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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,953
    i am going to keep masking for a while, mainly indoors where i am close to people. i am vaccinated and probably do not need to, but i just feel more comfortable doing so for now. 

    i am going to keep masking for a while, mainly indoors where i am close to people. i am vaccinated and probably do not need to, but i just feel more comfortable doing so for now. 

    Same here.  I'll keep a mask tucked in my back pocket any time I go out and use it any time I have any doubts.  Better masked safe than COVID sorry!
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,753
    Well we have indian variant of concern spreading  here  now. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,093
    i am going to keep masking for a while, mainly indoors where i am close to people. i am vaccinated and probably do not need to, but i just feel more comfortable doing so for now. 
    You're going to look like such a dork!

    (Kidding.  It's so funny to me how many people think you're the one that should be mocked).
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,093
    So Bill Maher serves as a good example of the vaccine and questions surrounding it. He tested positive for COVID after getting the vaccine. As you'd expect, he doesn't feel sick at all, showing the vaccine does work. But if he wasn't tested, he wouldn't have ever known. He just had to be tested so he can do his TV show. So many of us that are vaccinated are probably walking around with the virus, and don't know it because we're not going to be getting tested. And the CDC's new guidelines very much suggest that it's now up to the unvaccinated to protect themselves. 
    It'll be very interesting to see whether there's a difference between vaxed in unvaxed in terms of positives, symptoms, hospitalizations, and  deaths.  At this point, I don't know but it seems like we're starting the test right now.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
     
    The unwitting are the target of COVID-19 falsehoods online
    By ALI SWENSON and BEATRICE DUPUY
    38 mins ago

    Dr. Michelle Rockwell lost a pregnancy in December and shared her heartache with her 30,000 Instagram followers. Weeks later, she received the COVID-19 vaccine and posted about that, too.

    By February, Rockwell was getting past the grief and finally starting to experience moments of joy. But then, to her horror, social media users began using her posts to spread the false claim that she miscarried as a result of the shot.

    “They said horrible things to me, like how could I possibly get the vaccine, that I was a baby killer, and that I would be infertile forever and would never have babies again,” said Rockwell, a 39-year-old family medicine doctor from Tulsa, Oklahoma.

    Even though she knows that research shows the vaccine is safe for pregnant women, she said the posts brought her trauma to the surface and hurt her “to the core.”

    From a movie prop master in Texas to a professor in New York, people across the country have found themselves swept into the misinformation maelstrom, their online posts or their very identities hijacked by anti-vaccine activists and others peddling lies about the outbreak.

    From a movie prop master in Texas to a doctor in Oklahoma, people across the country have found themselves swept into the misinformation maelstrom, their online posts hijacked by anti-vaccine activists and others peddling lies about the outbreak. (May 14)

    Sharing other people’s posts or photos out of context is a common tactic in the disinformation playbook because it's an “easy, cheap way to gain credibility,” said Lisa Fazio, a Vanderbilt University psychology professor who studies how false claims spread.

    But during the COVID-19 pandemic, experts warn, false or misleading posts can mean the difference between someone taking precautions or not.

    “When you’re in a situation where the world is confusing, you’re trying to latch on to what’s true. A common suggestion is to listen to the experts,” Fazio said. “If you have people pretending to be those experts or grabbing that credibility, then that can cause a lot of havoc.”

    Scott Reeder, a movie and TV prop master in Austin, Texas, who frequently shares jokes and film industry secrets with his 1 million TikTok followers, posted a short video in September demonstrating how retractable stunt knives, syringes and icepicks are used on a movie set.

    In December, he learned that a clip of the footage was being misused on Facebook and Twitter. Someone had isolated the part of the video where he pushes the spring-loaded syringe into his arm, and falsely claimed that politicians overseas are using the devices to fake their COVID-19 vaccinations.

    Reeder was able to tamp down the falsehoods with help from TikTok followers who vouched for him and by releasing a second video outlining the misinformation. But it upsets him that his posts were used to promote a conspiracy theory he knows is false.

    “I’m just trying to make people laugh with my dad jokes and my prop information,” Reeder said. “But people just try to suck you in or utilize your content to push their agenda.”

