2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    I still think it’s disappointing they are waiting so long to give dates.  The longer the wait the more likely I will have to get a refund for 1 or more of the shows also kept me from traveling to see Ed in this tour and buying Who tickets so far. 

    My shows will all probably be on wednesdays hahahaha
    Hold the tickets as long as you can we are almost at the finish line! 

    Unless we have to wait till July for the fall of course.... UGH
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,848


    This is a map of the available seats for the show starting in 2 hours in Chicago.  Not sure I would call these “great” ticket sales


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  • dmbolpdmbolp Posts: 1,287
    This is a map of the available seats for the show starting in 2 hours in Chicago.  Not sure I would call these “great” ticket sales

    TM/LN will learn from this; they held back way too many tickets, and released them way too late, at too high of a price.  This tour is a Platinum and F2F test for them, for the PJ shows to be rescheduled, and others.
  • SaravaSarava Posts: 2,026


    This is a map of the available seats for the show starting in 2 hours in Chicago.  Not sure I would call these “great” ticket sales


    I'm going tomorrow night to the show. For tonight, my sister texted me at 4:30 that I can have a free pair tonight. A friend of a friend cant find anyone who will take them. I had to pass. Work stuff....sigh
  • MakeUSmileMakeUSmile Posts: 1,128


    This is a map of the available seats for the show starting in 2 hours in Chicago.  Not sure I would call these “great” ticket sales


    I think that the situation would have been much different if they released more tickets to the Tenclub and during initial onsale. These are all seats that TIcketmaster held back for Platinum, but now are trying to get rid of at face. The Chicago map did not look like this until the last few days. 
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,572
    It's pretty crazy how many they held back.  I understand platinum and why it's used.  More money for everyone. TM, promoter, and the band.  Less money for scalpers.  Still, seeing how many never got sold to fans in the first place and how aggressive they were at trying to use it.  meh.  Isn't Chicago one of the 3 largest populations in the US?  Shouldn't be that hard selling a theatre's worth of tickets.
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,394
    I feel like there are a lot less people at the EV shows because of the ticketing and that makes me sad. They could have met demand for 10c tickets and presale code requests. But TM has their cash so they don’t care.
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  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,848
    I feel like there are a lot less people at the EV shows because of the ticketing and that makes me sad. They could have met demand for 10c tickets and presale code requests. But TM has their cash so they don’t care.
    I am only one person, so my opinion doesn't matter at all, but I probably would have tried to jump at 1-2 of these shows if we had gotten the PJ shows announced earlier.  Right now, I just cant justify spending a dime on EV solo until the plans for PJ shows are released.
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  • I could've gone too, but figured, 10c and TM shut me out initially, and I have tickets to 5 PJ shows; and EV new songs not that great, plus warmed over covers,->pass.
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
  • This may have been asked already but if PJ's original tour was the Apollo in NY and then Baltimore and then MSG in 5 days, does this mean with B-more cancelled that the Apollo may get two shows?  Or perhaps Apollo then Beacon then MSG?  Just curious how that may play into things within a short timeframe.
  • uglybabouglybabo Posts: 523
    The orchestra seats are gone, and a lot of the top ones are limited view; by showtime most will probably be gone. 

    With people not traveling as much due to restrictions it’s a bit easier ticket.  I mean if COVID wasn’t a thing I’d probably be at one of these. 
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,162


    This is a map of the available seats for the show starting in 2 hours in Chicago.  Not sure I would call these “great” ticket sales


    I love EV but let’s face it- he has two albums so far. One is a soundtrack and one is a collection of ukulele songs.  The new album comes out in a few days and the singles get little airtime. Plus many people still have COVID concerns. 
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  • DEGBTIDEGBTI Posts: 970
    I honestly dont think at this point covid has anything to do with it. Bands are playing inside and out. Seems scheduling is the issue. Everyone and there brother is putting together tours. Only so many venues. The list I posted the other day had hundreds of artist booked up for 2022. Covid is an excuse at this point. Everything is open. 
  • D-RodD-Rod Posts: 1,845
    This may have been asked already but if PJ's original tour was the Apollo in NY and then Baltimore and then MSG in 5 days, does this mean with B-more cancelled that the Apollo may get two shows?  Or perhaps Apollo then Beacon then MSG?  Just curious how that may play into things within a short timeframe.
    At this point we have no idea what the plan is.  There’s a rumour that MSG is penciled in for the fall. 

