Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
What's your natural reaction when you get pulled over by a cop in a routine traffic stop? Ever feel scared? And by scared, I don't mean nervous that you might get a ticket instead of a warning. I mean, do you ever feel your life to be in danger when pulled over? Do you get repeatedly asked if you have any drugs or weapons in the car during the stop? Ever been searched without any probably cause? If you answered no to any or all of these questions, your skin color has afforded your safety. Because there isn't a black person I know who doesn't fear being profiled when pulled over by a cop.
Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
And white privilege makes work and responsibility that much easier.
I would say yes to work. I wouldn't agree with you on the responsibility item.
Personal responsibility does not require favour.
The concept of responsibility is very ambiguous when you start to dig at it. Whites in denial of white privilege will attribute their success more to their individual efforts and less to what's around them externally.
Making the decision to engage in crime, drop out of school, abdicate parental responsibility, ignore police commands, and the like are all items- as challenging as they might be- of personal responsibility that lie completely within the individual's control.
Stop... they are all victims of oppression who are not capable of making their own decisions...
Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
And white privilege makes work and responsibility that much easier.
I would say yes to work. I wouldn't agree with you on the responsibility item.
Personal responsibility does not require favour.
The concept of responsibility is very ambiguous when you start to dig at it. Whites in denial of white privilege will attribute their success more to their individual efforts and less to what's around them externally.
Making the decision to engage in crime, drop out of school, abdicate parental responsibility, ignore police commands, and the like are all items- as challenging as they might be- of personal responsibility that lie completely within the individual's control.
Stop... they are all victims of oppression who are not capable of making their own decisions...
Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
This must be trolling.
or just obtuse
I see you are in Asia...
Serious question... when is the last time you were in a black community in America?
I put that to the rest of you as well, when is the last time you were actually in a predominantly black community?
I live in south philly. Have public housing 4 or so blocks from my house. What's your point?
Do you ever go to that housing complex to hang out? I would wager no because it's a little too dangerous? just assuming
Ride my bike through it pretty much daily. It's not very bad. Not great, Not as bad as many others though. I still don't understand your point. Blacks are dangerous?
Edit: And I'll pose this question to you. Have you spent any time at an inner city school? Before saying someone should just get an education, perhaps it'd be important to think about whether these people have similar opportunities to get an education.
Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
And white privilege makes work and responsibility that much easier.
I would say yes to work. I wouldn't agree with you on the responsibility item.
Personal responsibility does not require favour.
The concept of responsibility is very ambiguous when you start to dig at it. Whites in denial of white privilege will attribute their success more to their individual efforts and less to what's around them externally.
Making the decision to engage in crime, drop out of school, abdicate parental responsibility, ignore police commands, and the like are all items- as challenging as they might be- of personal responsibility that lie completely within the individual's control.
Having worked closely with individuals and their decisions around all these issues: crime, drugs, education, authority, parenting, etc. I can tell you it will blow up any rigid notions someone has about individual responsibility. Out decision making process is much more complex and unique to the individual. It's really fascinating when someone lets you in on that process. It's too bad they're often treated as societal throw-aways. The simplified "if they would just take responsibilty" response is always unfortunate.
Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
What's your natural reaction when you get pulled over by a cop in a routine traffic stop? Ever feel scared? And by scared, I don't mean nervous that you might get a ticket instead of a warning. I mean, do you ever feel your life to be in danger when pulled over? Do you get repeatedly asked if you have any drugs or weapons in the car during the stop? Ever been searched without any probably cause? If you answered no to any or all of these questions, your skin color has afforded your safety. Because there isn't a black person I know who doesn't fear being profiled when pulled over by a cop.
Yup. This is what it's all about. Not to mention how when he walks down the street, chances are white women don't cross to the other side when they see him and his white friends walking down the sidewalk towards them. This shit still happens to black people. The discrimination is real. It isn't hard to understand how this also spreads to places of employment, other public places, etc.
I find it so strange and disturbing that some of you here seem to basically think that racism doesn't exist in America anymore. Wtf?????
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
And white privilege makes work and responsibility that much easier.
I would say yes to work. I wouldn't agree with you on the responsibility item.
Personal responsibility does not require favour.
