Could You Kill a Baby Hitler?

PJfanwillneverleave1

Amongst the Ani said:

No to writting the songs that make the whole world cover their ears.

Come on. This is a perfect elevator and grocery store song.
So good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kffacxfA7G4

PJ_Soul

Yeah, the butterfly effect/space-time continuum issue is an important one. Anyone read Stephen King's 11/22/63? Things could really get crazy! ... But fuck it, I'd give it a shot anyway.

Enkidu

I was gonna ask if anyone had read 11/22/63. Tiny spoiler alert - killing Oswald doesn't really lead to great things.
Another good read - Fatherland by Robert Harris. What would have happened if Hitler won the war.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Imagine if EV wasn't born.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Wow, I am guenuinely surprised that so many people are saying no!

I couldn't fucking do it. I'd rather do something to make Hitler Mama infertile. I remember about 10 years ago I saw a bee.....I stomped on it for no fucking reason.......it was an INSECT, and over a decade later I still remember it and how sad I felt for doing it. So no, I couldn't. Hitler wasn't Hitler yet. He had done nothing wrong as a baby.

Could I slice his throat with a dull knife as an adult? no issue with that.

But not Clifford Olson with lethal injection?

Interesting.

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Wow, I am guenuinely surprised that so many people are saying no!

I couldn't fucking do it. I'd rather do something to make Hitler Mama infertile. I remember about 10 years ago I saw a bee.....I stomped on it for no fucking reason.......it was an INSECT, and over a decade later I still remember it and how sad I felt for doing it. So no, I couldn't. Hitler wasn't Hitler yet. He had done nothing wrong as a baby.

Could I slice his throat with a dull knife as an adult? no issue with that.

But not Clifford Olson with lethal injection?

Interesting.

I am also against the death penalty, but the death penalty isn't about preventing murder. It's about revenge for something that has already happened. Very different.

Enkidu

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Wow, I am guenuinely surprised that so many people are saying no!

I couldn't fucking do it. I'd rather do something to make Hitler Mama infertile. I remember about 10 years ago I saw a bee.....I stomped on it for no fucking reason.......it was an INSECT, and over a decade later I still remember it and how sad I felt for doing it. So no, I couldn't. Hitler wasn't Hitler yet. He had done nothing wrong as a baby.

Could I slice his throat with a dull knife as an adult? no issue with that.

But not Clifford Olson with lethal injection?

Interesting.

I am also against the death penalty, but the death penalty isn't about preventing murder. It's about revenge for something that has already happened. Very different.

I was going to post something similar. I don't believe in the death penalty either (with a couple exceptions - Timothy McVeigh being one).

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Wow, I am guenuinely surprised that so many people are saying no!

I couldn't fucking do it. I'd rather do something to make Hitler Mama infertile. I remember about 10 years ago I saw a bee.....I stomped on it for no fucking reason.......it was an INSECT, and over a decade later I still remember it and how sad I felt for doing it. So no, I couldn't. Hitler wasn't Hitler yet. He had done nothing wrong as a baby.

Could I slice his throat with a dull knife as an adult? no issue with that.

But not Clifford Olson with lethal injection?

Interesting.

I am also against the death penalty, but the death penalty isn't about preventing murder. It's about revenge for something that has already happened. Very different.

So killing an innocent newborn child for what we know it will do later in life is acceptable to you, yet executing a sadistic serial murderer in the name of justice isn't?

Are we sure that by killing this infant, we will be eliminating evil? Is there the probability that another bastard rears his head to some frightening capacity?

mickeyrat

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Wow, I am guenuinely surprised that so many people are saying no!

I couldn't fucking do it. I'd rather do something to make Hitler Mama infertile. I remember about 10 years ago I saw a bee.....I stomped on it for no fucking reason.......it was an INSECT, and over a decade later I still remember it and how sad I felt for doing it. So no, I couldn't. Hitler wasn't Hitler yet. He had done nothing wrong as a baby.

Could I slice his throat with a dull knife as an adult? no issue with that.

But not Clifford Olson with lethal injection?

Interesting.

I am also against the death penalty, but the death penalty isn't about preventing murder. It's about revenge for something that has already happened. Very different.

So killing an innocent newborn child for what we know it will do later in life is acceptable to you, yet executing a sadistic serial murderer in the name of justice isn't?

Are we sure that by killing this infant, we will be eliminating evil? Is there the probability that another bastard rears his head to some frightening capacity?

