The Concept of God

brianlux

tbergs said:

Even if I'm wrong, I hope there's at least some sort of difference after death for those who are morally empty skin suits. Looking at you Trump cabinet! If nothing matters then this world should disappear.

Maybe this:  All thoughts emanate from our bodies as waves of energy (scientific fact).  Maybe the bad thoughts have a negative energy (wild ass-guess) and maybe that negative energy gets sucked into black holes (scientific wild-ass guess).  If so, then assuming evil people have more bad thoughts than good, most of their energy will be vacuumed up and placed in the Universe's dumpster while the good energy circulates joyously through the marvelous blue empyrean.

amethgr8

Very interesting read, different points of view.  Thank you all, for your contribution.

Its a fact that some countries and their populations are never exposed to the idea of God as in Christianity, they have no idea.  Are they just out of luck being born in the "wrong" country, what does the Bible say about them and not believing in God.

amy

RYME

brianlux said:

tbergs said:

Even if I'm wrong, I hope there's at least some sort of difference after death for those who are morally empty skin suits. Looking at you Trump cabinet! If nothing matters then this world should disappear.

Maybe this:  All thoughts emanate from our bodies as waves of energy (scientific fact).  Maybe the bad thoughts have a negative energy (wild ass-guess) and maybe that negative energy gets sucked into black holes (scientific wild-ass guess).  If so, then assuming evil people have more bad thoughts than good, most of their energy will be vacuumed up and placed in the Universe's dumpster while the good energy circulates joyously through the marvelous blue empyrean.

You can have as many wild ass gusses as you want.  Until the pinball machine that you are playing says "GAME OVER"

tbergs

RYME said:

brianlux said:

tbergs said:

Even if I'm wrong, I hope there's at least some sort of difference after death for those who are morally empty skin suits. Looking at you Trump cabinet! If nothing matters then this world should disappear.

Maybe this:  All thoughts emanate from our bodies as waves of energy (scientific fact).  Maybe the bad thoughts have a negative energy (wild ass-guess) and maybe that negative energy gets sucked into black holes (scientific wild-ass guess).  If so, then assuming evil people have more bad thoughts than good, most of their energy will be vacuumed up and placed in the Universe's dumpster while the good energy circulates joyously through the marvelous blue empyrean.

You can have as many wild ass gusses as you want.  Until the pinball machine that you are playing says "GAME OVER"

What if I'm the pinball wizard

FoxyRedLa

amethgr8 said:

Very interesting read, different points of view.  Thank you all, for your contribution.

Its a fact that some countries and their populations are never exposed to the idea of God as in Christianity, they have no idea.  Are they just out of luck being born in the "wrong" country, what does the Bible say about them and not believing in God.

amy

The Bible indicates we instinctively know of Him. That He is just. 

PJfanwillneverleave1

FoxyRedLa said:

amethgr8 said:

Very interesting read, different points of view.  Thank you all, for your contribution.

Its a fact that some countries and their populations are never exposed to the idea of God as in Christianity, they have no idea.  Are they just out of luck being born in the "wrong" country, what does the Bible say about them and not believing in God.

amy

The Bible indicates we instinctively know of Him. That He is just. 

Funny thing is I instinctively have flighted all my life from the bible instead of fighting it due to arguments such as this.
Foxy, you are slowly becoming troll status in this thread.

tbergs

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

FoxyRedLa said:

amethgr8 said:

Very interesting read, different points of view.  Thank you all, for your contribution.

Its a fact that some countries and their populations are never exposed to the idea of God as in Christianity, they have no idea.  Are they just out of luck being born in the "wrong" country, what does the Bible say about them and not believing in God.

amy

The Bible indicates we instinctively know of Him. That He is just. 

Funny thing is I instinctively have flighted all my life from the bible instead of fighting it due to arguments such as this.
Foxy, you are slowly becoming troll status in this thread.

MacLeod, there can be only one and you are it.

Smellyman

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

FoxyRedLa said:

amethgr8 said:

Very interesting read, different points of view.  Thank you all, for your contribution.