The concept of responsibility is very ambiguous when you start to dig at it. Whites in denial of white privilege will attribute their success more to their individual efforts and less to what's around them externally.
Making the decision to engage in crime, drop out of school, abdicate parental responsibility, ignore police commands, and the like are all items- as challenging as they might be- of personal responsibility that lie completely within the individual's control.
Having worked closely with individuals and their decisions around all these issues: crime, drugs, education, authority, parenting, etc. I can tell you it will blow up any rigid notions someone has about individual responsibility. Out decision making process is much more complex and unique to the individual. It's really fascinating when someone lets you in on that process. It's too bad they're often treated as societal throw-aways. The simplified "if they would just take responsibilty" response is always unfortunate.
I would like to speak to this post and at length. I can't. I'm at work. It's too bad we weren't sitting with a beer on a deck somewhere.
I can tell you that I am all for proactively assisting with the situation. I can also tell you that once a person really crosses the line (I mean 'really' crosses the line as in murder or violent crime... I'm not looking to help in any way).
Common human decency. If you don't have it... well... sorry, man. I don't know what got you to that point, but I don't really care at this point either.
Years ago, some feminist on the internet told me I was "Privileged."
"THE FUCK!?!?" I said.
I came from the kind of Poor that people don't want to believe still exists in this country. Have you ever spent a frigid northern Illinois winter without heat or running water? I have. At twelve years old, were you making ramen noodles in a coffee maker with water you fetched from a public bathroom? I was. Have you ever lived in a camper year round and used a random relative's apartment as your mailing address? We did. Did you attend so many different elementary schools that you can only remember a quarter of their names? Welcome to my childhood.
So when that feminist told me I had "white privilege," I told her that my white skin didn't do shit to prevent me from experiencing poverty. Then, like any good, educated feminist would, she directed me to Peggy McIntosh's 1988 now-famous piece, "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack."
After one reads McIntosh's powerful essay, it's impossible to deny that being born with white skin in America affords people certain unearned privileges in life that people of another skin color simple are not afforded. For example:
"I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented." "When I am told about our national heritage or about “civilization,” I am shown that people of my color made it what it is." "If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven’t been singled out because of my race." "I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time." If you read through the rest of the list, you can see how white people and people of color experience the world in two very different ways. BUT LISTEN: This is not said to make white people feel guilty about their privilege. It's not your fault you were born with white skin and experience these privileges. BUT, whether you realize it or not, you DO benefit from it, and it IS your fault if you don't maintain awareness of that fact.
I do understand McIntosh's essay may rub some people the wrong way. There are several points on the list that I felt spoke more to the author's status as a Middle Class person than a White Person. For example:
"If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area, which I can afford and in which I would want to live." "I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me." "I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed." "If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege." And there are so many more points in the essay where the word "race" could be substituted for the word "class" which would ultimately paint a very different picture. That is why I had such a hard time identifying with this essay for so long. When I first wrote about White Privilege years ago, I demanded to know why this White Woman felt that my experiences were the same as hers when no, my family most certainly could not rent housing "in an area which we could afford and want to live."
And no, I couldn't go shopping without fear in our low income neighborhoods.
The idea that any ol' white person can find a publisher for a piece is most certainly a symptom of class privilege. Having come from a family of people who didn't even graduate high school, who knew not a single academic or intellectual person, it would never occur to me to assume that I could be published. It is an absolute freak anomaly that I'm in graduate school considering not one person on either side of my family has a college degree. And it took me until my thirties to ever believe that someone from my stock could achieve such a thing. Poverty colors nearly everything about your perspective on opportunities for advancement in life. Middle class, educated people assume that anyone can achieve their goals if they work hard enough. Folks steeped in poverty rarely see a life past working at the gas station, making the rent on their trailer, and self-medicating with cigarettes and prescription drugs until they die of a heart attack. (I've just described one whole side of my family and the life I assumed I'd be living before I lucked out of it.)
