Penn State Scandal

EdsonNascimento

81 wrote:

g under p wrote:

That right is the part I have a problem in all of this...is his downplaying of what was reported to him to minimize damage to his friend. There's a reason I gather I have a photo of the two of them together at the start of this thread.

Peace

that's the key as far as joe pa is concerned. if he didn't down play it and reported exactly what he was told...i have no problem with what he did.

Those with the greatest power have the greatest responsibility. He can be out front, he can apologize, he can hide behind protocol. He was tested and he failed in the worst way possible. This should be the first line in any reminiscence about his career - allowed a predator to do his worst, just as long as he didn't see it and it wasn't on his campus.

rick1zoo2

EdsonNascimento wrote:

81 wrote:

g under p wrote:

That right is the part I have a problem in all of this...is his downplaying of what was reported to him to minimize damage to his friend. There's a reason I gather I have a photo of the two of them together at the start of this thread.

Peace

that's the key as far as joe pa is concerned. if he didn't down play it and reported exactly what he was told...i have no problem with what he did.

Those with the greatest power have the greatest responsibility. He can be out front, he can apologize, he can hide behind protocol. He was tested and he failed in the worst way possible. This should be the first line in any reminiscence about his career - allowed a predator to do his worst, just as long as he didn't see it and it wasn't on his campus.

yes, assuming he knew - even if all he knew was Sandusky and child naked together, why did he not follow up?, why did he not question why Sandusky was allowed to continue working with children?, why did he not do everything he could to prevent others from being victimized?

pjhawks

MayDay10 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

This will not go over well here but I'm going to post it either way.

http://onwardstate.com/2011/11/09/pater ... hers-hide/

thats pretty awful.

I dont know how anyone could go to that game and cheer, based on what the game and program symbolizes right now.

This is such a horrific crime, and it appears the cover-up has facilitated the program to some degree. That is the hall of nightmares for some people based on some absolutely traumatic events.

I actually think Penn State needs to turf the season.



I do think Paterno is taking too much of a brunt of this. The damage has and will be done to him and his 60 year legacy



but its really shallow to think that attending the game Saturday can be some sort of escape from this

i don't think Paterno should be coaching this weekend but there is no reason to punish the 90 or so players on the team for actions a few adults in positions of authority above them made or did not make. punish those who made the errors swiftly and appropriately and start the healing process. even in horrible times life continues on a daily basis.

ComeToTX

Paterno should be in jail too. He knew Sandusky raped a boy in the football facility and did nothing. Worse than that is that Sandusky was still allowed around the facilities WITH other young boys.

Everytime he saw Sandusky with a young boy he had to flashback to what he knew happened in that shower.

I have zero respect for him at this point.

rick1zoo2

pjhawks wrote:

MayDay10 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

This will not go over well here but I'm going to post it either way.

http://onwardstate.com/2011/11/09/pater ... hers-hide/

thats pretty awful.

I dont know how anyone could go to that game and cheer, based on what the game and program symbolizes right now.

This is such a horrific crime, and it appears the cover-up has facilitated the program to some degree. That is the hall of nightmares for some people based on some absolutely traumatic events.

I actually think Penn State needs to turf the season.



I do think Paterno is taking too much of a brunt of this. The damage has and will be done to him and his 60 year legacy



but its really shallow to think that attending the game Saturday can be some sort of escape from this

i don't think Paterno should be coaching this weekend but there is no reason to punish the 90 or so players on the team for actions a few adults in positions of authority above them made or did not make. punish those who made the errors swiftly and appropriately and start the healing process. even in horrible times life continues on a daily basis.

I agree. I think the University needs to separate itself from the individuals involved immediately and begin the process of restoring integrity.

EdsonNascimento

ComeToTX wrote:

Paterno should be in jail too. He knew Sandusky raped a boy in the football facility and did nothing. Worse than that is that Sandusky was still allowed around the facilities WITH other young boys.

