I think they did wrong, it's not ok to arrow down an unarmed defenseless man. It's sad that he was so naive but I would never say they did the right thing.
They are very primitive, it's a simple out-group seen as a threat to their safety situation.
I understand, I was only a bit concerned about people seem to cheer for murderers, I can understand why they did it but I wouldn't say they did right like some seem to think. I feel like I'm reapeting myself, it's ok if no one understands me move on.
On a serious note, the island had been invaded and some were kidnapped previously. They’re protecting themselves from that and what if someone goes in and kills half of them from some illness. It’s not like he wasn’t aware of the danger. He chose to go, So he was ok with whatever Gods will.
I think they did wrong, it's not ok to arrow down an unarmed defenseless man. It's sad that he was so naive but I would never say they did the right thing.
They are very primitive, it's a simple out-group seen as a threat to their safety situation.
I understand, I was only a bit concerned about people seem to cheer for murderers, I can understand why they did it but I wouldn't say they did right like some seem to think. I feel like I'm reapeting myself, it's ok if no one understands me move on.
I understand what you're saying :-) Not right for sure but it's how it is sadly. I am very curious about this tribe, I wish there can be some more non violent contact without the risk of disease being spread to the island.
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I think they did wrong, it's not ok to arrow down an unarmed defenseless man. It's sad that he was so naive but I would never say they did the right thing.
They are very primitive, it's a simple out-group seen as a threat to their safety situation.
I understand, I was only a bit concerned about people seem to cheer for murderers, I can understand why they did it but I wouldn't say they did right like some seem to think. I feel like I'm reapeting myself, it's ok if no one understands me move on.
I understand what you're saying :-) Not right for sure but it's how it is sadly. I am very curious about this tribe, I wish there can be some more non violent contact without the risk of disease being spread to the island.
Thank you, it feels like it would be almost like time travel to see their way of life. I understand your curiosity, something tells me they are not so Interested in us as we are in them.
I think they did wrong, it's not ok to arrow down an unarmed defenseless man. It's sad that he was so naive but I would never say they did the right thing.
In what way was he naive?
The first thing you'll read about this tribe or similiar ones is the danger of disease and how we have wiped many of them them out before in history from us forcing our diseases on them.
So there is no chance he would know of them, and how to reach them -- without knowing this.
His disgusting Christian missrionary-bullshit trumped the risk of mass murder.
There is nothing naive about it.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I understand that they have no knowledge. They could have just ignored him though, why justify them killing him.
but they have extreme fear of something they don't know. that's how primitive tribes work. you tresspass on their land, they kill you. I know it doesn't make sense to us, otherwise we'd all be murdering our mailmen, but to them, he is there to kill them, so they kill him first.
I it was a pack of wolves I would agree with you. I understand what you're saying I'm just saying I think they did wrong.
What differentiates their situation from that of a pack of wolves, on your eyes?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I think they did wrong, it's not ok to arrow down an unarmed defenseless man. It's sad that he was so naive but I would never say they did the right thing.
In what way was he naive?
The first thing you'll read about this tribe or similiar ones is the danger of disease and how we have wiped many of them them out before in history from us forcing our diseases on them.
So there is no chance he would know of them, and how to reach them -- without knowing this.
His disgusting Christian missrionary-bullshit trumped the risk of mass murder.
There is nothing naive about it.
He was naive to think he could go there to this violent tribe and convert them to Christianity so easily.
I don't think he was thinking about the eventual risks of diseases, as he probably wasn't feeling sick.
As I said before I think it was terrible wrong of him to go there.
(If we wouldn't have Christian missionaries like Ansgar coming over to Scandinavia about 1000 years ago maybe we still would believe in Tor, Oden, Freja The first one was apparently killed.
I understand that they have no knowledge. They could have just ignored him though, why justify them killing him.
but they have extreme fear of something they don't know. that's how primitive tribes work. you tresspass on their land, they kill you. I know it doesn't make sense to us, otherwise we'd all be murdering our mailmen, but to them, he is there to kill them, so they kill him first.
I it was a pack of wolves I would agree with you. I understand what you're saying I'm just saying I think they did wrong.
What differentiates their situation from that of a pack of wolves, on your eyes?
The obvious that they are humans and they should know murder is wrong, they also killed two fishermen that was lost before. Even if they did wrong, I can understand them doing it.
I think they did wrong, it's not ok to arrow down an unarmed defenseless man. It's sad that he was so naive but I would never say they did the right thing.
In what way was he naive?
The first thing you'll read about this tribe or similiar ones is the danger of disease and how we have wiped many of them them out before in history from us forcing our diseases on them.
So there is no chance he would know of them, and how to reach them -- without knowing this.
His disgusting Christian missrionary-bullshit trumped the risk of mass murder.
There is nothing naive about it.
He was naive to think he could go there to this violent tribe and convert them to Christianity so easily.
I don't think he was thinking about the eventual risks of diseases, as he probably wasn't feeling sick.
As I said before I think it was terrible wrong of him to go there.
(If we wouldn't have Christian missionaries like Ansgar coming over to Scandinavia about 1000 years ago maybe we still would believe in Tor, Oden, Freja The first one was apparently killed.