I, maybe more than most people, can completely understand why broke white folks get pissed when the word "Privilege" is thrown around. As a child, I was constantly discriminated against because of my poverty and those wounds still run very deep. But luckily my college education introduced me to a more nuanced concept of Privilege; the term Intersectionality. The concept of Intersectionality recognizes that people can be privileged in some ways and definitely not privileged in others. There are many different types of privilege, not just skin color privilege, that impact the way people can move through the world or are discriminated against. These are all things you are born into, not things you earned, that afford you opportunities others may not have. For example:
Citizenship - Simply being born in this country affords you certain privileges non-citizens will never access. Class - Being born into a financially stable family can help guarantee your health, happiness, safety, education, intelligence, and future opportunities. Sexual Orientation - By being born straight, every state in this country affords you privileges that non-straight folks have to fight the Supreme Court for. Sex - By being born male, you can assume that you can walk through a parking garage without worrying you'll be raped and that a defense attorney will then blame it on what you were wearing. Ability - By being born able bodied, you probably don't have to plan your life around handicap access, braille, or other special needs. Gender - By being born cisgendered, you aren't worried that the restroom or locker room you use will invoke public outrage. As you can see, belonging to one or more category of Privilege, especially being a Straight White Middle Class Able-Bodied Male, can be like winning a lottery you didn't even know you were playing. But this is not to imply that any form of privilege is exactly the same as another or that people lacking in one area of privilege understand what it's like to be lacking in other areas. Race discrimination is not equal to Sex Discrimination and so forth. And listen, recognizing Privilege doesn't mean suffering guilt or shame for your lot in life. Nobody's saying that Straight White Middle Class Able-Bodied Males are all a bunch of assholes who don't work hard for what they have. Recognizing Privilege simply means being aware that some people have to work much harder just to experience the things you take for granted (if they ever can experience them at all.)
I know now that I AM Privileged in many ways. I am Privileged as a natural born white citizen. I am privileged as a cis-gendered woman. I am privileged as an able-bodied person. I am privileged that my first language is also our national language, and that I was born with an intellect and ambition that pulled me out of the poverty I was otherwise destined for. I was privileged to be able to marry my way "up" by partnering with a Privileged middle-class educated male who fully expected me to earn a college degree.
There are a million ways I experience Privilege, and some that I certainly don't. But thankfully, Intersectionality allows us to examine these varying dimensions and degrees of discrimination while raising awareness of the results of multiple systems of oppression at work.
Tell me, are you a White Person made uncomfortable by the term "White Privilege?" Does a more nuanced approach help you see your own Privilege more clearly?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
What's your natural reaction when you get pulled over by a cop in a routine traffic stop? Ever feel scared? And by scared, I don't mean nervous that you might get a ticket instead of a warning. I mean, do you ever feel your life to be in danger when pulled over? Do you get repeatedly asked if you have any drugs or weapons in the car during the stop? Ever been searched without any probably cause? If you answered no to any or all of these questions, your skin color has afforded your safety. Because there isn't a black person I know who doesn't fear being profiled when pulled over by a cop.
Yup. This is what it's all about. Not to mention how when he walks down the street, chances are white women don't cross to the other side when they see him and his white friends walking down the sidewalk towards them. This shit still happens to black people. The discrimination is real. It isn't hard to understand how this also spreads to places of employment, other public places, etc.
I find it so strange and disturbing that some of you here seem to basically think that racism doesn't exist in America anymore. Wtf?????
Yeah uh....if I'm walking alone at night and see a group of white dudes with mohawks, tattoos and piercings walking down the street, good chance I nonchalantly try to avoid passing them.
I've met Rob
DEGENERATE FUK
This place is dead
"THERE ARE NO CLIQUES, ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T JOIN THE FUN" - Empty circa 2015
Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
What's your natural reaction when you get pulled over by a cop in a routine traffic stop? Ever feel scared? And by scared, I don't mean nervous that you might get a ticket instead of a warning. I mean, do you ever feel your life to be in danger when pulled over? Do you get repeatedly asked if you have any drugs or weapons in the car during the stop? Ever been searched without any probably cause? If you answered no to any or all of these questions, your skin color has afforded your safety. Because there isn't a black person I know who doesn't fear being profiled when pulled over by a cop.
Yup. This is what it's all about. Not to mention how when he walks down the street, chances are white women don't cross to the other side when they see him and his white friends walking down the sidewalk towards them. This shit still happens to black people. The discrimination is real. It isn't hard to understand how this also spreads to places of employment, other public places, etc.
