CoVid19 Virus : Impact on PJ Spring & Summer Tours

washed in black

YAKIMATSU said:

"Hoax". 
... How can we be confident that this will be handled in an organized and safe manner?

Sadly, we can't. And we shouldn't expect that it will be.

mattsavard

PJNB said:

In positive news if China's numbers are correct their numbers have started to swing the other way. Hopefully South Korea and Italy can get there as well and China remains on this course. Long term this is the news we want to be hearing. 

The problem is China's numbers are only plateauing because of quarantine. As soon as they open the doors and people start mingling it will likely spread again. 

Or as soon as someone travels to/from a country that hasn't killed it and the process starts all over again. Once a virus has gone pandemic it becomes a game of whack-a-mole. 

Cahoots

Just saw that Saudi Arabia has stopped international travel to Mecca.  Even God's concerts are getting canceled

gotthebottle

YAKIMATSU said:

"Hoax". 
This is why we are in a much worse position than we ever should be. Testing is what other countries are doing, London has a drive thru test site, not the US.  Questioning why we have so few tests for a pandemic, but we have a space force and are increasing  nukes is legitimate.  Priorities and logic are currently fucked and true knowledge is ridiculed. How can we be confident that this will be handled in an organized and safe manner?

Not until we get new smarter leadership

PJNB

mattsavard said:

PJNB said:

In positive news if China's numbers are correct their numbers have started to swing the other way. Hopefully South Korea and Italy can get there as well and China remains on this course. Long term this is the news we want to be hearing. 

The problem is China's numbers are only plateauing because of quarantine. As soon as they open the doors and people start mingling it will likely spread again. 

Or as soon as someone travels to/from a country that hasn't killed it and the process starts all over again. Once a virus has gone pandemic it becomes a game of whack-a-mole. 

Why can't you just say that its positive news and promising instead of always putting a negative spin on things? If the numbers go up its bad. If the numbers go down its temporary. Lose lose on all accounts. There is no problem with China's numbers going down. That is a positive. Take it as a win for now quarantine or not. 

Cahoots

How many people won't go to doctor because they don't want /can't afford to pay?  I think thats the number one worry

iamgiventofly

PJNB said:

mattsavard said:

PJNB said:

In positive news if China's numbers are correct their numbers have started to swing the other way. Hopefully South Korea and Italy can get there as well and China remains on this course. Long term this is the news we want to be hearing. 

The problem is China's numbers are only plateauing because of quarantine. As soon as they open the doors and people start mingling it will likely spread again. 

Or as soon as someone travels to/from a country that hasn't killed it and the process starts all over again. Once a virus has gone pandemic it becomes a game of whack-a-mole. 

Why can't you just say that its positive news and promising instead of always putting a negative spin on things? If the numbers go up its bad. If the numbers go down its temporary. Lose lose on all accounts. There is no problem with China's numbers going down. That is a positive. Take it as a win for now quarantine or not. 

Positive... positive, positive!

NewJPage

PureandEasy said:

The issue today is that we have the ability to prevent transmission.  The influenza flu pandemic 1918 killed an estimated 50+ million people world wide.  A few reasons this was so widespread was because of lack of knowledge.  People in Chicago had more knowledge of the sickness than say people in Philadelphia.  So there was no panic in Philadelphia when they threw a huge parade.  A large group of people, in close contact, during a pandemic.  Look up the numbers for Philly during that time.  News didn't travel so fast back then.  Obviously today, prevention efforts and knowledge is readily available.  It would be wise to use those tools.  

We still have a similar situation. The difference now is that knowledge about the sickness is not dictated by location but by whether you listen to scientists or the president. 

aurelgugus

mattsavard said:

the souvenir you kept your hou said:

...so, Switzerland has imposed a ban on public events that gather more than 1,000 people together in the same place until at least March 15 in response to the coronavirus threat.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/coronavirus_switzerland-bans-events-with-more-than-1-000-people/45585378

Hopefully all will be under control by summer :-/

They likely won't be the last, unfortunately... :(  

Same thing in France for indoor event with more than 5,000

chiwhitesox

PJNB said:

mattsavard said:

PJNB said:

In positive news if China's numbers are correct their numbers have started to swing the other way. Hopefully South Korea and Italy can get there as well and China remains on this course. Long term this is the news we want to be hearing. 

