Kaepernick

PJ_Soul

rgambs said:

Degeneratefk said:

I just can't believe people give a fuck what a back up qb on a horrible team does.

He's got the right to do that. People have the right to be pjssed. Not really too much to discuss. I think Colin was a bit surprised by how his actions were perceived by the public. It came off as anti-military. I know that's not what he meant, but many people are seeing it that way. I think it may be best for him to stay in the locker room I during the national anthem. Let's be honest, is him sitting during the anthem really going to bring one ounce of awareness to black lives?

That's just because your typical American idiot is so indoctrinated in faux patriotism they can't distinguish symbols from soldiers.

Agreed.
I think this controversy is ridiculous. It's amazing to me how un-American some Americans who consider themselves patriots can be. And I'm not talking about Kaepernick. To me, it seems like most people who like to spout off about American patriotism are actually the least patriotic people on the face of the planet.

brianlux

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

Degeneratefk said:

I just can't believe people give a fuck what a back up qb on a horrible team does.

He's got the right to do that. People have the right to be pjssed. Not really too much to discuss. I think Colin was a bit surprised by how his actions were perceived by the public. It came off as anti-military. I know that's not what he meant, but many people are seeing it that way. I think it may be best for him to stay in the locker room I during the national anthem. Let's be honest, is him sitting during the anthem really going to bring one ounce of awareness to black lives?

That's just because your typical American idiot is so indoctrinated in faux patriotism they can't distinguish symbols from soldiers.

Agreed.
I think this controversy is ridiculous. It's amazing to me how un-American some Americans who consider themselves patriots can be. And I'm not talking about Kaepernick. To me, it seems like most people who like to spout off about American patriotism are actually the least patriotic people on the face of the planet.

Yes and yes. Totally agree.

pjhawks

brianlux said:

pjhawks said:

why does my gut tell me this behavior is tied to Kaepernick and others stance on the anthem and flag? i hope the ones that did this get tossed out of school when they are caught.

http://6abc.com/news/flags-crushed-trashed-at-sept-11-memorial-on-college-campus/1508065/

Why would you make such a connection? Are you sure your gut isn't just itching to stir things up here?

do you believe that these idiots would have had the balls to rip up and take out almost 3000 American flags from a 9/11 Memorial without Kaepernick having started his protest a few weeks ago? no way. if they did this without what Kaepernick started there would be no one defending their actions. no doubt in my mind it's an offshoot of it.

edit: and i don't come to stir things up. that's not something i do. i offer my opinions and if someone wants to disagree that is their prerogative. i happen to have a very strong opinion on what happened at the college 9/11 Memorial. i find their actions utterly deplorable and disgusting.

Cliffy6745

pjhawks said:

brianlux said:

pjhawks said:

why does my gut tell me this behavior is tied to Kaepernick and others stance on the anthem and flag? i hope the ones that did this get tossed out of school when they are caught.

http://6abc.com/news/flags-crushed-trashed-at-sept-11-memorial-on-college-campus/1508065/

Why would you make such a connection? Are you sure your gut isn't just itching to stir things up here?

do you believe that these idiots would have had the balls to rip up and take out almost 3000 American flags from a 9/11 Memorial without Kaepernick having started his protest a few weeks ago? no way. if they did this without what Kaepernick started there would be no one defending their actions. no doubt in my mind it's an offshoot of it.

edit: and i don't come to stir things up. that's not something i do. i offer my opinions and if someone wants to disagree that is their prerogative. i happen to have a very strong opinion on what happened at the college 9/11 Memorial. i find their actions utterly deplorable and disgusting.

