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I’m Sorry But Gigaton Is A Major Dissapointment

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    BennyLaRueBennyLaRue Posts: 751
    LukinAtU said:
    Stone's contribution, Buckle Up. FFS. worst song ever
    Buckle Up > Let the Records Play
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    TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,464
    Long Red said:
    Think about it like this: The album's only a major disappointment if you don't like it. If you do like it, it's a major triumph. 

    Did I just blow all your minds?

    Personally, I think it's their most compelling and complete album since Avocado. But then again, I like it, so maybe my opinion is biased. 
    Dude! Why do you have to jump in here and mess this whole thing up??? We were functioning as a perfectly dysfunctional PJ message board and now you come in and want to fix it. Hahaha! I'm loving Gigaton btw! Just like the last few albums there are a couple of slow songs that may have been better off on an Ed solo record but with Gigaton the good songs are so good! 
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    slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,758
    eboweddie said:
    New pearl jam and Brian fallon lp landed thr same day. 2 top lps. Gigaton is fantastic. Its very  uplifting I think. Great lp for  a 55 minute run!!!
    Feel bad for Fallon. Ordered his album too but it's been getting the shaft at my house. Will get around to it soon, I hope.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,149
    edited March 2020
    Top 8 Pearl Jam Albums and Bond Films since 2003
     

    1) Skyfall
    2) Backspacer
    3) Casino Royale
    4) Gigaton
    5) Pearl Jam
    6) Lightning Bolt
    7) Quantum of Solace
    8) Spectre
    1) Pearl Jam
    2) Gigaton
    3)  Lightning Bolt
    4) Quantum of Solace 
    5) Casino Royale 
    6) Skyfall
    7) Backspacer
    8) Spectre
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    BennyLaRueBennyLaRue Posts: 751
    The important thing is we agree on #8.
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    NacreRockNacreRock Posts: 91
    edited March 2020

    For the following review, words such as “I”, “me”, “my” shall be construed to be this reviewer’s opinionated opinion only. The review is not sanctioned by the band, 10 Club or its fans. It is solely the opinion of this reviewer. As such, the reviewer further reveals that no payments, monetary or otherwise, were received. The reviewer also agrees that the below review will subject them to possible negativity from the fan base. As such, below is my humble review:

    I believe this album isn’t too bad. I also think it might be pretty good. My actual opinion may or may not have more depth, but I am too scared to reveal it.

    I like James Bond movies.

    Thank you and go wash your hands.


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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,440
    NacreRock said:

    For the following review, words such as “I”, “me”, “my” shall be construed to be this reviewer’s opinionated opinion only. The review is not sanctioned by the band, 10 Club or its fans. It is solely the opinion of this reviewer. As such, the reviewer further reveals that no payments, monetary or otherwise, were received. The reviewer also agrees that the below review will subject them to possible negativity from the fan base. As such, below is my humble review:

    I believe this album isn’t too bad. I also think it might be pretty good. My actual opinion may or may not have more depth, but I am too scared to reveal it.

    I like James Bond movies.

    Thank you and go wash your hands.


    Chicken ;)
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    eboweddie said:
    New pearl jam and Brian fallon lp landed thr same day. 2 top lps. Gigaton is fantastic. Its very  uplifting I think. Great lp for  a 55 minute run!!!
    Feel bad for Fallon. Ordered his album too but it's been getting the shaft at my house. Will get around to it soon, I hope.
    It's a little sleepy and sad for me right now, I like it the least of all the solo records. Nothing bad on it, but just not the vibe I'm looking for now
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    BennyLaRueBennyLaRue Posts: 751
    Ok, listened a couple more times and I need to change my rankings:

    Top 15 Pearl Jam Albums, Bond Films and Canadian Chocolate Bars since 2003

    1) Wunderbar
    2) Skyfall
    3) Backspacer
    4) Coffee Crisp
    5) Gigaton
    6) Casino Royale
    7) Pearl Jam
    8) Mr. Big 
    9) Caramilk
    10) Lightning Bolt
    11) Aero
    12) Quantum of Solace
    13) Crispy Crunch
    14) Crunchie
    15) Spectre
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    THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,695
    it’s a great it’s a great album. The OP is a troll
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,150
    Ok, listened a couple more times and I need to change my rankings:

    Top 15 Pearl Jam Albums, Bond Films and Canadian Chocolate Bars since 2003

    1) Wunderbar
    2) Skyfall
    3) Backspacer
    4) Coffee Crisp
    5) Gigaton
    6) Casino Royale
    7) Pearl Jam
    8) Mr. Big 
    9) Caramilk
    10) Lightning Bolt
    11) Aero
    12) Quantum of Solace
    13) Crispy Crunch
    14) Crunchie
    15) Spectre
    Hahaha Canada 


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    clance65clance65 Posts: 5
    I dig it. Love the vinyl, love the artwork, love the vibe & the flow of the record. 
    I respect the OP’s opinion. 
    I’m getting to a place right now in life where I’m starting to feel better when I respect everyone’s opinion, whether I agree or not. 

    As for Gigaton - I don’t want to rank it. There’s something I truly dig about every PJ release. Some, more than others. Clairvoyants is quite a trip! 

    Looking forward to my EKG shirt! Have a good night everyone! 
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,850
    Ok, listened a couple more times and I need to change my rankings:

    Top 15 Pearl Jam Albums, Bond Films and Canadian Chocolate Bars since 2003

    1) Wunderbar
    2) Skyfall
    3) Backspacer
    4) Coffee Crisp
    5) Gigaton
    6) Casino Royale
    7) Pearl Jam
    8) Mr. Big 
    9) Caramilk
    10) Lightning Bolt
    11) Aero
    12) Quantum of Solace
    13) Crispy Crunch
    14) Crunchie
    15) Spectre
    Hahaha Canada 



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    hsohihsohi Posts: 1,033
    Here's my two cents. It's late Monday night and I'm on my 31st listen of the album, to say I can't get enough of it would be an understatement. The only other album I gravitated to immediately like this was Yield, and that speaks volumes for me. Binaural, Riot Act, Avocado, Backspacer & Lightning Bolt were all great albums with a bunch of good songs on them, but I think it took seeing some of the songs live first before I could go back and listen to any of those albums from beginning to end with a greater appreciation.

    Gigaton on the other hand is a stunning piece of work as a whole right from the get go for me. From the opening chords of Who Ever Said to the closing notes of River Cross this album takes you on an musical journey. The bands sound feels fresh but strangely familiar at times with every song perfectly intertwining with the next and Ed's lyrics are so masterfully crafted and filled with nods to his hero's all throughout the album, he'll have you lost in Google searches for days. 

    It's true folks, we've got a masterpiece on our hands with this one. And to do it at this stage in their career is pretty remarkable when you think about it. Most bands who've been around as long as they have (or longer) aren't putting out quality music like this that's for sure as most of them are riding the nostalgia, 401k tour circuit gravy train with make shift lineups that have maybe one or two original members at best nowadays. 

     
    Interesting how you did not gravitate to Ten or VS.
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    BennyLaRueBennyLaRue Posts: 751


    Deadliest animal in Canada right there
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    DJ253147DJ253147 Posts: 640
    vito said:
    Here's my two cents. It's late Monday night and I'm on my 31st listen of the album, to say I can't get enough of this album would be an understatement. The only other album I gravitated to immediately like this was Yield, and that speaks volumes for me. Binaural, Riot Act, Avocado, Backspacer & Lightning Bolt were all great albums with a bunch of good songs on them, but I think it took seeing some of the songs live first before I could go back and listen to any of those albums from beginning to end with a greater appreciation.

