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ecdanc said:Veddernarian said:Ellen Degeneres was hanging out with George Bush. Both political opposites but respectful and friendly with each other. I can totally have friends who believe opposite of me. Keep the friendships, no problem. I'm not 100% politically in-line with the band. I respect their beliefs. I prefer the music over the political messaging. I like their music, even songs with political messages I don't agree with. I can disconnect that. I don't think actors and musicians are experts on world affairs, nor am I. When I want to get informed, I like to turn to experts on both side of an argument and form my own conclusion. When I go to a movie or a concert, I'm escaping for 2-3 hours. So I rather not have my nose rubbed in it.0
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ecdanc said:PB11041 said:ecdanc said:mattsavard said:Libertarian here (Fiscal conservative, socially liberal) who generally thinks BOTH the far left and right are mental. Both tend to be closed minded, use hyperbole and straw men to attack "the other team", and the rest of the country has to suffer as a result.
Ed and most other celebrities aren't forced to live in the real world, and thus preach in a manner disconnected with reality, all while living a life protected by armed security (while preaching against guns), and flying in private jets and riding in gas guzzling busses (while preaching about global warming).
They're hypocrites, but I don't let it impact my enjoyment of the music. I choose to walk away from any preachy fans, and at most shows Ed's ranting is kept pretty low-key. If Ed does get on a roll, it's always a nice time to tune him out, and go grab a beer and piss break.
IMO everyone should be able to do whatever they want as long as it's not hurting someone else (including speaking their mind), and government interference (fiscally & legislatively) should be kept to a bare minimum. Those who think healthcare and college education should be provided for those who can't afford it, nobody's stopping you from voluntarily setting aside a chunk of your salary to help make that happen. No need for a federal mandate.
Are you suggesting that Libertarians favor closed borders, harsh and overreaching prison sentences for meaningless victim-less crimes?His eminence has yet to show.
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mattsavard said:ecdanc said:mattsavard said:Libertarian here (Fiscal conservative, socially liberal) who generally thinks BOTH the far left and right are mental. Both tend to be closed minded, use hyperbole and straw men to attack "the other team", and the rest of the country has to suffer as a result.
You might want to brush up on what libertarians stand for.... many social policies of the right (immigration, abortion, Decriminalizing drugs and prostitution, etc) are way out of sync with the far right.0 -
PB11041 said:ecdanc said:PB11041 said:ecdanc said:mattsavard said:Libertarian here (Fiscal conservative, socially liberal) who generally thinks BOTH the far left and right are mental. Both tend to be closed minded, use hyperbole and straw men to attack "the other team", and the rest of the country has to suffer as a result.
Ed and most other celebrities aren't forced to live in the real world, and thus preach in a manner disconnected with reality, all while living a life protected by armed security (while preaching against guns), and flying in private jets and riding in gas guzzling busses (while preaching about global warming).
They're hypocrites, but I don't let it impact my enjoyment of the music. I choose to walk away from any preachy fans, and at most shows Ed's ranting is kept pretty low-key. If Ed does get on a roll, it's always a nice time to tune him out, and go grab a beer and piss break.
IMO everyone should be able to do whatever they want as long as it's not hurting someone else (including speaking their mind), and government interference (fiscally & legislatively) should be kept to a bare minimum. Those who think healthcare and college education should be provided for those who can't afford it, nobody's stopping you from voluntarily setting aside a chunk of your salary to help make that happen. No need for a federal mandate.
Are you suggesting that Libertarians favor closed borders, harsh and overreaching prison sentences for meaningless victim-less crimes?0 -
Registered Independent, currently more likely to vote Republican than Democrat. Being on the slightly right side of moderate.. I can say I dont agree with all of their messages but... that's freedom of speech and I love hearing new angles to things that maybe I dont agree with and can learn or adapt my views. I'm probably the definition of the targeted audience where my vote changes every election cycle.
Disclosure: Eddie could tell a story about taking a shit and I would cheer.
