Is America the greatest country in the world?

oftenreading

CM189191 said:

lastexitlondon said:

This thread is awesome.

Yes, but is it the greatest thread in the world?

Halts maul. 

HughFreakingDillon

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

my bad on the our and are del! I m heading to the gym, ran two miles yesterday and am going for chest/biceps today.  I gotta get big just in case all you Canadians decide to jump me at the next pj show!

Don't you worry, Scruffy... I'll protect you!

And hey... we're just busting your balls, buddy. I'll admit to implying some things with the jabs, but we're not trying to hurt your feelings.

jeez, all americans did for decades was make fun of their "slow and friendly" neighbour to the north. and now everyone's getting their panties in a bunch because we have an opinion on their politics. 

You wear panties?

only on casual fridays. 

brianlux

What is a "country" and what is "greatest"?

If a country is a land mass and greatest is a quality, then yes, America is right up there.  We have a marvelous diversity of landscape that includes several marvels from the massive wall of granite known as El Capitan in Yosemite to the dramatic layered rock of Badlands South Dakota to the sheer beauty of Maine's Acadia Nation Park.   The list could go on and on.

If a country is a national group of people and greatest is a quantity, we might be seen as lacking a bit.  For all our wealth, our educational system is not nearly as successful as it could be.  We don't have the greatest number of people but we used and abuse the greatest quantity of natural resources and energy.  Our potential is huge and yet our wisdom in applying that potential is often lacking and seems to be waning.

In other words, we could be viewed as both the best and the worst.

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

At dying? Maybe.

http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf

No mas. No mas.

Okay okay. You win. You're the best at dying and killing each other with your toys.

What a braggart.

I honestly think Canadians are super jealous of the us since all you do is ridicule and complain about it. 

We're bullies.

Just think how we'd be if we could go purchase AR15s and go to McDonalds with them!

We'd be badass bullies. @PJ_Soul would have a rhinestone one and smirk when she gets her mugshot taken.

I keep this under my pillow!

PJ_Soul

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

At dying? Maybe.

http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf

No mas. No mas.

Okay okay. You win. You're the best at dying and killing each other with your toys.

What a braggart.

I honestly think Canadians are super jealous of the us since all you do is ridicule and complain about it. 

you honestly believe that? that we are jealous of the US? of what exactly? our cultures are incredibly similar, except for the political divisiveness and the violence. 

is it not allowed to be outraged and baffled at the senseless violence towards other humans and shake our collective heads at why the leaders of your country refuse to address it? THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. I guess if it doesn't happen in canada, we aren't allowed to react to it. 

unfortunately, I've been noticing a bleed towards the north of the political divisiveness. I hope it doesn't get worse. 

I don't know what you guys are jealous at but it is a constant bombardment on how bad the US is.  It gets old.  And it just isn't gun violence it is everything.  Our election process, how we eat, how fat we are, how are pizza is inferior, etc.

This reminds me of the inevitable comments from women who act like total cows going around accusing all other women of being jealous, when is fact all other women just can't stand her because of her rotten personality. Suggesting we're jealous is just dumb. What we are is concerned and frustrated. Americans keep forgetting just how much what happens in America affects us. It affects us A LOT! They also tend to underestimate just how connected we are to and how knowledgeable we are about America and what goes on there. I know it's not at all a two-way street, so maybe that's hard to understand from your perspective?

Come on McGruff. Think about the thread topics. The Canadians here are just as on topic and their opinions are just as relevant as anyone else's. If there was a thread about "Things that are great about America" I'm sure we'd have plenty to say about that too. But all the threads are about Trump, American politics, American violence and crime... Of COURSE we've got a lot of bad shit to say when those are the subjects at hand. If you don't think that's reasonable maybe you need a reality check.

rgambs

"You're just jealous" is what a loser says when they can't face their flaws or defend themselves.

