2020 (and even back in 2018 when they did the Home and Away shows). The band didn't have them then and I don't believe they will now. Platinum tickets being offered are left up to the bands. I think Eddie was ok with them for his shows, but don't think PJ as a whole will be.

    Interesting. I do hope you are right. 
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  • uglybabouglybabo Posts: 523
    I don't understand everything about platinum, but for PJ shows the best seats in the house go to Ten Club.  It would be interesting to have tickets sold at a higher amount then Ten Club for seats that are worse than Ten Club. I also don't see PJ charging $400 a ticket for Ten Club.  
    The Ten Club gets most of the good seats, but I’ve seen tickets in the general on sale better than some ten club seats. 

    And they were selling Vitalogy seats for this tour that were better than some fan club seats. That was for charity, but there are always some seats for sale that are better than some fan club seats. 
  • remember there was some crazy good/expensive tickets that Sawyer got back in the day that he was utterly flamed for? it was a festival...PJ20 maybe?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,421
    remember there was some crazy good/expensive tickets that Sawyer got back in the day that he was utterly flamed for? it was a festival...PJ20 maybe?
    Damn yeah I don’t remember everything that went down but def remember something about it 🤣🤣
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  • uglybabouglybabo Posts: 523
    If they sell platinum tickets, just wait for the thread where people lose the 10 club lottery where the tickets are $100 and then the equivalent seats are $750 through Ticketmaster. 
  • rhinomagicrhinomagic Posts: 2,549
    Crew said:
    estarr31 said:
    The BAL news sucks for that show but this honestly is good news for the tour IMO. Means they're making moves. BAL only getting cancelled b/c that arena is undergoing renovations until Feb 2023. Cancellation is a last resort for them. 

    It has zero bearings on a Fall tour as well. They could play in BAL or just skip it and play PHI/NY which is probably the original plan. 
    Some of us only had that show, and we don't care about how good it is for news on the rest of the tour.  

    It's even more salt in the wound that there's literally been no communication straight from the band yet, with the exception of that news blurb from yesterday that is buried on the site.  There are probably people who still don't know.

    JimmyV said:
    tdawe said:
    I don’t want to be too negative, but I read the straight cancellation of Baltimore without any plan for restitution as a pretty bad sign for the prospects of a broader east coast tour later this year. 
    I'm struggling with not being too negative. 
    I'm REALLY struggling with not being too negative.  I'm not even mad; it was expected... I'm disappointed with how it was handled.

    Everything about this - how the EV tour was prioritized, how there was no updates on rescheduling, and to find out secondhand through the forums / TM that the event was cancelled without any emails or social media update - it all just rubs me the wrong way.  

    Also tired of the people saying, "it was completely out of the band's hands; they did everything they could" - while that might be true with regards to the renovation, they could've been FAR more transparent about the how they communicated ANY of it to the fans.  Let us know that you're trying hard to reschedule, but do it *while* you're rescheduling - don't tell us in conjunction with telling us that the show has been cancelled.
    I'm with Crew.

    This band is still the one I follow most and have the highest interest in, but their organization is also guilty of being occasionally bad with the customer-facing aspect of the relationship.

    3-4 years to deliver the final fan club singles.
    Cancelling Raleigh with an unfulfilled promise to return when the law was changed.
    Infrequency of communication with ticketholders for the past 18-24 months.

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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    Maybe Raleigh gets the fall treatment... 
  • remember there was some crazy good/expensive tickets that Sawyer got back in the day that he was utterly flamed for? it was a festival...PJ20 maybe?
    Sawyer, now there’s a platinum level board ban. 
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,394
    remember there was some crazy good/expensive tickets that Sawyer got back in the day that he was utterly flamed for? it was a festival...PJ20 maybe?
    Sawyer, now there’s a platinum level board ban. 
    Please do tell =) 
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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,929
    remember there was some crazy good/expensive tickets that Sawyer got back in the day that he was utterly flamed for? it was a festival...PJ20 maybe?
    Sawyer, now there’s a platinum level board ban. 
    Please do tell =) 
    He secured 5th or 6th row centre directly from the venue for PJ20 then was clever enough to brag about it here. 10C intervened and had the tickets refunded as they weren’t meant to be sold to the public. He went ballistic here and was banned.
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,394
    100 Pacer said:
    remember there was some crazy good/expensive tickets that Sawyer got back in the day that he was utterly flamed for? it was a festival...PJ20 maybe?
    Sawyer, now there’s a platinum level board ban. 
    Please do tell =) 
    He secured 5th or 6th row centre directly from the venue for PJ20 then was clever enough to brag about it here. 10C intervened and had the tickets refunded as they weren’t meant to be sold to the public. He went ballistic here and was banned.
    Oh wow. I honestly don’t see that happening today (10c intervening). Good story though - will have to find the thread. 
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  • 100 Pacer said:
    remember there was some crazy good/expensive tickets that Sawyer got back in the day that he was utterly flamed for? it was a festival...PJ20 maybe?
    Sawyer, now there’s a platinum level board ban. 
    Please do tell =) 
    He secured 5th or 6th row centre directly from the venue for PJ20 then was clever enough to brag about it here. 10C intervened and had the tickets refunded as they weren’t meant to be sold to the public. He went ballistic here and was banned.
    that's what it was. didn't it also include free booze and food or some perks like that?
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,394
    What a wacky thread. I can’t believe it went on for 17 pages, people reading into it like lawyers. Did he call the Tribune? :lol: 
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