I find it so strange and disturbing that some of you here seem to basically think that racism doesn't exist in America anymore. Wtf?????
Yeah uh....if I'm walking alone at night and see a group of white dudes with mohawks, tattoos and piercings walking down the street, good chance I nonchalantly try to avoid passing them.
Okay.... who said anything about guys who look "weird"? I'm just talking about black guys. But either way, really? You would cross the street if you saw some guys with piercings and tats and mohawks?
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
What's your natural reaction when you get pulled over by a cop in a routine traffic stop? Ever feel scared? And by scared, I don't mean nervous that you might get a ticket instead of a warning. I mean, do you ever feel your life to be in danger when pulled over? Do you get repeatedly asked if you have any drugs or weapons in the car during the stop? Ever been searched without any probably cause? If you answered no to any or all of these questions, your skin color has afforded your safety. Because there isn't a black person I know who doesn't fear being profiled when pulled over by a cop.
Yup. This is what it's all about. Not to mention how when he walks down the street, chances are white women don't cross to the other side when they see him and his white friends walking down the sidewalk towards them. This shit still happens to black people. The discrimination is real. It isn't hard to understand how this also spreads to places of employment, other public places, etc.
I find it so strange and disturbing that some of you here seem to basically think that racism doesn't exist in America anymore. Wtf?????
Yeah uh....if I'm walking alone at night and see a group of white dudes with mohawks, tattoos and piercings walking down the street, good chance I nonchalantly try to avoid passing them.
Which is the point, race isn't a factor when the men are white, it's other stereotypes about their appearance. You know what happens when I'm walking at night and cross paths with a woman walking alone, they say "hi".
Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
What's your natural reaction when you get pulled over by a cop in a routine traffic stop? Ever feel scared? And by scared, I don't mean nervous that you might get a ticket instead of a warning. I mean, do you ever feel your life to be in danger when pulled over? Do you get repeatedly asked if you have any drugs or weapons in the car during the stop? Ever been searched without any probably cause? If you answered no to any or all of these questions, your skin color has afforded your safety. Because there isn't a black person I know who doesn't fear being profiled when pulled over by a cop.
Yup. This is what it's all about. Not to mention how when he walks down the street, chances are white women don't cross to the other side when they see him and his white friends walking down the sidewalk towards them. This shit still happens to black people. The discrimination is real. It isn't hard to understand how this also spreads to places of employment, other public places, etc.
I find it so strange and disturbing that some of you here seem to basically think that racism doesn't exist in America anymore. Wtf?????
Yeah uh....if I'm walking alone at night and see a group of white dudes with mohawks, tattoos and piercings walking down the street, good chance I nonchalantly try to avoid passing them.
Which is the point, race isn't a factor when the men are white, it's other stereotypes about their appearance. You know what happens when I'm walking at night and cross paths with a woman walking alone, they say "hi".
Right. Just that the automatic comparison of black men to white dudes with piercings, etc (whatever someone finds threatening in people's appearance) says a LOT.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
What's your natural reaction when you get pulled over by a cop in a routine traffic stop? Ever feel scared? And by scared, I don't mean nervous that you might get a ticket instead of a warning. I mean, do you ever feel your life to be in danger when pulled over? Do you get repeatedly asked if you have any drugs or weapons in the car during the stop? Ever been searched without any probably cause? If you answered no to any or all of these questions, your skin color has afforded your safety. Because there isn't a black person I know who doesn't fear being profiled when pulled over by a cop.
Yup. This is what it's all about. Not to mention how when he walks down the street, chances are white women don't cross to the other side when they see him and his white friends walking down the sidewalk towards them. This shit still happens to black people. The discrimination is real. It isn't hard to understand how this also spreads to places of employment, other public places, etc.
I find it so strange and disturbing that some of you here seem to basically think that racism doesn't exist in America anymore. Wtf?????
Yeah uh....if I'm walking alone at night and see a group of white dudes with mohawks, tattoos and piercings walking down the street, good chance I nonchalantly try to avoid passing them.
Okay.... who said anything about guys who look "weird"? I'm just talking about black guys. But either way, really? You would cross the street if you saw some guys with piercings and tats and mohawks?
Yeah, probably would.
