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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/mlb/seattle-mariners/mariners-insider-blog/article103589062.html

    First: "Black people beating whites when a thug got shot holding a gun by a black officer. Haha (stuff) cracks me up! Keep kneeling for the Anthem!"

    Couple things here...the beating white people comes from internet non sense circulated that wasn't from Charlotte or the US for that matter, thug is a somewhat acceptable way of saying N word, ignoring how anyone can determine guy is a thug and that he was holding a gun. "By a black officer" is an interesting narrative not to mention that some question if it was the black officer that pulled the trigger. And finally total butt hurt over anthem kneeling.

    Not only is he a raging racist, but a ignorant moron to boot.
    I do give him credit for being honest thou, most dance around the(ir) issue of disrespecting the flag and military blah blah, he cut right to.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    He won the lottery by being born
    Big hand slapped a white male American
    Do no wrong so clean cut
    Dirty his hands it comes right off
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    polaris_x said:

    He won the lottery by being born
    Big hand slapped a white male American
    Do no wrong so clean cut
    Dirty his hands it comes right off

    on the other hand you could probably quote 100 rap songs glorifying the thug life so whats your point?
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited September 2016

    "That's the great thing about this country"
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    edited September 2016
    pjhawks said:

    polaris_x said:

    He won the lottery by being born
    Big hand slapped a white male American
    Do no wrong so clean cut
    Dirty his hands it comes right off

    on the other hand you could probably quote 100 rap songs glorifying the thug life so whats your point?
    my point is this ...

    the notion of institutionalized racism and white privilege has been understood by many for a long time ... it's been understood by the band you are a fan of ...

    everything is interconnected ... the world does not operate in isolation ... people don't arbitrarily wake up one day and decide they want to strap bombs to their chests and kill innocent people ... it isn't random that access to education, health care and services are weakest in poor neighbourhoods that in many cases have black people living there ...

    so, while you may see some black men as thugs ... I ask that you see the circumstances that made that man into a thug ... a man supposedly born into the best country in this world ... the country that supposedly offers up endless opportunities if you just work hard ... the one that espouses liberty, freedom and democracy around the world through missiles and fighter jets ...

    guilt is a powerful thing ... most people don't want to feel it ... so, it's as simply as rationalizing a cheeseburger to somewhat with high cholesterol ... you can rationalize anything you want to explain things the way you want but likely that's all it is ... the truth and facts are there for everyone to see ... but only if you are open to it ...

    edit:
    from the movie hell or high water (which I highly recommend to everyone on the train) .. paraphrasing a bit as I can't remember word for word ...

    "being poor is like a disease ... being passed on from generation to generation"
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    edited September 2016
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    edited September 2016
    f5
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited September 2016
    pjhawks said:

    Should your staff be required to participate in a ceremony that is unrelated to your job duties?

    yes if it is part of the employment agreement and doesn't break any laws. this kind of stuff happens all the time in business. lots of big companies do activities during the workday that aren't directly related to their job duties.
    Pretty sure employees can't be forced to express patriotism and/or be made to worship a flag if they don't want to though. Not unless that is specifically written into their contract. If there isn't anything about that in their contract, then I'm pretty sure kneeling during the anthem is perfectly allowable. I still just can't believe anyone thinks they should be stopped from doing it. I for one am very glad they are. I hope it catches on even more. It has brought up a very valuable public conversation that is probably reaching a lot of young people.
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  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,881
    PJ_Soul said:

    pjhawks said:

    Should your staff be required to participate in a ceremony that is unrelated to your job duties?

    yes if it is part of the employment agreement and doesn't break any laws. this kind of stuff happens all the time in business. lots of big companies do activities during the workday that aren't directly related to their job duties.
    Pretty sure employees can't be forced to express patriotism and/or be made to worship a flag if they don't want to though. Not unless that is specifically written into their contract. If there isn't anything about that in their contract, then I'm pretty sure kneeling during the anthem is perfectly allowable. I still just can't believe anyone thinks they should be stopped from doing it. I for one am very glad they are. I hope it catches on even more. It has brought up a very valuable public conversation that is probably reaching a lot of young people.
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    It is spreading.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    Good.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Steve Clevenger pretty much validated the movement Kaepernick started with his actions on Friday... and nobody is talking about him.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    Steve Clevenger pretty much validated the movement Kaepernick started with his actions on Friday... and nobody is talking about him.

    Had to look it up.

    http://www.espn.com/espnw/voices/article/17621239/thank-steve-clevenger-your-tweets-prove-kaepernick-detractors-all-wrong

    "thug" and "animals"....I'm sure Steve didn't mean those words in a racist way. ;)
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited September 2016


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    JC29856 said:

    http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/mlb/seattle-mariners/mariners-insider-blog/article103589062.html

    First: "Black people beating whites when a thug got shot holding a gun by a black officer. Haha (stuff) cracks me up! Keep kneeling for the Anthem!"

