US Christian Missionary endanger the lives of inhabitants on isolated Indian island

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 12,316
edited November 2018 in A Moving Train
An American Christian missionary is thought to have been killed by tribespeople from one of the world's most isolated communities on a remote island hundreds of miles off the coast of India, according to officials.

The 27-year-old American, identified as John Allen Chau, came to India on a tourist visa but came to the Andaman and Nicobar islands in October with the express purpose of proselytizing, Dependra Pathak, Director General of Police of the Andaman and Nicobar islands, told CNN.
"We refuse to call him a tourist. Yes, he came on a tourist visa but he came with a specific purpose to preach on a prohibited island," Pathak said.

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    Survival International, a nongovernmental group that says it is dedicated to tribal peoples' rights, said Indian authorities should ensure outsiders not make contact with the tribe, because of the risk of disease or threats to their land.

    "The Sentinelese have shown again and again that they want to be left alone, and their wishes should be respected," the group said. "The British colonial occupation of the Andaman Islands decimated the tribes living there, wiping out thousands of tribespeople, and only a fraction of the original population now survive. So the Sentinelese fear of outsiders is very understandable."

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/21/asia/andaman-nicobar-us-missionary-killed-intl/index.html?no-st=1542882539

    My Comment: Fucking Idiot. On twitter people are calling him a martyr and suggests they should keep sending christian nut-jobs over there.
    The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
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    • This is a perfect story for Thanksgiving here in the states.
    • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 13,225
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    • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
      So we are ok with killing "outsiders" now? guess they saw it as an "invasion" lol
    • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 12,316
      edited November 2018
      my2hands said:
      So we are ok with killing "outsiders" now?
      "we" -- What are your thoughts of the situation?
      Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
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    • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 12,316
      edited November 2018
      my2hands said:
       guess they saw it as an "invasion" lol
      Their island is declared sovereign by India, it is forbidden to go to or be close to the island and us going there could mean the death of their population. So I think you can use invasion without the quation marks.
      The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
    • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 6,266
      He went there illegally. 
      The people who took him there have been arrested.
      The island is under the protection of India and even the police and military stay away.


    • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 12,316
      edited November 2018
      I want to say, that there are people living isolated from the rest of the world like this is fascinating. 

      Is it something completely different from other groups of people living away from our society but still interact in some fashion. 

      These are completely sheltered off and for thousands of years have lived by themselves. They are like a completely different spieces - with a langauge we don't understand. 

      They don't even use fire. And when "we" left a pig on the island in the 70's they killed and buried it instead of eating it.

      It's crazy and interesting.
      Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
      The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
    • The guy sounded like a decent guy, but for the record... he was anointed as an idiot in the idiot thread.

      For so many reasons, he shouldn't have ventured there.
      "My brain's a good brain!"
    • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 18,624
      Definitely an idiot but he didn’t deserve to die. 
      I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
    • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 5,841
      mcgruff10 said:
      Definitely an idiot but he didn’t deserve to die. 
      This
    • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 12,316
      edited November 2018
      mcgruff10 said:
      Definitely an idiot but he didn’t deserve to die. 
      No. But at the same time, 200 people do not deserve to die because of an idiot and his diseases and stupidity.

      And he had the chance to leave even, but didn't.

      And he obviously knew the risks, so he's a possible and willing mass murderer. So.
      Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
      The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
    • mcgruff10 said:
      Definitely an idiot but he didn’t deserve to die. 

      I wasn't inferring that if that's what you thought, Scruffy.
      "My brain's a good brain!"
    • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 18,624
      mcgruff10 said:
      Definitely an idiot but he didn’t deserve to die. 

      I wasn't inferring that if that's what you thought, Scruffy.
      My statement wasn't in response to yours.  Where's my basketball advice coach?
      I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
    • mcgruff10 said:
      mcgruff10 said:
      Definitely an idiot but he didn’t deserve to die. 

      I wasn't inferring that if that's what you thought, Scruffy.
      My statement wasn't in response to yours.  Where's my basketball advice coach?

      Play defence like a pitbull.