Well, yes, probably but Come on man. Personal responsibility. Grow up and hold the actual people responsible for their actions rather than creating a scapegoat. You're fucking grasping at straws hard here...

mickeyrat

brianlux said:

pjhawks said:

why does my gut tell me this behavior is tied to Kaepernick and others stance on the anthem and flag? i hope the ones that did this get tossed out of school when they are caught.

http://6abc.com/news/flags-crushed-trashed-at-sept-11-memorial-on-college-campus/1508065/

Why would you make such a connection? Are you sure your gut isn't just itching to stir things up here?

since a note left included 1.4 million plus Iraqis in the memorium, I'd say no, Brian.

HesCalledDyer

pjhawks said:

brianlux said:

pjhawks said:

why does my gut tell me this behavior is tied to Kaepernick and others stance on the anthem and flag? i hope the ones that did this get tossed out of school when they are caught.

http://6abc.com/news/flags-crushed-trashed-at-sept-11-memorial-on-college-campus/1508065/

Why would you make such a connection? Are you sure your gut isn't just itching to stir things up here?

do you believe that these idiots would have had the balls to rip up and take out almost 3000 American flags from a 9/11 Memorial without Kaepernick having started his protest a few weeks ago? no way. if they did this without what Kaepernick started there would be no one defending their actions. no doubt in my mind it's an offshoot of it.

edit: and i don't come to stir things up. that's not something i do. i offer my opinions and if someone wants to disagree that is their prerogative. i happen to have a very strong opinion on what happened at the college 9/11 Memorial. i find their actions utterly deplorable and disgusting.

In these current days of social media and "me, me, me ,me" attitude, yes I do believe these idiots would have the cowardice to rip up American flags from a 9/11 memorial. It's not that far-fetched. People do worse shit on a daily basis.

eeriepadave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-zJL9JuOLQ

pjhawks

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

brianlux said:

pjhawks said:

why does my gut tell me this behavior is tied to Kaepernick and others stance on the anthem and flag? i hope the ones that did this get tossed out of school when they are caught.

http://6abc.com/news/flags-crushed-trashed-at-sept-11-memorial-on-college-campus/1508065/

Why would you make such a connection? Are you sure your gut isn't just itching to stir things up here?

do you believe that these idiots would have had the balls to rip up and take out almost 3000 American flags from a 9/11 Memorial without Kaepernick having started his protest a few weeks ago? no way. if they did this without what Kaepernick started there would be no one defending their actions. no doubt in my mind it's an offshoot of it.

edit: and i don't come to stir things up. that's not something i do. i offer my opinions and if someone wants to disagree that is their prerogative. i happen to have a very strong opinion on what happened at the college 9/11 Memorial. i find their actions utterly deplorable and disgusting.

Well, yes, probably but Come on man. Personal responsibility. Grow up and hold the actual people responsible for their actions rather than creating a scapegoat. You're fucking grasping at straws hard here...

a direct quote, albeit a very short passage from a very long original message, from the group that did this. so uhh yea...no straws

"Historically, the American flag and subsequent American nationalist symbols, have been polarizing and marginalizing to people of color living within the United States. This has been most recently exemplified in Colin Kaepernick's protest of the American national anthem."

dignin

Colin was responsible for 9/11!! Hold the press!!! I was wrong, he is a grade A asshole.

Indifference71

The funny thing about this whole situation is the pro-Kaepernick's people get all up in arms when someone disagrees with it. Trent Dilfer is getting killed because he said that it's a distraction to the team. It's pretty simple...Kaepernick has the right to protest and people have the right to not like it.

Also, could ESPN have been any more excited about the anthem last night??? I get that it's a story but jesus christ, they need to take it down a notch.

Cliffy6745

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

brianlux said:

pjhawks said:

why does my gut tell me this behavior is tied to Kaepernick and others stance on the anthem and flag? i hope the ones that did this get tossed out of school when they are caught.

http://6abc.com/news/flags-crushed-trashed-at-sept-11-memorial-on-college-campus/1508065/

Why would you make such a connection? Are you sure your gut isn't just itching to stir things up here?

do you believe that these idiots would have had the balls to rip up and take out almost 3000 American flags from a 9/11 Memorial without Kaepernick having started his protest a few weeks ago? no way. if they did this without what Kaepernick started there would be no one defending their actions. no doubt in my mind it's an offshoot of it.

edit: and i don't come to stir things up. that's not something i do. i offer my opinions and if someone wants to disagree that is their prerogative. i happen to have a very strong opinion on what happened at the college 9/11 Memorial. i find their actions utterly deplorable and disgusting.