Its a fact that some countries and their populations are never exposed to the idea of God as in Christianity, they have no idea.  Are they just out of luck being born in the "wrong" country, what does the Bible say about them and not believing in God.

amy

The Bible indicates we instinctively know of Him. That He is just. 

Funny thing is I instinctively have flighted all my life from the bible instead of fighting it due to arguments such as this.
Foxy, you are slowly becoming troll status in this thread.

Ha!

brianlux

RYME said:

brianlux said:

tbergs said:

Even if I'm wrong, I hope there's at least some sort of difference after death for those who are morally empty skin suits. Looking at you Trump cabinet! If nothing matters then this world should disappear.

Maybe this:  All thoughts emanate from our bodies as waves of energy (scientific fact).  Maybe the bad thoughts have a negative energy (wild ass-guess) and maybe that negative energy gets sucked into black holes (scientific wild-ass guess).  If so, then assuming evil people have more bad thoughts than good, most of their energy will be vacuumed up and placed in the Universe's dumpster while the good energy circulates joyously through the marvelous blue empyrean.

You can have as many wild ass gusses as you want.  Until the pinball machine that you are playing says "GAME OVER"

"I'm still living the dream we had
For me it's not over"
-Neil Young.

rgambs

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

FoxyRedLa said:

amethgr8 said:

Very interesting read, different points of view.  Thank you all, for your contribution.

Its a fact that some countries and their populations are never exposed to the idea of God as in Christianity, they have no idea.  Are they just out of luck being born in the "wrong" country, what does the Bible say about them and not believing in God.

amy

The Bible indicates we instinctively know of Him. That He is just. 

Funny thing is I instinctively have flighted all my life from the bible instead of fighting it due to arguments such as this.
Foxy, you are slowly becoming troll status in this thread.

Sincerely held opinions expressed sincerely are not trolling, you know that.

FoxyRedLa

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

FoxyRedLa said:

amethgr8 said:

Very interesting read, different points of view.  Thank you all, for your contribution.

Its a fact that some countries and their populations are never exposed to the idea of God as in Christianity, they have no idea.  Are they just out of luck being born in the "wrong" country, what does the Bible say about them and not believing in God.

amy

The Bible indicates we instinctively know of Him. That He is just. 

Funny thing is I instinctively have flighted all my life from the bible instead of fighting it due to arguments such as this.
Foxy, you are slowly becoming troll status in this thread.

Did you not like my answer? Want more words? I can elaborate. 

brianlux

I instinctively flight from anything de regueur, trendy and cult-like and to my way of thinking, all fundamentalist religions are cult-like.  In fact, I sometimes wonder what the fine line is between a religion and a cult.  Maybe just something as subtle as delivery?

Annafalk

brianlux said:

I instinctively flight from anything de regueur, trendy and cult-like and to my way of thinking, all fundamentalist religions are cult-like.  In fact, I sometimes wonder what the fine line is between a religion and a cult.  Maybe just something as subtle as delivery?

I think this is very understandable.

rgambs

brianlux said:

I instinctively flight from anything de regueur, trendy and cult-like and to my way of thinking, all fundamentalist religions are cult-like.  In fact, I sometimes wonder what the fine line is between a religion and a cult.  Maybe just something as subtle as delivery?

Number of adherents is the obvious difference, and number of leaders.  Once you have more than a handful of people leading the same mass delusion, you are a religion, while it's just one person leading a mass delusion, it's a cult.

Just watched a documentary on the Buddhafield cult that originated in Socal and moved to Austin, TX.
It was called Holy Hell.  A pretty benign cult compared to some others, but cuckoo!

I challenge any believers who have felt that Holy Spirit to watch it and you will see how non-believers see you.  You will probably pass them off as lunatics, but if you are truly honest with yourself, you will see the deep running similarities to Christianity and the shared delusions of it's followers.

Annafalk

No one is forced to share their thoughts and beliefs. 

RYME

amethgr8 said:

Very interesting read, different points of view.  Thank you all, for your contribution.

