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Trump got 63 million votes in 2016. Romney got 63 million votes in 2012. You either exist in the most insulated of echo chambers or you have friends and family who are Trump supporters.___________________________________________
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Spiritual_Chaos said:blackhawks said:pjhawks said:i respect republicans and conservative views BUT i lose respect for anything that supports the current POTUS. I have a very hard time not losing respect for anyone who gives even an ounce support to such a terrible human being and leader. Sorry your conservative views are not more important to the world in general.
that being said i tolerate Ed's rants even if i agree with them. I'd prefer he not do it during a show but it's his platform not mine.
But....I don't like being preached to be it PJ, Kid Rock, Uncle Ted, Bono...... I would like to have a few hours away from partisan BS and just enjoy being a fan of a band. Apparently it is hard for some of these bands to understand that most/many are looking for some escape.Post edited by blackhawks on91 - Ames Iowa CY Stephens Auditorium
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mattsavard said:ecdanc said:PB11041 said:
Are you suggesting that Libertarians favor closed borders, harsh and overreaching prison sentences for meaningless victim-less crimes?
Please provide a list of "Right" wing candidates in the US who support reproductive rights, open borders, decriminalization of drugs and prostitution.
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blackhawks said:mattsavard said:ecdanc said:PB11041 said:
Are you suggesting that Libertarians favor closed borders, harsh and overreaching prison sentences for meaningless victim-less crimes?
Please provide a list of "Right" wing candidates in the US who support reproductive rights, open borders, decriminalization of drugs and prostitution.
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kotton_crown said:blackhawks said:mattsavard said:ecdanc said:PB11041 said:
Are you suggesting that Libertarians favor closed borders, harsh and overreaching prison sentences for meaningless victim-less crimes?
Please provide a list of "Right" wing candidates in the US who support reproductive rights, open borders, decriminalization of drugs and prostitution.
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Liberalism identifies with who they are. It's in their music in the early years and later years.
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I went to both Boston shows in 2018. i spotted a concert goer making his way to his seat and he was wearing a MAGA hat. i was surprised and i guess my face showed it cause our eyes locked. being a hispanic female I looked away cause I didn't want any problems. you know everyone is drinking, etc. but i guess i was surprised cause I didn't know PJ had so many republican fans being that they are so political. I guess the music is just so good it doesn't matter to some what PJ's political beliefs are. here's hoping we all just have a good time at the shows this year with a common interest and love of pearl jam38 concerts and counting
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MR242791 said:I went to both Boston shows in 2018. i spotted a concert goer making his way to his seat and he was wearing a MAGA hat. i was surprised and i guess my face showed it cause our eyes locked. being a hispanic female I looked away cause I didn't want any problems. you know everyone is drinking, etc. but i guess i was surprised cause I didn't know PJ had so many republican fans being that they are so political. I guess the music is just so good it doesn't matter to some what PJ's political beliefs are. here's hoping we all just have a good time at the shows this year with a common interest and love of pearl jam0
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MR242791 said:I went to both Boston shows in 2018. i spotted a concert goer making his way to his seat and he was wearing a MAGA hat. i was surprised and i guess my face showed it cause our eyes locked. being a hispanic female I looked away cause I didn't want any problems. you know everyone is drinking, etc. but i guess i was surprised cause I didn't know PJ had so many republican fans being that they are so political. I guess the music is just so good it doesn't matter to some what PJ's political beliefs are. here's hoping we all just have a good time at the shows this year with a common interest and love of pearl jam"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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ecdanc said:Veddernarian said:Ellen Degeneres was hanging out with George Bush. Both political opposites but respectful and friendly with each other. I can totally have friends who believe opposite of me. Keep the friendships, no problem. I'm not 100% politically in-line with the band. I respect their beliefs. I prefer the music over the political messaging. I like their music, even songs with political messages I don't agree with. I can disconnect that. I don't think actors and musicians are experts on world affairs, nor am I. When I want to get informed, I like to turn to experts on both side of an argument and form my own conclusion. When I go to a movie or a concert, I'm escaping for 2-3 hours. So I rather not have my nose rubbed in it.
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kotton_crown said:blackhawks said:mattsavard said:ecdanc said:PB11041 said:
Are you suggesting that Libertarians favor closed borders, harsh and overreaching prison sentences for meaningless victim-less crimes?
Please provide a list of "Right" wing candidates in the US who support reproductive rights, open borders, decriminalization of drugs and prostitution.
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Just no more 4 eyed animals on the merch and I’m good with whatever he wants to sayI'm like an opening band for your mom.0
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If you spend money, time, energy going to see, or listening to a performer you are supporting them and their views.
I for one will never spend a dime to see or hear ted nugent, kid rock, rosanne, or any other "artist" who has shown support for the current regime.
The Buddhists will tell you that when you support evil that makes you evil as well.
When you support a racist in any way, shape, or form, including voting, that makes you a racist as well.0 -
I think both parties have adopted specific ideals for the sole purpose of maintaining division. A country that is united doesn't need to rely on its government, and sadly it is apparent that our government prefers it this way. Until they show signs of coming together for the greater good, I can't support either. They continue to spew BS down willing supporters throats and the only thing that changes is their bank accounts...public servants or untouchable elites? Out of curiosity for the Democrats in here, who do you think PJ would even get behind in this upcoming election? From an unbiased perspective, I see a party that has wasted the last 3 1/2 years running a failed smear campaign instead of using that time to produce a couple of sure candidates. The DNC doesn't even want Bernie and he is leading the way right now, I would seriously be questioning my support if this is how they spent their time and our money.
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Spiritual_Chaos said:MR242791 said:I went to both Boston shows in 2018. i spotted a concert goer making his way to his seat and he was wearing a MAGA hat. i was surprised and i guess my face showed it cause our eyes locked. being a hispanic female I looked away cause I didn't want any problems. you know everyone is drinking, etc. but i guess i was surprised cause I didn't know PJ had so many republican fans being that they are so political. I guess the music is just so good it doesn't matter to some what PJ's political beliefs are. here's hoping we all just have a good time at the shows this year with a common interest and love of pearl jam
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Wouldn't shed a tear if confederate flags were banned everywhere. Good for Fenway.___________________________________________
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MR242791 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:MR242791 said:I went to both Boston shows in 2018. i spotted a concert goer making his way to his seat and he was wearing a MAGA hat. i was surprised and i guess my face showed it cause our eyes locked. being a hispanic female I looked away cause I didn't want any problems. you know everyone is drinking, etc. but i guess i was surprised cause I didn't know PJ had so many republican fans being that they are so political. I guess the music is just so good it doesn't matter to some what PJ's political beliefs are. here's hoping we all just have a good time at the shows this year with a common interest and love of pearl jamPost edited by RobZ on2006: Las Vegas, Nevada
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JimmyV said:Trump got 63 million votes in 2016. Romney got 63 million votes in 2012. You either exist in the most insulated of echo chambers or you have friends and family who are Trump supporters.
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