Well, yes, probably but Come on man. Personal responsibility. Grow up and hold the actual people responsible for their actions rather than creating a scapegoat. You're fucking grasping at straws hard here...

a direct quote, albeit a very short passage from a very long original message, from the group that did this. so uhh yea...no straws

"Historically, the American flag and subsequent American nationalist symbols, have been polarizing and marginalizing to people of color living within the United States. This has been most recently exemplified in Colin Kaepernick's protest of the American national anthem."

Got it...so it's not actually the fault/responsibility of the people who carry out the act, it's the fault/responsibility of someone they have never met, spoken to or have anything remotely associated or to do with aside from a sentence they wrote...

polaris_x

too much pride to see the truth ...

g under p

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2016/09/12/adam-jones-orioles-colin-kaepernick-white-mans-sport/90260326/

Adam Jones on MLB's Orioles lack of Kaepernick protest, *baseball is a white man's sport*.

Peace

HesCalledDyer

eeriepadave said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-zJL9JuOLQ

LOL!

pjhawks

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

brianlux said:

pjhawks said:

why does my gut tell me this behavior is tied to Kaepernick and others stance on the anthem and flag? i hope the ones that did this get tossed out of school when they are caught.

http://6abc.com/news/flags-crushed-trashed-at-sept-11-memorial-on-college-campus/1508065/

Why would you make such a connection? Are you sure your gut isn't just itching to stir things up here?

do you believe that these idiots would have had the balls to rip up and take out almost 3000 American flags from a 9/11 Memorial without Kaepernick having started his protest a few weeks ago? no way. if they did this without what Kaepernick started there would be no one defending their actions. no doubt in my mind it's an offshoot of it.

edit: and i don't come to stir things up. that's not something i do. i offer my opinions and if someone wants to disagree that is their prerogative. i happen to have a very strong opinion on what happened at the college 9/11 Memorial. i find their actions utterly deplorable and disgusting.

Well, yes, probably but Come on man. Personal responsibility. Grow up and hold the actual people responsible for their actions rather than creating a scapegoat. You're fucking grasping at straws hard here...

a direct quote, albeit a very short passage from a very long original message, from the group that did this. so uhh yea...no straws

"Historically, the American flag and subsequent American nationalist symbols, have been polarizing and marginalizing to people of color living within the United States. This has been most recently exemplified in Colin Kaepernick's protest of the American national anthem."

Got it...so it's not actually the fault/responsibility of the people who carry out the act, it's the fault/responsibility of someone they have never met, spoken to or have anything remotely associated or to do with aside from a sentence they wrote...

oh no those aholes should be prosecuted for the vandalism but to say they weren't inspired by what kaepernick started is just foolish. kaepernick opened this can of worms and now idiots are running with it. not sure how you can deny that.

Cliffy6745

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

brianlux said:

pjhawks said:

why does my gut tell me this behavior is tied to Kaepernick and others stance on the anthem and flag? i hope the ones that did this get tossed out of school when they are caught.

http://6abc.com/news/flags-crushed-trashed-at-sept-11-memorial-on-college-campus/1508065/

Why would you make such a connection? Are you sure your gut isn't just itching to stir things up here?

do you believe that these idiots would have had the balls to rip up and take out almost 3000 American flags from a 9/11 Memorial without Kaepernick having started his protest a few weeks ago? no way. if they did this without what Kaepernick started there would be no one defending their actions. no doubt in my mind it's an offshoot of it.

edit: and i don't come to stir things up. that's not something i do. i offer my opinions and if someone wants to disagree that is their prerogative. i happen to have a very strong opinion on what happened at the college 9/11 Memorial. i find their actions utterly deplorable and disgusting.