Article from Vox that brins exactly that up within the article.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Enkidu said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Wow, I am guenuinely surprised that so many people are saying no!

I couldn't fucking do it. I'd rather do something to make Hitler Mama infertile. I remember about 10 years ago I saw a bee.....I stomped on it for no fucking reason.......it was an INSECT, and over a decade later I still remember it and how sad I felt for doing it. So no, I couldn't. Hitler wasn't Hitler yet. He had done nothing wrong as a baby.

Could I slice his throat with a dull knife as an adult? no issue with that.

But not Clifford Olson with lethal injection?

Interesting.

I am also against the death penalty, but the death penalty isn't about preventing murder. It's about revenge for something that has already happened. Very different.

I don't believe in the death penalty either (with a couple exceptions - Timothy McVeigh being one).

Stop waffling.
You believe in it or you don't.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mickeyrat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Wow, I am guenuinely surprised that so many people are saying no!

I couldn't fucking do it. I'd rather do something to make Hitler Mama infertile. I remember about 10 years ago I saw a bee.....I stomped on it for no fucking reason.......it was an INSECT, and over a decade later I still remember it and how sad I felt for doing it. So no, I couldn't. Hitler wasn't Hitler yet. He had done nothing wrong as a baby.

Could I slice his throat with a dull knife as an adult? no issue with that.

But not Clifford Olson with lethal injection?

Interesting.

I am also against the death penalty, but the death penalty isn't about preventing murder. It's about revenge for something that has already happened. Very different.

So killing an innocent newborn child for what we know it will do later in life is acceptable to you, yet executing a sadistic serial murderer in the name of justice isn't?

Are we sure that by killing this infant, we will be eliminating evil? Is there the probability that another bastard rears his head to some frightening capacity?

Article from Vox that brins exactly that up within the article.

I never read it, but it's nice to know my question has some validity to it.

Enkidu

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Enkidu said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Wow, I am guenuinely surprised that so many people are saying no!

I couldn't fucking do it. I'd rather do something to make Hitler Mama infertile. I remember about 10 years ago I saw a bee.....I stomped on it for no fucking reason.......it was an INSECT, and over a decade later I still remember it and how sad I felt for doing it. So no, I couldn't. Hitler wasn't Hitler yet. He had done nothing wrong as a baby.

Could I slice his throat with a dull knife as an adult? no issue with that.

But not Clifford Olson with lethal injection?

Interesting.

I am also against the death penalty, but the death penalty isn't about preventing murder. It's about revenge for something that has already happened. Very different.

I don't believe in the death penalty either (with a couple exceptions - Timothy McVeigh being one).

Stop waffling.
You believe in it or you don't.

Um. Not waffling. Just saying what I think, duh. Agree with PJ Soul that it's revenge. I also don't like the idea of the state/gov't executing people. However. (That's a different word than waffling, look it up in a dictionary.) I didn't lose any sleep when McVeigh was executed.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Enkidu said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Enkidu said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Wow, I am guenuinely surprised that so many people are saying no!

I couldn't fucking do it. I'd rather do something to make Hitler Mama infertile. I remember about 10 years ago I saw a bee.....I stomped on it for no fucking reason.......it was an INSECT, and over a decade later I still remember it and how sad I felt for doing it. So no, I couldn't. Hitler wasn't Hitler yet. He had done nothing wrong as a baby.

Could I slice his throat with a dull knife as an adult? no issue with that.

But not Clifford Olson with lethal injection?

Interesting.

I am also against the death penalty, but the death penalty isn't about preventing murder. It's about revenge for something that has already happened. Very different.

I don't believe in the death penalty either (with a couple exceptions - Timothy McVeigh being one).

Stop waffling.
You believe in it or you don't.

Um. Not waffling. Just saying what I think, duh. Agree with PJ Soul that it's revenge. I also don't like the idea of the state/gov't executing people. However. (That's a different word than waffling, look it up in a dictionary.) I didn't lose any sleep when McVeigh was executed.

Waffling

Enkidu

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Enkidu said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Enkidu said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Wow, I am guenuinely surprised that so many people are saying no!

I couldn't fucking do it. I'd rather do something to make Hitler Mama infertile. I remember about 10 years ago I saw a bee.....I stomped on it for no fucking reason.......it was an INSECT, and over a decade later I still remember it and how sad I felt for doing it. So no, I couldn't. Hitler wasn't Hitler yet. He had done nothing wrong as a baby.

