Spring NA Tour Officially Postponed

Tim Simmons

Playing the All Lives Are Corrupt card. Sweet

JBob87

I get being upset. I am. It is going to cost me a good chunk of $ and there is no guarantee I will be able to make the rescheduled dates (plea for a livestream?). It really sucks. 

But dismissing this as “only 500 cases NBD” is so disengenuous. There are 500-1000 cases right now that we know of but probably many more due to lack of testing. Further, a week ago there were 100. It’s not hard to project some really big numbers in 2-4 weeks time unless active steps are taken to slow the spread which is exactly what this move does.

edocon

Anyone have any luck getting a credit from JetBlue? I booked flights for my family from LA to NYC back in January, but they're only allowing cancellations for people who booked after Feb 27. 

YAKIMATSU

pjhawks said:

i'm shocked and dismayed there are still fans of this band who think this band will ever consciously put their own fans in harms away again after what happened at Roskilde.  Shocked at the selfishness of some fans here.  selfish because they want shows to go on despite the possible effects on others.  fact is we don't really know where this virus is taking us.  lessening the risk AT THIS TIME is the right move for the greater good.  be for the greater good people. 

Posted about that yesterday just before thread was closed.  I find it disturbing how little people care.

Saltzy23

Tim Simmons said:

So there is no absolute truth anymore then, huh? Trust no one because theres nothing left to trust. 


I guess this is the real damage done by Trump over the past few years.

Bing....bing....bing...

I've never been a conspiracy theorist, but this orange shit stain has now eroded my confidence in pretty much everything with his incessant lies, exaggerations, finger pointing and name calling.

Make America Great Again!

PP193448

Tim Simmons said:

Playing the All Lives Are Corrupt card. Sweet

Sorry I forgot that only the republicans are corrupt.  My mistake.  BTW I’m not a Trump supporter.

SB117186

I was wondering if there would be an announcement regarding the tour.  Not surprised.  They will reschedule, hopefully we can get a babysitter for the rescheduled date!  Still have the new album to look forward to!!

IlliniGuy76

Sibidy7 said:

Nobody else is postponing. I'll be going to the Metropolitan opera on the 29th and Thom Yorke now on the 30th at Radio City Music Hall.

So far Pear Jam is the only band to postpone a tour in the US.  Sorry but doesnt seek like it is necessary as they are the only ones doing it.

Coachella & Stagecoach will be postponed (SxSW already has)
San Jose Sharks will be playing in front of an empty arena for the next many weeks
I 100% promise you there will be additional NBA/NHL/MLB teams playing in empty stadiums in cities where there is a large concentration of folks with the virus
NYC has discussed seriously the idea of stopping the subway from running

You're right - not a necessity at all to postpone a tour LOL

lastexit78

Has anyone had any success using Expedia's COVID-19 Cancellation Form? I enter my information and it just errors out every time. It's for my hotel in Oakland which was non refundable. Sucks because I used all my points to pay for half the room and cancelling won't get me back my points which is total BS. I don't want to call the 800 number because they are discouraging that right now and I know the wait would be hours. Guess I can wait a few weeks and try again. Just didn't know if anyone else had experienced the same. 

IlliniGuy76

lastexit78 said:

Has anyone had any success using Expedia's COVID-19 Cancellation Form? I enter my information and it just errors out every time. It's for my hotel in Oakland which was non refundable. Sucks because I used all my points to pay for half the room and cancelling won't get me back my points which is total BS. I don't want to call the 800 number because they are discouraging that right now and I know the wait would be hours. Guess I can wait a few weeks and try again. Just didn't know if anyone else had experienced the same. 

No joke - wait till like 11-12 at night and call.  I did this with Hotwire last night, waited 3 mins and had my "hot deal" room canceled w/n 5 mins.

know1

pjhawks said:

know1 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Saltzy23 said:

This sentiment of 'you guys are selfish assholes for being pissed off' is really starting to get under my skin.

Many people believe this entire thing is being blown WAAAAY out of proportion, which is creating global panic and is crashing markets around the world....in addition to costing us something that we have all been counting down the days to as well as $ and time.

If I felt as though this was all actually necessary I would be completely in favor of cancelling this tour.

Personally, I feel like the media and other forces seem to be actively trying to freak people out and get them to panic, instead of putting people at ease that the chances of getting this thing are very slim, and that even if they do, there is a very, very good chance they are gonna be fine.

Ok. people and the media are blowing it out of proportion, fine. Whats their endgame in doing so?

Clicks and political influence. The media - all of it - ceased to be trustworthy a long, long time ago.

Italy has basically shut down their own country. is that for clicks and political influence? is that to hurt trump?  be smarter

I have no idea why Italy shut down. I'm not there. Are you? Maybe they have their own reasons. 

know1

YAKIMATSU said:

pjhawks said:

i'm shocked and dismayed there are still fans of this band who think this band will ever consciously put their own fans in harms away again after what happened at Roskilde.  Shocked at the selfishness of some fans here.  selfish because they want shows to go on despite the possible effects on others.  fact is we don't really know where this virus is taking us.  lessening the risk AT THIS TIME is the right move for the greater good.  be for the greater good people. 