    Robert Oswald, a professor of molecular medicine at Cornell University, hadn't even put anything on social media when he learned his name was being used in viral posts claiming the coronavirus was “imaginary and fictitious.”

    A bogus statement claimed Oswald had done research that found COVID-19 was “just another flu strain." Some of the posts included his professional photo and office address.

    “It said I had some sort of lab in California. It said I was a virologist. None of that’s true,” Oswald said. “I was pretty horrified by it all, obviously.”

    Oswald, who doesn’t study viruses in his work, disavowed the posts on his professional webpage and responded to each message he received with the truth, though some refused to believe it.

    Powerful or dramatic claims can be especially difficult to stamp out.

    “A Cornell professor warning about COVID, that’s boring. The same professor saying COVID is a hoax, well, that’s interesting and guarantees traffic,” said Dr. Elias Aboujaoude, a psychiatrist and Stanford University professor who studies the intersection of psychology and technology.

    Dr. Nicole Baldwin, a Cincinnati pediatrician who posted a video in support of vaccines in January 2020, said she was subjected to harassing messages, calls to her office, one-star reviews of her work, and memes that used her picture and falsely claimed she was under investigation for “drugging” autistic children.

    She now offers support over the phone and via email to people who have found themselves in her position — including Rockwell.

    “I look back at that time in January now, actually, with gratitude, because it got me to the point where I am right now,” Baldwin said. “But in that period that I was there in January, I certainly wasn’t saying, ‘Yay, this is amazing.’ So I’m trying to help other people.”


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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    It seems so weird to me that people are worried that if they wear a mask they will be thought to be not vaccinated, or not up on recommendations, or whatever. Still so bizarre that choosing to wear a mask in situations where you don't "have to" seems an area for confrontation or argument. 
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,435
    Judging by my time spent here, I would have to assume this is most of y'all?


    I am vaccinated and will continue to use sanitizer and wear a mask in a store, crowd, etc. My mom's health is delicate (yes, she's been vaccinated) and I will do this to protect her and other people that I come into contact with that have health issues. 
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    mfc2006 said:
    Judging by my time spent here, I would have to assume this is most of y'all?


    I am vaccinated and will continue to use sanitizer and wear a mask in a store, crowd, etc. My mom's health is delicate (yes, she's been vaccinated) and I will do this to protect her and other people that I come into contact with that have health issues. 
    Yes, same here, for my grandchildren and the vulnerable 
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    It seems so weird to me that people are worried that if they wear a mask they will be thought to be not vaccinated, or not up on recommendations, or whatever. Still so bizarre that choosing to wear a mask in situations where you don't "have to" seems an area for confrontation or argument. 
    Or that if you’re vaccinated and out without a mask, there’s a need to defend yourself.

    I will continue to live my little life, and not intentionally do anything to put others in jeopardy.

    Doesn’t take a pandemic to do that anyway :)
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,848
    OnWis97 said:
    So Bill Maher serves as a good example of the vaccine and questions surrounding it. He tested positive for COVID after getting the vaccine. As you'd expect, he doesn't feel sick at all, showing the vaccine does work. But if he wasn't tested, he wouldn't have ever known. He just had to be tested so he can do his TV show. So many of us that are vaccinated are probably walking around with the virus, and don't know it because we're not going to be getting tested. And the CDC's new guidelines very much suggest that it's now up to the unvaccinated to protect themselves. 
    It'll be very interesting to see whether there's a difference between vaxed in unvaxed in terms of positives, symptoms, hospitalizations, and  deaths.  At this point, I don't know but it seems like we're starting the test right now.
    Already seeing it.  Cleveland clinic announced that 99.7% of covid admissions since January were people who were not fully vaccinated
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    OnWis97 said:
    So Bill Maher serves as a good example of the vaccine and questions surrounding it. He tested positive for COVID after getting the vaccine. As you'd expect, he doesn't feel sick at all, showing the vaccine does work. But if he wasn't tested, he wouldn't have ever known. He just had to be tested so he can do his TV show. So many of us that are vaccinated are probably walking around with the virus, and don't know it because we're not going to be getting tested. And the CDC's new guidelines very much suggest that it's now up to the unvaccinated to protect themselves. 
    It'll be very interesting to see whether there's a difference between vaxed in unvaxed in terms of positives, symptoms, hospitalizations, and  deaths.  At this point, I don't know but it seems like we're starting the test right now.
    Already seeing it.  Cleveland clinic announced that 99.7% of covid admissions since January were people who were not fully vaccinated