Could I slice his throat with a dull knife as an adult? no issue with that.

But not Clifford Olson with lethal injection?

Interesting.

I am also against the death penalty, but the death penalty isn't about preventing murder. It's about revenge for something that has already happened. Very different.

I don't believe in the death penalty either (with a couple exceptions - Timothy McVeigh being one).

Stop waffling.
You believe in it or you don't.

Um. Not waffling. Just saying what I think, duh. Agree with PJ Soul that it's revenge. I also don't like the idea of the state/gov't executing people. However. (That's a different word than waffling, look it up in a dictionary.) I didn't lose any sleep when McVeigh was executed.

Waffling

Guess that dictionary thing didn't work out for you.

Bentleyspop

Enkidu said:

I was gonna ask if anyone had read 11/22/63. Tiny spoiler alert - killing Oswald doesn't really lead to great things.
Another good read - Fatherland by Robert Harris. What would have happened if Hitler won the war.

Or watch the mockumentary...
Confederate states of America

Makes you think what if

deadendp

Enkidu said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Enkidu said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Enkidu said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Wow, I am guenuinely surprised that so many people are saying no!

I couldn't fucking do it. I'd rather do something to make Hitler Mama infertile. I remember about 10 years ago I saw a bee.....I stomped on it for no fucking reason.......it was an INSECT, and over a decade later I still remember it and how sad I felt for doing it. So no, I couldn't. Hitler wasn't Hitler yet. He had done nothing wrong as a baby.

Could I slice his throat with a dull knife as an adult? no issue with that.

But not Clifford Olson with lethal injection?

Interesting.

I am also against the death penalty, but the death penalty isn't about preventing murder. It's about revenge for something that has already happened. Very different.

I don't believe in the death penalty either (with a couple exceptions - Timothy McVeigh being one).

Stop waffling.
You believe in it or you don't.

Um. Not waffling. Just saying what I think, duh. Agree with PJ Soul that it's revenge. I also don't like the idea of the state/gov't executing people. However. (That's a different word than waffling, look it up in a dictionary.) I didn't lose any sleep when McVeigh was executed.

Waffling

Guess that dictionary thing didn't work out for you.

Oh snap.

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Wow, I am guenuinely surprised that so many people are saying no!

I couldn't fucking do it. I'd rather do something to make Hitler Mama infertile. I remember about 10 years ago I saw a bee.....I stomped on it for no fucking reason.......it was an INSECT, and over a decade later I still remember it and how sad I felt for doing it. So no, I couldn't. Hitler wasn't Hitler yet. He had done nothing wrong as a baby.

Could I slice his throat with a dull knife as an adult? no issue with that.

But not Clifford Olson with lethal injection?

Interesting.

I am also against the death penalty, but the death penalty isn't about preventing murder. It's about revenge for something that has already happened. Very different.

So killing an innocent newborn child for what we know it will do later in life is acceptable to you, yet executing a sadistic serial murderer in the name of justice isn't?

Are we sure that by killing this infant, we will be eliminating evil? Is there the probability that another bastard rears his head to some frightening capacity?

I mentioned this exact scenario in one of my replies. But tye only option is "we dont know the effect".

chadwick

adult hitler... punch to the throat & drive a dagger into his skull
then sit down & have a drink of spring water w/ dan aykroyd

baby hitler... put him to work in a gravel pit

PJfanwillneverleave1

chadwick said:

adult hitler... punch to the throat & drive a dagger into his skull
then sit down & have a drink of spring water w/ dan aykroyd

baby hitler... put him to work in a gravel pit

drinking vodka watching baby hitler slaved
what a scene
I'm in.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

The scale of the holocaust was shocking. The systematic processes put in place to rid the Germans of Jews was shocking. The number of Jews that were processed is shocking.

Numbs the mind, but human nature is such that we shouldn't really be shocked by anything.

I mean... people have been f**king cruel since as far back as history can reveal. We've had centuries and centuries to move to a more enlightened and peaceful way of being, but this has proven to be impossible.

Did you know the Rwandan genocide saw a million people killed at 4X a murder rate that the holocaust featured? With the weapon of choice being the machete? To me, this event was one that became a bothersome one. Couple the indifference the western world exhibited as the event unfolded... and it's hard not to be cynical.

Genocide on the grand scale is happening as we speak.

You take out Hitler... you get someone else. Don't get me wrong- take him out... but the problems will not go away.