There is absolutely no reason to cancel the Canadian part of this tour as it stands right now. I think they need to unfortunately wait till the last minute to make this decision since so much can change.
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There is absolutely no reason to cancel the Canadian part of this tour as it stands right now. I think they need to unfortunately wait till the last minute to make this decision since so much can change.
Just because they can wait, doesn’t mean they should. People still have money they can recover from travel costs. They really need to decide soon.
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Do we expect an announcement in either direction? No news obviously means the shows are on, but do we think they’ll announce something confirming that?
There is absolutely no reason to cancel the Canadian part of this tour as it stands right now. I think they need to unfortunately wait till the last minute to make this decision since so much can change.
Just because they can wait, doesn’t mean they should. People still have money they can recover from travel costs. They really need to decide soon.
There is no reason to cancel the tour right now though as things stand. Why would anyone want them to make that decision now since the only decision they can make concrete is a cancelation. Its not like they can say we are going on no matter what right now.
Also whether they cancel the day before the show or now I get the same amount of money back.
There is absolutely no reason to cancel the Canadian part of this tour as it stands right now. I think they need to unfortunately wait till the last minute to make this decision since so much can change.
Just because they can wait, doesn’t mean they should. People still have money they can recover from travel costs. They really need to decide soon.
There is no reason to cancel the tour right now though as things stand. Why would anyone want them to make that decision now since the only decision they can make concrete is a cancelation. Its not like they can say we are going on no matter what right now.
Also whether they cancel the day before the show or now I get the same amount of money back.
Because instead of wasting anyones time later on, they can be proactive instead of reactive. I don’t want it to happen, but if they are even considering it just reschedule now and offer up a plan.
Other people, such as myself, can still save money... Glad you are covered though.
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There is absolutely no reason to cancel the Canadian part of this tour as it stands right now. I think they need to unfortunately wait till the last minute to make this decision since so much can change.
Just because they can wait, doesn’t mean they should. People still have money they can recover from travel costs. They really need to decide soon.
There is no reason to cancel the tour right now though as things stand. Why would anyone want them to make that decision now since the only decision they can make concrete is a cancelation. Its not like they can say we are going on no matter what right now.
Also whether they cancel the day before the show or now I get the same amount of money back.
Because instead of wasting anyones time later on, they can be proactive instead of reactive. I don’t want it to happen, but if they are even considering it just reschedule now and offer up a plan.
Other people, such as myself, can still save money... Glad you are covered though.
I am not covered besides a couple of free cancelations for hotels. I am all in at this point as are a lot of others for this tour. I would hope they would give it their best shot at making this tour happen and not cancel 2 weeks out on a hunch.
There is absolutely no reason to cancel the Canadian part of this tour as it stands right now. I think they need to unfortunately wait till the last minute to make this decision since so much can change.
Just because they can wait, doesn’t mean they should. People still have money they can recover from travel costs. They really need to decide soon.
There is no reason to cancel the tour right now though as things stand. Why would anyone want them to make that decision now since the only decision they can make concrete is a cancelation. Its not like they can say we are going on no matter what right now.
Also whether they cancel the day before the show or now I get the same amount of money back.
Because instead of wasting anyones time later on, they can be proactive instead of reactive. I don’t want it to happen, but if they are even considering it just reschedule now and offer up a plan.
Other people, such as myself, can still save money... Glad you are covered though.
I am not covered besides a couple of free cancelations for hotels. I am all in at this point as are a lot of others for this tour. I would hope they would give it their best shot at making this tour happen and not cancel 2 weeks out on a hunch.
I think we can both agree the day before (as they have done before), is never the best choice.
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There is absolutely no reason to cancel the Canadian part of this tour as it stands right now. I think they need to unfortunately wait till the last minute to make this decision since so much can change.
Just because they can wait, doesn’t mean they should. People still have money they can recover from travel costs. They really need to decide soon.
There is no reason to cancel the tour right now though as things stand. Why would anyone want them to make that decision now since the only decision they can make concrete is a cancelation. Its not like they can say we are going on no matter what right now.
Also whether they cancel the day before the show or now I get the same amount of money back.
Because instead of wasting anyones time later on, they can be proactive instead of reactive. I don’t want it to happen, but if they are even considering it just reschedule now and offer up a plan.
Other people, such as myself, can still save money... Glad you are covered though.
I am not covered besides a couple of free cancelations for hotels. I am all in at this point as are a lot of others for this tour. I would hope they would give it their best shot at making this tour happen and not cancel 2 weeks out on a hunch.
I think we can both agree the day before (as they have done before), is never the best choice.
For sure but if they cancelled today and this does not get any worse then it has (I think it will) then there are going to be a lot of pissed off fans as well. Damned if you do and damned if you don't I guess. What show/shows you hitting? Hope they are a go man!
There is absolutely no reason to cancel the Canadian part of this tour as it stands right now. I think they need to unfortunately wait till the last minute to make this decision since so much can change.
Just because they can wait, doesn’t mean they should. People still have money they can recover from travel costs. They really need to decide soon.
There is no reason to cancel the tour right now though as things stand. Why would anyone want them to make that decision now since the only decision they can make concrete is a cancelation. Its not like they can say we are going on no matter what right now.
Also whether they cancel the day before the show or now I get the same amount of money back.
Because instead of wasting anyones time later on, they can be proactive instead of reactive. I don’t want it to happen, but if they are even considering it just reschedule now and offer up a plan.