Posted about that yesterday just before thread was closed.  I find it disturbing how little people care.

"Harms way" is highly subjective, though. I know what you are trying to say, but where is the line that says the risk is too much?

lastexit78

IlliniGuy76 said:

lastexit78 said:

Has anyone had any success using Expedia's COVID-19 Cancellation Form? I enter my information and it just errors out every time. It's for my hotel in Oakland which was non refundable. Sucks because I used all my points to pay for half the room and cancelling won't get me back my points which is total BS. I don't want to call the 800 number because they are discouraging that right now and I know the wait would be hours. Guess I can wait a few weeks and try again. Just didn't know if anyone else had experienced the same. 

No joke - wait till like 11-12 at night and call.  I did this with Hotwire last night, waited 3 mins and had my "hot deal" room canceled w/n 5 mins.

Thanks buddy, I'll give that a try one of these nights. Just don't want to get stiffed the $170. I could still just go and enjoy the weekend but at this point I'm not even sure what's going to be open in regards to restaurants and other experiences. 

mpedone

know1 said:

YAKIMATSU said:

pjhawks said:

i'm shocked and dismayed there are still fans of this band who think this band will ever consciously put their own fans in harms away again after what happened at Roskilde.  Shocked at the selfishness of some fans here.  selfish because they want shows to go on despite the possible effects on others.  fact is we don't really know where this virus is taking us.  lessening the risk AT THIS TIME is the right move for the greater good.  be for the greater good people. 

Posted about that yesterday just before thread was closed.  I find it disturbing how little people care.

"Harms way" is highly subjective, though. I know what you are trying to say, but where is the line that says the risk is too much?

I'd say a new, (potentially) lethal virus that we're still learning about, but know that it is easily spread - especially in large crowds - is probably over that line.

GW2553

Looking for something to do tonight, check The Brothers:Celebrating 50 Yeas Of the Allman Brothers @MSG tonight.

Stub Hub can get you in the door for less than 20 bucks.  Greedy scalpers.

mace1229

Why does someone disagreeing with you make them a bad person o disingenuous? I'm referring to the posts that say "I can't believe people are so selfish, etc.
I, and several others on here, have an opinion this is an over reaction. That is my opinion. That does not make me a bad person. At worst, it makes me misinformed about the situation. And maybe I am, but when I see the hysteria all around me of no toilet paper in the city and people selling them on craigslist for 10 times what they paid, that supports my idea that this is all overblown.
I'm not trying to be insensitive to those at risk or who have it, but 500 cases in a country of 320+ million really is nothing deserving of the attention, fear and hype this is getting.
The fear and over hype of this is why we are short basic supplies and medicine. If you disagree with me that is fine, I'm not going to call you a fearmongerer or blame you when I run out of toilet paper in 3 weeks. We can disagree without 1 of us being a bad person.
I still think at this point in time there isn't a big enough reason to cancel. That can all change in a week or two, but as of right now that is how I feel.

DewieCox

darwinstheory said:

DewieCox said:

Lerxst1992 said:

DewieCox said:

EarlWelsh said:

PJINFLA said:

Nice job blaming the government

They definitely didn’t BLAME the government, only pointed out the less than stellar job Dr. Don is doing of handling the situation.

It didn’t need mentioned. Only serves to further the divide.

The key word there is further.

Crisis like these demand quality leadership. Every American has every right to demand it.

What we dont need is a president more concerned about "how the numbers hurt him" and not the families dealing with this illness.

If someone like Vedder is bullied into silence then who speaks up?

The divide is built in to human nature. People don’t see things the same and everyone has their biases and reasons for their beliefs. 

There are better ways to speak up than deflecting the blame in a nearly blameless situation.

I don’t want Eddie Vedder as a spokesman on health crises nor do I want some famous right winger with a mic downplaying it. I want people that know wtf they’re talking about. 

Nobody is bullying. Don’t be so dramatic. 

I'm okay with this, so long as you criticize Donald Trump and Michael Pence whenever they discuss anything to do with any health crisis. Fair is fair.

Nice try!! As much as you wanted to pick a fight with a Trumper that’s not the case here. 

I’m not saying in a “ shut up about what you don’t know” way. Just feels contrived to me.

nc_jammer1

Disney Land and Disney World are still open,  Tool played lastnight in Spokane , tomorrow in Portland, etc etc... these are tough decisions, some are just pushing through to try get to the other side.

Weston1283

nc_jammer1 said:

Disney Land and Disney World are still open,  Tool played lastnight in Spokane , tomorrow in Portland, etc etc... these are tough decisions, some are just pushing through to try get to the other side.

Billie Eilish kicked off her arena tour last night.  Will be interesting to follow TOOL and RATM and see if they follow suite with their upcoming March/April shows

DewieCox

Tim Simmons said:

So there is no absolute truth anymore then, huh? Trust no one because theres nothing left to trust. 


I guess this is the real damage done by Trump over the past few years.

Is there? Have you heard it? It’s nearly impossible to dig through the spin.

Most of that  damage has been there long before Trump  and will remain long after.