Spring NA Tour Officially Postponed

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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,733
    JBob87 said:
    I get being upset. I am. It is going to cost me a good chunk of $ and there is no guarantee I will be able to make the rescheduled dates (plea for a livestream?). It really sucks. 

    But dismissing this as “only 500 cases NBD” is so disengenuous. There are 500-1000 cases right now that we know of but probably many more due to lack of testing. Further, a week ago there were 100. It’s not hard to project some really big numbers in 2-4 weeks time unless active steps are taken to slow the spread which is exactly what this move does.

    A concert is a tiny tiny part of the risk we all face. That seems why they pointed to leadership not leading. But I'm not sure whether any country's leadership has canceled thousands of sporting events, circuses,  plays, operas, concerts, not to mention jam packed commuter public transportation and schools. 
     
    I mean, Italy just did this yesterday. 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,268
    RS65573 said:
    Or in the case of sports, I think they will play to empty arenas. Most fans (and money) come from TV views anyway.
    Is that true? I assumed the opposite since some cities blackout local games if they dont sell out, to try and encourage fans to go to the games. Especially for teams with low attendance records. I wouldnt think they would risk doing that is most revenue came from TV.

    I lived in San DIego from 2000-2008. Many Charger games during that time weren't shown on TV because they'd rarely sell out. Not until Tomlinson started breaking records anyway.
  • estarr31estarr31 Posts: 575
    mace1229 said:
    I called frontier and they’re allowing changes and cancellations with no charges for any flights in March. My flights are in April, they told me to call back when they have more info for April. 
    Thanks for sharing. I have full confidence any airline with policies through march will extend through April. But this saved the the time from calling to ask.
    Same goes for Jetblue as we speak. Delta and United are covering April travel dates. Fully expect Jetblue to catch up. 
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  • RP112579RP112579 Posts: 3,381
    JP218404 said:
    Anyone say that maybe cause of Mike's crohn's , it not the best for him to be traveling and around a lot of people right now.  I mean to me that is reason enough to delay everything right now IMO
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  • RS65573RS65573 Posts: 2,465
    mace1229 said:
    RS65573 said:
    Or in the case of sports, I think they will play to empty arenas. Most fans (and money) come from TV views anyway.
    Is that true? I assumed the opposite since some cities blackout local games if they dont sell out, to try and encourage fans to go to the games. Especially for teams with low attendance records. I wouldnt think they would risk doing that is most revenue came from TV.

    I lived in San DIego from 2000-2008. Many Charger games during that time weren't shown on TV because they'd rarely sell out. Not until Tomlinson started breaking records anyway.
    Its true for the big teams in big markets, which is what I watch, fair point.
  • estarr31estarr31 Posts: 575
    mace1229 said:
    RS65573 said:
    Or in the case of sports, I think they will play to empty arenas. Most fans (and money) come from TV views anyway.
    Is that true? I assumed the opposite since some cities blackout local games if they dont sell out, to try and encourage fans to go to the games. Especially for teams with low attendance records. I wouldnt think they would risk doing that is most revenue came from TV.

