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  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    More third booster/inequitable vaccine roll-out effects to come

    "Libya’s Ministry of Higher Education and Scientific Research has again suspended classes at universities as the country battles a third wave of COVID-19 infections....

    And again, critics say the government has the wrong approach and that the move will further disrupt education.

    Instead of suspending classes, opponents of the decision are calling for increased vaccination of the university community and more remote education along with social distancing and other health measures to lessen the ongoing disruption of higher-education institutions.

    According to the Reuters COVID-19 tracker, Libya’s daily infection rate has been as high as 2,593 at the time of going to press.

    A total of 224,920 infections and 3,299 coronavirus-related deaths have been reported in the country since the pandemic began.

    Only about 2.9% of Libya’s population of 7 million has been fully vaccinated.... "

    full article link: 
    https://www.universityworldnews.com/post.php?story=20210719155549212
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    It’s widely reported that the FDA may fully approve the Pfizer BionTech vaccine on Monday or possibly slightly later. Would be lovely if all of those people who said they wouldn’t accept an “experimental”, unapproved vaccine get promptly vaccinated thereafter. 
    Goal posts must be moved..
  • Bentleyspop
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    He had been battling for a while.  God, the fools.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    mickeyrat said:
    things that make you go hmmmmm?

    Which state is an abortion illegal for minors? I wasn’t aware of any. Parental consent, yes. But that’s different than saying state mandated.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256

    https://www.studyfinds.org/face-masks-wont-stop-covid-indoors/

    So should we required N95 masks?  I made my own mask out of an old t-shirt before masks were even required in the pandemic so I'm not anti-mask.  Even after this study I'll wear one if required if it makes others feel better. But if this study is right, then it is troubling and adds fuel to the fire for those who don't trust the CDC or government. 

    I've already received texts from people basically overjoyed at this study and how they were right all along. 

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    https://www.studyfinds.org/face-masks-wont-stop-covid-indoors/

    So should we required N95 masks?  I made my own mask out of an old t-shirt before masks were even required in the pandemic so I'm not anti-mask.  Even after this study I'll wear one if required if it makes others feel better. But if this study is right, then it is troubling and adds fuel to the fire for those who don't trust the CDC or government. 

    I've already received texts from people basically overjoyed at this study and how they were right all along. 

    Well, it’s a no-brainer that poorly fitting masks and many cloth masks don’t do all that much. This isn’t news. People should be wearing triple layer cloth masks that fit well if they aren’t wearing a medical mask. However, lots of people don’t wear masks that fit well because they can be less comfortable than masks that fit poorly. 

    The issue with these types of studies that try to look at air flow in certain circumstances is that they haven’t been that accurate at reflecting what epidemiological and research data tells us about the differences in actual transmission between masked vs unmasked people. This isn’t  the first of these studies that claims to show that “masks don’t work”. 

    If I get a chance I’ll look at the study design and might have more comments then. 
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  • dankind
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  • Renfield
    Renfield NYC NY Posts: 1,054
    dankind said:
    Does not pertain to me, but read it anyway. Another terribly sad piece of this effed up puzzle. I hope you and your wife are doing ok. 

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,197
    dankind said:
    From the Atlantic at the bottom of the article you posted. ‘Murica, land of the selfish.

     I wonder how many parents would let their kids play pee wee football without a helmet? I mean helmets don’t prevent concussions so why wear one? My kid, my choice, right?

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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    I apologize in advance, since this isn't in good taste - but just like Time Magazine have given POTY awards to a group of people, can the deceased anti-vaxxers of 2020 receive the Darwin Award?
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  • mickeyrat
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    benjs said:
    I apologize in advance, since this isn't in good taste - but just like Time Magazine have given POTY awards to a group of people, can the deceased anti-vaxxers of 2020 receive the Darwin Award?

    one thing about covid, its doing a faster number on right wing radio than cancer did.....
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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    mickeyrat said:
    benjs said:
    I apologize in advance, since this isn't in good taste - but just like Time Magazine have given POTY awards to a group of people, can the deceased anti-vaxxers of 2020 receive the Darwin Award?

    one thing about covid, its doing a faster number on right wing radio than cancer did.....
    Zing!
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    mickeyrat said:
    benjs said:
    I apologize in advance, since this isn't in good taste - but just like Time Magazine have given POTY awards to a group of people, can the deceased anti-vaxxers of 2020 receive the Darwin Award?

    one thing about covid, its doing a faster number on right wing radio than cancer did.....
    Well played, sir!
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  • mickeyrat
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    Fuckstick booed at egostroke rally in alabama...

    Trump Booed At Rally After Quipping That COVID-19 Vaccinations Are ‘Good’


    CULLMAN, USA - AUGUST 21: Donald J. Trump delivers remarks at a major rally hosted by the Alaba... MORE
    August 22, 2021 11:04 a.m.

    Former President Trump appeared to get booed by some of his supporters at a “Save America” rally in Alabama on Saturday night as soon as he encouraged the crowd to get vaccinated against COVID-19.

    “I believe totally in your freedoms, I do, you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do,” Trump said. “But I recommend: take the vaccines.”

    After saying that COVID-19 vaccines are “good,” Trump was met with boos from the crowd.

    Trump then quipped to the crowd that they have “freedoms,” but that he “happened to take the vaccine.”

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    When the audible booing tamped down, Trump joked that the crowd would be the “first to know,” before reiterating against the vaccines are “working.”

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  • mace1229
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    edited August 2021
    A little random, but one thing I’m shocked to see not change is how restaurants handle lids for cups. I’ve thought this for years, and thought certainly it would change. Many don’t let you touch the cups, have an advance system to dispense 1 straw at a time, then direct you to a lid station where you have to man-handle 3-4 lids just to get 1 out. Then you’re stuck throwing several away and wasting the equivalent of 5 straws (after they just went out of their way to give you a paper one) or put them back for the next person.
    I still see the same system in place nearly everywhere I go.
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    mickeyrat said:
    benjs said:
    And another...


    I apologize in advance, since this isn't in good taste - but just like Time Magazine have given POTY awards to a group of people, can the deceased anti-vaxxers of 2020 receive the Darwin Award?

    one thing about covid, its doing a faster number on right wing radio than cancer did.....
    It seems like small-time right-wing radio DJs are practicing what they preach, whereas GQP elected officials are being vaccinated.
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