      Shooting is the most important offensive skill.
      "My brain's a good brain!"
    • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 46,849
      edited November 2018
      I don't know if that makes me seem like a total asshole, but I can't seem to muster even a little bit of sympathy for this guy. What a fucking idiot. And a total arrogant asshole too. His attitude is the same one that wipes out entire civilizations, and ruined many others, throughout history. And quite frankly, I actually do think he deserved to die, all things considered. I think that tribe did the exact right thing in killing him immediately. I feel like they had an unalienable right to do that.
      With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
    • PJ_Soul said:
      I don't know if that makes me seem like a total asshole, but I can't seem to muster even a little bit of sympathy for this guy. What a fucking idiot. And a total arrogant asshole too. His attitude is the same one that wipes out entire civilizations, and ruined many others, throughout history. And quite frankly, I actually do think he deserved to die, all things considered. I think that tribe did the exact right thing in killing him immediately. I feel like they had an unalienable right to do that.
      Self defence for sure.

      There is no debating his idiocy.
      "My brain's a good brain!"
    • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 18,021
      my2hands said:
      So we are ok with killing "outsiders" now? guess they saw it as an "invasion" lol
      I thought "stand your ground" was acceptable in the good ol USofA? this primitive tribe does what it perceives it has to do in order to survive. they see an outsider and it is an imminent threat to them. hence, yes, killing him is their only option. I don't blame them. 

      he was a fucking moron. I'd say "deserves" to die is a bit harsh, but I definitely do not begrudge the tribe for their actions. 
    • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 46,849
      my2hands said:
      So we are ok with killing "outsiders" now? guess they saw it as an "invasion" lol
      I thought "stand your ground" was acceptable in the good ol USofA? this primitive tribe does what it perceives it has to do in order to survive. they see an outsider and it is an imminent threat to them. hence, yes, killing him is their only option. I don't blame them. 

      he was a fucking moron. I'd say "deserves" to die is a bit harsh, but I definitely do not begrudge the tribe for their actions. 
      Full on deserved it. And I wish all the Native Americans had done the same thing to the Europeans landing in North America back in the day - they could have prevented mass genocide.
      With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
    • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 18,021
      PJ_Soul said:
      my2hands said:
      So we are ok with killing "outsiders" now? guess they saw it as an "invasion" lol
      I thought "stand your ground" was acceptable in the good ol USofA? this primitive tribe does what it perceives it has to do in order to survive. they see an outsider and it is an imminent threat to them. hence, yes, killing him is their only option. I don't blame them. 

      he was a fucking moron. I'd say "deserves" to die is a bit harsh, but I definitely do not begrudge the tribe for their actions. 
      Full on deserved it. And I wish all the Native Americans had done the same thing to the Europeans landing in North America back in the day - they could have prevented mass genocide.
      #totalasshole  ;)
    • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 46,849
      PJ_Soul said:
      my2hands said:
      So we are ok with killing "outsiders" now? guess they saw it as an "invasion" lol
      I thought "stand your ground" was acceptable in the good ol USofA? this primitive tribe does what it perceives it has to do in order to survive. they see an outsider and it is an imminent threat to them. hence, yes, killing him is their only option. I don't blame them. 

      he was a fucking moron. I'd say "deserves" to die is a bit harsh, but I definitely do not begrudge the tribe for their actions. 
      Full on deserved it. And I wish all the Native Americans had done the same thing to the Europeans landing in North America back in the day - they could have prevented mass genocide.
      #totalasshole  ;)
      :lol: #thenimgoodwiththat :tongue:
      With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
    • PJ_Soul said:
      my2hands said:
      So we are ok with killing "outsiders" now? guess they saw it as an "invasion" lol
      I thought "stand your ground" was acceptable in the good ol USofA? this primitive tribe does what it perceives it has to do in order to survive. they see an outsider and it is an imminent threat to them. hence, yes, killing him is their only option. I don't blame them. 

      he was a fucking moron. I'd say "deserves" to die is a bit harsh, but I definitely do not begrudge the tribe for their actions. 
      Full on deserved it. And I wish all the Native Americans had done the same thing to the Europeans landing in North America back in the day - they could have prevented mass genocide.
      Then we would never have existed.

      Existing Native Americans weren't exactly Buddhist monks. They waged war amongst each other and tried to decimate rival nations by 'invading' rival territories.