Its a fact that some countries and their populations are never exposed to the idea of God as in Christianity, they have no idea.  Are they just out of luck being born in the "wrong" country, what does the Bible say about them and not believing in God.

amy

You ask a great question Amy.  If you come from a place where Christianity is not taught, no you are not out of luck.
Many nasty self-proclaimed Christian preachers teach that if you don't believe in Jesus at the time of your death you go straight to hell. That my friends just is not biblical.  Hell has been mistaught and misrepresented as long as there have been twisted preachers.  Hell won't even exist until after the millennium.  And even then, it's not frying like a piece of bacon for all eternity.  That's wrong to.  
 Also there are many Christian churches that don't actually teach the truth.  In any  case if you have not had a fair opportunity to learn the truth or if you've been brought up in a way that bashes christians left and right to the point that you don't know what to believe.   There will be an opportunity.
There is a 1000 year period called The Lord's Day, or Millennium.  During that time all who never got to hear the truth about our Father, or have been mislead will have a chance.  1000 years to make up their mind.  So to say that they don't get a fair chance would be an understatement.  If after that 1000 year period, if you still reject the Lord, you are done it's not going down the escalator to hell as you may have seen on some cartoons.  Blotted out is the correct term.  A state of nonexistence.  At the end of the millennium is when judgement day occurs.  It is Payday for those who choose to follow our Father.  It is bye bye for those who don't.
The millennium starts the day Jesus Christ returns.  He is coming back but not as a baby and not to be crucified again. He is coming back as king of kings and Lord of lords.
 The great thing about this time
(the millennium) period is that satin will be locked in an abiss where by his evil spirit won't even be able to roam around and interfere like he does now.  You know all the confusion, deseption pain and suffering is due to none other than satin.  (his day is coming you can be sure of. )
Remember Jesus comes back at the 7th Trump not the 6th.
Don't be deceved by satin.
666 means sixth trump sixth seal and sixth vile hence satin's number.  Satin comes defacto at the 6th trump.
Christ returns at the 7th trump.
Trump (trumpet)-call to action.
Seal- knowledge or lack thereof depending on what you know or don't know.
Vile-where the rubber meets the road, (action)
777 is Jesus number.
This is when Christ returns.  It's gonna be an awesome day.  And it's not that far off.
Seventh trump seventh seal and seventh vile. Chronologically a few things have to happen yet but things are moving right along.  I'd like to share with you a lot more but this forum might not be the place to do it.  My info comes from the Bible.
Primarily for what I've mentioned above,
Mark, Luke, Peter 1&2, (Ezekiel chapter 40 to the end of that book describes the Millennium age. There is more prophecy about the Millennium age in the Book of Ezekiel than even the Book of Revelation. Revelations where you get your chronological events pertaining to the trumpets Satan's return and Jesus return I know this was long but I was trying to answer your question as best I could.

Gern Blansten

amethgr8 said:

Very interesting read, different points of view.  Thank you all, for your contribution.

Its a fact that some countries and their populations are never exposed to the idea of God as in Christianity, they have no idea.  Are they just out of luck being born in the "wrong" country, what does the Bible say about them and not believing in God.

amy

Yes.   Just like a child that is born to an atheist family....out of luck.  Consider a scenario where a child in an atheist family dies in childhood due to a horrible disease....they would have had no opportunity to learn about Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc.

Gern Blansten

RYME said:

amethgr8 said:

Very interesting read, different points of view.  Thank you all, for your contribution.

Its a fact that some countries and their populations are never exposed to the idea of God as in Christianity, they have no idea.  Are they just out of luck being born in the "wrong" country, what does the Bible say about them and not believing in God.