Other people, such as myself, can still save money... Glad you are covered though.
I am not covered besides a couple of free cancelations for hotels. I am all in at this point as are a lot of others for this tour. I would hope they would give it their best shot at making this tour happen and not cancel 2 weeks out on a hunch.
I think we can both agree the day before (as they have done before), is never the best choice.
For sure but if they cancelled today and this does not get any worse then it has (I think it will) then there are going to be a lot of pissed off fans as well. Damned if you do and damned if you don't I guess. What show/shows you hitting? Hope they are a go man!
Just Nashville. I can’t wait. Same to you!
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My son works in an industry involved with some large hotels here in the Dallas area. Lots of conventions/groups have cancelled in the last couple of days.
Edit: I know of course there are no spring dates here, just thinking there is a trend of large groups cancelling all over with or without cases reported yet in the city.
I think the thing with these large events and conventions as of right now is they have a lot of international travellers making the trip. At least thats what I am hoping is the reason for the cancelations.
I think 72 hours notice is reasonable if they want to give it as long as possible to decide but still let people salvage some costs.
I don’t have a strong feeling either way as to what they will decide.
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EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I think the thing with these large events and conventions as of right now is they have a lot of international travellers making the trip. At least thats what I am hoping is the reason for the cancelations.
Wouldn’t that also be the likely case at a Pearl Jam show?
I think the thing with these large events and conventions as of right now is they have a lot of international travellers making the trip. At least thats what I am hoping is the reason for the cancelations.
Wouldn’t that also be the likely case at a Pearl Jam show?
I did not mean all international travellers. What % of fans would you bet are coming from Asia and the Middle East to see Pearl Jam? I bet not many.
I think the thing with these large events and conventions as of right now is they have a lot of international travellers making the trip. At least thats what I am hoping is the reason for the cancelations.
Wouldn’t that also be the likely case at a Pearl Jam show?
I did not mean all international travellers. What % of fans would you bet are coming from Asia and the Middle East to see Pearl Jam? I bet not many.
I’d venture to say a fair number from Europe. I’m not saying shows are getting cancelled. I just think there are some parallels between a concert for a band with a traveling fan base and these conventions.
It’s an all or none deal right? If there are any “no notice” cancels, it should only affect Toronto.
Maybe/probably? I could see them making a decision about the 4 Canadian shows and waiting a bit longer on the US.
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EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I think we should be paying attention to the NBA, NHL and NCAA. These are held in the same arenas PJ would be playing, with roughly the same attendance. If talks of these cancelling start ramping up that would be a good indicator as to whether or not the band moves on this. Trade shows bring in way more international attendees than any PJ show would, and they are typically multiple day events.
I wonder if they will hold off scheduling the second leg of the US tour. Thinking they may need to postpone and reschedule the Euro dates and maybe some of the US dates
If Raleigh 2016 was any indication of how much notice you get, then I'd plan for the absolute last minute.
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As long as it's a rescheduling type of situation and not full on cancellation, I'm fine with it. If they want to be cautious about it, I won't fault them for it. Logistically, it would probably be a nightmare, but I do wonder if they just scrap the potential fall tour and move all the spring dates to then?
NAL but I work with hotel/convention contracts. If the WHO declares it a global pandemic, I believe that would allow the Force Majeur clause that is standard in our contracts to allow such events to cancel with out penalty to THEM. If those are standard with the air travel and venues for the band as well, it would likely mean they could cancel at any time prior to the shows without incurring financial damages to themselves or their insurers. The flip side of that is that there is nothing that would aide in the business impacted recouping their monetary loses. Like everyone else, I've never bothered to read the user agreements when booking a flight but I would imagine there is some kind of cancellation policy in place for Force Majeur or "acts of god". Most hotels will be reasonable with flexing their individual cancellation policies when stuff like this happens because it is beyond your control assuming people aren't dicks when the call the hotel to cancel.
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There is absolutely no reason to cancel the Canadian part of this tour as it stands right now. I think they need to unfortunately wait till the last minute to make this decision since so much can change.
Just because they can wait, doesn’t mean they should. People still have money they can recover from travel costs. They really need to decide soon.
That doesnt really make sense though. I cant see them cancelling at this point when no other touring acts or professional sporting events in the current touring routing are doing so. If things change drastically and we start seeing person to person infections happening, in for example Toronto, then things would change really fast. If shows are getting cancelled on the spring tour it will most definitely be much closer to the actual shows.
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There is absolutely no reason to cancel the Canadian part of this tour as it stands right now. I think they need to unfortunately wait till the last minute to make this decision since so much can change.
Just because they can wait, doesn’t mean they should. People still have money they can recover from travel costs. They really need to decide soon.
That doesnt really make sense though. I cant see them cancelling at this point when no other touring acts or professional sporting events in the current touring routing are doing so. If things change drastically and we start seeing person to person infections happening, in for example Toronto, then things would change really fast. If shows are getting cancelled on the spring tour it will most definitely be much closer to the actual shows.
It wasn’t a request to cancel. But again, being proactive will help more than being reactive.
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Also whether they cancel the day before the show or now I get the same amount of money back.
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I don’t have a strong feeling either way as to what they will decide.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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That doesnt really make sense though. I cant see them cancelling at this point when no other touring acts or professional sporting events in the current touring routing are doing so. If things change drastically and we start seeing person to person infections happening, in for example Toronto, then things would change really fast. If shows are getting cancelled on the spring tour it will most definitely be much closer to the actual shows.
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