      I'm not saying I am down with the European treatment of them. I'm saying the invasion of North America was inevitable. This earth is only so big. 
      "My brain's a good brain!"
    • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 46,849
      PJ_Soul said:
      my2hands said:
      So we are ok with killing "outsiders" now? guess they saw it as an "invasion" lol
      I thought "stand your ground" was acceptable in the good ol USofA? this primitive tribe does what it perceives it has to do in order to survive. they see an outsider and it is an imminent threat to them. hence, yes, killing him is their only option. I don't blame them. 

      he was a fucking moron. I'd say "deserves" to die is a bit harsh, but I definitely do not begrudge the tribe for their actions. 
      Full on deserved it. And I wish all the Native Americans had done the same thing to the Europeans landing in North America back in the day - they could have prevented mass genocide.
      Then we would never have existed.

      Existing Native Americans weren't exactly Buddhist monks. They waged war amongst each other and tried to decimate rival nations by 'invading' rival territories.

      I'm not saying I am down with the European treatment of them. I'm saying the invasion of North America was inevitable. This earth is only so big. 
      Yes, I realize we never would have existed. So what? No skin off our backs, lol. And I don't care what the Natives had going on either. I don't really get how you think any of what you said is relevant to what I said TBH. I'm sure you got the gist of the statement I was making, yes?

      With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
    • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 5,841
      PJ_Soul said:
      I don't know if that makes me seem like a total asshole, but I can't seem to muster even a little bit of sympathy for this guy. What a fucking idiot. And a total arrogant asshole too. His attitude is the same one that wipes out entire civilizations, and ruined many others, throughout history. And quite frankly, I actually do think he deserved to die, all things considered. I think that tribe did the exact right thing in killing him immediately. I feel like they had an unalienable right to do that.
      No, it doesn't.  I can understand your reaction.  He shouldn't have gone there, he wouldn't have got there if just one of those people who transported him there went to the authorities...all too late for now.  I do not think he deserved to die, but he is a Christian, so is he really dead ... or is he happy playing the harp on a cloud...lol.
    • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 46,849
      edited November 2018
      PJ_Soul said:
      I don't know if that makes me seem like a total asshole, but I can't seem to muster even a little bit of sympathy for this guy. What a fucking idiot. And a total arrogant asshole too. His attitude is the same one that wipes out entire civilizations, and ruined many others, throughout history. And quite frankly, I actually do think he deserved to die, all things considered. I think that tribe did the exact right thing in killing him immediately. I feel like they had an unalienable right to do that.
      No, it doesn't.  I can understand your reaction.  He shouldn't have gone there, he wouldn't have got there if just one of those people who transported him there went to the authorities...all too late for now.  I do not think he deserved to die, but he is a Christian, so is he really dead ... or is he happy playing the harp on a cloud...lol.
      More likely getting a lecture from God about the irresponsible, stupid thing he attempted to do, lol. God's all, "dude, why ya wanna fuck with those people and ruin them with Christianity??"
      With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
    • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 5,841
      PJ_Soul said:
      PJ_Soul said:
      I don't know if that makes me seem like a total asshole, but I can't seem to muster even a little bit of sympathy for this guy. What a fucking idiot. And a total arrogant asshole too. His attitude is the same one that wipes out entire civilizations, and ruined many others, throughout history. And quite frankly, I actually do think he deserved to die, all things considered. I think that tribe did the exact right thing in killing him immediately. I feel like they had an unalienable right to do that.
      No, it doesn't.  I can understand your reaction.  He shouldn't have gone there, he wouldn't have got there if just one of those people who transported him there went to the authorities...all too late for now.  I do not think he deserved to die, but he is a Christian, so is he really dead ... or is he happy playing the harp on a cloud...lol.
      More likely getting a lecture from God about the irresponsible, stupid thing he attempted to do, lol. God's all, "dude, why ya wanna fuck with those people and ruin them with Christianity??"
      LOL...
    • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,866
      PJ_Soul said:
      I don't know if that makes me seem like a total asshole, but I can't seem to muster even a little bit of sympathy for this guy. What a fucking idiot. And a total arrogant asshole too. His attitude is the same one that wipes out entire civilizations, and ruined many others, throughout history. And quite frankly, I actually do think he deserved to die, all things considered. I think that tribe did the exact right thing in killing him immediately. I feel like they had an unalienable right to do that.
      I'm 100% with you.
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    • rhanishanerhanishane NSW AustraliaPosts: 203
      Can't even fathom the stupidity and arrogance of this man. I dont even know what to say about his death.
    • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 5,841
      Can't even fathom the stupidity and arrogance of this man. I dont even know what to say about his death.
      Every Christian funeral they say the dead dudes in a better place, we will go with that.
    • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 13,225
      Religious nutters. 
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