The "I'm just talking about black guys" line is a point I've tried to make a few times, but admittedly couldn't really word it. The stuff we say happens to black dudes happens to everyone. All races. I'm sure a. black women had crossed the street when seeing a group of white guys. So yeah, racism exists. Reading through here we make it seem like it's only directed at the black community.
I've met Rob
DEGENERATE FUK
This place is dead
"THERE ARE NO CLIQUES, ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T JOIN THE FUN" - Empty circa 2015
Nobody has done me any favors because I'm white...
Keep regurgitating the bullshit if it makes you feel better... some of you guys act like we are all still living in early 20th century Mississippi
Personal responsibility and hard work... just ask the fucking POTUS
What's your natural reaction when you get pulled over by a cop in a routine traffic stop? Ever feel scared? And by scared, I don't mean nervous that you might get a ticket instead of a warning. I mean, do you ever feel your life to be in danger when pulled over? Do you get repeatedly asked if you have any drugs or weapons in the car during the stop? Ever been searched without any probably cause? If you answered no to any or all of these questions, your skin color has afforded your safety. Because there isn't a black person I know who doesn't fear being profiled when pulled over by a cop.
Yup. This is what it's all about. Not to mention how when he walks down the street, chances are white women don't cross to the other side when they see him and his white friends walking down the sidewalk towards them. This shit still happens to black people. The discrimination is real. It isn't hard to understand how this also spreads to places of employment, other public places, etc.
I find it so strange and disturbing that some of you here seem to basically think that racism doesn't exist in America anymore. Wtf?????
Yeah uh....if I'm walking alone at night and see a group of white dudes with mohawks, tattoos and piercings walking down the street, good chance I nonchalantly try to avoid passing them.
Okay.... who said anything about guys who look "weird"? I'm just talking about black guys. But either way, really? You would cross the street if you saw some guys with piercings and tats and mohawks?
Yeah, probably would.
The "I'm just talking about black guys" line is a point I've tried to make a few times, but admittedly couldn't really word it. The stuff we say happens to black dudes happens to everyone. All races. I'm sure a. black women had crossed the street when seeing a group of white guys. So yeah, racism exists. Reading through here we make it seem like it's only directed at the black community.
A lot of this stuff that happens to black people in America definitely does not happen to everyone. Sorry Empty, of you think that you've got your head in the sand or you don't want to accept the truth. Read that article I posted above maybe?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
The stuff that happens to black guys does not happen to whites. It's not even comparable. Some individual stories of blacks being prejudicial toward whites is a small fraction.
the reporter comes across as a dbag but he does have a point. is your workplace an appropriate place to protest? and should your co-workers be required to listen to your protests at work? i think those are legitimate questions.
the reporter comes across as a dbag but he does have a point. is your workplace an appropriate place to protest? and should your co-workers be required to listen to your protests at work? i think those are legitimate questions.
the important distinction here is he was asked a set of question in the locker room yes? it should also be noted this isnt the typical work place. the nfl has an expecteation these guys talk to reporters in what should be a private space.
at any point did he disregard a question to make his points related to his protest?
absolutely that reporter is a fucking douchebag for suggesting what is or isnt appropriate in a given space.
thumbs up to Kelly for politely showing this guy for who he was in that instant.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Should your staff be required to participate in a ceremony that is unrelated to your job duties?
yes if it is part of the employment agreement and doesn't break any laws. this kind of stuff happens all the time in business. lots of big companies do activities during the workday that aren't directly related to their job duties.
the reporter comes across as a dbag but he does have a point. is your workplace an appropriate place to protest? and should your co-workers be required to listen to your protests at work? i think those are legitimate questions.
the important distinction here is he was asked a set of question in the locker room yes? it should also be noted this isnt the typical work place. the nfl has an expecteation these guys talk to reporters in what should be a private space.
at any point did he disregard a question to make his points related to his protest?
absolutely that reporter is a fucking douchebag for suggesting what is or isnt appropriate in a given space.
thumbs up to Kelly for politely showing this guy for who he was in that instant.
agree if Kaepernick was just answering reporter's questions then i don't see any issue.
Should your staff be required to participate in a ceremony that is unrelated to your job duties?
yes if it is part of the employment agreement and doesn't break any laws. this kind of stuff happens all the time in business. lots of big companies do activities during the workday that aren't directly related to their job duties.