    Oh yeah, absolutely. I didn't see that comment before that you replied to, but good data from lots of different jurisdictions showing just how marked the difference it in infection rates and illness rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Very large population based studies are showing very small rates of infection, illness, death AND TRANSMISSION to others in vaccinated individuals. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
    OnWis97 said:
    So Bill Maher serves as a good example of the vaccine and questions surrounding it. He tested positive for COVID after getting the vaccine. As you'd expect, he doesn't feel sick at all, showing the vaccine does work. But if he wasn't tested, he wouldn't have ever known. He just had to be tested so he can do his TV show. So many of us that are vaccinated are probably walking around with the virus, and don't know it because we're not going to be getting tested. And the CDC's new guidelines very much suggest that it's now up to the unvaccinated to protect themselves. 
    It'll be very interesting to see whether there's a difference between vaxed in unvaxed in terms of positives, symptoms, hospitalizations, and  deaths.  At this point, I don't know but it seems like we're starting the test right now.
    Already seeing it.  Cleveland clinic announced that 99.7% of covid admissions since January were people who were not fully vaccinated

    Oh yeah, absolutely. I didn't see that comment before that you replied to, but good data from lots of different jurisdictions showing just how marked the difference it in infection rates and illness rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Very large population based studies are showing very small rates of infection, illness, death AND TRANSMISSION to others in vaccinated individuals. 

    Pffft. science.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,955
    mickeyrat said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So Bill Maher serves as a good example of the vaccine and questions surrounding it. He tested positive for COVID after getting the vaccine. As you'd expect, he doesn't feel sick at all, showing the vaccine does work. But if he wasn't tested, he wouldn't have ever known. He just had to be tested so he can do his TV show. So many of us that are vaccinated are probably walking around with the virus, and don't know it because we're not going to be getting tested. And the CDC's new guidelines very much suggest that it's now up to the unvaccinated to protect themselves. 
    It'll be very interesting to see whether there's a difference between vaxed in unvaxed in terms of positives, symptoms, hospitalizations, and  deaths.  At this point, I don't know but it seems like we're starting the test right now.
    Already seeing it.  Cleveland clinic announced that 99.7% of covid admissions since January were people who were not fully vaccinated

    Oh yeah, absolutely. I didn't see that comment before that you replied to, but good data from lots of different jurisdictions showing just how marked the difference it in infection rates and illness rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Very large population based studies are showing very small rates of infection, illness, death AND TRANSMISSION to others in vaccinated individuals. 

    Pffft. science.
    Shoulda just rode herd.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    mickeyrat said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So Bill Maher serves as a good example of the vaccine and questions surrounding it. He tested positive for COVID after getting the vaccine. As you'd expect, he doesn't feel sick at all, showing the vaccine does work. But if he wasn't tested, he wouldn't have ever known. He just had to be tested so he can do his TV show. So many of us that are vaccinated are probably walking around with the virus, and don't know it because we're not going to be getting tested. And the CDC's new guidelines very much suggest that it's now up to the unvaccinated to protect themselves. 
    It'll be very interesting to see whether there's a difference between vaxed in unvaxed in terms of positives, symptoms, hospitalizations, and  deaths.  At this point, I don't know but it seems like we're starting the test right now.
    Already seeing it.  Cleveland clinic announced that 99.7% of covid admissions since January were people who were not fully vaccinated

    Oh yeah, absolutely. I didn't see that comment before that you replied to, but good data from lots of different jurisdictions showing just how marked the difference it in infection rates and illness rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Very large population based studies are showing very small rates of infection, illness, death AND TRANSMISSION to others in vaccinated individuals. 