The problem is China's numbers are only plateauing because of quarantine. As soon as they open the doors and people start mingling it will likely spread again. 

Or as soon as someone travels to/from a country that hasn't killed it and the process starts all over again. Once a virus has gone pandemic it becomes a game of whack-a-mole. 

Why can't you just say that its positive news and promising instead of always putting a negative spin on things? If the numbers go up its bad. If the numbers go down its temporary. Lose lose on all accounts. There is no problem with China's numbers going down. That is a positive. Take it as a win for now quarantine or not. 

...cause the dudes a Debbie Downer who spreads fear just like the media is doing. Wash your hands. Stay healthy. Don't worry about what may or may not happen. Jesus.

BTW...this guy said it was like the common cold...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8059513/Cruise-passenger-caught-coronavirus-Diamond-Princess-says-just-like-cold.html

Chillax people and maybe end this pointless thread once and for all.

Later.

KN219077

Cahoots said:

How many people won't go to doctor because they don't want /can't afford to pay?  I think thats the number one worry

My wife works in healthcare, trust me, people who can't or don't pay make up a large portion of people walking into hospital. I don't think that will be an main factor in any disease spread. 

bootlegger10

chiwhitesox said:

PJNB said:

mattsavard said:

PJNB said:

In positive news if China's numbers are correct their numbers have started to swing the other way. Hopefully South Korea and Italy can get there as well and China remains on this course. Long term this is the news we want to be hearing. 

The problem is China's numbers are only plateauing because of quarantine. As soon as they open the doors and people start mingling it will likely spread again. 

Or as soon as someone travels to/from a country that hasn't killed it and the process starts all over again. Once a virus has gone pandemic it becomes a game of whack-a-mole. 

Why can't you just say that its positive news and promising instead of always putting a negative spin on things? If the numbers go up its bad. If the numbers go down its temporary. Lose lose on all accounts. There is no problem with China's numbers going down. That is a positive. Take it as a win for now quarantine or not. 

...cause the dudes a Debbie Downer who spreads fear just like the media is doing. Wash your hands. Stay healthy. Don't worry about what may or may not happen. Jesus.

BTW...this guy said it was like the common cold...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8059513/Cruise-passenger-caught-coronavirus-Diamond-Princess-says-just-like-cold.html

Chillax people and maybe end this pointless thread once and for all.

Later.

Pointless thread?  This is the most ignorant statement in this whole thread.   They are canceling conferences in the US,  larger events in Europe, etc... it is not unreasonable to think that the PJ tour could be impacted.  

Did you read the quote about the doctor who was one of the whistleblowers in China about it?   No, because he died from it.  Get out of here with that article like one guy’s experience matters.

Sorry, this isn’t  going to kill millions but it is still something that has already disrupted the world so saying the thread is pointless is just silly.

mcgruff10

So does this mean the zurich show is canceled?

mattsavard

PJNB said:

mattsavard said:

PJNB said:

In positive news if China's numbers are correct their numbers have started to swing the other way. Hopefully South Korea and Italy can get there as well and China remains on this course. Long term this is the news we want to be hearing. 

The problem is China's numbers are only plateauing because of quarantine. As soon as they open the doors and people start mingling it will likely spread again. 

Or as soon as someone travels to/from a country that hasn't killed it and the process starts all over again. Once a virus has gone pandemic it becomes a game of whack-a-mole. 

Why can't you just say that its positive news and promising instead of always putting a negative spin on things? If the numbers go up its bad. If the numbers go down its temporary. Lose lose on all accounts. There is no problem with China's numbers going down. That is a positive. Take it as a win for now quarantine or not. 

Being a realist and stating facts isn't a bad thing. I'm a very positive guy. I'm still planning on heading to Canada. That sad it's important to be realistic. 

Yes it is awesome that China has slowed the virus way down by locking everyone in their homes. Unfortunately that's not sustainable long term. 

I think it's as important to understand why something is happening. Sincerely sorry if that bugs ya, but that needed clarification for those who didn't understand the why. 

PJNB

mcgruff10 said:

So does this mean the zurich show is canceled?