Or we would have turned healthy atheist even quicker
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From what I’ve read some were kidnapped as an experiment a long time ago. The adults got sick and died. They returned the children. They remember and aren’t going to let that happen again. He knew the danger but went anyway on a mission. If the bible got to them, it was a success. It’s now up to them what to do with it. The guys parents even understand the danger that he chose to ignore. He’s ok with it. The parents accept it.
What they do with the Bible? What is the chance it’s in a language they can read.
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what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states? they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.
From what I’ve read some were kidnapped as an experiment a long time ago. The adults got sick and died. They returned the children. They remember and aren’t going to let that happen again. He knew the danger but went anyway on a mission. If the bible got to them, it was a success. It’s now up to them what to do with it. The guys parents even understand the danger that he chose to ignore. He’s ok with it. The parents accept it.
What they do with the Bible? What is the chance it’s in a language they can read.
Exactly. What a stupid fuck that guy was.
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what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states? they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.
Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.
Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.
As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
That was fascinating. Very informative and video. That Portman guy had issues and the picture of him sitting amidst the tribe in his chair is disturbing. No wonder they don't trust strangers. It was really cool when someone was the child of the air lifters and solved the mystery of what the boat was carrying. They just want to be left alone. It's not a difficult thing to do. They don't need a bible. Coconuts, evidently are a big hit, though. Thanks!
Why some people can't show respect towards other civilizations is very disturbing.
At least he could understand he did wrong, I found this he had sai; about when they took people from the island the adults became sick and died and the children were returned.
“We cannot be said to have done anything more than increase their general terror of, and hostility to, all comers,” Mr. Portman wrote in his 1899 book.
what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states? they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.
Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.
Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.
As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
Having your own weird ego-trip of saving savages with a religion that has killed so many before trump the dangers you know you pose to them might not be clinically mental issues - but it's fucking disgusting.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states? they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.
Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.
Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.
As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
I'm not saying faith is a mental issue. Going to an island where people are known to shoot you with arrows is a mental condition. He could have been going there for faith or to tell them his favorite color is green or that the new Star Wars movies are awesome when you see them in the theaters but upon repeated viewings you begin to notice massive plot holes ... the underlying notion of going to death island or dinosaur island or zombie island is not the option of sane cognitive thinking.
what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states? they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.
Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.
Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.
As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
I dunno... It's one thing to believe in God and go to church sometimes, but this guy was on another level and I do think everyone on that level has mental issues. The same way addicts and conspiracy theorists have mental issues. He thought God was directly interceding in his life so he could save these people. If you take something so far that you tip into delusion and lose the ability to discern reality, then you've got mental issues.
what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states? they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.
Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.
Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.
As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
I'm not saying faith is a mental issue. Going to an island where people are known to shoot you with arrows is a mental condition. He could have been going there for faith or to tell them his favorite color is green or that the new Star Wars movies are awesome when you see them in the theaters but upon repeated viewings you begin to notice massive plot holes ... the underlying notion of going to death island or dinosaur island or zombie island is not the option of sane cognitive thinking.
The guy was an imbecile. He felt like he was going to save these people? Like they were lost on their island and godless (destined for Hell)? How f**king arrogant... and borne by complete lunacy- not to mention reckless for both sides of the equation.
My post to you was obviously a failed attempt at taking a shot at religion. If you want to believe in Santa then go ahead and believe in Santa. Don't push Santa on people that are grounded in reality (like the island inhabitants).
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Not right for sure but it's how it is sadly.
I am very curious about this tribe, I wish there can be some more non violent contact without the risk of disease being spread to the island.
Thank you, it feels like it would be almost like time travel to see their way of life. I understand your curiosity, something tells me they are not so Interested in us as we are in them.
There are a lot of 'bad hombres' on that island.
The first thing you'll read about this tribe or similiar ones is the danger of disease and how we have wiped many of them them out before in history from us forcing our diseases on them.
So there is no chance he would know of them, and how to reach them -- without knowing this.
His disgusting Christian missrionary-bullshit trumped the risk of mass murder.
There is nothing naive about it.
I don't think he was thinking about the eventual risks of diseases, as he probably wasn't feeling sick.
As I said before I think it was terrible wrong of him to go there.
(If we wouldn't have Christian missionaries like Ansgar coming over to Scandinavia about 1000 years ago maybe we still would believe in Tor, Oden, Freja
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Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.
Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.
As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
At least he could understand he did wrong, I found this he had sai;
about when they took people from the island the adults became sick and died and the children were returned.
“We cannot be said to have done anything more than increase their general terror of, and hostility to, all comers,” Mr. Portman wrote in his 1899 book.
It's one thing to believe in God and go to church sometimes, but this guy was on another level and I do think everyone on that level has mental issues. The same way addicts and conspiracy theorists have mental issues. He thought God was directly interceding in his life so he could save these people.
If you take something so far that you tip into delusion and lose the ability to discern reality, then you've got mental issues.
The guy was an imbecile. He felt like he was going to save these people? Like they were lost on their island and godless (destined for Hell)? How f**king arrogant... and borne by complete lunacy- not to mention reckless for both sides of the equation.
My post to you was obviously a failed attempt at taking a shot at religion. If you want to believe in Santa then go ahead and believe in Santa. Don't push Santa on people that are grounded in reality (like the island inhabitants).