Spring NA Tour Officially Postponed

curmudgeoness · March 2020

So, if you don't see what the big deal is, or you think the band is over-reacting, or you don't trust the government, or the news, or whatever, would you like to play a game? This app will let you run simulations and see how things will spread. [NOTE: I have no connection to the app, have nothing to gain or profit from by mentioning it here, etc. ALSO NOTE: the app's creators urge you to consult the WHO and CDC for up to date, accurate information.]

https://www.ndemiccreations.com/en/22-plague-inc

Also, please, go back and read this poster's comments, closely. Especially this part:

jeffbr said:

Everyone here, including the band, is being told to practice social distancing and avoid large gatherings, especially if you're in a risk category. Over 70% of the cases have hit those > 50 years old. So the band, and I, fall into at least 1 category immediately. A second category is underlying health conditions. While the band all seems fit and healthy, the reality is that at least one of them and perhaps more likely have some condition which makes them more susceptible. Additionally, even if they are fine, they can still carry and transmit the virus to others who aren't.
So it is entirely understandable that they are not interested in putting themselves, their families or their fans in harms way and are exercising extreme caution. That caution is warranted until we get a handle on this virus. We can't contain it, but we can all do our parts to slow the spread and buy the medical community time. Our hospitals in this area are already overwhelmed and we need to work on slowing the spread so that additional pressure isn't put on the already taxed infrastructures.

I can't stress enough how important it is to slow the spread of the disease. As I keep saying, best-case scenario has demand for hospitalization FAR outstripping what's available. That's best-case. And by the way, that affects ANYONE who requires emergency care for stroke, heart attack, car accident, etc.

I know we all like to think we're not really that old, but I'm pretty sure that the bulk of PJ fans are 50+. The fatality rate climbs into "wow, that's a real number!" zone for the 50+ crowd. If you are over 60, you are urged to avoid air travel and church. If you are over 60, you should be worried.

on2legs · March 2020

I like when people just realize after almost 30 years that Pearl Jam has a political opinion.

mace1229 · March 2020

UmphreysJam34 said:

I called frontier and they’re allowing changes and cancellations with no charges for any flights in March. My flights are in April, they told me to call back when they have more info for April.

Thanks for sharing. I have full confidence any airline with policies through march will extend through April. But this saved the the time from calling to ask.

JimmyV · March 2020

The newsletter basically confirms the Sirius show has been postponed as well:

Our Omaze experience is still happening!

Pearl Jam’s tour has been postponed, but the band will still be flying a lucky winner out to NYC for two incredible shows (plus breakfast with Stone and Mike) once tour dates are rescheduled.

Do you want to be that lucky winner?

Use promo code PEARLJAM50 to score 50 extra entries.

Best of all, every donation will support nonprofits close to the band’s heart through the Vitalogy Foundation.

Thanks for your patience and good luck.

JimmyV · March 2020

on2legs said:

I like when people just realize after almost 30 years that Pearl Jam has a political opinion.

Yep. It isn't the band that has changed in that regard. It is segments of the fanbase.

IlliniGuy76 · March 2020

JP218404 said:

JimmyV said:

JP218404 said:

JimmyV said:

JP218404 said:

Saltzy23 said:

DewieCox said:

Tim Simmons said:

So there is no absolute truth anymore then, huh? Trust no one because theres nothing left to trust.

I guess this is the real damage done by Trump over the past few years.

Is there? Have you heard it? It’s nearly impossible to dig through the spin.

Most of that damage has been there long before Trump and will remain long after.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

This fucking guy has spent FOUR GODDAMN YEARS spewing "Fake News" and "the main stream media is the enemy of the public" to his neanderthal group of zombie moron followers and you think he hasn't poured gasoline over everything and made it 100X worse?

Sometimes I honestly need to ask myself if people have been watching the same thing as I have since this clown was elected.

But he is a genius of himself

January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.” NOTE: The CDC advises people displaying symptoms to stay home and self-quarantine unless seeking medical care.
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
Current status: As of noon March 8, 2020, coronavirus is in 30 states plus the District of Columbia. Known U.S. cases exceed 400. The death toll stands at 19.
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”

But why oh why are you big meanies politicizing this? Can you not see what a wonderful job he has done? This is not his fault! Obama and Benghazi and bears, oh my!

sorry but emails man. emails!

HUNTER BIDEN HID THE CURE ON A SECRET SERVER IN HER EMAILS!!!

but it was a Beautiful server.

Wrong - it was the "perfect" server

JP218404 · March 2020

IlliniGuy76 said:

JP218404 said:

JimmyV said:

JP218404 said:

JimmyV said:

JP218404 said:

Saltzy23 said:

DewieCox said:

Tim Simmons said:

So there is no absolute truth anymore then, huh? Trust no one because theres nothing left to trust.

