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Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
The pilot union said it didn't happen either.
Second, every major airline has the same mandate except Delta I believe.
Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
The pilot union said it didn't happen either.
Second, every major airline has the same mandate except Delta I believe.
Ok. I read a bunch of conflicting stories. You don’t find any of this strange or inconsistent?
Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
The pilot union said it didn't happen either.
Second, every major airline has the same mandate except Delta I believe.
Ok. I read a bunch of conflicting stories. You don’t find any of this strange or inconsistent?
Did you read a story where the union said it was a walkout? This one talks about how their logistics are different than other airlines
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Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
The pilot union said it didn't happen either.
Second, every major airline has the same mandate except Delta I believe.
Ok. I read a bunch of conflicting stories. You don’t find any of this strange or inconsistent?
Did you read a story where the union said it was a walkout? This one talks about how their logistics are different than other airlines
Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
That doesn't seem to be the case. Initial weather problems in Florida, compounded by air traffic control issues, knock on effects of planes not getting to where they needed to be, and Southwest's different model seem to be the relevant factors.
Casey Murray, the president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, dismissed the idea that pilots had called in sick to protest the company’s vaccine mandate, though the union has asked a court to prevent Southwest from enforcing that requirement. Pilots called in sick at a normal rate this weekend, he said.
Instead, Mr. Murray said, the widespread cancellations were caused by technological issues and problems with how pilots are reassigned and rerouted during disruptions, a process complicated by Southwest’s uniquely large, point-to-point network. In a typical day, about 10 percent of pilots are reassigned from the flights they were scheduled to operate. That figure was 71 percent on Saturday and 85 percent on Sunday, according to Mr. Murray.
Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
That doesn't seem to be the case. Initial weather problems in Florida, compounded by air traffic control issues, knock on effects of planes not getting to where they needed to be, and Southwest's different model seem to be the relevant factors.
Casey Murray, the president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, dismissed the idea that pilots had called in sick to protest the company’s vaccine mandate, though the union has asked a court to prevent Southwest from enforcing that requirement. Pilots called in sick at a normal rate this weekend, he said.
Instead, Mr. Murray said, the widespread cancellations were caused by technological issues and problems with how pilots are reassigned and rerouted during disruptions, a process complicated by Southwest’s uniquely large, point-to-point network. In a typical day, about 10 percent of pilots are reassigned from the flights they were scheduled to operate. That figure was 71 percent on Saturday and 85 percent on Sunday, according to Mr. Murray.
Yea. I have a hard time believing much these days. Certain papers will say nothing to see here, other obvious papers will say it’s definitely an organized walk out. I doubt anyone will want to come out and outright admit it was a protest. Especially with thousands and thousands of pissed off customers.
I just assumed, and still do believe, that of SW blames weather then they aren’t on the hook for hotels. Not buying the weather, it was great weather most places, if a few storms cause thousands of flights to be canceled, then whoever came up with that plan needs to be fired.
Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
That doesn't seem to be the case. Initial weather problems in Florida, compounded by air traffic control issues, knock on effects of planes not getting to where they needed to be, and Southwest's different model seem to be the relevant factors.
Casey Murray, the president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, dismissed the idea that pilots had called in sick to protest the company’s vaccine mandate, though the union has asked a court to prevent Southwest from enforcing that requirement. Pilots called in sick at a normal rate this weekend, he said.
Instead, Mr. Murray said, the widespread cancellations were caused by technological issues and problems with how pilots are reassigned and rerouted during disruptions, a process complicated by Southwest’s uniquely large, point-to-point network. In a typical day, about 10 percent of pilots are reassigned from the flights they were scheduled to operate. That figure was 71 percent on Saturday and 85 percent on Sunday, according to Mr. Murray.
Yea. I have a hard time believing much these days. Certain papers will say nothing to see here, other obvious papers will say it’s definitely an organized walk out. I doubt anyone will want to come out and outright admit it was a protest. Especially with thousands and thousands of pissed off customers.
So you think the news is inventing a quote from the pilots union?
Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
That doesn't seem to be the case. Initial weather problems in Florida, compounded by air traffic control issues, knock on effects of planes not getting to where they needed to be, and Southwest's different model seem to be the relevant factors.