Moral of the story: people can share whatever they want.0 -
nicknyr15 said:ecdanc said:Veddernarian said:Ellen Degeneres was hanging out with George Bush. Both political opposites but respectful and friendly with each other. I can totally have friends who believe opposite of me. Keep the friendships, no problem. I'm not 100% politically in-line with the band. I respect their beliefs. I prefer the music over the political messaging. I like their music, even songs with political messages I don't agree with. I can disconnect that. I don't think actors and musicians are experts on world affairs, nor am I. When I want to get informed, I like to turn to experts on both side of an argument and form my own conclusion. When I go to a movie or a concert, I'm escaping for 2-3 hours. So I rather not have my nose rubbed in it.0
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ecdanc said:nicknyr15 said:ecdanc said:Veddernarian said:Ellen Degeneres was hanging out with George Bush. Both political opposites but respectful and friendly with each other. I can totally have friends who believe opposite of me. Keep the friendships, no problem. I'm not 100% politically in-line with the band. I respect their beliefs. I prefer the music over the political messaging. I like their music, even songs with political messages I don't agree with. I can disconnect that. I don't think actors and musicians are experts on world affairs, nor am I. When I want to get informed, I like to turn to experts on both side of an argument and form my own conclusion. When I go to a movie or a concert, I'm escaping for 2-3 hours. So I rather not have my nose rubbed in it.Post edited by Kat on0
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ecdanc said:nicknyr15 said:ecdanc said:Veddernarian said:Ellen Degeneres was hanging out with George Bush. Both political opposites but respectful and friendly with each other. I can totally have friends who believe opposite of me. Keep the friendships, no problem. I'm not 100% politically in-line with the band. I respect their beliefs. I prefer the music over the political messaging. I like their music, even songs with political messages I don't agree with. I can disconnect that. I don't think actors and musicians are experts on world affairs, nor am I. When I want to get informed, I like to turn to experts on both side of an argument and form my own conclusion. When I go to a movie or a concert, I'm escaping for 2-3 hours. So I rather not have my nose rubbed in it.0
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nicknyr15 said:ecdanc said:nicknyr15 said:ecdanc said:Veddernarian said:Ellen Degeneres was hanging out with George Bush. Both political opposites but respectful and friendly with each other. I can totally have friends who believe opposite of me. Keep the friendships, no problem. I'm not 100% politically in-line with the band. I respect their beliefs. I prefer the music over the political messaging. I like their music, even songs with political messages I don't agree with. I can disconnect that. I don't think actors and musicians are experts on world affairs, nor am I. When I want to get informed, I like to turn to experts on both side of an argument and form my own conclusion. When I go to a movie or a concert, I'm escaping for 2-3 hours. So I rather not have my nose rubbed in it.Post edited by Kat on0
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ecdanc said:mattsavard said:ecdanc said:mattsavard said:Libertarian here (Fiscal conservative, socially liberal) who generally thinks BOTH the far left and right are mental. Both tend to be closed minded, use hyperbole and straw men to attack "the other team", and the rest of the country has to suffer as a result.
You might want to brush up on what libertarians stand for.... many social policies of the right (immigration, abortion, Decriminalizing drugs and prostitution, etc) are way out of sync with the far right.0 -
ecdanc said:nicknyr15 said:ecdanc said:nicknyr15 said:ecdanc said:Veddernarian said:Ellen Degeneres was hanging out with George Bush. Both political opposites but respectful and friendly with each other. I can totally have friends who believe opposite of me. Keep the friendships, no problem. I'm not 100% politically in-line with the band. I respect their beliefs. I prefer the music over the political messaging. I like their music, even songs with political messages I don't agree with. I can disconnect that. I don't think actors and musicians are experts on world affairs, nor am I. When I want to get informed, I like to turn to experts on both side of an argument and form my own conclusion. When I go to a movie or a concert, I'm escaping for 2-3 hours. So I rather not have my nose rubbed in it.Post edited by Kat on0
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ecdanc said:riley540 said:I’ve taken a hand full of the online political tests and I usually pop out as libertarian. I don’t really care what everyone does. And I like to be in control of my finances.Obviously everyone has opinions. I’m in “film school” and it’s extremely liberal. Never had bothered me at all. Some of my best friends are far left. A few of my best friends are trump mega fans. I just don’t care to much0
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Ok we can move it now0
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nicknyr15 said:ecdanc said:nicknyr15 said:ecdanc said:nicknyr15 said:ecdanc said:Veddernarian said:Ellen Degeneres was hanging out with George Bush. Both political opposites but respectful and friendly with each other. I can totally have friends who believe opposite of me. Keep the friendships, no problem. I'm not 100% politically in-line with the band. I respect their beliefs. I prefer the music over the political messaging. I like their music, even songs with political messages I don't agree with. I can disconnect that. I don't think actors and musicians are experts on world affairs, nor am I. When I want to get informed, I like to turn to experts on both side of an argument and form my own conclusion. When I go to a movie or a concert, I'm escaping for 2-3 hours. So I rather not have my nose rubbed in it.
