US Christian Missionary endanger the lives of inhabitants on isolated Indian island

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  • Jason P said:
    what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states?  they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.

    Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.

    Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.

    As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
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    That was fascinating. Very informative and video. That Portman guy had issues and the picture of him sitting amidst the tribe in his chair is disturbing. No wonder they don't trust strangers. It was really cool when someone was the child of the air lifters and solved the mystery of what the boat was carrying. They just want to be left alone. It's not a difficult thing to do. They don't need a bible. Coconuts, evidently are a big hit, though. Thanks! 
  • Annafalk
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    Why some people can't show respect towards other civilizations is very disturbing.

     At least he could understand he did wrong, I found this he had sai;
    about when they took people from the island the adults became sick and died and the children were returned.

    “We cannot be said to have done anything more than increase their general terror of, and hostility to, all comers,” Mr. Portman wrote in his 1899 book.

  • Thoughts_Arrive
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    He died doing what he loved I suppose lol
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    edited November 2018
    Jason P said:
    what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states?  they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.

    Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.

    Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.

    As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
    Having your own weird ego-trip of saving savages with a religion that has killed so many before trump the dangers you know you pose to them might not be clinically mental issues - but it's fucking disgusting.
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  • my2hands
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    Wth does Trump have to do with this? Lol
  • Jason P
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    Jason P said:
    what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states?  they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.

    Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.

    Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.

    As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
    I'm not saying faith is a mental issue.  Going to an island where people are known to shoot you with arrows is a mental condition.  He could have been going there for faith or to tell them his favorite color is green or that the new Star Wars movies are awesome when you see them in the theaters but upon repeated viewings you begin to notice massive plot holes ... the underlying notion of going to death island or dinosaur island or zombie island is not the option of sane cognitive thinking.
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  • rgambs
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    Jason P said:
    what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states?  they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.

    Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.

    Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.

    As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
    I dunno...
    It's one thing to believe in God and go to church sometimes, but this guy was on another level and I do think everyone on that level has mental issues.  The same way addicts and conspiracy theorists have mental issues.  He thought God was directly interceding in his life so he could save these people.
    If you take something so far that you tip into delusion and lose the ability to discern reality, then you've got mental issues.
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  • Jason P said:
    Jason P said:
    what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states?  they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.

    Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.

    Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.

    As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
    I'm not saying faith is a mental issue.  Going to an island where people are known to shoot you with arrows is a mental condition.  He could have been going there for faith or to tell them his favorite color is green or that the new Star Wars movies are awesome when you see them in the theaters but upon repeated viewings you begin to notice massive plot holes ... the underlying notion of going to death island or dinosaur island or zombie island is not the option of sane cognitive thinking.

    The guy was an imbecile. He felt like he was going to save these people? Like they were lost on their island and godless (destined for Hell)? How f**king arrogant... and borne by complete lunacy- not to mention reckless for both sides of the equation.

    My post to you was obviously a failed attempt at taking a shot at religion. If you want to believe in Santa then go ahead and believe in Santa. Don't push Santa on people that are grounded in reality (like the island inhabitants). 
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  • josevolution
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    That’s the problem I have with religious people/groups they can’t just worship for themselves, but they wanna push their beliefs onto others it’s absurd ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • And now the police are trying to do their thing:

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/police-face-off-with-tribe-in-missionary-killing/ar-BBQ4sQE?li=AAggNb9&ocid=edgsp

    I love the religious groups insisting on prosecuting the people. Just leave them alone for f**ks sakes.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    very interesting (https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-face-off-tribe-missionary-killing-072520441.html):

    The Sentinelese normally attack anyone who goes to the island and Pathak said police are monitoring to see if there is a repeat of an incident after two fishermen who strayed onto the island were killed in 2006.

    One week after their deaths, the bodies of the two Indians were hooked on bamboo stakes facing out to sea. 

    "It was a kind of scarecrow," Pathak said.

    "We are studying the 2006 case. We are asking anthropologists what they do when they kill an outsider," the police chief added. "We are trying to understand the group psychology."