The cancelations go until Mar 15th and can move again if needed. March 15 until July 17th is 124 days. Over 1/3 of a year. Plenty can happen for better or worse in that timespan. 

PJNB

mattsavard said:

PJNB said:

mattsavard said:

PJNB said:

In positive news if China's numbers are correct their numbers have started to swing the other way. Hopefully South Korea and Italy can get there as well and China remains on this course. Long term this is the news we want to be hearing. 

The problem is China's numbers are only plateauing because of quarantine. As soon as they open the doors and people start mingling it will likely spread again. 

Or as soon as someone travels to/from a country that hasn't killed it and the process starts all over again. Once a virus has gone pandemic it becomes a game of whack-a-mole. 

Why can't you just say that its positive news and promising instead of always putting a negative spin on things? If the numbers go up its bad. If the numbers go down its temporary. Lose lose on all accounts. There is no problem with China's numbers going down. That is a positive. Take it as a win for now quarantine or not. 

Being a realist and stating facts isn't a bad thing. I'm a very positive guy. I'm still planning on heading to Canada. That sad it's important to be realistic. 

Yes it is awesome that China has slowed the virus way down by locking everyone in their homes. Unfortunately that's not sustainable long term. 

I think it's as important to understand why something is happening. Sincerely sorry if that bugs ya, but that needed clarification for those who didn't understand the why. 

Everybody knows the quarantine is part of the reason the numbers are swinging. You are not informing anyone on that matter. I am just saying it is positive news as it is and you need to comeback with a ya but. You have no clue if after they reopen their doors that its going to take off again. You are speculating on the matter and time will tell if you are right or wrong. That is no way a fact. Also you are not bugging me or educating me. We all have this information a click away if we want it. Some of us look at the news differently and thats ok. Be prepared, be positive and hope the shows go on and more importantly this virus is stopped.

PJNB

bootlegger10 said:

chiwhitesox said:

PJNB said:

mattsavard said:

PJNB said:

In positive news if China's numbers are correct their numbers have started to swing the other way. Hopefully South Korea and Italy can get there as well and China remains on this course. Long term this is the news we want to be hearing. 

The problem is China's numbers are only plateauing because of quarantine. As soon as they open the doors and people start mingling it will likely spread again. 

Or as soon as someone travels to/from a country that hasn't killed it and the process starts all over again. Once a virus has gone pandemic it becomes a game of whack-a-mole. 

Why can't you just say that its positive news and promising instead of always putting a negative spin on things? If the numbers go up its bad. If the numbers go down its temporary. Lose lose on all accounts. There is no problem with China's numbers going down. That is a positive. Take it as a win for now quarantine or not. 

...cause the dudes a Debbie Downer who spreads fear just like the media is doing. Wash your hands. Stay healthy. Don't worry about what may or may not happen. Jesus.

BTW...this guy said it was like the common cold...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8059513/Cruise-passenger-caught-coronavirus-Diamond-Princess-says-just-like-cold.html

Chillax people and maybe end this pointless thread once and for all.

Later.

Pointless thread?  This is the most ignorant statement in this whole thread.   They are canceling conferences in the US,  larger events in Europe, etc... it is not unreasonable to think that the PJ tour could be impacted.  

Did you read the quote about the doctor who was one of the whistleblowers in China about it?   No, because he died from it.  Get out of here with that article like one guy’s experience matters.

Sorry, this isn’t  going to kill millions but it is still something that has already disrupted the world so saying the thread is pointless is just silly.

I think the impact on the tour is inevitable in one way or another at this point. Whether it be a full cancelation or city/state/province shutdown is what I would be curious to see.

drakeheuer14

We finally get a big year and this all happens. Fingers crossed still. 

Zod

I would assume the US/Canada border would be one of the last to close.. but I guess other things could cause the shows to get cancelled.   I'm not to worried about contracting the virus.  It seems to have a pretty low mortality rate for people under 60 in good health.

mattsavard

PJNB said:

mcgruff10 said:

So does this mean the zurich show is canceled?

The cancelations go until Mar 15th and can move again if needed. March 15 until July 17th is 124 days. Over 1/3 of a year. Plenty can happen for better or worse in that timespan. 

Yep! Totally good reason to stay optimistic that things get sorted before then 👍🏼