Is America the greatest country in the world?

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    How many other countries have a holiday just for their countries birthday.  Surely Canada and the US are not the only countries.
    Almost all have some form of national day celebrating their origin. 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/02/26/a-surprising-map-of-the-worlds-national-holidays-only-two-countries-have-no-national-day/?utm_term=.2c1567e2f1e9

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Have we agreed on the definition of "greatest" here yet?
    Not yet, still working on it.  We need to form and create committees to set the guidelines?
    Yes and I think you are just the right person to chair that committee... unless someone on the board has objections.

    No?

    OK, you're in!
    I object.
    Objection sustained.  Meltdown declined.  I hereby declare you chair, Allison!
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I would not want to be on that committee ... I already know the best country.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    I would not want to be on that committee ... I already know the best country.  
    Atlantis. I hear it was fabulous, though a little damp. 
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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959

    Meltdown99 said:
    How many other countries have a holiday just for their countries birthday.  Surely Canada and the US are not the only countries.
    I'd say probably every country celebrates their Independence Day or some other similar event.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,477
    edited November 2018
    Would the greatest country in the world have a White House (or comparable) that lies about a journalist assaulting an intern?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,265
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Would the greatest country in the world have a White House (or comparable) that lies about a journalist assaulting an intern?
    In public while the cameras and recorders rolled? Surely the police were called?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,477
    edited November 2018
    Meltdown99 said:
    I would not want to be on that committee ... I already know the best country.  
    What Nordic country? Iceland?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,977
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    I would not want to be on that committee ... I already know the best country.  
    What Nordic country? Iceland?
    North..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,265
    At dying? Maybe.

    http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    At dying? Maybe.

    http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf

    No mas. No mas.

    Okay okay. You win. You're the best at dying and killing each other with your toys.

    What a braggart.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    At dying? Maybe.

    http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf

    No mas. No mas.

    Okay okay. You win. You're the best at dying and killing each other with your toys.

    What a braggart.
    I honestly think Canadians are super jealous of the us since all you do is ridicule and complain about it. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    At dying? Maybe.

    http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf

    No mas. No mas.

    Okay okay. You win. You're the best at dying and killing each other with your toys.

    What a braggart.
    I honestly think Canadians are super jealous of the us since all you do is ridicule and complain about it. 

    We're bullies.

    Just think how we'd be if we could go purchase AR15s and go to McDonalds with them!

    We'd be badass bullies. @PJ_Soul would have a rhinestone one and smirk when she gets her mugshot taken.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    At dying? Maybe.

    http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf

    No mas. No mas.

    Okay okay. You win. You're the best at dying and killing each other with your toys.

    What a braggart.
    I honestly think Canadians are super jealous of the us since all you do is ridicule and complain about it. 

    We're bullies.

    Just think how we'd be if we could go purchase AR15s and go to McDonalds with them!

    We'd be badass bullies. @PJ_Soul would have a rhinestone one and smirk when she gets her mugshot taken.
    But ar-15's are legal in your country.  How about you ban them from your country then I'll lead the charge to ban them here.  Was an ar-15 even used last night?  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,265
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    At dying? Maybe.

    http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf

    No mas. No mas.

    Okay okay. You win. You're the best at dying and killing each other with your toys.

    What a braggart.
    I honestly think Canadians are super jealous of the us since all you do is ridicule and complain about it. 
    No, just smarter. Read the article to the end. Canada and the US were basically the same as it related to firearms up until 1964-1968 or so. Then they went on completely different paths. 300+ mass shootings in the US this year.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/29/opinion/nra-mass-shootings-pittsburgh.html
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    At dying? Maybe.

    http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf

    No mas. No mas.

    Okay okay. You win. You're the best at dying and killing each other with your toys.

    What a braggart.
    I honestly think Canadians are super jealous of the us since all you do is ridicule and complain about it. 

    We're bullies.

    Just think how we'd be if we could go purchase AR15s and go to McDonalds with them!

    We'd be badass bullies. @PJ_Soul would have a rhinestone one and smirk when she gets her mugshot taken.
    But ar-15's are legal in your country.  How about you ban them from your country then I'll lead the charge to ban them here.  Was an ar-15 even used last night?  

