I’m Sorry But Gigaton Is A Major Dissapointment

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  • scurtisscurtis Posts: 2,460
    I will say this....

    When I listened to it digitally I was disappointed.  I liked some songs, felt some were quite shitty but all in all thought the start of the album was strong and it faded about halfway through.

    I got my 10c vinyl in the mail today, I listened with headphones on while working from home (yeah social distancing, happy to have a job) and I have to say my opinion is way different!  I really dig this album.

    I am a vinyl nerd, and I do feel the sound quality is better as well as the listening experience, but I feel like it's a different album listening this way.

    So long story short, I will forever be a VS junkie, but I put this album well above LB and Backspacer, probably Avacado as well, maybe Binaural as I listen more.

    Fuck it I will rank them while I'm at it:

    Vs
    No Code
    Riot Act
    Vitalogy
    Ten
    Yield
    Binaural
    Gigaton
    Avacado
    LB
    Backspacer
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,336
    KC138045 said:
    I was very excited to to crank this new album on my way home from work yesterday. It started out great with Who Ever Said and I was loving it up thorough Quick Escape then it quickly went downhill. I kept waiting for the next song to bring it back but that didn’t happen.  Ive listened to it now multiple times trying to like it but I just don’t. I personally put this as their worse album and it sounds more of an Ed solo album than a full band effort in my opinion. 
    you spelled disappointment wrong
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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,420
    People liking The Fixer though, they are an exception. Sacrifice them to thin the herd.
    The Fixer : SBWF :: Tomatoes : Ketchup
    I can't decipher that.
    The Fixer : SBWF :: Julmust : Coca-Cola
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,737
    on2legs said:
    People liking The Fixer though, they are an exception. Sacrifice them to thin the herd.
    The Fixer : SBWF :: Tomatoes : Ketchup
    I can't decipher that.
    The Fixer : SBWF :: Julmust : Coca-Cola
    SBWF : pecorino Romano: sweet baby ray’s bbq sauce : the fixer
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,882
    on2legs said:
    People liking The Fixer though, they are an exception. Sacrifice them to thin the herd.
    The Fixer : SBWF :: Tomatoes : Ketchup
    I can't decipher that.
    The Fixer : SBWF :: Julmust : Coca-Cola
    Hmm. Should be the other way around... I think
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  • mr bunglemr bungle Posts: 1,369

    1- Saw Title of thread

    2-Knew better than to read through all 12 pages

    3_Good for you for having your opinion

    4-My opinion is different

    5-PJ has a diverse fan base, and that is awesome!

  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,420
    on2legs said:
    People liking The Fixer though, they are an exception. Sacrifice them to thin the herd.
    The Fixer : SBWF :: Tomatoes : Ketchup
    I can't decipher that.
    The Fixer : SBWF :: Julmust : Coca-Cola
    Hmm. Should be the other way around... I think
    I was just trying to work in a Julmust reference. Either that or go with Glogg. 
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  • CridderCridder Posts: 165
    I hate everyone 
  • densandensan Posts: 563
    I do too.
    Be different & make a difference. Decency & kindness @ a grassroots level works.
  • otterotter Posts: 769
    I think it’s perfect, the sound/mix is incredible. The songs are great. The vinyl packaging is cool as shit.  
    5 guys rockin n rollin, it’s fuckin beautiful. First time through it’s tough to hear the songs on there own, but it’s our Pearl Jam jamming 

    i fucking love it and the more I listen with the volume full. It’s gonna feel better n better. 

    It will be a classic record before we know it. Time keeps on tickin
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,345
    mr bungle said:

    1- Saw Title of thread

    2-Knew better than to read through all 12 pages

    3_Good for you for having your opinion

    4-My opinion is different

    5-PJ has a diverse fan base, and that is awesome!


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  • KC138045KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,716
    To the OP... why are you “sorry”?
    The album disappointed you. Don’t buy it. Don’t go to shows. Give away all your PJ merch. Buy a billboard in your hometown to call them out. Become a Post Malone fan. Blame Carol Baskin. 
    That bitch Carol Baskin!!!
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  • KC138045KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,716
    This thread has hung around a lot longer than I thought it would. I’m honestly glad that so many people are enjoying this album. Im
    still listening to it daily and other than a couple songs that are growing on me a bit my initial opinion hasn’t changed much. I’m still a fan, still wear the many t-shirts I own, still have the posters on my living room wall, and hope to see them live again here very soon. Maybe hearing some of these songs live will
    change my opinion of them.  
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  • otterotter Posts: 769
    KC138045 said:
    This thread has hung around a lot longer than I thought it would. I’m honestly glad that so many people are enjoying this album. Im
    still listening to it daily and other than a couple songs that are growing on me a bit my initial opinion hasn’t changed much. I’m still a fan, still wear the many t-shirts I own, still have the posters on my living room wall, and hope to see them live again here very soon. Maybe hearing some of these songs live will
    change my opinion of them.  