Well, yes, probably but Come on man. Personal responsibility. Grow up and hold the actual people responsible for their actions rather than creating a scapegoat. You're fucking grasping at straws hard here...

a direct quote, albeit a very short passage from a very long original message, from the group that did this. so uhh yea...no straws

"Historically, the American flag and subsequent American nationalist symbols, have been polarizing and marginalizing to people of color living within the United States. This has been most recently exemplified in Colin Kaepernick's protest of the American national anthem."

Got it...so it's not actually the fault/responsibility of the people who carry out the act, it's the fault/responsibility of someone they have never met, spoken to or have anything remotely associated or to do with aside from a sentence they wrote...

oh no those aholes should be prosecuted for the vandalism but to say they weren't inspired by what kaepernick started is just foolish. kaepernick opened this can of worms and now idiots are running with it. not sure how you can deny that.

Kaepernick opened a can of worms that this country has racial issues? I had never heard of this issue before him.

pjhawks

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

brianlux said:

pjhawks said:

why does my gut tell me this behavior is tied to Kaepernick and others stance on the anthem and flag? i hope the ones that did this get tossed out of school when they are caught.

http://6abc.com/news/flags-crushed-trashed-at-sept-11-memorial-on-college-campus/1508065/

Why would you make such a connection? Are you sure your gut isn't just itching to stir things up here?

do you believe that these idiots would have had the balls to rip up and take out almost 3000 American flags from a 9/11 Memorial without Kaepernick having started his protest a few weeks ago? no way. if they did this without what Kaepernick started there would be no one defending their actions. no doubt in my mind it's an offshoot of it.

edit: and i don't come to stir things up. that's not something i do. i offer my opinions and if someone wants to disagree that is their prerogative. i happen to have a very strong opinion on what happened at the college 9/11 Memorial. i find their actions utterly deplorable and disgusting.

Well, yes, probably but Come on man. Personal responsibility. Grow up and hold the actual people responsible for their actions rather than creating a scapegoat. You're fucking grasping at straws hard here...

a direct quote, albeit a very short passage from a very long original message, from the group that did this. so uhh yea...no straws

"Historically, the American flag and subsequent American nationalist symbols, have been polarizing and marginalizing to people of color living within the United States. This has been most recently exemplified in Colin Kaepernick's protest of the American national anthem."

Got it...so it's not actually the fault/responsibility of the people who carry out the act, it's the fault/responsibility of someone they have never met, spoken to or have anything remotely associated or to do with aside from a sentence they wrote...

oh no those aholes should be prosecuted for the vandalism but to say they weren't inspired by what kaepernick started is just foolish. kaepernick opened this can of worms and now idiots are running with it. not sure how you can deny that.

Kaepernick opened a can of worms that this country has racial issues? I had never heard of this issue before him.

no he opened the can of worms of idiots doing meaningless 'look at me' protests that does absolutely nothing to help the problem. do you really think disrespecting others and/or vandalism is a way to achieve a goal?

Cliffy6745

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

brianlux said:

pjhawks said:

why does my gut tell me this behavior is tied to Kaepernick and others stance on the anthem and flag? i hope the ones that did this get tossed out of school when they are caught.

http://6abc.com/news/flags-crushed-trashed-at-sept-11-memorial-on-college-campus/1508065/

Why would you make such a connection? Are you sure your gut isn't just itching to stir things up here?

do you believe that these idiots would have had the balls to rip up and take out almost 3000 American flags from a 9/11 Memorial without Kaepernick having started his protest a few weeks ago? no way. if they did this without what Kaepernick started there would be no one defending their actions. no doubt in my mind it's an offshoot of it.

edit: and i don't come to stir things up. that's not something i do. i offer my opinions and if someone wants to disagree that is their prerogative. i happen to have a very strong opinion on what happened at the college 9/11 Memorial. i find their actions utterly deplorable and disgusting.