my2hands

America is the 3rd largest country on planet earth with about 325 million people living here... below is the list of the 20 most populated countries.... out of the 20 largest countries on planet earth I see only three that I would like to live in... USA, Japan, and Germany... again, we have 200 MILLION more people here than Japan and 4 times the population of Germany... for a country that is so large, with such a diverse population, and a diverse culture, I think we are doing pretty fucking good.... as you can see, the globe can be a shit place and the vast majority of the worlds population lives in questionable countries at best, dare I say "shitholes"... show me a country in the top 9 of population that is doing it better, that you would prefer to live in, Nigeria maybe? how bout India? Bangladesh is hopping! How bout Putin on The Ritz? Canada has 36 million people, which is 3 million less than California alone... Sweden has 9 million and would be only our 12th biggest state, just behind New Jersey lol... Sweden is so white it doesn't even keep track of racial demographics... and now the influx of immigrants has caused a spike in your crime and has charged the politics which hard line right wingers making strides... and Canada has a black population of 2.5% and even less of a Hispanic population... your idea of diversity is white people with different European backgrounds... America has problems, of course, what country of 325 million wouldn't and doesn't? show me a country of 150+ million that is doing it better? some people sure have a guarded and naïve view of the world.... so feel free to continue to point your judgmental stereotyping finger, parrot what the media wants you to believe about this beautiful country, I don't give AF, just don't be upset when I call bullshit. I heard Pakistan is nice in the spring

1	China	1,379,302,784
2	India	1,281,935,872
3	United States	326,625,792
4	Indonesia	260,580,736
5	Brazil	207,353,392
6	Pakistan	204,924,864
7	Nigeria	190,632,256
8	Bangladesh	157,826,576
9	Russia	142,257,520
10	Japan	126,451,400
11	Mexico	124,574,792
12	Ethiopia	105,350,016
13	Philippines	104,256,080
14	Egypt	97,041,072
15	Vietnam	96,160,160
16	Congo, Democratic Republic of the	83,301,152
17	Iran	82,021,568
18	Turkey	80,845,216
19	Germany	80,594,016
20	Thailand	68,414,136

PJ_Soul

Yeah, everyone already knows those things. Do you think it changes anything? And are you really quoting Trump's shithole remark? Anyway, if it makes you feel better to compare America to third world and totalitarian nations, then have at it, and rest easy. I guess I'm glad you're very proud of you country for not being a total shithole. I'm very glad it's not too.

FWIW, I often dreamed of living in New York or Washington - so much about part of America appealed to me (and still do for the same reasons). But then the GOP went crazy and gets worse everyday, the biggest piece of shit asshole motherfucker within its borders was elected to desecrate the White House and crap all over environmental protections, all the racists started crawling out of the woodwork as their leader emboldened them, the free press started being threatened on a constant basis, xenophobia and racist propaganda became a government mandate, the government started lying about, well, literally everything, abortion rights came under real threat, and the country's gun fetish was freshly highlighted. That's when the idea of living there became a non-option, at least until it works its shit out.

HughFreakingDillon

my2hands said:

America is the 3rd largest country on planet earth with about 325 million people living here... below is the list of the 20 most populated countries.... out of the 20 largest countries on planet earth I see only three that I would like to live in... USA, Japan, and Germany... again, we have 200 MILLION more people here than Japan and 4 times the population of Germany... for a country that is so large, with such a diverse population, and a diverse culture, I think we are doing pretty fucking good.... as you can see, the globe can be a shit place and the vast majority of the worlds population lives in questionable countries at best, dare I say "shitholes"... show me a country in the top 9 of population that is doing it better, that you would prefer to live in, Nigeria maybe? how bout India? Bangladesh is hopping! How bout Putin on The Ritz? Canada has 36 million people, which is 3 million less than California alone... Sweden has 9 million and would be only our 12th biggest state, just behind New Jersey lol... Sweden is so white it doesn't even keep track of racial demographics... and now the influx of immigrants has caused a spike in your crime and has charged the politics which hard line right wingers making strides... and Canada has a black population of 2.5% and even less of a Hispanic population... your idea of diversity is white people with different European backgrounds... America has problems, of course, what country of 325 million wouldn't and doesn't? show me a country of 150+ million that is doing it better? some people sure have a guarded and naïve view of the world.... so feel free to continue to point your judgmental stereotyping finger, parrot what the media wants you to believe about this beautiful country, I don't give AF, just don't be upset when I call bullshit. I heard Pakistan is nice in the spring

