When I listened to it digitally I was disappointed. I liked some songs, felt some were quite shitty but all in all thought the start of the album was strong and it faded about halfway through.
I got my 10c vinyl in the mail today, I listened with headphones on while working from home (yeah social distancing, happy to have a job) and I have to say my opinion is way different! I really dig this album.
I am a vinyl nerd, and I do feel the sound quality is better as well as the listening experience, but I feel like it's a different album listening this way.
So long story short, I will forever be a VS junkie, but I put this album well above LB and Backspacer, probably Avacado as well, maybe Binaural as I listen more.
Fuck it I will rank them while I'm at it:
Vs No Code Riot Act Vitalogy Ten Yield Binaural Gigaton Avacado LB Backspacer
I was very excited to to crank this new album on my way home from work yesterday. It started out great with Who Ever Said and I was loving it up thorough Quick Escape then it quickly went downhill. I kept waiting for the next song to bring it back but that didn’t happen. Ive listened to it now multiple times trying to like it but I just don’t. I personally put this as their worse album and it sounds more of an Ed solo album than a full band effort in my opinion.
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1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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To the OP... why are you “sorry”? The album disappointed you. Don’t buy it. Don’t go to shows. Give away all your PJ merch. Buy a billboard in your hometown to call them out. Become a Post Malone fan. Blame Carol Baskin.
This thread has hung around a lot longer than I thought it would. I’m honestly glad that so many people are enjoying this album. Im still listening to it daily and other than a couple songs that are growing on me a bit my initial opinion hasn’t changed much. I’m still a fan, still wear the many t-shirts I own, still have the posters on my living room wall, and hope to see them live again here very soon. Maybe hearing some of these songs live will change my opinion of them.
This thread has hung around a lot longer than I thought it would. I’m honestly glad that so many people are enjoying this album. Im still listening to it daily and other than a couple songs that are growing on me a bit my initial opinion hasn’t changed much. I’m still a fan, still wear the many t-shirts I own, still have the posters on my living room wall, and hope to see them live again here very soon. Maybe hearing some of these songs live will change my opinion of them.
I can’t wait! We just have the stickerfigures they rock
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I'm not taken by it much at all, but so what? I still love the band for who they are, what they've done, how they think, and how great they are live. And the fans are pretty cool. Well, most of you. Ah, what the hell, all of you. You like Pearl Jam? You're cool!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
I can see people thinking the final four songs have that “vibe” (even though Stone wrote Buckle Up and Mike wrote the music to Retrograde). But how anyone can get that vibe from the first four songs is beyond me.
The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
How many songs did Ed write out of the 12?
He wrote the music to 7 songs with two of those being a team effort and the lyrics to 9. The only songs to my ears that can be on a solo EV album are Comes Then Goes and River Cross and maybe the end of Retrograde.
The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
How many songs did Ed write out of the 12?
He wrote the music to 7 songs with two of those being a team effort and the lyrics to 9. The only songs to my ears that can be on a solo EV album are Comes Then Goes and River Cross and maybe the end of Retrograde.
Thanks for the info. Mike and Stone need to up their writing game!!!
Definitely some great moments on the album but I can also find parts of each song I do not like. Either the music gets boring. Or too many ohhhs, and la la la's. A few moments where I feel like I'm listening to some top 40 rock pop band like the killers.
I'm sure some songs will grow on my like amongst the waves and lightening bolt (the song) did but overall don't love it. I think they could have made a better album if they just threw something together in 2 weeks. I mean the guys can play and Ed can still sing but tried too hard to make a unique album. Props to them for that but doesn't do it for me.
Maybe it's money. Or age. Seems to happen with most bands. Once $$$ rolls in it's hard to keep that rawness and edge which is why fans loved you to begin with.
3 albums in a row that I've been less than impress with but I'll still go to the odd show. They always sound better live. Even the songs that do nothing for me on album.
Definitely some great moments on the album but I can also find parts of each song I do not like. Either the music gets boring. Or too many ohhhs, and la la la's. A few moments where I feel like I'm listening to some top 40 rock pop band like the killers.