Well, yes, probably but Come on man. Personal responsibility. Grow up and hold the actual people responsible for their actions rather than creating a scapegoat. You're fucking grasping at straws hard here...

a direct quote, albeit a very short passage from a very long original message, from the group that did this. so uhh yea...no straws

"Historically, the American flag and subsequent American nationalist symbols, have been polarizing and marginalizing to people of color living within the United States. This has been most recently exemplified in Colin Kaepernick's protest of the American national anthem."

Got it...so it's not actually the fault/responsibility of the people who carry out the act, it's the fault/responsibility of someone they have never met, spoken to or have anything remotely associated or to do with aside from a sentence they wrote...

oh no those aholes should be prosecuted for the vandalism but to say they weren't inspired by what kaepernick started is just foolish. kaepernick opened this can of worms and now idiots are running with it. not sure how you can deny that.

Kaepernick opened a can of worms that this country has racial issues? I had never heard of this issue before him.

no he opened the can of worms of idiots doing meaningless 'look at me' protests that does absolutely nothing to help the problem. do you really think disrespecting others and/or vandalism is a way to achieve a goal?

Aside from the fact that Kaepernick hasn't disrespected anyone. If people are upset, that's their own problem. He has very clearly stated why he is doing it and there is absolutely zero disrespect in any of it. Why would anyone take a thought out position and peaceful and silent protest as a motivation to vandalize anything?

People are going to be butt hurt at any type of protest. That's kind of the point of a protest.

brianlux

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

brianlux said:

pjhawks said:

why does my gut tell me this behavior is tied to Kaepernick and others stance on the anthem and flag? i hope the ones that did this get tossed out of school when they are caught.

http://6abc.com/news/flags-crushed-trashed-at-sept-11-memorial-on-college-campus/1508065/

Why would you make such a connection? Are you sure your gut isn't just itching to stir things up here?

do you believe that these idiots would have had the balls to rip up and take out almost 3000 American flags from a 9/11 Memorial without Kaepernick having started his protest a few weeks ago? no way. if they did this without what Kaepernick started there would be no one defending their actions. no doubt in my mind it's an offshoot of it.

edit: and i don't come to stir things up. that's not something i do. i offer my opinions and if someone wants to disagree that is their prerogative. i happen to have a very strong opinion on what happened at the college 9/11 Memorial. i find their actions utterly deplorable and disgusting.

Well, yes, probably but Come on man. Personal responsibility. Grow up and hold the actual people responsible for their actions rather than creating a scapegoat. You're fucking grasping at straws hard here...

a direct quote, albeit a very short passage from a very long original message, from the group that did this. so uhh yea...no straws

"Historically, the American flag and subsequent American nationalist symbols, have been polarizing and marginalizing to people of color living within the United States. This has been most recently exemplified in Colin Kaepernick's protest of the American national anthem."

Got it...so it's not actually the fault/responsibility of the people who carry out the act, it's the fault/responsibility of someone they have never met, spoken to or have anything remotely associated or to do with aside from a sentence they wrote...

oh no those aholes should be prosecuted for the vandalism but to say they weren't inspired by what kaepernick started is just foolish. kaepernick opened this can of worms and now idiots are running with it. not sure how you can deny that.

Kaepernick opened a can of worms that this country has racial issues? I had never heard of this issue before him.

no he opened the can of worms of idiots doing meaningless 'look at me' protests that does absolutely nothing to help the problem. do you really think disrespecting others and/or vandalism is a way to achieve a goal?

In what way did Kaepernick engage in vandalism?

No, seriously, you keep trying to tie these two disparate issues together. That just doesn't hold up.

dmaradona10

eeriepadave said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-zJL9JuOLQ</blockquote

South Park is still my favorite show. They just hit the nail on the head everytime. It's my therapy...