1	China	1,379,302,784
2	India	1,281,935,872
3	United States	326,625,792
4	Indonesia	260,580,736
5	Brazil	207,353,392
6	Pakistan	204,924,864
7	Nigeria	190,632,256
8	Bangladesh	157,826,576
9	Russia	142,257,520
10	Japan	126,451,400
11	Mexico	124,574,792
12	Ethiopia	105,350,016
13	Philippines	104,256,080
14	Egypt	97,041,072
15	Vietnam	96,160,160
16	Congo, Democratic Republic of the	83,301,152
17	Iran	82,021,568
18	Turkey	80,845,216
19	Germany	80,594,016
20	Thailand	68,414,136

keep trying to offend people by telling us you don't care if we're offended. it's such a pathetically troll thing to do.  

OnWis97

I fail to see how the smaller populations of Canada, Sweden, etc. render them lesser places than the US.

PJ_Soul

OnWis97 said:

I fail to see how the smaller populations of Canada, Sweden, etc. render them lesser places than the US.

A lot of people would think the opposite - the smaller the better. An overpopulated place isn't generally appealing.... But yes, the richest nation in the world manages to handle its too-large population much better than the other nations with far less wealth. That is true.

HughFreakingDillon

OnWis97 said:

I fail to see how the smaller populations of Canada, Sweden, etc. render them lesser places than the US.

it doesn't. when the US falls behind, miserably, the apologists use their go-to "but we need to compare like-populations!". 

my2hands

OnWis97 said:

I fail to see how the smaller populations of Canada, Sweden, etc. render them lesser places than the US.

the point is simple... managing large populations and maintaining a high quality of life is nearly impossible on planet earth... especially a country as diverse as America... look at the list of most the populated countries, it speaks for itself... a country this large is going to have problems, but compared to other countries our size we are a fucking utopia... poor people have I-Phones and air conditioning in this country for Christ's sake... that's amazing for a country this size

big picture, America is fucking amazing really

my2hands

PJ_Soul said:

OnWis97 said:

I fail to see how the smaller populations of Canada, Sweden, etc. render them lesser places than the US.

A lot of people would think the opposite - the smaller the better. An overpopulated place isn't generally appealing.... But yes, the richest nation in the world manages to handle its too-large population much better than the other nations with far less wealth. That is true.

you say richest nation like that is a bad thing... did that happen by accident? did America just wake up an economic superpower? did someone hand it to us? you think your comfy way of life isn't in part because you have the USA as your southern neighbor and #1 trading partner? get real

HughFreakingDillon

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

OnWis97 said:

I fail to see how the smaller populations of Canada, Sweden, etc. render them lesser places than the US.

A lot of people would think the opposite - the smaller the better. An overpopulated place isn't generally appealing.... But yes, the richest nation in the world manages to handle its too-large population much better than the other nations with far less wealth. That is true.

you say richest nation like that is a bad thing... did that happen by accident? did America just wake up an economic superpower? did someone hand it to us? you think your comfy way of life isn't in part because you have the USA as your southern neighbor and #1 trading partner? get real

yes, THANK YOU AMERICA! 

good god. 

my2hands

by the way... notice something about #9 Japan and #20 Germany.... the only other large nations I would consider upper echelon places to live on the list... American involvement, rebuilding, and support since WW2 ring any bells?

not coincidence

PJ_Soul

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

OnWis97 said:

I fail to see how the smaller populations of Canada, Sweden, etc. render them lesser places than the US.