    Though Chau's death is officially a murder case, anthropologists say it may be impossible to retrieve the American's body and that no charges will be made against the protected tribe.

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Stand your ground!
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    Jason P said:
    Jason P said:
    what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states?  they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.

    Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.

    Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.

    As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
    I'm not saying faith is a mental issue.  Going to an island where people are known to shoot you with arrows is a mental condition.  He could have been going there for faith or to tell them his favorite color is green or that the new Star Wars movies are awesome when you see them in the theaters but upon repeated viewings you begin to notice massive plot holes ... the underlying notion of going to death island or dinosaur island or zombie island is not the option of sane cognitive thinking.

    The guy was an imbecile. He felt like he was going to save these people? Like they were lost on their island and godless (destined for Hell)? How f**king arrogant... and borne by complete lunacy- not to mention reckless for both sides of the equation.

    My post to you was obviously a failed attempt at taking a shot at religion. If you want to believe in Santa then go ahead and believe in Santa. Don't push Santa on people that are grounded in reality (like the island inhabitants). 
    Of the 8.4 billion (in 2015) people on earth only 1.2 billion do not affiliate with a religion. So perhaps insulting them by comparing God to Santa isn’t a great thing to do?
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  • my2hands said:
    This is a perfect example of "shit white people do"... dude paddled up with a bible & cross lol

    Lol, you managed to be a bigot and make a racist statement. I’m glad we get to read everyone’s real thoughts on immigration. 
  • That’s the problem I have with religious people/groups they can’t just worship for themselves, but they wanna push their beliefs onto others it’s absurd ...
    If someone tells you about a documentary or book they read and bring it to you to offer for you to read or watch would you consider that pushing you to reading or watching it? People trying to present you with a bible or talking about God isn’t pushing as long as they’re not threatening or berating you. God won’t force you to believe. That’s your choice. 
  • Jason P said:
    Jason P said:
    what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states?  they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.

    Quit calling people of the faith people with mental issues.

    Yah yah... they seem kinda weird believing in fairy tales, but I'm not sure that qualifies them as 'mental'.

    As for the fishermen... I agree with you for what you're getting at.
    I'm not saying faith is a mental issue.  Going to an island where people are known to shoot you with arrows is a mental condition.  He could have been going there for faith or to tell them his favorite color is green or that the new Star Wars movies are awesome when you see them in the theaters but upon repeated viewings you begin to notice massive plot holes ... the underlying notion of going to death island or dinosaur island or zombie island is not the option of sane cognitive thinking.

    The guy was an imbecile. He felt like he was going to save these people? Like they were lost on their island and godless (destined for Hell)? How f**king arrogant... and borne by complete lunacy- not to mention reckless for both sides of the equation.

    My post to you was obviously a failed attempt at taking a shot at religion. If you want to believe in Santa then go ahead and believe in Santa. Don't push Santa on people that are grounded in reality (like the island inhabitants). 
    Of the 8.4 billion (in 2015) people on earth only 1.2 billion do not affiliate with a religion. So perhaps insulting them by comparing God to Santa isn’t a great thing to do?

    Maybe.

    Or maybe it reveals how far we still have to go before we fully evolve? When we think an eclipse is a sign from God... or even that a God exists for that matter... it's not really a wonder why mankind is void of critical thought. 
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  • That’s the problem I have with religious people/groups they can’t just worship for themselves, but they wanna push their beliefs onto others it’s absurd ...
    If someone tells you about a documentary or book they read and bring it to you to offer for you to read or watch would you consider that pushing you to reading or watching it? People trying to present you with a bible or talking about God isn’t pushing as long as they’re not threatening or berating you. God won’t force you to believe. That’s your choice. 

    Lol

    Knocking on people's door and spreading the word is pushing your beliefs. And sorry... but so is paddling to a hostile island that wants nothing to do with outsiders.

    Thanks for trying to help us halfwits, but we're okay. We really are. You can have the last laugh when you are running around Heaven in white robes and high fiving Jesus while we labour in fire.
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