Casey Murray, the president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, dismissed the idea that pilots had called in sick to protest the company’s vaccine mandate, though the union has asked a court to prevent Southwest from enforcing that requirement. Pilots called in sick at a normal rate this weekend, he said.
Instead, Mr. Murray said, the widespread cancellations were caused by technological issues and problems with how pilots are reassigned and rerouted during disruptions, a process complicated by Southwest’s uniquely large, point-to-point network. In a typical day, about 10 percent of pilots are reassigned from the flights they were scheduled to operate. That figure was 71 percent on Saturday and 85 percent on Sunday, according to Mr. Murray.
Yea. I have a hard time believing much these days. Certain papers will say nothing to see here, other obvious papers will say it’s definitely an organized walk out. I doubt anyone will want to come out and outright admit it was a protest. Especially with thousands and thousands of pissed off customers.
So you think the news is inventing a quote from the pilots union?
I think the pilots union doesn’t speak for all of the pilots and employees of southwest.
Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
That doesn't seem to be the case. Initial weather problems in Florida, compounded by air traffic control issues, knock on effects of planes not getting to where they needed to be, and Southwest's different model seem to be the relevant factors.
Casey Murray, the president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, dismissed the idea that pilots had called in sick to protest the company’s vaccine mandate, though the union has asked a court to prevent Southwest from enforcing that requirement. Pilots called in sick at a normal rate this weekend, he said.
Instead, Mr. Murray said, the widespread cancellations were caused by technological issues and problems with how pilots are reassigned and rerouted during disruptions, a process complicated by Southwest’s uniquely large, point-to-point network. In a typical day, about 10 percent of pilots are reassigned from the flights they were scheduled to operate. That figure was 71 percent on Saturday and 85 percent on Sunday, according to Mr. Murray.
Yea. I have a hard time believing much these days. Certain papers will say nothing to see here, other obvious papers will say it’s definitely an organized walk out. I doubt anyone will want to come out and outright admit it was a protest. Especially with thousands and thousands of pissed off customers.
So you think the news is inventing a quote from the pilots union?
I think the pilots union doesn’t speak for all of the pilots and employees of southwest.
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Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
That doesn't seem to be the case. Initial weather problems in Florida, compounded by air traffic control issues, knock on effects of planes not getting to where they needed to be, and Southwest's different model seem to be the relevant factors.
Casey Murray, the president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, dismissed the idea that pilots had called in sick to protest the company’s vaccine mandate, though the union has asked a court to prevent Southwest from enforcing that requirement. Pilots called in sick at a normal rate this weekend, he said.
Instead, Mr. Murray said, the widespread cancellations were caused by technological issues and problems with how pilots are reassigned and rerouted during disruptions, a process complicated by Southwest’s uniquely large, point-to-point network. In a typical day, about 10 percent of pilots are reassigned from the flights they were scheduled to operate. That figure was 71 percent on Saturday and 85 percent on Sunday, according to Mr. Murray.
Yea. I have a hard time believing much these days. Certain papers will say nothing to see here, other obvious papers will say it’s definitely an organized walk out. I doubt anyone will want to come out and outright admit it was a protest. Especially with thousands and thousands of pissed off customers.
So you think the news is inventing a quote from the pilots union?
I think the pilots union doesn’t speak for all of the pilots and employees of southwest.
Did they organize this on Facebook?
Ha. Maybe, if anything did occur. I just noticed that not too many if any actual employees were interviewed for any of the stories I read. Also, if there is nothing to the rumor of a strike how the hell are some outlets labelling it as such? Have we really gotten to a place where speculation and fabrication are widely acceptable outside of facebook? Obviously fox and their ilk have a history of twisting and misrepresenting, but complete fabrications of a non existent vax related pilot strike causing delays, that seems like a pretty bad sign of things to come.
Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
That doesn't seem to be the case. Initial weather problems in Florida, compounded by air traffic control issues, knock on effects of planes not getting to where they needed to be, and Southwest's different model seem to be the relevant factors.
Casey Murray, the president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, dismissed the idea that pilots had called in sick to protest the company’s vaccine mandate, though the union has asked a court to prevent Southwest from enforcing that requirement. Pilots called in sick at a normal rate this weekend, he said.