I'm sure some songs will grow on my like amongst the waves and lightening bolt (the song) did but overall don't love it. I think they could have made a better album if they just threw something together in 2 weeks. I mean the guys can play and Ed can still sing but tried too hard to make a unique album. Props to them for that but doesn't do it for me.
Maybe it's money. Or age. Seems to happen with most bands. Once $$$ rolls in it's hard to keep that rawness and edge which is why fans loved you to begin with.
3 albums in a row that I've been less than impress with but I'll still go to the odd show. They always sound better live. Even the songs that do nothing for me on album.
I’m liking Gigaton more and more as I listen, after not liking the last two albums all that much. Definitely understand what you mean about sounding like “a top 40 rock band” which to me started with Backspacer, but there’s def a lot less of that here than on that last two albums and I think a big part of that is the absence of BoB.
The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
How many songs did Ed write out of the 12?
He wrote the music to 7 songs with two of those being a team effort and the lyrics to 9. The only songs to my ears that can be on a solo EV album are Comes Then Goes and River Cross and maybe the end of Retrograde.
Thanks for the info. Mike and Stone need to up their writing game!!!
Yeah Stone must have been on a European Vacation or something when they were making the album and then the band called him and asked him for some material and he said: " Well I do have have this little diddy called Buckle Up?".
I respect the OP for posting his opinion and think calling him a troll is dumb. After taking a couple days away I am loving this record way more. Songs like never destination and buckle up are suddenly great. Loving it. We’ll give river cross some more time. It’s a cool song but stretched out a bit for me still.
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When I listened to it digitally I was disappointed. I liked some songs, felt some were quite shitty but all in all thought the start of the album was strong and it faded about halfway through.
I got my 10c vinyl in the mail today, I listened with headphones on while working from home (yeah social distancing, happy to have a job) and I have to say my opinion is way different! I really dig this album.
I am a vinyl nerd, and I do feel the sound quality is better as well as the listening experience, but I feel like it's a different album listening this way.
So long story short, I will forever be a VS junkie, but I put this album well above LB and Backspacer, probably Avacado as well, maybe Binaural as I listen more.
Fuck it I will rank them while I'm at it:
Vs
No Code
Riot Act
Vitalogy
Ten
Yield
Binaural
Gigaton
Avacado
LB
Backspacer
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
1- Saw Title of thread
2-Knew better than to read through all 12 pages
3_Good for you for having your opinion
4-My opinion is different
5-PJ has a diverse fan base, and that is awesome!
i fucking love it and the more I listen with the volume full. It’s gonna feel better n better.
Columbus-2003
Cincinnati-2006
Columbus-2010
Wrigley-2013
Cincinnati-2014
Lexington-2016
Wrigley 1 & 2-2018
still listening to it daily and other than a couple songs that are growing on me a bit my initial opinion hasn’t changed much. I’m still a fan, still wear the many t-shirts I own, still have the posters on my living room wall, and hope to see them live again here very soon. Maybe hearing some of these songs live will
change my opinion of them.
Columbus-2003
Cincinnati-2006
Columbus-2010
Wrigley-2013
Cincinnati-2014
Lexington-2016
Wrigley 1 & 2-2018
they rock
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He wrote the music to 7 songs with two of those being a team effort and the lyrics to 9. The only songs to my ears that can be on a solo EV album are Comes Then Goes and River Cross and maybe the end of Retrograde.
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I'm sure some songs will grow on my like amongst the waves and lightening bolt (the song) did but overall don't love it. I think they could have made a better album if they just threw something together in 2 weeks. I mean the guys can play and Ed can still sing but tried too hard to make a unique album. Props to them for that but doesn't do it for me.
Maybe it's money. Or age. Seems to happen with most bands. Once $$$ rolls in it's hard to keep that rawness and edge which is why fans loved you to begin with.
3 albums in a row that I've been less than impress with but I'll still go to the odd show. They always sound better live. Even the songs that do nothing for me on album.
07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa
5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin
Even that though. Three songs off the whole album, one of which Ed didn't write. It's weird.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."