    I lived in San DIego from 2000-2008. Many Charger games during that time weren't shown on TV because they'd rarely sell out. Not until Tomlinson started breaking records anyway.
    Football only has eight home games. They're trying to protect that investment/revenue. The other major leagues don't blackout if the game isn't sold out, even if they still have local blackouts to protect their regional networks. Most revenue is from the TV deals these days. 
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  • vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 897
    edited March 2020
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
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  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Posts: 3,020
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there is also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    I think they would much rather prefer to be on stage shitting on Trump than trying to prove a point by postponing tours and disappointing their fans.  
  • estarr31estarr31 Posts: 575
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    Haha. no. 
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  • estarr31estarr31 Posts: 575
    estarr31 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I called frontier and they’re allowing changes and cancellations with no charges for any flights in March. My flights are in April, they told me to call back when they have more info for April. 
    Thanks for sharing. I have full confidence any airline with policies through march will extend through April. But this saved the the time from calling to ask.
    Same goes for Jetblue as we speak. Delta and United are covering April travel dates. Fully expect Jetblue to catch up. 
    UPDATE: Jetblue now covering fees for trips through end of April. This is new today. 
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  • tdawetdawe Posts: 2,089
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    Good point I haven't heard of any major concerts/events being cancelled in Austin. Seems like that part of you really knows what it's talking about and isn't in any way losing its goddamned mind.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    That's a bit cynical, and might require the use of a tin foil hat to believe.
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  • vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 897
    edited March 2020
    tdawe said:
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    Good point I haven't heard of any major concerts/events being cancelled in Austin. Seems like that part of you really knows what it's talking about and isn't in any way losing its goddamned mind.
    I'll give you a little bit of credit on that response but SXSW was cancelled primarily because most of the attendees come from outside the US.  Good try though.
  • YAKIMATSUYAKIMATSU Santa Fe Posts: 839
    tdawe said:
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    Good point I haven't heard of any major concerts/events being cancelled in Austin. Seems like that part of you really knows what it's talking about and isn't in any way losing its goddamned mind.
    Seriously funny how out of touch people are right? Really Austin is your example,  wow.

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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    Tin foil? They put it in the announcement. Don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,128
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    You are accusing them of cancelling a tour as part of a conspiracy to hurt Donald Trump? Jesus Fucking Christ you people have lost your minds. You really have. 
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  • tdawetdawe Posts: 2,089
    vedpunk said:
    tdawe said:
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    Good point I haven't heard of any major concerts/events being cancelled in Austin. Seems like that part of you really knows what it's talking about and isn't in any way losing its goddamned mind.
    I'll give you a little bit of credit on that response but SXSW was cancelled primarily because most of the attendees come from outside the US.  Good try though.
    Citation needed. Didn't the local government declare a state of disaster?
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    DewieCox said:
    Tin foil? They put it in the announcement. Don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
    They put what in the announcement? That PJ is trying to take down Trump and they postponed the tour to crater Trump's reelection prospects? Looney Tunes, man.
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  • vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 897
    tdawe said:
    vedpunk said:
    tdawe said:
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    Good point I haven't heard of any major concerts/events being cancelled in Austin. Seems like that part of you really knows what it's talking about and isn't in any way losing its goddamned mind.
    I'll give you a little bit of credit on that response but SXSW was cancelled primarily because most of the attendees come from outside the US.  Good try though.
    Citation needed. Didn't the local government declare a state of disaster?
    ?  Maybe confusing Austin with NYC
  • JP218404JP218404 Posts: 1,407
    edited March 2020
    vedpunk said:
    tdawe said:
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    Good point I haven't heard of any major concerts/events being cancelled in Austin. Seems like that part of you really knows what it's talking about and isn't in any way losing its goddamned mind.
    I'll give you a little bit of credit on that response but SXSW was cancelled primarily because most of the attendees come from outside the US.  Good try though.
    Sxsw did not cancel the event. The city and state did. That why there is an uproar from people that the festival is NOT refunding anyones money. They didn’t do it. Has nothing to do with where people were coming from 
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  • tdawetdawe Posts: 2,089
    vedpunk said:
    tdawe said:
    vedpunk said:
    tdawe said:
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    Good point I haven't heard of any major concerts/events being cancelled in Austin. Seems like that part of you really knows what it's talking about and isn't in any way losing its goddamned mind.
    I'll give you a little bit of credit on that response but SXSW was cancelled primarily because most of the attendees come from outside the US.  Good try though.
    Citation needed. Didn't the local government declare a state of disaster?
    ?  Maybe confusing Austin with NYC
    Part of you should probably spend more time keeping up with the local news and less time on whatever its current news diet is: https://www.fox7austin.com/news/austin-travis-county-prohibiting-events-with-2500-plus-people-until-may-due-to-coronavirus
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  • vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 897
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    You are accusing them of cancelling a tour as part of a conspiracy to hurt Donald Trump? Jesus Fucking Christ you people have lost your minds. You really have. 
    Calm down buddy.  That is not what I said....Chill.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,671
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    You make a good point
    After all anyone with no brain knows that Pearl Jam is part of the liberal leftist socialist media machine trying to bring down the greatest most stable president in the history of stables.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,128
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    You are accusing them of cancelling a tour as part of a conspiracy to hurt Donald Trump? Jesus Fucking Christ you people have lost your minds. You really have. 
    Calm down buddy.  That is not what I said....Chill.
    Bullshit. You absolutely did.