Instead, Mr. Murray said, the widespread cancellations were caused by technological issues and problems with how pilots are reassigned and rerouted during disruptions, a process complicated by Southwest’s uniquely large, point-to-point network. In a typical day, about 10 percent of pilots are reassigned from the flights they were scheduled to operate. That figure was 71 percent on Saturday and 85 percent on Sunday, according to Mr. Murray.
Yea. I have a hard time believing much these days. Certain papers will say nothing to see here, other obvious papers will say it’s definitely an organized walk out. I doubt anyone will want to come out and outright admit it was a protest. Especially with thousands and thousands of pissed off customers.
So you think the news is inventing a quote from the pilots union?
I think the pilots union doesn’t speak for all of the pilots and employees of southwest.
Did they organize this on Facebook?
Ha. Maybe, if anything did occur. I just noticed that not too many if any actual employees were interviewed for any of the stories I read. Also, if there is nothing to the rumor of a strike how the hell are some outlets labelling it as such? Have we really gotten to a place where speculation and fabrication are widely acceptable outside of facebook? Obviously fox and their ilk have a history of twisting and misrepresenting, but complete fabrications of a non existent vax related pilot strike causing delays, that seems like a pretty bad sign of things to come.
Yes, we have indeed gotten to a place where speculation and fabrication are widely accepted. These incidents are not accidents, they are created purposefully to advance goals. This isn't even the first widespread social media claim that a business or an airline is on the verge of massive staff loss due to vaccine mandates which appear to have been plucked from thin air.
Ted Cruz and his ilk had a big part to play in this one.
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Parents in BC are now able to preregister their 5-11 year old children for vaccination. The Pfizer submission has gone into Health Canada and approval may come as early as some time in November. There are apparently about 340,000 children in that age group in the province.
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Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
That doesn't seem to be the case. Initial weather problems in Florida, compounded by air traffic control issues, knock on effects of planes not getting to where they needed to be, and Southwest's different model seem to be the relevant factors.
Casey Murray, the president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, dismissed the idea that pilots had called in sick to protest the company’s vaccine mandate, though the union has asked a court to prevent Southwest from enforcing that requirement. Pilots called in sick at a normal rate this weekend, he said.
Instead, Mr. Murray said, the widespread cancellations were caused by technological issues and problems with how pilots are reassigned and rerouted during disruptions, a process complicated by Southwest’s uniquely large, point-to-point network. In a typical day, about 10 percent of pilots are reassigned from the flights they were scheduled to operate. That figure was 71 percent on Saturday and 85 percent on Sunday, according to Mr. Murray.
Yea. I have a hard time believing much these days. Certain papers will say nothing to see here, other obvious papers will say it’s definitely an organized walk out. I doubt anyone will want to come out and outright admit it was a protest. Especially with thousands and thousands of pissed off customers.
So you think the news is inventing a quote from the pilots union?
I think the pilots union doesn’t speak for all of the pilots and employees of southwest.
Did they organize this on Facebook?
Ha. Maybe, if anything did occur. I just noticed that not too many if any actual employees were interviewed for any of the stories I read. Also, if there is nothing to the rumor of a strike how the hell are some outlets labelling it as such? Have we really gotten to a place where speculation and fabrication are widely acceptable outside of facebook? Obviously fox and their ilk have a history of twisting and misrepresenting, but complete fabrications of a non existent vax related pilot strike causing delays, that seems like a pretty bad sign of things to come.
Yes, we have indeed gotten to a place where speculation and fabrication are widely accepted. These incidents are not accidents, they are created purposefully to advance goals. This isn't even the first widespread social media claim that a business or an airline is on the verge of massive staff loss due to vaccine mandates which appear to have been plucked from thin air.
Ted Cruz and his ilk had a big part to play in this one.
We've arrived & been at this place for some time... people are only taking notice of it now?
Anyone following the southwest airline situation? Seems weird to blame all those cancellations on weather when no other airline came close to the amount of cancellations. It’s obvious that it was an organized protest by their staff against the mandate. It’s just so lame that they won’t admit it.
That doesn't seem to be the case. Initial weather problems in Florida, compounded by air traffic control issues, knock on effects of planes not getting to where they needed to be, and Southwest's different model seem to be the relevant factors.
Casey Murray, the president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, dismissed the idea that pilots had called in sick to protest the company’s vaccine mandate, though the union has asked a court to prevent Southwest from enforcing that requirement. Pilots called in sick at a normal rate this weekend, he said.
