UK tribute band getting a cease and desist

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  • beano.79
    beano.79 Posts: 785
    The lads from pearl jamm tribute must be pretty disappointed that their heroes aren't quite what they thought. I have seen these guys a couple of times and they do a decent job and hold pearl jam's music and spirit in nothing but the highest regard. They must feel quite sad about this. The tribute band have also confirmed that the members of pearl jam have approved this legal action.

    You have Metallica who get a hard time for being a money machine, yet they stepped in to prevent their legal team taking action against a Metallica tribute act.
  • Peasant Tents
    Peasant Tents UK Posts: 863
    beano.79 said:
    The lads from pearl jamm tribute must be pretty disappointed that their heroes aren't quite what they thought. I have seen these guys a couple of times and they do a decent job and hold pearl jam's music and spirit in nothing but the highest regard. They must feel quite sad about this. The tribute band have also confirmed that the members of pearl jam have approved this legal action.

    You have Metallica who get a hard time for being a money machine, yet they stepped in to prevent their legal team taking action against a Metallica tribute act.
    What are the Metallica tribute act called? Are they called Metallicaa? 

    I think this is all about money on both sides. And fair enough for the actual band.  Can't Pearl Jamm just come up with a more imaginative name for their "tribute" act?
  • beano.79
    beano.79 Posts: 785
    edited January 2021
    It just doesn't seem to sit right with what we all thought pearl jam were about. were talking about a band consisting of fans selling a few hundred tickets here in the UK that has no bearing on the wealth of pearl jam. For them to say it is damaging their brand... not a chance. I do understand there probably is a legal matter here, but for a band like pearl jam to seek this out and be this concerned about a small band of fans paying tribute, for me is very disappointing.
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  • Peasant Tents
    Peasant Tents UK Posts: 863
    I get your point @beano.79  it does appear at first glance harsh but......
    I had a friend - not a big PJ fan - who emailed me a couple of years ago in excitement that he had bought a couple of tickets for Pearl Jam in Birmingham for their upcoming tour.  The Academy I think it was. 
    From Bandsintown the email came.  He had a fight on his hands for getting a refund which is fair enough. he should have looked more carefully.    Or should he?  Should the band name not really be almost IDENTICAL???
    No malice intended to the guys in the cover band but really, it seems a deliberate move to name themselves as closely to the actual name as they can. All the merch is identical too.
    Just not in the spirit of the original band in my opinion either..
  • Peasant Tents
    Peasant Tents UK Posts: 863

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    It won't reduce attendance at their gigs surely?
  • beano.79
    beano.79 Posts: 785

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    It won't reduce attendance at their gigs surely?
    likewise, I take your point. I may be being unrealistic but Im just surprised that pearl jam find it such a big deal. but also I guess law is law. Just feels wrong to me if that makes sense
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    Should not have used Pearl Jamm name to begin with.  Makes sense to want to use that name though, obviously.
  • Peasant Tents
    Peasant Tents UK Posts: 863
    edited January 2021
    beano.79 said:

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    It won't reduce attendance at their gigs surely?
    likewise, I take your point. I may be being unrealistic but Im just surprised that pearl jam find it such a big deal. but also I guess law is law. Just feels wrong to me if that makes sense
    Fair play! I get what you mean, I unsubscribed from bandsintown - this email is from 2018....  I think this is the bigger problem. Not for the band, for potential mistaken fans buying tickets and merch for something that isn't PJ.  Maybe the band are concerned about this for people beyond Pearl Jamm ?  Think this might have been Pearl Jam UK?

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  • Zod
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    I don't have a problem in itself that Pearl Jam ask a band to change it's name if they are called "Pearl Jamm" and use the same stickman illustration as Pearl Jam themselves. 

    I just want to know, what Pearl Jam's camp's approach was, if it was:

     "hey guys, it's tricky for us legally to let you use a name as similar to the band, so we would like you change it to something else. And stop selling the merch, let's figure out a deal  - we can pay for the T-shirts etc you have left and you just get rid of them" Cool of you enjoying the bands music enough to have a tribute band!"

    or if it was

    "letter sent from an attorney out of the blue - STOP NOW OR ELSE..."

    Also, this band had been going for a while right? So why now? Kelly Curtis or whoever in charge hasn't stopped any tribute bands before to my knowledge?
    it's like you think Jeff is contacting the band. it's their legal team. they aren't being "mean". it's a standard way of communicating. 

    I find this sad, that the common way to communicate is with lawyers... lol.   I agree it is the standard, but how did we go from talking to a person (or persons) to try and resolve a conflict, to straight to lawyers.. it's sad :(

    I'm sure if one of the guys, or even PJ's management gave them a call they'd stop using the name.  If they didn't, then you bust out the lawyer.

    I do agree the name isn't really different enough.   Especially because when said verbally it's the same.

    How would metallica take it if a tribute named themselves Metalllica or something like that.. lol.

    PJ doesn't seem to have issue with tribute bands, just the one that has a name that's way to close to the real thing.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,629
    edited January 2021
    I think some are misunderstanding. Pearl Jam doesn't have problems with tribute bands. It's more a naming issue. And I doubt it was the actual members who said to go after them.


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  • PeterED
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    Why not just call themselves literally anything else PJ related without the actual name? 
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  • GS163319
    GS163319 Posts: 132
    Jesus fucking christ. Who gives a flying fuck? Being a fan of this band is made much harder/ embarrassing by the school marms like this spiritual chaos motherfucker who make a deal out everything. 
  • GS163319 said:
    Jesus fucking christ. Who gives a flying fuck? Being a fan of this band is made much harder/ embarrassing by the school marms like this spiritual chaos motherfucker who make a deal out everything. 
    Come on you can do better than name call .


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    GS163319 said:
    Jesus fucking christ. Who gives a flying fuck? Being a fan of this band is made much harder/ embarrassing by the school marms like this spiritual chaos motherfucker who make a deal out everything. 
    This is uncalled for and just plain rude. But I guess you don’t give a flying fuck
  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    Pearl Ham could be the new name. Thats what my fat fingers seem to type every time I am in the mood to buy something on ebay I dont reallly need.
  • FR181798 said:
    Pearl Ham could be the new name. Thats what my fat fingers seem to type every time I am in the mood to buy something on ebay I dont reallly need.
    Agreed


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -