Could You Kill a Baby Hitler?

gimmesometruth27

PJ_Soul said:

You must feel really disturbed about American soldiers Gimme. Bunch of damned murderers. Memorial Day must offend the hell out of you.

Without the hub of the wheel there is no wheel.
Stopping the holocaust but not a war would also be a pretty fucking good deal. But I disagree that a World War would have been a foregone conclusion no matter who the players were. Maybe there would have been one anyway, but maybe not.

i am not sure what your tone is or what it even matters, just seems like an odd line of attack to me but i will answer.

i have criticized the hell out of american soldiers on this forum for being murderers. look back at my posts from 2003-2006. i even did so to a former poster called "US soldier" who was stationed over there. i have also criticized memorial day. memorial day is to remember those soldiers killed in wars. we don't celebrate what the soldiers did or how many people they killed or whatever. people here lost family members in war. it is a way for them to remember their fallen family member. some people here stateside take that super seriously. me, not so much. i am normally getting hammered with my friends on memorial day because most years my birthday falls on that weekend.

lisa could maybe spread more light on it than i, but the treaty of versailles ruined germany and its economy. hitler rose to power out of frustration over the treaty. he rearmed and directly broke the treaty. if hitler never existed, someone who was angry about the treaty, most likely a WWI vet, was going to set out to avenge germany and make france and england pay. someone was going to do it, because you can't subjugate people forever. someone was going to come along and rearm germany, get it's people back to work, and get them thinking about vengeance and nationalism.

PJ_Soul

I am not sure why you called what i said "an odd line of attack". It was just a comment.

I am actually very knowledgeable about the history of 20th Century Europe and all of the events leading up to WWII, Hitler's biography, etc. It doesn't change my answer.

But that's cool - you have a belief and are consistent (obviously I'm not going to check out 10 year old comments; I'll just take your word for it).
I don't understand how anyone could possibly be offended by one death of an evil person that could prevent the death of millions of innocent people. That seems illogical to me.

PJfanwillneverleave1

SD48277 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

What is your answer to the question?
Could you?

I don't believe you have directly answered the question yourself.

And since you have late chimed I also ask the same question.
What say you to the question?

chadwick

thanks, gimmie, for posting the name "himmler"

heinrich himmler... i'd smoke that bastard slicker than snot. this himmler guy is a true monster. as a child he shoulda been tossed overboard, yes/no?

chadwick

yeah heinrich himmler makes my skin crawl. it is to bad heinrich didn't suffer 13 - 98 weeks before finally taking his last breath.

or

simply sniper his evil ass w/ a 50 caliber sniper rifle at 3 feet

i no like nazis - fact
i've zero time for nazis
i've no patience for nazis

go ahead ask me if i'm joking around

Enkidu

After reading the KL concentration camp book, I looked up a photo of dead Himmler. He took a cyanide pill (hidden in his tooth) and the picture isn't grisly, he just looks like he's asleep. I like the idea of you, Chadwick, snipering his evil ass.

rollings

don't let skull and crossbones SHINE!!!

someday, that ring's gonna be all mine

horse noises....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRwR1kuejRE

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

I am not sure why you called what i said "an odd line of attack". It was just a comment.

I am actually very knowledgeable about the history of 20th Century Europe and all of the events leading up to WWII, Hitler's biography, etc. It doesn't change my answer.

But that's cool - you have a belief and are consistent (obviously I'm not going to check out 10 year old comments; I'll just take your word for it).
I don't understand how anyone could possibly be offended by one death of an evil person that could prevent the death of millions of innocent people. That seems illogical to me.

because it's entirely possibly it was all for naught anyway. kinda like getting rid of Hussein, in the eyes of many, created ISIS.

mickeyrat

Round and round we go, over a bullshit premise based in illogical fantasy.

Need to rename the subforum to a moving merry-go-round. It seems we have movement but we never get anywhere.

hedonist

Movement can be good though, mickey. I know at times it seems like a clusterfuck, with that encouraged by (thankfully) just a few, but I'd rather hear all views than none.

I've been able to pluck some goodies from the merry-go-round current.

HughFreakingDillon

mickeyrat said:

Round and round we go, over a bullshit premise based in illogical fantasy.

Need to rename the subforum to a moving merry-go-round. It seems we have movement but we never get anywhere.

what's wrong with discussing the hypothetical? I find it very interesting.

mickeyrat

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

Round and round we go, over a bullshit premise based in illogical fantasy.

Need to rename the subforum to a moving merry-go-round. It seems we have movement but we never get anywhere.

what's wrong with discussing the hypothetical? I find it very interesting.

I would prefer plausibility.

PJ_Soul

mickeyrat said:

Round and round we go, over a bullshit premise based in illogical fantasy.

Need to rename the subforum to a moving merry-go-round. It seems we have movement but we never get anywhere.

Who cares? It's an interesting hypothetical to discuss. I think it's fun to talk about the philosophical and practical aspects of altering history! There are movies and books about it, it brings up interesting points about history and how events affected the world, etc. The point of discussing shit isn't always just to change minds.

PJ_Soul

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

Round and round we go, over a bullshit premise based in illogical fantasy.

Need to rename the subforum to a moving merry-go-round. It seems we have movement but we never get anywhere.

what's wrong with discussing the hypothetical? I find it very interesting.

I would prefer plausibility.

I guess you're in the wrong thread then?

brianlux

Let's discuss how you are all going to hypothetically make me a millionaire. LOL... sorry! It's that kind of morning!

OK but seriously, what is there to be gained from discussing the (as far as we know) impossible? I'm still sincerely not sure what the purpose of this is.

PJ_Soul

brianlux said:

Let's discuss how you are all going to hypothetically make me a millionaire. LOL... sorry! It's that kind of morning!

OK but seriously, what is there to be gained from discussing the (as far as we know) impossible? I'm still sincerely not sure what the purpose of this is.

For me, I just think it's fun to think about the possibilities. I also think it's fun to be challenged to answer difficult questions of morality. The way I see it, why wouldn't you want to discuss the impossible?? I love the "what would you do if..." games.
Also, obviously people do have something to say about this. Just that right there shows that it is worthwhile to talk about it. The only useless thread is the one where no one has anything to say.
This thread discusses history, Hitler's role in history, tells us something about the people answering, lets us use our imagination, discusses the possible ramifications of changing history, etc. All worthwhile!

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Let's discuss how you are all going to hypothetically make me a millionaire. LOL... sorry! It's that kind of morning!

OK but seriously, what is there to be gained from discussing the (as far as we know) impossible? I'm still sincerely not sure what the purpose of this is.

For me, I just think it's fun to think about the possibilities. I also think it's fun to be challenged to answer difficult questions of morality. The way I see it, why wouldn't you want to discuss the impossible?? I love the "what would you do if..." games.
Also, obviously people do have something to say about this. Just that right there shows that it is worthwhile to talk about it. The only useless thread is the one where no one has anything to say.
This thread discusses history, Hitler's role in history, tells us something about the people answering, lets us use our imagination, discusses the possible ramifications of changing history, etc. All worthwhile!

exactly, and it's also educated me a bit on the history of how WW2 came about (I don't recall it being heavily covered in my grade 11 history class). how could education ever be a bad thing?

hedonist

For me, it's interesting to simply imagine what-ifs. No different than pondering other impossible or implausible scenarios. Makes me think about ripples and gets my brain muscle grinding.

No Hitler -

Dad would've grown up as he should have with his parents, probably always a German citizen, denizen, a happy kid with a childhood not cut short at 14. His mom wouldn't have died in a fucking camp, my grandpa would've continued practicing science.

And, I'd not be here.

Not my place to say either are "shoulds", just from here, worth the contemplation.

hedonist

Nice wavelengths this morning

23scidoo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_of_Darkness