Instead, Mr. Murray said, the widespread cancellations were caused by technological issues and problems with how pilots are reassigned and rerouted during disruptions, a process complicated by Southwest’s uniquely large, point-to-point network. In a typical day, about 10 percent of pilots are reassigned from the flights they were scheduled to operate. That figure was 71 percent on Saturday and 85 percent on Sunday, according to Mr. Murray.
Yea. I have a hard time believing much these days. Certain papers will say nothing to see here, other obvious papers will say it’s definitely an organized walk out. I doubt anyone will want to come out and outright admit it was a protest. Especially with thousands and thousands of pissed off customers.
So you think the news is inventing a quote from the pilots union?
I think the pilots union doesn’t speak for all of the pilots and employees of southwest.
Did they organize this on Facebook?
Ha. Maybe, if anything did occur. I just noticed that not too many if any actual employees were interviewed for any of the stories I read. Also, if there is nothing to the rumor of a strike how the hell are some outlets labelling it as such? Have we really gotten to a place where speculation and fabrication are widely acceptable outside of facebook? Obviously fox and their ilk have a history of twisting and misrepresenting, but complete fabrications of a non existent vax related pilot strike causing delays, that seems like a pretty bad sign of things to come.
Yes, we have indeed gotten to a place where speculation and fabrication are widely accepted. These incidents are not accidents, they are created purposefully to advance goals. This isn't even the first widespread social media claim that a business or an airline is on the verge of massive staff loss due to vaccine mandates which appear to have been plucked from thin air.
Ted Cruz and his ilk had a big part to play in this one.
We've arrived & been at this place for some time... people are only taking notice of it now?
Outside of Facebook and the usual right wing twisting I have seen very few outright fabrications in any but the most low class tabloid outlets. For this story there were several local news reports conjecturing that there was in fact a strike. I expect the outright fabrications from Newsmax, OANN etc, but at least fox and local conservative affiliates usually twist the truth and there is some grain of reality that has been distorted to make the case. Regarding the strike, it seems that many outlets out side of the "patriot" news networks are getting away with complete fabrication.
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this great news. hope it holds. been missing our twice a year conference weekends on erie up there...
you've been allowed to come up here and cross back as a citizen for some time, no?
unsure but our conference is held end of feb and end of july. so for what we do, timing wasnt good. still shut in July and it takes about 2 months for us to organize. so first of jan and first of june we had to know whats what.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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Second, every major airline has the same mandate except Delta I believe.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1281279
What's SWA going to do? They are a govt contractor and so have to require the vaccine.
well one behalf of at least some of us, sorry!!!!
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That doesn't seem to be the case. Initial weather problems in Florida, compounded by air traffic control issues, knock on effects of planes not getting to where they needed to be, and Southwest's different model seem to be the relevant factors.
Casey Murray, the president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, dismissed the idea that pilots had called in sick to protest the company’s vaccine mandate, though the union has asked a court to prevent Southwest from enforcing that requirement. Pilots called in sick at a normal rate this weekend, he said.
Instead, Mr. Murray said, the widespread cancellations were caused by technological issues and problems with how pilots are reassigned and rerouted during disruptions, a process complicated by Southwest’s uniquely large, point-to-point network. In a typical day, about 10 percent of pilots are reassigned from the flights they were scheduled to operate. That figure was 71 percent on Saturday and 85 percent on Sunday, according to Mr. Murray.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/business/southwest-airlines-cancellations.html?searchResultPosition=2
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/southwest-american-airlines-vaccine-mandates_n_61663db4e4b0f3be08dc0a41
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this great news. hope it holds. been missing our twice a year conference weekends on erie up there...
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
Yes, we have indeed gotten to a place where speculation and fabrication are widely accepted. These incidents are not accidents, they are created purposefully to advance goals. This isn't even the first widespread social media claim that a business or an airline is on the verge of massive staff loss due to vaccine mandates which appear to have been plucked from thin air.
Ted Cruz and his ilk had a big part to play in this one.
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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unsure but our conference is held end of feb and end of july. so for what we do, timing wasnt good. still shut in July and it takes about 2 months for us to organize. so first of jan and first of june we had to know whats what.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14