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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited September 2016
    http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25181085/nfl-teams-received-54-million-from-defense-department-in-last-4-years

    Tax dollars at work.
    I'm for separation between sport and state.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited September 2016
    Patriotism versus nationalism
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,835
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Just out of curiosity how many people that have posted in this thread stands during the national anthem?

    Always take my hat off, stand, and put my hand over my heart.
    Also....make my father in law stand and remove his hat....as well as anyone else in the group with me.
    To me, it is about respect. If they had a reason to not stand I would have to accept it, but would tell them to shelve it and be respectful.
    Just me.
    If Kap was good and battling for the starting spot, my opinion is he still would not have done this.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    Americans aren't the only ones who have the national anthem at sporting events. Canadians do. Pretty sure football (soccer) leagues around the world play the anthems, don't they?

    You should hear the national anthem at Winnipeg Jets games. It is something I had never experienced before.

    Seems like a lot of Americans fully support their right to peaceful protest.

    Until it's something they don't agree with.
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  • Empty Glass
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    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-colin-kaepernicks-practice-socks-appear-to-disrespect-the-police/


    Has anyone put a number on the number of bad policemen we have? 95% of them? 75%? Maybe less than 10%...
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Since 9/11, most baseball stadiums now either play God Bless America or America The Beautiful during the 7th inning stretch instead of Take Me Out To The Ballgame. I'm so glad my Cubbies still show a posthumous Harry Caray singing on the video board! We already stood and sang The Star-Spangled Banner, now we have to sing another song about the nation AND bring fuckin religion into it, too?
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Empty Glass said:


    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-colin-kaepernicks-practice-socks-appear-to-disrespect-the-police/


    Has anyone put a number on the number of bad policemen we have? 95% of them? 75%? Maybe less than 10%...

    He's an idiot.

    Don't be surprised though. I'm not sure who follows the NFL and who doesn't around here, but I can tell you that even before this incident... Kap was one of the least liked players in the NFL by other players.

    Among many things, after throwing an interception, he called Lamarr Houston a n***er on the field. Sooo... yah... it's kind of ironic that he resorts to offensive and racist language when angry on the football field... yet the champion for the cause near the height of social awareness.

    It's tough for me to reconcile his history with his newfound moral high ground.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    Empty Glass said:


    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-colin-kaepernicks-practice-socks-appear-to-disrespect-the-police/


    Has anyone put a number on the number of bad policemen we have? 95% of them? 75%? Maybe less than 10%...

    You can't put a number on it because it's a continuum that has too many variables and "it depends" type of things at play.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Empty Glass said:


    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-colin-kaepernicks-practice-socks-appear-to-disrespect-the-police/


    Has anyone put a number on the number of bad policemen we have? 95% of them? 75%? Maybe less than 10%...

    He's an idiot.

    Don't be surprised though. I'm not sure who follows the NFL and who doesn't around here, but I can tell you that even before this incident... Kap was one of the least liked players in the NFL by other players.

    Among many things, after throwing an interception, he called Lamarr Houston a n***er on the field. Sooo... yah... it's kind of ironic that he resorts to offensive and racist language when angry on the football field... yet the champion for the cause near the height of social awareness.

    It's tough for me to reconcile his history with his newfound moral high ground.
    you can be passionate about something and still have been a dick in the past. they are not mutually exclusive. we all have said shit we aren't proud of. his is just broadcast on national tv. mine and yours are not.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    HesCalledDyer said:

    Since 9/11, most baseball stadiums now either play God Bless America or America The Beautiful during the 7th inning stretch instead of Take Me Out To The Ballgame. I'm so glad my Cubbies still show a posthumous Harry Caray singing on the video board! We already stood and sang The Star-Spangled Banner, now we have to sing another song about the nation AND bring fuckin religion into it, too?

    I believe Yankee Stadium is the only one that still does for every game. I am not a fan of it.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Empty Glass said:


    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-colin-kaepernicks-practice-socks-appear-to-disrespect-the-police/


    Has anyone put a number on the number of bad policemen we have? 95% of them? 75%? Maybe less than 10%...

    He's an idiot.

    Don't be surprised though. I'm not sure who follows the NFL and who doesn't around here, but I can tell you that even before this incident... Kap was one of the least liked players in the NFL by other players.

    Among many things, after throwing an interception, he called Lamarr Houston a n***er on the field. Sooo... yah... it's kind of ironic that he resorts to offensive and racist language when angry on the football field... yet the champion for the cause near the height of social awareness.

    It's tough for me to reconcile his history with his newfound moral high ground.
    you can be passionate about something and still have been a dick in the past. they are not mutually exclusive. we all have said shit we aren't proud of. his is just broadcast on national tv. mine and yours are not.
    If you were eager to give the guy credit... you could believe whatever you wish about the guy.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Empty Glass said:


    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-colin-kaepernicks-practice-socks-appear-to-disrespect-the-police/


    Has anyone put a number on the number of bad policemen we have? 95% of them? 75%? Maybe less than 10%...

    He's an idiot.

    Don't be surprised though. I'm not sure who follows the NFL and who doesn't around here, but I can tell you that even before this incident... Kap was one of the least liked players in the NFL by other players.

    Among many things, after throwing an interception, he called Lamarr Houston a n***er on the field. Sooo... yah... it's kind of ironic that he resorts to offensive and racist language when angry on the football field... yet the champion for the cause near the height of social awareness.