         If this is true I’m sure more dates will be added assuming some of the rescheduled shows start in May.  
       Again this is all speculation.  I’m guessing we get an announcement tomorrow, next Tuesday or by April 30th. 
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  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 Posts: 1,428


    This is a map of the available seats for the show starting in 2 hours in Chicago.  Not sure I would call these “great” ticket sales


    I love EV but let’s face it- he has two albums so far. One is a soundtrack and one is a collection of ukulele songs.  The new album comes out in a few days and the singles get little airtime. Plus many people still have COVID concerns. 
    Number 1 reason it suffered: no weekend show or I would be flying and buying just to hear dirty frank as it's apparely their new flagship song
  • Not sure it suffered.  Looked full and was a great time!!! Anyone going to any of the remainder shows it’s fun and worth every penny!
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  • hihobibohihobibo Posts: 1,092


    This is a map of the available seats for the show starting in 2 hours in Chicago.  Not sure I would call these “great” ticket sales


    What I want to know is how there are so many single seats shown. Anytime I try to buy tickets, I get the message that I can't leave a single seat, so I need to choose again.
  • CO278952CO278952 Posts: 1,351
    Is today the day?
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  • mpedonempedone Posts: 1,947
    edited February 2022


    This is a map of the available seats for the show starting in 2 hours in Chicago.  Not sure I would call these “great” ticket sales



    Probably over 90% full. Looks like about 94% for tonight. I wouldn't call that particularly bad. Regardless, I think ticket sales have done well enough that announcing new PJ dates isn't really going to impact them any further (as one of the hypotheses for not announcing the new PJ dates is to not impact EV sales). Maybe you'd see way more people re-listing EV tickets, but I doubt it. If that's really the reason we haven't heard anything, then, well, February 23rd is still "Early 2022".
    Post edited by mpedone on
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  • vercemanverceman Posts: 681
    CO278952 said:
    Is today the day?
    If today were the day we would know already, one of the venues would have leaked it.
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Posts: 4,267
    CO278952 said:
    Is today the day?
    Wont be today or tomorrow. With Ed's album dropping tomorrow, they probably don't want a tour announcement to overshadow the album release. 
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    verceman said:
    CO278952 said:
    Is today the day?
    If today were the day we would know already, one of the venues would have leaked it.
    Venues leak 10C announcements? Has this happened in the past where they came out ahead of 10C? I know we have had rumours of holds and info from other forum members in the past if that is what you are talking about but it seems those days are long gone sadly. 
  • verceman said:
    CO278952 said:
    Is today the day?
    If today were the day we would know already, one of the venues would have leaked it.
    I'm hoping we get some sort of tour news in the newsletter. The Baltimore cancelation will obviously be mentioned. Maybe something as simple as a "Stay Tuned For Big News Next Week" kinda thing. 

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  • mpedonempedone Posts: 1,947
    PJNB said:
    verceman said:
    CO278952 said:
    Is today the day?
    If today were the day we would know already, one of the venues would have leaked it.
    Venues leak 10C announcements? Has this happened in the past where they came out ahead of 10C? I know we have had rumours of holds and info from other forum members in the past if that is what you are talking about but it seems those days are long gone sadly. 

    Except it's not just 10C - Royal Farms was contacting people about refunds well before the cancellation was announced. People keep expecting this to be a 10 Club announcement (and thus, in the monthly newsletter). I would fully expect to hear rumblings from people with connections to the venues first, then social media posts from Pearl Jam, THEN email blast/news page.
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    edited February 2022
    mpedone said:
    PJNB said:
    verceman said:
    CO278952 said:
    Is today the day?
    If today were the day we would know already, one of the venues would have leaked it.
    Venues leak 10C announcements? Has this happened in the past where they came out ahead of 10C? I know we have had rumours of holds and info from other forum members in the past if that is what you are talking about but it seems those days are long gone sadly. 

    Except it's not just 10C - Royal Farms was contacting people about refunds well before the cancellation was announced. People keep expecting this to be a 10 Club announcement (and thus, in the monthly newsletter). I would fully expect to hear rumblings from people with connections to the venues first, then social media posts from Pearl Jam, THEN email blast/news page.
    I am probably wrong on this and times are different but I do not remember a time when dates where announced in NA that did not come straight from the horses mouth first. Valid point with BAL though. 
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,848
    edited February 2022
    PJNB said:
    mpedone said:
    PJNB said:
    verceman said:
    CO278952 said:
    Is today the day?
    If today were the day we would know already, one of the venues would have leaked it.
    Venues leak 10C announcements? Has this happened in the past where they came out ahead of 10C? I know we have had rumours of holds and info from other forum members in the past if that is what you are talking about but it seems those days are long gone sadly. 

    Except it's not just 10C - Royal Farms was contacting people about refunds well before the cancellation was announced. People keep expecting this to be a 10 Club announcement (and thus, in the monthly newsletter). I would fully expect to hear rumblings from people with connections to the venues first, then social media posts from Pearl Jam, THEN email blast/news page.
    I am probably wrong on this and times are different but I do not remember a time when dates where announced in NA that did not come straight from the horses mouth first. Valid point with BAL though. 
    The only one I can remember was in 2016.  Multiple venues posted “seating charts” for Pearl Jam including Philips arena in Atlanta.  And then a Rupp arena employee accidentally posted the Pearl Jam show on the sign outside the arena before the announcement lo

    Those were fun times…
    Post edited by Weston1283 on
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  • mpedonempedone Posts: 1,947
    PJNB said:
    mpedone said:
    PJNB said:
    verceman said:
    CO278952 said:
    Is today the day?
    If today were the day we would know already, one of the venues would have leaked it.
    Venues leak 10C announcements? Has this happened in the past where they came out ahead of 10C? I know we have had rumours of holds and info from other forum members in the past if that is what you are talking about but it seems those days are long gone sadly. 