I guess this is the real damage done by Trump over the past few years.

Is there? Have you heard it? It’s nearly impossible to dig through the spin.

Most of that damage has been there long before Trump and will remain long after.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

This fucking guy has spent FOUR GODDAMN YEARS spewing "Fake News" and "the main stream media is the enemy of the public" to his neanderthal group of zombie moron followers and you think he hasn't poured gasoline over everything and made it 100X worse?

Sometimes I honestly need to ask myself if people have been watching the same thing as I have since this clown was elected.

But he is a genius of himself

January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.” NOTE: The CDC advises people displaying symptoms to stay home and self-quarantine unless seeking medical care.
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
Current status: As of noon March 8, 2020, coronavirus is in 30 states plus the District of Columbia. Known U.S. cases exceed 400. The death toll stands at 19.
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”

But why oh why are you big meanies politicizing this? Can you not see what a wonderful job he has done? This is not his fault! Obama and Benghazi and bears, oh my!

sorry but emails man. emails!

HUNTER BIDEN HID THE CURE ON A SECRET SERVER IN HER EMAILS!!!

but it was a Beautiful server.

Wrong - it was the "perfect" server

it was perfectly beautiful

Lerxst1992 · March 2020

pjhawks said:

mace1229 said:

pjhawks said:

i'm shocked and dismayed there are still fans of this band who think this band will ever consciously put their own fans in harms away again after what happened at Roskilde. Shocked at the selfishness of some fans here. selfish because they want shows to go on despite the possible effects on others. fact is we don't really know where this virus is taking us. lessening the risk AT THIS TIME is the right move for the greater good. be for the greater good people.

I don’t think anyone is being selfish. Some, myself included, think it’s unnecessary. 500 cases across the country is absolutely nothing. You’re probably more likely to die in a car accident going to the show than be hospitalized for the virus at this point.
Now if this explodes and we get 1000 cases a day, then cancel. But we’re not there yet, so why cancel/postpone for what might happen?

me dying in car accident won't injure or hurt possibly thousands of other people. getting on a plane and going to a concert in the next few weeks could cause the virus to spread exponentially just by myself alone. now multiply that by 15-20,000 fans per show.

So what's the plan with NBA NHL MLB NCAA Subways Commuter Rails Buses Snotty Kids in School wiping hands all over place ?

1ThoughtKnown · March 2020

I spent 2 and a half hours on hold with Air Canada this morning. Received credit in our round trip tickets to Denver. Have to use the credit and fly by mid-January 2021.

Have a $900 credit with Southwest Airlines that we have to use by the same date. That will take some creativity as Southwest doesn’t fly to Calgary but maybe a trip to Hawaii in November will happen (drive to Spokane maybe?). Figure something out.

Basically as long as we use those credits we aren’t out any cash. And we still have tickets.. although the jury is still out on keeping all of those. Might refund the Phoenix and San Diego tickets and keep Denver (because they are GA)

JP218404 · March 2020

Anyone say that maybe cause of Mike's crohn's , it not the best for him to be traveling and around a lot of people right now. I mean to me that is reason enough to delay everything right now IMO

Lerxst1992 · March 2020

JBob87 said:

I get being upset. I am. It is going to cost me a good chunk of $ and there is no guarantee I will be able to make the rescheduled dates (plea for a livestream?). It really sucks.

But dismissing this as “only 500 cases NBD” is so disengenuous. There are 500-1000 cases right now that we know of but probably many more due to lack of testing. Further, a week ago there were 100. It’s not hard to project some really big numbers in 2-4 weeks time unless active steps are taken to slow the spread which is exactly what this move does.

A concert is a tiny tiny part of the risk we all face. That seems why they pointed to leadership not leading. But I'm not sure whether any country's leadership has canceled thousands of sporting events, circuses, plays, operas, concerts, not to mention jam packed commuter public transportation and schools.

A get PJ has a soft spot with tragedy and are very careful but I'm challenged to feel any safer by this postponement.

IlliniGuy76 · March 2020

JP218404 said:

Anyone say that maybe cause of Mike's crohn's , it not the best for him to be traveling and around a lot of people right now. I mean to me that is reason enough to delay everything right now IMO

I'm pretty sure the concern is the hundreds of thousands of people they'd be playing to in the midst of a world-wide epidemic.......