A lot of people would think the opposite - the smaller the better. An overpopulated place isn't generally appealing.... But yes, the richest nation in the world manages to handle its too-large population much better than the other nations with far less wealth. That is true.

you say richest nation like that is a bad thing... did that happen by accident? did America just wake up an economic superpower? did someone hand it to us? you think your comfy way of life isn't in part because you have the USA as your southern neighbor and #1 trading partner? get real

How did you get that I said it as a bad thing?

And no, it sure didn't happen by accident, lol. My goodness, do you really want to get into a conversation about how America accumulated all its wealth and power throughout its history?

Okay man, I'm not sure what you're driving at here, lol. If you want us to bow down to America as though its out lord and saviour, it ain't happening. But rest assured that we know exactly how America benefits us, exactly how it harms us, exactly what it's done for and against us over time, and that is probably why we actually give a shit. Again, you fail to acknowledge that the reason we are so into the issue of America's problems right now is because we care about America, and about how America impacts us. You really don't seem to get that. You seem to think we're all just a bunch of bullies who want to pick on someone for shits and giggles. Or out of jealously, apparently, lol. It's a pretty immature perspective. Like, literally the kind of reasoning you find on a a playground.

my2hands

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

OnWis97 said:

I fail to see how the smaller populations of Canada, Sweden, etc. render them lesser places than the US.

A lot of people would think the opposite - the smaller the better. An overpopulated place isn't generally appealing.... But yes, the richest nation in the world manages to handle its too-large population much better than the other nations with far less wealth. That is true.

you say richest nation like that is a bad thing... did that happen by accident? did America just wake up an economic superpower? did someone hand it to us? you think your comfy way of life isn't in part because you have the USA as your southern neighbor and #1 trading partner? get real

How did you get that I said it as a bad thing?

And no, it sure didn't happen by accident, lol. My goodness, do you really want to get into a conversation about how America accumulated all its wealth and power throughout its history?

Okay man, I'm not sure what you're driving at here, lol. If you want us to bow down to America as though its out lord and saviour, it ain't happening. But rest assured that we know exactly how America benefits us, exactly how it harms us, exactly what it's done for and against us over time, and that is probably why we actually give a shit. Again, you fail to acknowledge that the reason we are so into the issue of America's problems right now is because we care about America, and about how America impacts us. You really don't seem to get that. You seem to think we're all just a bunch of bullies who want to pick on someone for shits and giggles. Or out of jealously, apparently, lol. It's a pretty immature perspective. Like, literally the kind of reasoning you find on a a playground.

how does America harm you? how does it impact you?

I never said anything about lord & savior... I just said stop with the nonstop bullshit stereotyping and shit talking

CM189191

my2hands said:

OnWis97 said:

I fail to see how the smaller populations of Canada, Sweden, etc. render them lesser places than the US.

the point is simple... managing large populations and maintaining a high quality of life is nearly impossible on planet earth... especially a country as diverse as America... look at the list of most the populated countries, it speaks for itself... a country this large is going to have problems, but compared to other countries our size we are a fucking utopia... poor people have I-Phones and air conditioning in this country for Christ's sake... that's amazing for a country this size

big picture, America is fucking amazing really

"America is really amazing as long as you ignore all these other countries that are much better"

What a stupid argument. 

We're behind every other modern industrialized country on every quality of living metric.

America is the shittiest house on the nicest block.

my2hands

HughFreakingDillon said:

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

OnWis97 said:

I fail to see how the smaller populations of Canada, Sweden, etc. render them lesser places than the US.

A lot of people would think the opposite - the smaller the better. An overpopulated place isn't generally appealing.... But yes, the richest nation in the world manages to handle its too-large population much better than the other nations with far less wealth. That is true.

you say richest nation like that is a bad thing... did that happen by accident? did America just wake up an economic superpower? did someone hand it to us? you think your comfy way of life isn't in part because you have the USA as your southern neighbor and #1 trading partner? get real

yes, THANK YOU AMERICA! 

good god. 

the point is simple. you massively benefit from having us as your neighbor and major trading partner, no? you need us a lot more than we need you, whether you like it or not