    Gigaton on the other hand is a stunning piece of work as a whole right from the get go for me. From the opening chords of Who Ever Said to the closing notes of River Cross this album takes you on an musical journey. The bands sound feels fresh but strangely familiar at times with every song perfectly intertwining with the next and Ed's lyrics are so masterfully crafted and filled with nods to his hero's all throughout the album, he'll have you lost in Google searches for days. 

    It's true folks, we've got a masterpiece on our hands with this one. And to do it at this stage in their career is pretty remarkable when you think about it. Most bands who've been around as long as they have (or longer) aren't putting out quality music like this that's for sure as most of them are riding the nostalgia, 401k tour circuit gravy train with make shift lineups that have maybe one or two original members at best nowadays. 

     
    AMEN!
    I’ve only got one spin of this under my belt so certainly not enough to form a solid opinion but could not agree more with the last paragraph beginning with “And to do it at this stage........ Although my wife and I didn’t get into Pj seriously until 2006(18 shows) we’ve made this comment many,many times. Most of the big classic rock acts we grew up with you really hoped after the 10-12 year mark that they would NOT put out another album and just go the nostalgia route. It’s all icing on the cake now that this band can put this much effort into it after almost 3 decades -offering up a new album and of course the incendiary live performances. Enjoy!
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    bigbiggzybigbiggzy Posts: 713
    Here's my two cents. It's late Monday night and I'm on my 31st listen of the album, to say I can't get enough of it would be an understatement. The only other album I gravitated to immediately like this was Yield, and that speaks volumes for me. Binaural, Riot Act, Avocado, Backspacer & Lightning Bolt were all great albums with a bunch of good songs on them, but I think it took seeing some of the songs live first before I could go back and listen to any of those albums from beginning to end with a greater appreciation.

    Gigaton on the other hand is a stunning piece of work as a whole right from the get go for me. From the opening chords of Who Ever Said to the closing notes of River Cross this album takes you on an musical journey. The bands sound feels fresh but strangely familiar at times with every song perfectly intertwining with the next and Ed's lyrics are so masterfully crafted and filled with nods to his hero's all throughout the album, he'll have you lost in Google searches for days. 

    It's true folks, we've got a masterpiece on our hands with this one. And to do it at this stage in their career is pretty remarkable when you think about it. Most bands who've been around as long as they have (or longer) aren't putting out quality music like this that's for sure as most of them are riding the nostalgia, 401k tour circuit gravy train with make shift lineups that have maybe one or two original members at best nowadays. 

     
    I’ve been saying to myself and a few others close to me that I think this is (one of) their masterpiece....their magnum opus.  It really does take you on a ride.  My wife immediately said upon first listen that it’s kinda like seeing a show (I felt the same way).  The sequencing on this one is such a key to its success.  Bravo, PJ!
    And well stated RM.  I agree.  To do this at any point in their career is a feat, but do this 3 decades in is beyond expectation.  Truly love it.

    OP - here’s to hoping it will eventually ‘click’ for you.  If not, too each their own.  No harm, no foul.    
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    potnikpotnik Posts: 444
    KC138045 said:
    I was very excited to to crank this new album on my way home from work yesterday. It started out great with Who Ever Said and I was loving it up thorough Quick Escape then it quickly went downhill. I kept waiting for the next song to bring it back but that didn’t happen.  Ive listened to it now multiple times trying to like it but I just don’t. I personally put this as their worse album and it sounds more of an Ed solo album than a full band effort in my opinion. 
    Wow, maybe I am old, but I have grown up with this band and love it.  Look at the liner notes and all you need to see is that it was created by all of them.  Now more than ever take into account social relevance.  

    Haven't read all the comments, but good luck in life it this doesn't speak to you.  