    It's tough for me to reconcile his history with his newfound moral high ground.
    you can be passionate about something and still have been a dick in the past. they are not mutually exclusive. we all have said shit we aren't proud of. his is just broadcast on national tv. mine and yours are not.
    If you were eager to give the guy credit... you could believe whatever you wish about the guy.
    eager to give the guy credit? I'm not even sure what that means.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    The socks are dumb
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Empty Glass said:


    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-colin-kaepernicks-practice-socks-appear-to-disrespect-the-police/


    Has anyone put a number on the number of bad policemen we have? 95% of them? 75%? Maybe less than 10%...

    He's an idiot.

    Don't be surprised though. I'm not sure who follows the NFL and who doesn't around here, but I can tell you that even before this incident... Kap was one of the least liked players in the NFL by other players.

    Among many things, after throwing an interception, he called Lamarr Houston a n***er on the field. Sooo... yah... it's kind of ironic that he resorts to offensive and racist language when angry on the football field... yet the champion for the cause near the height of social awareness.

    It's tough for me to reconcile his history with his newfound moral high ground.
    you can be passionate about something and still have been a dick in the past. they are not mutually exclusive. we all have said shit we aren't proud of. his is just broadcast on national tv. mine and yours are not.
    If you were eager to give the guy credit... you could believe whatever you wish about the guy.
    eager to give the guy credit? I'm not even sure what that means.
    Seriously?

    I meant if you really wanted to believe he genuinely feels for the movement to such a degree that he would shit on everything the national anthem might mean... you could believe his actions were altruistic.

    Knowing only what I have come to know of the guy... it seems more contrived and self serving.

    Others have said the same thing in this thread.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,316
    He is sitting to night and will continue to until there is "significant change".

    I think he will be sitting the next game too ... on his couch.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    Jason P said:

    He is sitting to night and will continue to until there is "significant change".

    I think he will be sitting the next game too ... on his couch.

    Why do people keep talking about whether he gets cut or not? Does anyone outside of Niners fans care?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Empty Glass said:


    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-colin-kaepernicks-practice-socks-appear-to-disrespect-the-police/


    Has anyone put a number on the number of bad policemen we have? 95% of them? 75%? Maybe less than 10%...

    He's an idiot.

    Don't be surprised though. I'm not sure who follows the NFL and who doesn't around here, but I can tell you that even before this incident... Kap was one of the least liked players in the NFL by other players.

    Among many things, after throwing an interception, he called Lamarr Houston a n***er on the field. Sooo... yah... it's kind of ironic that he resorts to offensive and racist language when angry on the football field... yet the champion for the cause near the height of social awareness.

    It's tough for me to reconcile his history with his newfound moral high ground.
    you can be passionate about something and still have been a dick in the past. they are not mutually exclusive. we all have said shit we aren't proud of. his is just broadcast on national tv. mine and yours are not.
    If you were eager to give the guy credit... you could believe whatever you wish about the guy.
    eager to give the guy credit? I'm not even sure what that means.
    Seriously?

    I meant if you really wanted to believe he genuinely feels for the movement to such a degree that he would shit on everything the national anthem might mean... you could believe his actions were altruistic.

    Knowing only what I have come to know of the guy... it seems more contrived and self serving.

    Others have said the same thing in this thread.
    your second paragraph is key: you don't know him. you know him from how he acts at work and how is he portrayed in the media. which is about 5%, if that, of a person's actual character. I have worked with a lot of people in my life. over the years, I have worked with some of my best friends. a few have been absolutely abhorent to work with. that means nothing in the grand scheme.

    and national anthems DON'T mean anything. it's pledging allegiance to your government. nothing more.
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    edited September 2016
    JC29856 said:

    http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25181085/nfl-teams-received-54-million-from-defense-department-in-last-4-years

    Tax dollars at work.
    I'm for separation between sport and state.

    Geez, not surprising. The total military advertising and marketing budget is about a billion dollars.

    Got to keep the masses indoctrinated and keep the propaganda going.

    NFL games are 3 hours of Military stroking.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Apparently Kap is starting tonight he should really be focusing what he has to do in this game. That said he can still continue with his stand of which he has a right to do by just staying in the locker room until the anthem is finished. Then come out and try and take care of his business on the field.

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  • pjhawks
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    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Empty Glass said:


    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-colin-kaepernicks-practice-socks-appear-to-disrespect-the-police/


    Has anyone put a number on the number of bad policemen we have? 95% of them? 75%? Maybe less than 10%...

    He's an idiot.

    Don't be surprised though. I'm not sure who follows the NFL and who doesn't around here, but I can tell you that even before this incident... Kap was one of the least liked players in the NFL by other players.

    Among many things, after throwing an interception, he called Lamarr Houston a n***er on the field. Sooo... yah... it's kind of ironic that he resorts to offensive and racist language when angry on the football field... yet the champion for the cause near the height of social awareness.

    It's tough for me to reconcile his history with his newfound moral high ground.
    you can be passionate about something and still have been a dick in the past. they are not mutually exclusive. we all have said shit we aren't proud of. his is just broadcast on national tv. mine and yours are not.
    If you were eager to give the guy credit... you could believe whatever you wish about the guy.
    eager to give the guy credit? I'm not even sure what that means.
    Seriously?

    I meant if you really wanted to believe he genuinely feels for the movement to such a degree that he would shit on everything the national anthem might mean... you could believe his actions were altruistic.

    Knowing only what I have come to know of the guy... it seems more contrived and self serving.

    Others have said the same thing in this thread.
    your second paragraph is key: you don't know him. you know him from how he acts at work and how is he portrayed in the media. which is about 5%, if that, of a person's actual character. I have worked with a lot of people in my life. over the years, I have worked with some of my best friends. a few have been absolutely abhorent to work with. that means nothing in the grand scheme.

    and national anthems DON'T mean anything. it's pledging allegiance to your government. nothing more.
    to you they don't but maybe to others they do? it does mean something to me for my own personal reasons.

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