    Buying one of those weapons is an exhausting process. And you cannot amble down the street with your brand new assault boots and camo gear (tags still on them) to get a Whopper and a super sized Coke.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    At dying? Maybe.

    http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf

    No mas. No mas.

    Okay okay. You win. You're the best at dying and killing each other with your toys.

    What a braggart.
    I honestly think Canadians are super jealous of the us since all you do is ridicule and complain about it. 

    We're bullies.

    Just think how we'd be if we could go purchase AR15s and go to McDonalds with them!

    We'd be badass bullies. @PJ_Soul would have a rhinestone one and smirk when she gets her mugshot taken.
    But ar-15's are legal in your country.  How about you ban them from your country then I'll lead the charge to ban them here.  Was an ar-15 even used last night?  

    Buying one of those weapons is an exhausting process. And you cannot amble down the street with your brand new assault boots and camo gear (tags still on them) to get a Whopper and a super sized Coke.
    Canada has very similar gun laws to new jersey.  I would hardly say it is exhausting, rather you need to put in the work if you really want to buy one.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    At dying? Maybe.

    http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf

    No mas. No mas.

    Okay okay. You win. You're the best at dying and killing each other with your toys.

    What a braggart.
    I honestly think Canadians are super jealous of the us since all you do is ridicule and complain about it. 

    We're bullies.

    Just think how we'd be if we could go purchase AR15s and go to McDonalds with them!

    We'd be badass bullies. @PJ_Soul would have a rhinestone one and smirk when she gets her mugshot taken.
    But ar-15's are legal in your country.  How about you ban them from your country then I'll lead the charge to ban them here.  Was an ar-15 even used last night?  

    Buying one of those weapons is an exhausting process. And you cannot amble down the street with your brand new assault boots and camo gear (tags still on them) to get a Whopper and a super sized Coke.
    Canada has very similar gun laws to new jersey.  I would hardly say it is exhausting, rather you need to put in the work if you really want to buy one.  

    You kind of contradicted yourself here.

    A couple things to that:

    1. Nobody wants one.
    2. Not just anybody can buy one.
    3. The gun becomes registered.
    4. The screening process eliminates assholes from owning one.
    5. If one is ever used once in a crime like the one you guys feature on a weekly basis... the gun will be gone. And there won't be any fools saying, "From my cold, dead hands."
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,485
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    At dying? Maybe.

    http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf

    No mas. No mas.

    Okay okay. You win. You're the best at dying and killing each other with your toys.

    What a braggart.
    I honestly think Canadians are super jealous of the us since all you do is ridicule and complain about it. 
    you honestly believe that? that we are jealous of the US? of what exactly? our cultures are incredibly similar, except for the political divisiveness and the violence. 

    is it not allowed to be outraged and baffled at the senseless violence towards other humans and shake our collective heads at why the leaders of your country refuse to address it? THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. I guess if it doesn't happen in canada, we aren't allowed to react to it. 

    unfortunately, I've been noticing a bleed towards the north of the political divisiveness. I hope it doesn't get worse. 
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    At dying? Maybe.

    http://www.projecthope.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Child-Mortality-in-the-US-and-19-OECD.pdf

    No mas. No mas.

    Okay okay. You win. You're the best at dying and killing each other with your toys.

    What a braggart.
    I honestly think Canadians are super jealous of the us since all you do is ridicule and complain about it. 
    you honestly believe that? that we are jealous of the US? of what exactly? our cultures are incredibly similar, except for the political divisiveness and the violence. 

    is it not allowed to be outraged and baffled at the senseless violence towards other humans and shake our collective heads at why the leaders of your country refuse to address it? THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. I guess if it doesn't happen in canada, we aren't allowed to react to it. 

    unfortunately, I've been noticing a bleed towards the north of the political divisiveness. I hope it doesn't get worse. 

    There is a minor groundswell that I have noticed as well, Hugh. There are certain aspects of our society where many Canadians feel change is necessary (yes... 'crime and punishment' is one of them). With no talk of change and enthusiastic support... many Canadians are leaving the middle where most operate and are beginning to lean one way or another (many to the right as evidenced by the current Ontario political scene).
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