Must have been in the agreement when they cut a deal with the US military.
Should your staff be required to participate in a ceremony that is unrelated to your job duties?
yes if it is part of the employment agreement and doesn't break any laws. this kind of stuff happens all the time in business. lots of big companies do activities during the workday that aren't directly related to their job duties.
Must have been in the agreement when they cut a deal with the US military.
Should your staff be required to participate in a ceremony that is unrelated to your job duties?
yes if it is part of the employment agreement and doesn't break any laws. this kind of stuff happens all the time in business. lots of big companies do activities during the workday that aren't directly related to their job duties.
Must have been in the agreement when they cut a deal with the US military.
NFL games are a military infomercial
Yup...how many people besides teachers stand before their workday and honor the flag or their country? Weekly? Monthly?
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If you answered no to any or all of these questions, your skin color has afforded your safety. Because there isn't a black person I know who doesn't fear being profiled when pulled over by a cop.
Serious question... when is the last time you were in a black community in America?
I put that to the rest of you as well, when is the last time you were actually in a predominantly black community?
Edit: And I'll pose this question to you. Have you spent any time at an inner city school? Before saying someone should just get an education, perhaps it'd be important to think about whether these people have similar opportunities to get an education.
I find it so strange and disturbing that some of you here seem to basically think that racism doesn't exist in America anymore. Wtf?????
I can tell you that I am all for proactively assisting with the situation. I can also tell you that once a person really crosses the line (I mean 'really' crosses the line as in murder or violent crime... I'm not looking to help in any way).
Common human decency. If you don't have it... well... sorry, man. I don't know what got you to that point, but I don't really care at this point either.
Explaining white privilege to a broke white person
By Gina Crosley-Corcoran
http://occupywallstreet.net/story/explaining-white-privilege-broke-white-person
Years ago, some feminist on the internet told me I was "Privileged."
"THE FUCK!?!?" I said.
I came from the kind of Poor that people don't want to believe still exists in this country. Have you ever spent a frigid northern Illinois winter without heat or running water? I have. At twelve years old, were you making ramen noodles in a coffee maker with water you fetched from a public bathroom? I was. Have you ever lived in a camper year round and used a random relative's apartment as your mailing address? We did. Did you attend so many different elementary schools that you can only remember a quarter of their names? Welcome to my childhood.
So when that feminist told me I had "white privilege," I told her that my white skin didn't do shit to prevent me from experiencing poverty. Then, like any good, educated feminist would, she directed me to Peggy McIntosh's 1988 now-famous piece, "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack."
After one reads McIntosh's powerful essay, it's impossible to deny that being born with white skin in America affords people certain unearned privileges in life that people of another skin color simple are not afforded. For example:
"I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented."
"When I am told about our national heritage or about “civilization,” I am shown that people of my color made it what it is."
"If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven’t been singled out because of my race."
"I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time."
If you read through the rest of the list, you can see how white people and people of color experience the world in two very different ways. BUT LISTEN: This is not said to make white people feel guilty about their privilege. It's not your fault you were born with white skin and experience these privileges. BUT, whether you realize it or not, you DO benefit from it, and it IS your fault if you don't maintain awareness of that fact.
I do understand McIntosh's essay may rub some people the wrong way. There are several points on the list that I felt spoke more to the author's status as a Middle Class person than a White Person. For example:
"If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area, which I can afford and in which I would want to live."
"I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me."
"I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed."
"If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege."
And there are so many more points in the essay where the word "race" could be substituted for the word "class" which would ultimately paint a very different picture. That is why I had such a hard time identifying with this essay for so long. When I first wrote about White Privilege years ago, I demanded to know why this White Woman felt that my experiences were the same as hers when no, my family most certainly could not rent housing "in an area which we could afford and want to live."
And no, I couldn't go shopping without fear in our low income neighborhoods.