    Pffft. science.
    Shoulda just rode herd.
    We could have been done a month or two ago and only had several million more dead.  Totally the right tradeoff. 
  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,521
    ?So are we vaccinated or not?
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,521
    Thankful for Warp Speed.

    Can't believe people are so small they can't acknowledge the speed with which we had a vaccine. 
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Thankful for Warp Speed.

    Can't believe people are so small they can't acknowledge the speed with which we had a vaccine. 
    I’m only 5’3” so...

    I’m thankful to have a vaccine that works. I hope all have access to it as quickly as those I know.

    Silly, small me. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,955
    Thankful for Warp Speed.

    Can't believe people are so small they can't acknowledge the speed with which we had a vaccine. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,492
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    Thankful for Warp Speed.

    Can't believe people are so small they can't acknowledge the speed with which we had a vaccine. 
    Doesn’t people on the right think they came out to fast and are unsafe?
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
    yes. I got Pfizered.....

    hmmm, first out of the gate and done independently.

    jokes on me I guess.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,421
    i am going to keep masking for a while, mainly indoors where i am close to people. i am vaccinated and probably do not need to, but i just feel more comfortable doing so for now. 
    That’s what we are doing too!
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,421
    Thankful for Warp Speed.

    Can't believe people are so small they can't acknowledge the speed with which we had a vaccine. 
    I guess Brasil wasn’t in on the warp speed conference, your orange hero had nothing to do with vaccine processing! 
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,753
    i am going to keep masking for a while, mainly indoors where i am close to people. i am vaccinated and probably do not need to, but i just feel more comfortable doing so for now. 
    That’s what we are doing too!
    Same
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,421
    i am going to keep masking for a while, mainly indoors where i am close to people. i am vaccinated and probably do not need to, but i just feel more comfortable doing so for now. 
    That’s what we are doing too!
    Same
    Yes stay safe friend! 
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    Canada looking like it is light years behind the US regarding opening up and loosening restrictions. I know we are behind in vaccines but even that green fall restriction guideline does not have me super excited for seeing concerts again anytime soon here. 

  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    edited May 2021


    :lol: ugh

    There is some good news one opening the border. The first steps are getting started on doing so with preliminary talks under way. Hopefully by September we can have them open or sooner. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
    edited May 2021
    PJNB said:
    Canada looking like it is light years behind the US regarding opening up and loosening restrictions. I know we are behind in vaccines but even that green fall restriction guideline does not have me super excited for seeing concerts again anytime soon here. 


    looks like an aa conference near windsor I attend end of feb and end of july is off for this july too....
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    edited May 2021
    Thankful for Warp Speed.

    Can't believe people are so small they can't acknowledge the speed with which we had a vaccine. 
    Doesn’t people on the right think they came out to fast and are unsafe?
    Why yes,  yes they do.  

    1. No one is thanking Trump!

    2. No way am I taking that vaccine for a bug no worse than the flu!

    Idiots. 
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,872
    mickeyrat said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So Bill Maher serves as a good example of the vaccine and questions surrounding it. He tested positive for COVID after getting the vaccine. As you'd expect, he doesn't feel sick at all, showing the vaccine does work. But if he wasn't tested, he wouldn't have ever known. He just had to be tested so he can do his TV show. So many of us that are vaccinated are probably walking around with the virus, and don't know it because we're not going to be getting tested. And the CDC's new guidelines very much suggest that it's now up to the unvaccinated to protect themselves. 
    It'll be very interesting to see whether there's a difference between vaxed in unvaxed in terms of positives, symptoms, hospitalizations, and  deaths.  At this point, I don't know but it seems like we're starting the test right now.
    Already seeing it.  Cleveland clinic announced that 99.7% of covid admissions since January were people who were not fully vaccinated

    Oh yeah, absolutely. I didn't see that comment before that you replied to, but good data from lots of different jurisdictions showing just how marked the difference it in infection rates and illness rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Very large population based studies are showing very small rates of infection, illness, death AND TRANSMISSION to others in vaccinated individuals. 

    Pffft. science.

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