The coronavirus

HughFreakingDillon

mcgruff10 said:

So how effective are masks?   If both people are wearing them and talking and one person has covid the other person should be safe correct?  

i don't think we can get an accurate number that goes across the board since everyone is wearing different masks made by different materials with a different thread count. 

and i honestly don't know if you can say your second question definitively. but they certainly make a big difference. 

PJPOWER

mcgruff10 said:

So how effective are masks?   If both people are wearing them and talking and one person has covid the other person should be safe correct?  

I don’t know if I go as far as saying they are “safe”, but they have greatly decreased the odds of spreading it.  I don’t think it’s good for people to have a false sense of security because they are wearing a mask, as there is still a very real possibility of exposure.  Masks are definitely not 100% effective, but are better than nothing.

Spiritual_Chaos

As stated, every mask I see being sold here (except for medical masks in the pharmacy) say - "DOES NOT HELP AGAINST VIRUSES." 

Maybe sweden's "keep the distance and stay home if feeling sick in any way - masks have the risk of giving people a false sense of security" has something to it.

Will buy a few though, and alcogel - before shops run out of it like in the spring.

heh.

HughFreakingDillon

so why are all the medical experts saying "masks masks masks"? a big conspiracy to help the mask industry?

OnWis97

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

So how effective are masks?   If both people are wearing them and talking and one person has covid the other person should be safe correct?  

I don’t know if I go as far as saying they are “safe”, but they have greatly decreased the odds of spreading it.  I don’t think it’s good for people to have a false sense of security because they are wearing a mask, as there is still a very real possibility of exposure.  Masks are definitely not 100% effective, but are better than nothing.

Yeah...you're mitigating, not eliminating, the risk. 

Spiritual_Chaos

HughFreakingDillon said:

so why are all the medical experts saying "masks masks masks"? a big conspiracy to help the mask industry?

I think Alex Jones might give an answer to this in the Joe Rogan interview actually, haha.

Spiritual_Chaos

How do people do with masks, do you have enough to switch everyday and throw them in with the washing... like I don't know socks... or do you handwash a few? Etc.

HughFreakingDillon

Spiritual_Chaos said:

How do people do with masks, do you have enough to switch everyday and throw them in with the washing... like I don't know socks... or do you handwash a few? Etc.

Combination of cloth ones and disposables. 

lastexitlondon

Masks are proven to cut the viral load. Also if both people are wearing it cuts risk down by about 80% i believe. So masks indoors are a must. Outdoors the circulating air dilutes viral particles.  So everything  ive read says if everyone  wears a face covering of any kind indoors it is a very good step towards less infection and lower  viral load.
There are 100s of videos on how to make them . Wash them everyday with your laundry. 
There are ones that require  no sewing at all. 

mace1229

Spiritual_Chaos said:

As stated, every mask I see being sold here (except for medical masks in the pharmacy) say - "DOES NOT HELP AGAINST VIRUSES." 

Maybe sweden's "keep the distance and stay home if feeling sick in any way - masks have the risk of giving people a false sense of security" has something to it.

Will buy a few though, and alcogel - before shops run out of it like in the spring.

heh.

Does it say "does not help..." or "does not stop..."? Big difference. Saying it doesn't "help" would be wrong. Saying it won't "stop" the virus would be correct. Maybe its just a translation thing too. 

mace1229

Spiritual_Chaos said:

How do people do with masks, do you have enough to switch everyday and throw them in with the washing... like I don't know socks... or do you handwash a few? Etc.

I have 4 or 5 I rotate through, then wash on the weekend. 

josevolution

I only wear the medical ones from work and if I have to go anywhere near COVID floor I put my N95 on..

what dreams

I've given up on the cloth masks that have to be washed. I also gave up on the made in China crap found all over Amazon. I just received my first box of 50 legit surgical masks from this company https://mask.demetech.us/SurgicalMask.html  They are well-made and fit securely. Made in USA. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Yeah, those I can find in the pharmacy. But they are not as cool looking as the black ones...

cincybearcat

lastexitlondon said:

Re. Masks. 
N95 are the highest spec but for medical use.
Face coverings stop aerosolization and limit viral  load. So if everyone wears one cuts around 80% out.
There is a good test. Put mask in and try blow a lighter or candle out .

This. The non-95 provide a good amount of protection, especially if everyone is wearing them.  

cincybearcat

I gotta admit it seems strange for anyone in the 1st world to not have already bought a mask by now. 

GlowGirl

Spiritual_Chaos said:

How do people do with masks, do you have enough to switch everyday and throw them in with the washing... like I don't know socks... or do you handwash a few? Etc.

I have both cloth and disposable (that makes them sound like diapers). I have about 10 cloth masks that I rotate each day, and then when I am down to two left, I hand wash the used ones and let them hand dry overnight. I don't have a washing machine in my apartment. However, if you do wash them in a machine, you should still hang dry them.

Spiritual_Chaos

cincybearcat said:

I gotta admit it seems strange for anyone in the 1st world to not have already bought a mask by now. 

Would you feel it being strange for anyone in the 1st world to not guarantee universal health care for its covid-sick citizens?

lastexitlondon

I think we are missing the  point here. The colour of mask matters not. Just wear one.

lastexitlondon

And  take vitamin d3 everyone  please .