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jimjam1982 said:
Disclosure: Eddie could tell a story about taking a shit and I would cheer.
Moral of the story: people can share whatever they want.people cheered.0 -
kotton_crown said:ecdanc said:mattsavard said:ecdanc said:mattsavard said:Libertarian here (Fiscal conservative, socially liberal) who generally thinks BOTH the far left and right are mental. Both tend to be closed minded, use hyperbole and straw men to attack "the other team", and the rest of the country has to suffer as a result.
You might want to brush up on what libertarians stand for.... many social policies of the right (immigration, abortion, Decriminalizing drugs and prostitution, etc) are way out of sync with the far right.
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pjl44 said:ecdanc said:nicknyr15 said:ecdanc said:Veddernarian said:Ellen Degeneres was hanging out with George Bush. Both political opposites but respectful and friendly with each other. I can totally have friends who believe opposite of me. Keep the friendships, no problem. I'm not 100% politically in-line with the band. I respect their beliefs. I prefer the music over the political messaging. I like their music, even songs with political messages I don't agree with. I can disconnect that. I don't think actors and musicians are experts on world affairs, nor am I. When I want to get informed, I like to turn to experts on both side of an argument and form my own conclusion. When I go to a movie or a concert, I'm escaping for 2-3 hours. So I rather not have my nose rubbed in it.0
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ecdanc said:PB11041 said:ecdanc said:PB11041 said:ecdanc said:mattsavard said:Libertarian here (Fiscal conservative, socially liberal) who generally thinks BOTH the far left and right are mental. Both tend to be closed minded, use hyperbole and straw men to attack "the other team", and the rest of the country has to suffer as a result.
Ed and most other celebrities aren't forced to live in the real world, and thus preach in a manner disconnected with reality, all while living a life protected by armed security (while preaching against guns), and flying in private jets and riding in gas guzzling busses (while preaching about global warming).
They're hypocrites, but I don't let it impact my enjoyment of the music. I choose to walk away from any preachy fans, and at most shows Ed's ranting is kept pretty low-key. If Ed does get on a roll, it's always a nice time to tune him out, and go grab a beer and piss break.
IMO everyone should be able to do whatever they want as long as it's not hurting someone else (including speaking their mind), and government interference (fiscally & legislatively) should be kept to a bare minimum. Those who think healthcare and college education should be provided for those who can't afford it, nobody's stopping you from voluntarily setting aside a chunk of your salary to help make that happen. No need for a federal mandate.
Are you suggesting that Libertarians favor closed borders, harsh and overreaching prison sentences for meaningless victim-less crimes?His eminence has yet to show.
http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=36520 -
riley540 said:ecdanc said:riley540 said:I’ve taken a hand full of the online political tests and I usually pop out as libertarian. I don’t really care what everyone does. And I like to be in control of my finances.Obviously everyone has opinions. I’m in “film school” and it’s extremely liberal. Never had bothered me at all. Some of my best friends are far left. A few of my best friends are trump mega fans. I just don’t care to much0
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Veddernarian said:Ellen Degeneres was hanging out with George Bush. Both political opposites but respectful and friendly with each other.
I try to have some standards in my life.
Also, stating ones opinions or worldview in a song =/= stating to be an expert.
I have problems "looking the other way" or tuning out. That's why I don't listen to KISS - Take it off. No matter how good that riff is. because the lyrics are seeping iiiiiiiinnnnnPost edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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