    Jeremy
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    ConorKavanaghConorKavanagh Ireland Posts: 1,148
    @ConorKavanagh I’m not taking anything personal. In fact I don’t give a shit what people think of me or my opinions. I didn’t make the album although I do like it. I was agreeing with you saying if someone doesn’t like it just listen to something else. So much negative BS on these boards. The first rule of Pearl Jam is and always has been “Don’t be an asshole” we should try to remember that. Especially in these trying times. Stay safe friends and spread a little kindness! 
    I was agreeing with you also! Sorry if it seemed otherwise. Part of me loving this record is because of when it was released. I needed this thing!
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    Peacefrog1975Peacefrog1975 Posts: 718
    edited April 2020
    @ConorKavanagh I’m not taking anything personal. In fact I don’t give a shit what people think of me or my opinions. I didn’t make the album although I do like it. I was agreeing with you saying if someone doesn’t like it just listen to something else. So much negative BS on these boards. The first rule of Pearl Jam is and always has been “Don’t be an asshole” we should try to remember that. Especially in these trying times. Stay safe friends and spread a little kindness! 
    I was agreeing with you also! Sorry if it seemed otherwise. Part of me loving this record is because of when it was released. I needed this thing!
    @ConorKavanagh I got you my friend. I think we all needed this right now! Stay safe and keep listening to all the albums, their music will get us through our darkest days. It always has and it always will! 
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    ConorKavanaghConorKavanagh Ireland Posts: 1,148
    At this stage music in general is keeping me going. I'm listening to all of it, all the freakin time ha ha. I have intentionally taken it easy on Gigaton, trying not to play it to death, because I want it to be with me for the long haul. Keep the faith!
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    JM24973JM24973 Posts: 2
    I wasn't feeling it after the first few listens and then it just clicked. Same thing happened when No Code came out, I hated it other than a couple songs and then after a couple weeks it clicked and to this day it is still my favorite PJ album. I think Gigaton is fantastic and best album since Yield.
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    Way too soon to decide.  Every PJ record since Vitalogy takes me a month to digest. Not skipping any songs yet which is a good sign.
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,420
    I mean, I only unfavor (I don't really want to say dislike) 3 songs in the entire PJ catalog - and even one of those I'm starting to come around to - so maybe my opinion means nothing, but Gigaton is a friggin' masterpiece.
    I'm also glad people hate it.  Maybe it will start thinning the herd.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,149
    edited April 2020
    I mean, I only unfavor (I don't really want to say dislike) 3 songs in the entire PJ catalog - and even one of those I'm starting to come around to - so maybe my opinion means nothing, but Gigaton is a friggin' masterpiece.
    I'm also glad people hate it.  Maybe it will start thinning the herd.
    Be better than the "leave so I get a better number", "leave so I get better tickets to the MGS show" etc stuff.

    I'm glad people think differently on the album because it shows a spectrum of thought and that fans aren't a one thought monolith that worships everything (or hate everything) by the altar of PJ. 

    People liking The Fixer though, they are an exception. Sacrifice them to thin the herd.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,102
    bigbiggzy said:
    Here's my two cents. It's late Monday night and I'm on my 31st listen of the album, to say I can't get enough of it would be an understatement. The only other album I gravitated to immediately like this was Yield, and that speaks volumes for me. Binaural, Riot Act, Avocado, Backspacer & Lightning Bolt were all great albums with a bunch of good songs on them, but I think it took seeing some of the songs live first before I could go back and listen to any of those albums from beginning to end with a greater appreciation.

    Gigaton on the other hand is a stunning piece of work as a whole right from the get go for me. From the opening chords of Who Ever Said to the closing notes of River Cross this album takes you on an musical journey. The bands sound feels fresh but strangely familiar at times with every song perfectly intertwining with the next and Ed's lyrics are so masterfully crafted and filled with nods to his hero's all throughout the album, he'll have you lost in Google searches for days. 

    It's true folks, we've got a masterpiece on our hands with this one. And to do it at this stage in their career is pretty remarkable when you think about it. Most bands who've been around as long as they have (or longer) aren't putting out quality music like this that's for sure as most of them are riding the nostalgia, 401k tour circuit gravy train with make shift lineups that have maybe one or two original members at best nowadays. 