    Except it's not just 10C - Royal Farms was contacting people about refunds well before the cancellation was announced. People keep expecting this to be a 10 Club announcement (and thus, in the monthly newsletter). I would fully expect to hear rumblings from people with connections to the venues first, then social media posts from Pearl Jam, THEN email blast/news page.
    I am probably wrong on this and times are different but I do not remember a time when dates where announced in NA that did not come straight from the horses mouth first. Valid point with BAL though. 

    Sure, but that's for a brand new tour. How often have we had an entire tour postponed and rescheduled 2+ years later?
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    edited February 2022
    PJNB said:
    mpedone said:
    PJNB said:
    verceman said:
    CO278952 said:
    Is today the day?
    If today were the day we would know already, one of the venues would have leaked it.
    Venues leak 10C announcements? Has this happened in the past where they came out ahead of 10C? I know we have had rumours of holds and info from other forum members in the past if that is what you are talking about but it seems those days are long gone sadly. 

    Except it's not just 10C - Royal Farms was contacting people about refunds well before the cancellation was announced. People keep expecting this to be a 10 Club announcement (and thus, in the monthly newsletter). I would fully expect to hear rumblings from people with connections to the venues first, then social media posts from Pearl Jam, THEN email blast/news page.
    I am probably wrong on this and times are different but I do not remember a time when dates where announced in NA that did not come straight from the horses mouth first. Valid point with BAL though. 
    The only one I can remember was in 2016.  Multiple venues posted “seating charts” for Pearl Jam including Philips arena in Atlanta.  And then a Rupp arena employee accidentally posted the Pearl Jam show on the sign outside the arena before the announcement lo

    Those were fun times…
    I do not remember Atlanta but do remember the Rupp sign now that you mention it. I mean if the sign guy knows whats up before 10C announce surely we will get some leaks soon you would think lol. 
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    mpedone said:
    PJNB said:
    mpedone said:
    PJNB said:
    verceman said:
    CO278952 said:
    Is today the day?
    If today were the day we would know already, one of the venues would have leaked it.
    Venues leak 10C announcements? Has this happened in the past where they came out ahead of 10C? I know we have had rumours of holds and info from other forum members in the past if that is what you are talking about but it seems those days are long gone sadly. 

    Except it's not just 10C - Royal Farms was contacting people about refunds well before the cancellation was announced. People keep expecting this to be a 10 Club announcement (and thus, in the monthly newsletter). I would fully expect to hear rumblings from people with connections to the venues first, then social media posts from Pearl Jam, THEN email blast/news page.
    I am probably wrong on this and times are different but I do not remember a time when dates where announced in NA that did not come straight from the horses mouth first. Valid point with BAL though. 

    Sure, but that's for a brand new tour. How often have we had an entire tour postponed and rescheduled 2+ years later?
    That is why is I said times are different so who knows how it will play out. I think with the rumour MSG is in the fall tells me that all bets are off on these spring dates and what shows are going to land where.
  • NoloadNoload Posts: 1,630
    PJNB said:
    PJNB said:
    mpedone said:
    PJNB said:
    verceman said:
    CO278952 said:
    Is today the day?
    If today were the day we would know already, one of the venues would have leaked it.
    Venues leak 10C announcements? Has this happened in the past where they came out ahead of 10C? I know we have had rumours of holds and info from other forum members in the past if that is what you are talking about but it seems those days are long gone sadly. 

    Except it's not just 10C - Royal Farms was contacting people about refunds well before the cancellation was announced. People keep expecting this to be a 10 Club announcement (and thus, in the monthly newsletter). I would fully expect to hear rumblings from people with connections to the venues first, then social media posts from Pearl Jam, THEN email blast/news page.
    I am probably wrong on this and times are different but I do not remember a time when dates where announced in NA that did not come straight from the horses mouth first. Valid point with BAL though. 
    The only one I can remember was in 2016.  Multiple venues posted “seating charts” for Pearl Jam including Philips arena in Atlanta.  And then a Rupp arena employee accidentally posted the Pearl Jam show on the sign outside the arena before the announcement lo

    Those were fun times…
    I do not remember Atlanta but do remember the Rupp sign now that you mention it. I mean if the sign guy knows whats up before 10C announce surely we will get some leaks soon you would think lol. 
    Yeah there were multiple seating charts that dropped before.  I remember sharing some of the FL seating charts before they were removed.  I think this was just before Bonaroo was added which scraped Atlanta at Phillips/State Farm.  
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