I have put a lot thought into this so bear with me. What could a fall rescheduled tour look like?
Last date in Europe is July 24th, keep in mind all these dates i came up with would have the same day of week for the postponed shows.
This is just to show how the fall and spring tour legs could be combined, New shows can be sold bringing in new revenue and making all of us somewhat whole. This provides the virus peaks in the US end of March.
"Having no examples of our national health department’s
ability to get ahead of this....."
Has any nation been able to get ahead of this?
When the Trump administration first banned flights from China, they were hysterically called "racist" by all of Eddie's media and political friends on the left...from Politico, Feb. 4:
"The Trump administration’s quarantine and travel ban in response to the Wuhan coronavirus could undercut international efforts to fight the outbreak by antagonizing Chinese leaders, as well as stigmatizing people of Asian descent."
Because that's what's most important, not antagonizing the Communist Chinese who lied, tried to hide it, and ultimately helped it spread around the world. Oh, and hurting people's feelings, because being racist is a way bigger deal than the spread of a deadly disease.
Look, I'm no big fan of the Stable Genius, but to claim that we didn't at least try to "get ahead of this" is asinine and ignorant.
Only time will tell. The death toll in China is around 3,100. Their population is 4 times the U.S. Crudely, if we "handle" it as well as they have we should have less than 1,000 deaths. China took pretty severe measures that simply will not fly here. So we shall see. When you consider a population of 1.4 billion people and 3,100 dead, seems like all this is just insanity.
Zac Brown Band has cancelled their spring tour. I wonder if the Lumineers or Billie Eilish will cancel next.
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2006-5-09 Toronto
2007-8-03 (ed w/ ben harper) chicago / 2007-8-05 chicago
2008-8-12 (ed solo) toronto
2009-10-08 (ed solo) Albany
2011-9-11 Toronto / 2011-9-12 Toronto
2013-7-16 London, ON / 2013-7-19 Chicago / 2013-10-12 Buffalo
2016-5-11 Toronto, On / 2016-5-13 Toronto, On
Only time will tell. The death toll in China is around 3,100. Their population is 4 times the U.S. Crudely, if we "handle" it as well as they have we should have less than 1,000 deaths. China took pretty severe measures that simply will not fly here. So we shall see. When you consider a population of 1.4 billion people and 3,100 dead, seems like all this is just insanity.
What if one of those people is your mother or grandmother who you infect after returning home from traveling?
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That prospective tour schedule is pretty cool. Also, ambitious. Can't play everywhere, but I'm sure the Boston and Philly people will be after you with pitchforks for leaving them off.
also, China ONLY has that many dead because they took very drastic measures, so what do we need to do so that we don’t do worse?
But also we can’t just look at deaths. We have to look at how busy hospitals were. How many died because they couldn’t get the care they needed from non corona sickness. And then the costs that people will have to incur from hospital stays from surviving. Doing anything to minimize spread is not insanity. Insanity is just wait and seeing what happens.
Only time will tell. The death toll in China is around 3,100. Their population is 4 times the U.S. Crudely, if we "handle" it as well as they have we should have less than 1,000 deaths. China took pretty severe measures that simply will not fly here. So we shall see. When you consider a population of 1.4 billion people and 3,100 dead, seems like all this is just insanity.
agree...how bout we dont tour during flu season....c'mon another thing for us to panic about....too soon
We have vaccinations to deal with the flu. We don’t for this yet.
also, notice that larger bands generally don’t tour during flu season. They tour during the spring through fall. Smaller bands don’t really have the choice.
I have put a lot thought into this so bear with me. What could a fall rescheduled tour look like?
Last date in Europe is July 24th, keep in mind all these dates i came up with would have the same day of week for the postponed shows.
This is just to show how the fall and spring tour legs could be combined, New shows can be sold bringing in new revenue and making all of us somewhat whole. This provides the virus peaks in the US end of March.
BTW no F5in ... ive had time on my hands!
Maybe Canada Shows can be done in May -
Apollo Show May 23rd -
European Shows- June 23-July 24
Start in Canada Aug 12
Toronto Wednesday Aug 12
Ottawa Friday Aug 14
Quebec Sunday Aug 16
Hamilton Tuesday Aug 18
(NEW) Baltimore 1 -Friday Aug21
Baltimore 2 ( Makeup) Saturday - Aug22
NY-MSG (Makeup) - Monday Aug 24
(NEW) NY MSG 2 Tuesday Aug 25
Nashville - Thursday Aug 27
St Louis - Saturday Aug 29
Oklahoma City - Monday Aug 31
Denver - Thursday Sept 3
(NEW) Kansas City Saturday Sept 5
(NEW) Minneapolis Monday Sept 7
(NEW) Milwaukee Wednesday Sept 9
(NEW) Chicago - Saturday Sept 11
(NEW) Chicago -Sunday Sept 12
(NEW) Detroit - Tuesday - Sept 14
(NEW) Pittsburgh - Thursday Sept 16
SEA HEAR NOW NJ Shore - Sept 19
(NEW) Atlanta - Tuesday Sept 21
(NEW) Dallas - Thursday Sept 23
OHANA - Sunday Sept 27th
LA 1 Wednesday Sept 30th
LA 2 Thursday OCT 1st
OAK 1 - Saturday Oct 3rd
OAK 2 - Sunday Oct 4th
(NEW) Portland - Tuesday Oct 6th
(NEW) Tacoma - Thursday Oct 8th
Phoenix - Saturday Oct 10th
San Diego - Monday Oct 12th
This is dedication and I would gladly take those northeast shows
I'm really not trying to call anyone names, but the paranoid Trumpers are REALLY playing in another dimension now. Like, this is like Scientology but worse.