     
    I’ve been saying to myself and a few others close to me that I think this is (one of) their masterpiece....their magnum opus.  It really does take you on a ride.  My wife immediately said upon first listen that it’s kinda like seeing a show (I felt the same way).  The sequencing on this one is such a key to its success.  Bravo, PJ!
    And well stated RM.  I agree.  To do this at any point in their career is a feat, but do this 3 decades in is beyond expectation.  Truly love it.

    OP - here’s to hoping it will eventually ‘click’ for you.  If not, too each their own.  No harm, no foul.    
    Masterpiece?

    Man I wish I was hearing what you all are.

    I'll give it another listen today.
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    VeddernarianVeddernarian Posts: 1,921
    Loved it at first, gets even better for me after several listens.  My only WTF was Buckle Up.  Tolerate it, don't love it.  I would have preferred about 15 seconds of Buckle Up acoustic guitar without drums with a quick transition to Of the Earth in the same light as Sabbath's 'Symptom of the universe'.  But if that is all that is wrong to me, that is great.  

    These threads follow every release.  I remember the caustic debate and criticism over things like the the small solo/transition in Marker in the sand.  There were entire debates about it and with serious fuming. 

    The Fixer?  That was another one.  

    Aside donuts, I guess you can't satisfy everyone.
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    bigbiggzybigbiggzy Posts: 713
    bigbiggzy said:
    Here's my two cents. It's late Monday night and I'm on my 31st listen of the album, to say I can't get enough of it would be an understatement. The only other album I gravitated to immediately like this was Yield, and that speaks volumes for me. Binaural, Riot Act, Avocado, Backspacer & Lightning Bolt were all great albums with a bunch of good songs on them, but I think it took seeing some of the songs live first before I could go back and listen to any of those albums from beginning to end with a greater appreciation.

    Gigaton on the other hand is a stunning piece of work as a whole right from the get go for me. From the opening chords of Who Ever Said to the closing notes of River Cross this album takes you on an musical journey. The bands sound feels fresh but strangely familiar at times with every song perfectly intertwining with the next and Ed's lyrics are so masterfully crafted and filled with nods to his hero's all throughout the album, he'll have you lost in Google searches for days. 

    It's true folks, we've got a masterpiece on our hands with this one. And to do it at this stage in their career is pretty remarkable when you think about it. Most bands who've been around as long as they have (or longer) aren't putting out quality music like this that's for sure as most of them are riding the nostalgia, 401k tour circuit gravy train with make shift lineups that have maybe one or two original members at best nowadays. 

     
    I’ve been saying to myself and a few others close to me that I think this is (one of) their masterpiece....their magnum opus.  It really does take you on a ride.  My wife immediately said upon first listen that it’s kinda like seeing a show (I felt the same way).  The sequencing on this one is such a key to its success.  Bravo, PJ!
    And well stated RM.  I agree.  To do this at any point in their career is a feat, but do this 3 decades in is beyond expectation.  Truly love it.

    OP - here’s to hoping it will eventually ‘click’ for you.  If not, too each their own.  No harm, no foul.    
    Masterpiece?

    Man I wish I was hearing what you all are.

    I'll give it another listen today.
    Throw on some headphones and turn it up.  Take a look at the lyrics as well if you haven’t already.  They put a lot into this one.
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    bigbiggzybigbiggzy Posts: 713
    One other thing....watch the videos they created for each song.  
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    PianoManKDPianoManKD Posts: 125
    My Top 10 Phil Collins Songs (in no particular order):

    Colours

    Find A Way To My Heart

    It Don’t Matter To Me

    Another Time

    I Don’t Wanna Know

    All Of My Life

    I Wish It Would Rain Down

    Inside Out

    Doesn’t Anybody Stay Together Anymore

    Father To Son

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