The idea that any ol' white person can find a publisher for a piece is most certainly a symptom of class privilege. Having come from a family of people who didn't even graduate high school, who knew not a single academic or intellectual person, it would never occur to me to assume that I could be published. It is an absolute freak anomaly that I'm in graduate school considering not one person on either side of my family has a college degree. And it took me until my thirties to ever believe that someone from my stock could achieve such a thing. Poverty colors nearly everything about your perspective on opportunities for advancement in life. Middle class, educated people assume that anyone can achieve their goals if they work hard enough. Folks steeped in poverty rarely see a life past working at the gas station, making the rent on their trailer, and self-medicating with cigarettes and prescription drugs until they die of a heart attack. (I've just described one whole side of my family and the life I assumed I'd be living before I lucked out of it.)
I, maybe more than most people, can completely understand why broke white folks get pissed when the word "Privilege" is thrown around. As a child, I was constantly discriminated against because of my poverty and those wounds still run very deep. But luckily my college education introduced me to a more nuanced concept of Privilege; the term Intersectionality. The concept of Intersectionality recognizes that people can be privileged in some ways and definitely not privileged in others. There are many different types of privilege, not just skin color privilege, that impact the way people can move through the world or are discriminated against. These are all things you are born into, not things you earned, that afford you opportunities others may not have. For example:
Citizenship - Simply being born in this country affords you certain privileges non-citizens will never access.
Class - Being born into a financially stable family can help guarantee your health, happiness, safety, education, intelligence, and future opportunities.
Sexual Orientation - By being born straight, every state in this country affords you privileges that non-straight folks have to fight the Supreme Court for.
Sex - By being born male, you can assume that you can walk through a parking garage without worrying you'll be raped and that a defense attorney will then blame it on what you were wearing.
Ability - By being born able bodied, you probably don't have to plan your life around handicap access, braille, or other special needs.
Gender - By being born cisgendered, you aren't worried that the restroom or locker room you use will invoke public outrage.
As you can see, belonging to one or more category of Privilege, especially being a Straight White Middle Class Able-Bodied Male, can be like winning a lottery you didn't even know you were playing. But this is not to imply that any form of privilege is exactly the same as another or that people lacking in one area of privilege understand what it's like to be lacking in other areas. Race discrimination is not equal to Sex Discrimination and so forth.
And listen, recognizing Privilege doesn't mean suffering guilt or shame for your lot in life. Nobody's saying that Straight White Middle Class Able-Bodied Males are all a bunch of assholes who don't work hard for what they have. Recognizing Privilege simply means being aware that some people have to work much harder just to experience the things you take for granted (if they ever can experience them at all.)
I know now that I AM Privileged in many ways. I am Privileged as a natural born white citizen. I am privileged as a cis-gendered woman. I am privileged as an able-bodied person. I am privileged that my first language is also our national language, and that I was born with an intellect and ambition that pulled me out of the poverty I was otherwise destined for. I was privileged to be able to marry my way "up" by partnering with a Privileged middle-class educated male who fully expected me to earn a college degree.
There are a million ways I experience Privilege, and some that I certainly don't. But thankfully, Intersectionality allows us to examine these varying dimensions and degrees of discrimination while raising awareness of the results of multiple systems of oppression at work.
Tell me, are you a White Person made uncomfortable by the term "White Privilege?" Does a more nuanced approach help you see your own Privilege more clearly?
DEGENERATE FUK
This place is dead
"THERE ARE NO CLIQUES, ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T JOIN THE FUN" - Empty circa 2015
"Kfsbho&$thncds" - F Me In the Brain - circa 2015
But either way, really? You would cross the street if you saw some guys with piercings and tats and mohawks?
The "I'm just talking about black guys" line is a point I've tried to make a few times, but admittedly couldn't really word it. The stuff we say happens to black dudes happens to everyone. All races. I'm sure a. black women had crossed the street when seeing a group of white guys. So yeah, racism exists. Reading through here we make it seem like it's only directed at the black community.
DEGENERATE FUK
This place is dead
"THERE ARE NO CLIQUES, ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T JOIN THE FUN" - Empty circa 2015
"Kfsbho&$thncds" - F Me In the Brain - circa 2015
it should also be noted this isnt the typical work place. the nfl has an expecteation these guys talk to reporters in what should be a private space.
at any point did he disregard a question to make his points related to his protest?
absolutely that reporter is a fucking douchebag for suggesting what is or isnt appropriate in a given space.
thumbs up to Kelly for politely showing this guy for who he was in that instant.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14