I have put a lot thought into this so bear with me. What could a fall rescheduled tour look like?
Last date in Europe is July 24th, keep in mind all these dates i came up with would have the same day of week for the postponed shows.
This is just to show how the fall and spring tour legs could be combined, New shows can be sold bringing in new revenue and making all of us somewhat whole. This provides the virus peaks in the US end of March.
BTW no F5in ... ive had time on my hands!
Maybe Canada Shows can be done in May -
Apollo Show May 23rd -
European Shows- June 23-July 24
Start in Canada Aug 12
Toronto Wednesday Aug 12
Ottawa Friday Aug 14
Quebec Sunday Aug 16
Hamilton Tuesday Aug 18
(NEW) Baltimore 1 -Friday Aug21
Baltimore 2 ( Makeup) Saturday - Aug22
NY-MSG (Makeup) - Monday Aug 24
(NEW) NY MSG 2 Tuesday Aug 25
Nashville - Thursday Aug 27
St Louis - Saturday Aug 29
Oklahoma City - Monday Aug 31
Denver - Thursday Sept 3
(NEW) Kansas City Saturday Sept 5
(NEW) Minneapolis Monday Sept 7
(NEW) Milwaukee Wednesday Sept 9
(NEW) Chicago - Saturday Sept 11
(NEW) Chicago -Sunday Sept 12
(NEW) Detroit - Tuesday - Sept 14
(NEW) Pittsburgh - Thursday Sept 16
SEA HEAR NOW NJ Shore - Sept 19
(NEW) Atlanta - Tuesday Sept 21
(NEW) Dallas - Thursday Sept 23
OHANA - Sunday Sept 27th
LA 1 Wednesday Sept 30th
LA 2 Thursday OCT 1st
OAK 1 - Saturday Oct 3rd
OAK 2 - Sunday Oct 4th
(NEW) Portland - Tuesday Oct 6th
(NEW) Tacoma - Thursday Oct 8th
Phoenix - Saturday Oct 10th
San Diego - Monday Oct 12th
This is dedication and I would gladly take those northeast shows
Basically the same pattern of Toronto/Balt/Nashville/StL? Hell yes. The only way that would be more perfect is if they were 2 months later - during hockey season!
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
just because other bands are touring doesn't mean its the best idea. if this virus ramps up most tours will come to a halt. do you think this band with their history wants anyone to catch this virus at one of their shows and be responsible for a death. i doubt it. i had a very strong feeling this would happen. i can't see any new dates until more time goes by and we see where we are as far as spreading. the thing is this is just starting in many areas. most likely there will be many areas shut down for 2 weeks to try and get a stop of this virus. or even just to give hospitals a chance to get some people out. even if they came up with a vaccine it would still take a year or more to get enough doses . for all you madonna fans out there she cancelled her tour as well. i went to see nathaniel ratecliffe the other night and i have to say i didn't feel comfortable being there. right now at present the risk is still low but any day it can change. some people show no signs yet test positive. these are the ones who will spread this virus the most. the recovery period is 6 weeks. its scary because of the unknown. better to be safe than sorry. lets just get everyone through this and some where down the road we will all be at some arena enjoying ourselves again. its disappointing for now but the right thing to do.
I don’t think people from all over the world travel and attend multiple Post Malone and Chris Stapleton shows. For acts like that it’s mostly regional people attending. PJ knowing a lot of people from all over the world will be traveling to all their shows has something to do with their decision to cancel I’m sure
Washington Governor to announce restricting all sports, Concerts public gatherings to 250 and under. If it is more than that events will be cancelled. Wonder how long until we see restrictions like this all over.
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Megan McArdle discusses exponential growth in today's (Tuesday's) Washington post. She used an example of lily pads, but I've more often heard the examples of money or rice: a suitor or a faithful servant requests a dowry or reward of just one dollar or one grain of rice, with the stipulation that that payment doubles every day for a month. By the end of the month, the clever suitor/servant has bankrupted the father/employer.
Expect 10,000 cases in a week, 100,000 cases two weeks from now.
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https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/3/10/21171722/taiwan-coronavirus-china-social-distancing-quarantine
"The Trump administration’s quarantine and travel ban in response to the Wuhan coronavirus could undercut international efforts to fight the outbreak by antagonizing Chinese leaders, as well as stigmatizing people of Asian descent."
Because that's what's most important, not antagonizing the Communist Chinese who lied, tried to hide it, and ultimately helped it spread around the world. Oh, and hurting people's feelings, because being racist is a way bigger deal than the spread of a deadly disease.
Look, I'm no big fan of the Stable Genius, but to claim that we didn't at least try to "get ahead of this" is asinine and ignorant.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
2006-5-09 Toronto
2007-8-03 (ed w/ ben harper) chicago / 2007-8-05 chicago
2008-8-12 (ed solo) toronto
2009-10-08 (ed solo) Albany
2011-9-11 Toronto / 2011-9-12 Toronto
2013-7-16 London, ON / 2013-7-19 Chicago / 2013-10-12 Buffalo
2016-5-11 Toronto, On / 2016-5-13 Toronto, On
Most recent: 2018 Stadium shows: Seattle 2, Missoula, Fenway 1 and 2; 2022: Oakland 1 and 2
also, notice that larger bands generally don’t tour during flu season. They tour during the spring through fall. Smaller bands don’t really have the choice.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
They did the right thing and gave us all time to cancel travel plans as early as possible. Thank you PJ.
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Basically the same pattern of Toronto/Balt/Nashville/StL? Hell yes. The only way that would be more perfect is if they were 2 months later - during hockey season!
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