JP218404 · March 2020

IlliniGuy76 said:

JP218404 said:

Anyone say that maybe cause of Mike's crohn's , it not the best for him to be traveling and around a lot of people right now. I mean to me that is reason enough to delay everything right now IMO

I'm pretty sure the concern is the hundreds of thousands of people they'd be playing to in the midst of a world-wide epidemic.......

well of course but a band member is also high risk

on2legs · March 2020

Lerxst1992 said:

pjhawks said:

mace1229 said:

pjhawks said:

i'm shocked and dismayed there are still fans of this band who think this band will ever consciously put their own fans in harms away again after what happened at Roskilde. Shocked at the selfishness of some fans here. selfish because they want shows to go on despite the possible effects on others. fact is we don't really know where this virus is taking us. lessening the risk AT THIS TIME is the right move for the greater good. be for the greater good people.

I don’t think anyone is being selfish. Some, myself included, think it’s unnecessary. 500 cases across the country is absolutely nothing. You’re probably more likely to die in a car accident going to the show than be hospitalized for the virus at this point.
Now if this explodes and we get 1000 cases a day, then cancel. But we’re not there yet, so why cancel/postpone for what might happen?

me dying in car accident won't injure or hurt possibly thousands of other people. getting on a plane and going to a concert in the next few weeks could cause the virus to spread exponentially just by myself alone. now multiply that by 15-20,000 fans per show.

So what's the plan with NBA NHL MLB NCAA Subways Commuter Rails Buses Snotty Kids in School wiping hands all over place ?

I think it’s only a matter of time before most schools and all sports leagues take a minimum two week hiatus.

RS65573 · March 2020

on2legs said:

Lerxst1992 said:

pjhawks said:

mace1229 said:

pjhawks said:

i'm shocked and dismayed there are still fans of this band who think this band will ever consciously put their own fans in harms away again after what happened at Roskilde. Shocked at the selfishness of some fans here. selfish because they want shows to go on despite the possible effects on others. fact is we don't really know where this virus is taking us. lessening the risk AT THIS TIME is the right move for the greater good. be for the greater good people.

I don’t think anyone is being selfish. Some, myself included, think it’s unnecessary. 500 cases across the country is absolutely nothing. You’re probably more likely to die in a car accident going to the show than be hospitalized for the virus at this point.
Now if this explodes and we get 1000 cases a day, then cancel. But we’re not there yet, so why cancel/postpone for what might happen?

me dying in car accident won't injure or hurt possibly thousands of other people. getting on a plane and going to a concert in the next few weeks could cause the virus to spread exponentially just by myself alone. now multiply that by 15-20,000 fans per show.

So what's the plan with NBA NHL MLB NCAA Subways Commuter Rails Buses Snotty Kids in School wiping hands all over place ?

I think it’s only a matter of time before most schools and all sports leagues take a minimum two week hiatus.

Agreed.

RS65573 · March 2020

Or in the case of sports, I think they will play to empty arenas. Most fans (and money) come from TV views anyway.

mace1229 · March 2020

Many schools will be on spring break in a week or 2. Looks like good timing. I also think a lot will use that week to disinfect and deep clean while they are closed and probably send out autocallers/letters to parents asking to keep kids home if they show any signs of illness..

tdawe · March 2020

RS65573 said:

Or in the case of sports, I think they will play to empty arenas. Most fans (and money) come from TV views anyway.

Let's all just be thankful that that's not the option that Pearl Jam chose.

Tim Simmons · March 2020

Lerxst1992 said:

pjhawks said:

mace1229 said:

pjhawks said:

i'm shocked and dismayed there are still fans of this band who think this band will ever consciously put their own fans in harms away again after what happened at Roskilde. Shocked at the selfishness of some fans here. selfish because they want shows to go on despite the possible effects on others. fact is we don't really know where this virus is taking us. lessening the risk AT THIS TIME is the right move for the greater good. be for the greater good people.

I don’t think anyone is being selfish. Some, myself included, think it’s unnecessary. 500 cases across the country is absolutely nothing. You’re probably more likely to die in a car accident going to the show than be hospitalized for the virus at this point.
Now if this explodes and we get 1000 cases a day, then cancel. But we’re not there yet, so why cancel/postpone for what might happen?

me dying in car accident won't injure or hurt possibly thousands of other people. getting on a plane and going to a concert in the next few weeks could cause the virus to spread exponentially just by myself alone. now multiply that by 15-20,000 fans per show.

So what's the plan with NBA NHL MLB NCAA Subways Commuter Rails Buses Snotty Kids in School wiping hands all over place ?

Don’t know because this admin can’t lead. Which was the point to Ed comment.

RS65573 · March 2020

tdawe said:

RS65573 said:

Or in the case of sports, I think they will play to empty arenas. Most fans (and money) come from TV views anyway.

Let's all just be thankful that that's not the option that Pearl Jam chose.

We'd all watch it.

Spring NA Tour Officially Postponed

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