    Couple things here...the beating white people comes from internet non sense circulated that wasn't from Charlotte or the US for that matter, thug is a somewhat acceptable way of saying N word, ignoring how anyone can determine guy is a thug and that he was holding a gun. "By a black officer" is an interesting narrative not to mention that some question if it was the black officer that pulled the trigger. And finally total butt hurt over anthem kneeling.

    Not only is he a raging racist, but a ignorant moron to boot.
    I do give him credit for being honest thou, most dance around the(ir) issue of disrespecting the flag and military blah blah, he cut right to.

    I'm a nobody.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    We saw this huge billboard coming down off the Bay Bridge heading east from San Francisco toward Oakland. As soon as I saw it I just went, "Yeah!" Didn't have time to get off a shot but here's the image:

    image

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/26/billboard-supporting-colin-kaepernick-being-placed-on-bay-bridge/
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Fuck Patriotism

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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    brianlux said:

    We saw this huge billboard coming down off the Bay Bridge heading east from San Francisco toward Oakland. As soon as I saw it I just went, "Yeah!" Didn't have time to get off a shot but here's the image:

    image

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/26/billboard-supporting-colin-kaepernick-being-placed-on-bay-bridge/

    Really Brian there was a billboard that said that in SF. THAT'S one cool city I have to visit one day. What CK has started isn't going away anytime soon.....I'm sure more and more prominent people will be voicing themselves as this football and election year continues both for and against this stance.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    I think most would agree with CK on this

    “It was embarrassing to watch that these are our two candidates,” Kaepernick said Tuesday, the day after the first presidential debate between Trump and Clinton, according to USA Today.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/298157-colin-kaepernick-clinton-trump-embarrassing?post_id=10105177485419523_10105753509891863#_=_
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    JC29856 said:
    freedom of speech and freedom to protest works both ways. they are just exercising their rights since it is a volunteer detail.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    JC29856 said:

    I think most would agree with CK on this

    “It was embarrassing to watch that these are our two candidates,” Kaepernick said Tuesday, the day after the first presidential debate between Trump and Clinton, according to USA Today.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/298157-colin-kaepernick-clinton-trump-embarrassing?post_id=10105177485419523_10105753509891863#_=_

    true, but it also is embarrassing to have been fined by the NFL for calling another player the n-word is it not? Kaepernick has never been under the scrutiny that the people running for POTUS are and rightfully so.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    g under p said:

    brianlux said:

    We saw this huge billboard coming down off the Bay Bridge heading east from San Francisco toward Oakland. As soon as I saw it I just went, "Yeah!" Didn't have time to get off a shot but here's the image:

    image

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/26/billboard-supporting-colin-kaepernick-being-placed-on-bay-bridge/

    Really Brian there was a billboard that said that in SF. THAT'S one cool city I have to visit one day. What CK has started isn't going away anytime soon.....I'm sure more and more prominent people will be voicing themselves as this football and election year continues both for and against this stance.

    Peace

    My only criticism of San Francisco is that it has been more or less taken over by wealthy computer industry people. An average person could once afford to live there. When I lived there from 1969 to 1973 I worked minimum wage jobs and shared a nice spacious flat in the Upper Haight Ashbury District with a couple guys and it had marvelous views, a garage, use of the roof to lounge and a small yard. No way could I afford to live there today. I know a young professional who lives in the Castro district who pays $3,200 per month for a very modest 2 bedroom apartment, no view.

    But nevertheless, it's a beautiful city, stunning really. So much to do and see!

    And yes, Bay Area supports Collin Kaepernick!
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    JC29856 said:
    Fist question that comes to mind is how does someone that stupid make it into college?
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    brianlux said:

    JC29856 said:
    Fist question that comes to mind is how does someone that stupid make it into college?
    Parents prob met there and they contribute $.
    I must say that it takes some serious nads to do that. Ultimately it's a free country and he has just as much right as anyone else.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    JC29856 said:

    brianlux said:

    JC29856 said:
    Fist question that comes to mind is how does someone that stupid make it into college?
    Parents prob met there and they contribute $.
    I must say that it takes some serious nads to do that. Ultimately it's a free country and he has just as much right as anyone else.
    Yes, we are free to make fools of ourselves and to act foolishly. Glad he got a little "reward" for doing so. Busted!
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    It's funny that people backing him are mad because he clowned Hillary as a racist. Hypocrites

    cnn.com/2016/08/30/opinions/where-kaepernick-lost-me-cane/
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,140
    JC29856 said:
    Cops are just as bad as "millennial snowflakes" for needing "safe spaces."
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    That shitty third string end of career no good unpatriotic hater of troops cops etc etc disrespecting USA etc etc etc etc QB was just named starting QB
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    JC29856 said:

    That shitty third string end of career no good unpatriotic hater of troops cops etc etc disrespecting USA etc etc etc etc QB was just named starting QB

    Starting QB of the worst team outside of Cleveland (which put a wide receiver in for QB this past Sunday because they frick'n suuuuuuck).
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