    "But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election."
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  • tdawetdawe Posts: 2,089
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    You are accusing them of cancelling a tour as part of a conspiracy to hurt Donald Trump? Jesus Fucking Christ you people have lost your minds. You really have. 
    Calm down buddy.  That is not what I said....Chill.
    Bullshit. You absolutely did.

    "But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election."
    If I'm reading this right I think the distinction is that Eddie doesn't actually attend the meetings with Soros, Maddow, the NYT editorial staff, et al where they actually conduct the conspiracy. He's just sympathetic to their efforts and willing to support them from the outside.
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  • YAKIMATSUYAKIMATSU Santa Fe Posts: 839
    Coachella postponed .
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  • vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 897
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    You are accusing them of cancelling a tour as part of a conspiracy to hurt Donald Trump? Jesus Fucking Christ you people have lost your minds. You really have. 
    Calm down buddy.  That is not what I said....Chill.
    Bullshit. You absolutely did.

    "But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election."
    Again, I don't think it's the primary reason they cancelled the tour.  We know they look after the fan's safety first and foremost.  
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,671
    edited March 2020
    tdawe said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    You are accusing them of cancelling a tour as part of a conspiracy to hurt Donald Trump? Jesus Fucking Christ you people have lost your minds. You really have. 
    Calm down buddy.  That is not what I said....Chill.
    Bullshit. You absolutely did.

    "But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election."
    If I'm reading this right I think the distinction is that Eddie doesn't actually attend the meetings with Soros, Maddow, the NYT editorial staff, et al where they actually conduct the conspiracy. He's just sympathetic to their efforts and willing to support them from the outside.
    He Skypes in to the meetings 
    As do the Rothschilds, the Clinton's, and the Obamas
  • Eroom21Eroom21 Posts: 109
    Zika, Swine Flu, Ebola, Sars.
    How much worse is Coronavirus? I don't know. I do believe that we have to be smart and careful, but we all know social media helps spread fear and paranoia, and scary events are good for the news cycle because it keeps people's attention.  Personally I feel like it was a little early to cancel the entire tour, especially the Canadian shows.  Pearl Jam even played in Toronto during the summer of Sars, 2003.

  • vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 897
    edited March 2020
    JP218404 said:
    vedpunk said:
    tdawe said:
    vedpunk said:
    I get why they did it from a health prospective and their long history of taking care of their fans.  But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election. Meanwhile, every other major act is hitting my market (Austin) almost every day this month.  Bottom line, the whole thing just blows.
    Good point I haven't heard of any major concerts/events being cancelled in Austin. Seems like that part of you really knows what it's talking about and isn't in any way losing its goddamned mind.
    I'll give you a little bit of credit on that response but SXSW was cancelled primarily because most of the attendees come from outside the US.  Good try though.
    Sxsw did not cancel the event. The city and state did. That why there is an uproar from people that the festival is NOT refunding anyones money. They didn’t do it. Has nothing to do with where people were coming from 
    You are correct that the city did it.....to prevent a situation where over 50% of the attendees were flying in from other parts of the world, that they couldn't control, which would have created an unsafe environment for everyone.
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