    I can’t wait! We just have the stickerfigures 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,764
    I'm not taken by it much at all, but so what?  I still love the band for who they are, what they've done, how they think, and how great they are live.  And the fans are pretty cool.  Well, most of you.  Ah, what the hell, all of you.  You like Pearl Jam?  You're cool!  :smile: 
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,339
    The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    JimmyV said:
    The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
    I can see people thinking the final four songs have that “vibe” (even though Stone wrote Buckle Up and Mike wrote the music to Retrograde). But how anyone can get that vibe from the first four songs is beyond me. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,737
    JimmyV said:
    The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
    How many songs did Ed write out of the 12?

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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,595
    mcgruff10 said:
    JimmyV said:
    The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
    How many songs did Ed write out of the 12?



    He wrote the music to 7 songs with two of those being a team effort and the lyrics to 9. The only songs to my ears that can be on a solo EV album are Comes Then Goes and River Cross and maybe the end of Retrograde. 
  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,319
    JimmyV said:
    The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
    I don’t get this at all either. Comes then Goes is the only one that has an Ed solo feel to me. The rest seems very collaborative 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,737
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    JimmyV said:
    The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
    How many songs did Ed write out of the 12?



    He wrote the music to 7 songs with two of those being a team effort and the lyrics to 9. The only songs to my ears that can be on a solo EV album are Comes Then Goes and River Cross and maybe the end of Retrograde. 
    Thanks for the info.  Mike and Stone need to up their writing game!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    JimmyV said:
    The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
    I don’t get this at all either. Comes then Goes is the only one that has an Ed solo feel to me. The rest seems very collaborative 
    Agreed.
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  • Red LukinRed Lukin Canada Posts: 2,994
    Definitely some great moments on the album but I can also find parts of each song I do not like. Either the music gets boring. Or too many ohhhs, and la la la's.  A few moments where I feel like I'm listening to some top 40 rock pop band like the killers.

    I'm sure some songs will grow on my like amongst the waves and lightening bolt (the song) did but overall don't love it.  I think they could have made a better album if they just threw something together in 2 weeks.  I mean the guys can play and Ed can still sing but tried too hard to make a unique album.  Props to them for that but doesn't do it for me.

    Maybe it's money. Or age.  Seems to happen with most bands. Once $$$ rolls in it's hard to keep that rawness and edge which is why fans loved you to begin with. 

    3 albums in a row that I've been less than impress with but I'll still go to the odd show.  They always sound better live. Even the songs that do nothing for me on album.
  • JimmyV said:
    The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
    I don’t get this at all either. Comes then Goes is the only one that has an Ed solo feel to me. The rest seems very collaborative 
    Well Comes then Goes is Eddie solo.
  • Red Lukin said:
    Definitely some great moments on the album but I can also find parts of each song I do not like. Either the music gets boring. Or too many ohhhs, and la la la's.  A few moments where I feel like I'm listening to some top 40 rock pop band like the killers.

    I'm sure some songs will grow on my like amongst the waves and lightening bolt (the song) did but overall don't love it.  I think they could have made a better album if they just threw something together in 2 weeks.  I mean the guys can play and Ed can still sing but tried too hard to make a unique album.  Props to them for that but doesn't do it for me.

    Maybe it's money. Or age.  Seems to happen with most bands. Once $$$ rolls in it's hard to keep that rawness and edge which is why fans loved you to begin with. 

    3 albums in a row that I've been less than impress with but I'll still go to the odd show.  They always sound better live. Even the songs that do nothing for me on album.
    I’m liking Gigaton more and more as I listen, after not liking the last two albums all that much. Definitely understand what you mean about sounding like “a top 40 rock band” which to me started with Backspacer, but there’s def a lot less of that here than on that last two albums and I think a big part of that is the absence of BoB.
  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,491
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    JimmyV said:
    The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
    How many songs did Ed write out of the 12?



    He wrote the music to 7 songs with two of those being a team effort and the lyrics to 9. The only songs to my ears that can be on a solo EV album are Comes Then Goes and River Cross and maybe the end of Retrograde. 
    Thanks for the info.  Mike and Stone need to up their writing game!!!
    Yeah Stone must have been on a European Vacation or something when they were making the album and then the band called him and asked him for some material and he said: " Well I do have have this little diddy called Buckle Up?".  ;)


  • Habit4meHabit4me Posts: 155
    JimmyV said:
    The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
    River Cross, Comes then Goes, Retrograde. Might as well be b-sides on Into The Wild. AND THAT IS NOT A BAD THING.
  • CO278952CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,371
    I respect the OP for posting his opinion and think calling him a troll is dumb. After taking a couple days away I am loving this record way more. Songs like never destination and buckle up are suddenly great. Loving it. We’ll give river cross some more time. It’s a cool song but stretched out a bit for me still. 
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,339
    Habit4me said:
    JimmyV said:
    The "it's an Ed solo album" stuff blows my mind. I don't know what some people are hearing.
    River Cross, Comes then Goes, Retrograde. Might as well be b-sides on Into The Wild. AND THAT IS NOT A BAD THING.

    Even that though. Three songs off the whole album, one of which Ed didn't write. It's weird.
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  • BennyLaRueBennyLaRue Posts: 751
    on2legs said:
    People liking The Fixer though, they are an exception. Sacrifice them to thin the herd.
    The Fixer : SBWF :: Tomatoes : Ketchup
    I can't decipher that.
    The Fixer : SBWF :: Julmust : Coca-Cola
    Hmm. Should be the other way around... I think
    Yes
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