amy

You ask a great question Amy.  If you come from a place where Christianity is not taught, no you are not out of luck.
Many nasty self-proclaimed Christian preachers teach that if you don't believe in Jesus at the time of your death you go straight to hell. That my friends just is not biblical.  Hell has been mistaught and misrepresented as long as there have been twisted preachers.  Hell won't even exist until after the millennium.  And even then, it's not frying like a piece of bacon for all eternity.  That's wrong to.  
 Also there are many Christian churches that don't actually teach the truth.  In any  case if you have not had a fair opportunity to learn the truth or if you've been brought up in a way that bashes christians left and right to the point that you don't know what to believe.   There will be an opportunity.
There is a 1000 year period called The Lord's Day, or Millennium.  During that time all who never got to hear the truth about our Father, or have been mislead will have a chance.  1000 years to make up their mind.  So to say that they don't get a fair chance would be an understatement.  If after that 1000 year period, if you still reject the Lord, you are done it's not going down the escalator to hell as you may have seen on some cartoons.  Blotted out is the correct term.  A state of nonexistence.  At the end of the millennium is when judgement day occurs.  It is Payday for those who choose to follow our Father.  It is bye bye for those who don't.
The millennium starts the day Jesus Christ returns.  He is coming back but not as a baby and not to be crucified again. He is coming back as king of kings and Lord of lords.
 The great thing about this time
(the millennium) period is that satin will be locked in an abiss where by his evil spirit won't even be able to roam around and interfere like he does now.  You know all the confusion, deseption pain and suffering is due to none other than satin.  (his day is coming you can be sure of. )
Remember Jesus comes back at the 7th Trump not the 6th.
Don't be deceved by satin.
666 means sixth trump sixth seal and sixth vile hence satin's number.  Satin comes defacto at the 6th trump.
Christ returns at the 7th trump.
Trump (trumpet)-call to action.
Seal- knowledge or lack thereof depending on what you know or don't know.
Vile-where the rubber meets the road, (action)
777 is Jesus number.
This is when Christ returns.  It's gonna be an awesome day.  And it's not that far off.
Seventh trump seventh seal and seventh vile. Chronologically a few things have to happen yet but things are moving right along.  I'd like to share with you a lot more but this forum might not be the place to do it.  My info comes from the Bible.
Primarily for what I've mentioned above,
Mark, Luke, Peter 1&2, (Ezekiel chapter 40 to the end of that book describes the Millennium age. There is more prophecy about the Millennium age in the Book of Ezekiel than even the Book of Revelation. Revelations where you get your chronological events pertaining to the trumpets Satan's return and Jesus return I know this was long but I was trying to answer your question as best I could.

What evidence do you have that "it's not that far off"?

rgambs

RYME said:

amethgr8 said:

Very interesting read, different points of view.  Thank you all, for your contribution.

Its a fact that some countries and their populations are never exposed to the idea of God as in Christianity, they have no idea.  Are they just out of luck being born in the "wrong" country, what does the Bible say about them and not believing in God.

amy

You ask a great question Amy.  If you come from a place where Christianity is not taught, no you are not out of luck.
Many nasty self-proclaimed Christian preachers teach that if you don't believe in Jesus at the time of your death you go straight to hell. That my friends just is not biblical.  Hell has been mistaught and misrepresented as long as there have been twisted preachers.  Hell won't even exist until after the millennium.  And even then, it's not frying like a piece of bacon for all eternity.  That's wrong to.  
 Also there are many Christian churches that don't actually teach the truth.  In any  case if you have not had a fair opportunity to learn the truth or if you've been brought up in a way that bashes christians left and right to the point that you don't know what to believe.   There will be an opportunity.
There is a 1000 year period called The Lord's Day, or Millennium.  During that time all who never got to hear the truth about our Father, or have been mislead will have a chance.  1000 years to make up their mind.  So to say that they don't get a fair chance would be an understatement.  If after that 1000 year period, if you still reject the Lord, you are done it's not going down the escalator to hell as you may have seen on some cartoons.  Blotted out is the correct term.  A state of nonexistence.  At the end of the millennium is when judgement day occurs.  It is Payday for those who choose to follow our Father.  It is bye bye for those who don't.
The millennium starts the day Jesus Christ returns.  He is coming back but not as a baby and not to be crucified again. He is coming back as king of kings and Lord of lords.
 The great thing about this time
(the millennium) period is that satin will be locked in an abiss where by his evil spirit won't even be able to roam around and interfere like he does now.  You know all the confusion, deseption pain and suffering is due to none other than satin.  (his day is coming you can be sure of. )
Remember Jesus comes back at the 7th Trump not the 6th.
Don't be deceved by satin.
666 means sixth trump sixth seal and sixth vile hence satin's number.  Satin comes defacto at the 6th trump.
Christ returns at the 7th trump.
Trump (trumpet)-call to action.
Seal- knowledge or lack thereof depending on what you know or don't know.
Vile-where the rubber meets the road, (action)
777 is Jesus number.
This is when Christ returns.  It's gonna be an awesome day.  And it's not that far off.
Seventh trump seventh seal and seventh vile. Chronologically a few things have to happen yet but things are moving right along.  I'd like to share with you a lot more but this forum might not be the place to do it.  My info comes from the Bible.
Primarily for what I've mentioned above,
Mark, Luke, Peter 1&2, (Ezekiel chapter 40 to the end of that book describes the Millennium age. There is more prophecy about the Millennium age in the Book of Ezekiel than even the Book of Revelation. Revelations where you get your chronological events pertaining to the trumpets Satan's return and Jesus return I know this was long but I was trying to answer your question as best I could.

I am pretty sure that you have some Milton and Dante mixed in there.

jeffbr

rgambs said:

RYME said:

amethgr8 said:

Very interesting read, different points of view.  Thank you all, for your contribution.

Its a fact that some countries and their populations are never exposed to the idea of God as in Christianity, they have no idea.  Are they just out of luck being born in the "wrong" country, what does the Bible say about them and not believing in God.

amy

You ask a great question Amy.  If you come from a place where Christianity is not taught, no you are not out of luck.
Many nasty self-proclaimed Christian preachers teach that if you don't believe in Jesus at the time of your death you go straight to hell. That my friends just is not biblical.  Hell has been mistaught and misrepresented as long as there have been twisted preachers.  Hell won't even exist until after the millennium.  And even then, it's not frying like a piece of bacon for all eternity.  That's wrong to.  
 Also there are many Christian churches that don't actually teach the truth.  In any  case if you have not had a fair opportunity to learn the truth or if you've been brought up in a way that bashes christians left and right to the point that you don't know what to believe.   There will be an opportunity.
There is a 1000 year period called The Lord's Day, or Millennium.  During that time all who never got to hear the truth about our Father, or have been mislead will have a chance.  1000 years to make up their mind.  So to say that they don't get a fair chance would be an understatement.  If after that 1000 year period, if you still reject the Lord, you are done it's not going down the escalator to hell as you may have seen on some cartoons.  Blotted out is the correct term.  A state of nonexistence.  At the end of the millennium is when judgement day occurs.  It is Payday for those who choose to follow our Father.  It is bye bye for those who don't.
The millennium starts the day Jesus Christ returns.  He is coming back but not as a baby and not to be crucified again. He is coming back as king of kings and Lord of lords.
 The great thing about this time
(the millennium) period is that satin will be locked in an abiss where by his evil spirit won't even be able to roam around and interfere like he does now.  You know all the confusion, deseption pain and suffering is due to none other than satin.  (his day is coming you can be sure of. )
Remember Jesus comes back at the 7th Trump not the 6th.
Don't be deceved by satin.
666 means sixth trump sixth seal and sixth vile hence satin's number.  Satin comes defacto at the 6th trump.
Christ returns at the 7th trump.
Trump (trumpet)-call to action.
Seal- knowledge or lack thereof depending on what you know or don't know.
Vile-where the rubber meets the road, (action)
777 is Jesus number.
This is when Christ returns.  It's gonna be an awesome day.  And it's not that far off.
Seventh trump seventh seal and seventh vile. Chronologically a few things have to happen yet but things are moving right along.  I'd like to share with you a lot more but this forum might not be the place to do it.  My info comes from the Bible.
Primarily for what I've mentioned above,
Mark, Luke, Peter 1&2, (Ezekiel chapter 40 to the end of that book describes the Millennium age. There is more prophecy about the Millennium age in the Book of Ezekiel than even the Book of Revelation. Revelations where you get your chronological events pertaining to the trumpets Satan's return and Jesus return I know this was long but I was trying to answer your question as best I could.

I am pretty sure that you have some Milton and Dante mixed in there.

I also wonder if Satan is as lustrous and shiny as Satin.