Everytime he saw Sandusky with a young boy he had to flashback to what he knew happened in that shower.

I have zero respect for him at this point.

Your 2nd paragraph is wrong. I am certain he didn't. He is worried about himself and only himself. He didn't care. All he wanted was for it to go away. So, I'm sure he never thought of it again. A normal human being would. It's clear he and mike mcqueary aren't.

rick1zoo2

ComeToTX wrote:

Paterno should be in jail too. He knew Sandusky raped a boy in the football facility and did nothing. Worse than that is that Sandusky was still allowed around the facilities WITH other young boys.

Everytime he saw Sandusky with a young boy he had to flashback to what he knew happened in that shower.

I have zero respect for him at this point.

I wonder from the statement from Joe P. saying "a lot of people were fooled" if that means maybe he did confront Sandusky at some point and that Sandusky assured him it wouldn't happen again. I guess I am still saying that until we know more, it is difficult to judge.

JK_Livin

What he did for PSU in 61 years was help cover up the fact young kids were getting raped on his watch in facilites in which he helped get built. Hope you enjoyed the ride Joe because it's over and I hope the players decide to not play this Saturday. Football will not be an escape, it's the reason all this happened. Ask those families and kids if they'll be escaping during the game on Saturday.

EdsonNascimento

rick1zoo2 wrote:

ComeToTX wrote:

Paterno should be in jail too. He knew Sandusky raped a boy in the football facility and did nothing. Worse than that is that Sandusky was still allowed around the facilities WITH other young boys.

Everytime he saw Sandusky with a young boy he had to flashback to what he knew happened in that shower.

I have zero respect for him at this point.

I wonder from the statement from Joe P. saying "a lot of people were fooled" if that means maybe he did confront Sandusky at some point and that Sandusky assured him it wouldn't happen again. I guess I am still saying that until we know more, it is difficult to judge.

Don't buy it. If there was witness to this, I don't care if it's my brother. I'm turning him in.

rick1zoo2

EdsonNascimento wrote:

rick1zoo2 wrote:

ComeToTX wrote:

Paterno should be in jail too. He knew Sandusky raped a boy in the football facility and did nothing. Worse than that is that Sandusky was still allowed around the facilities WITH other young boys.

Everytime he saw Sandusky with a young boy he had to flashback to what he knew happened in that shower.

I have zero respect for him at this point.

I wonder from the statement from Joe P. saying "a lot of people were fooled" if that means maybe he did confront Sandusky at some point and that Sandusky assured him it wouldn't happen again. I guess I am still saying that until we know more, it is difficult to judge.

Don't buy it. If there was witness to this, I don't care if it's my brother. I'm turning him in.

trust me, I am in agreement with you. I am just thinking there is a lot more to this that we don't know

ComeToTX

there's plenty we don't know but i expect everything to come out will make him look worse, not better.

EdsonNascimento

rick1zoo2 wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

rick1zoo2 wrote:

I wonder from the statement from Joe P. saying "a lot of people were fooled" if that means maybe he did confront Sandusky at some point and that Sandusky assured him it wouldn't happen again. I guess I am still saying that until we know more, it is difficult to judge.

Don't buy it. If there was witness to this, I don't care if it's my brother. I'm turning him in.

trust me, I am in agreement with you. I am just thinking there is a lot more to this that we don't know

Definitely. But, at the very least it shows where joes priorities lie. I wish one of his former players would come out publicly against him even if it's just - if any of this is true, Joe should no longer be the face of our university. He continues to be selfish. Now Saturday is about him rather than the seniors on seniors day. Pathetic.

rick1zoo2

ComeToTX wrote:

there's plenty we don't know but i expect everything to come out will make him look worse, not better.

you could be very right.

important thing, although late for many of the victims, is that Sandusky won't be harming anyone again.

rick1zoo2

EdsonNascimento wrote:

rick1zoo2 wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Don't buy it. If there was witness to this, I don't care if it's my brother. I'm turning him in.

trust me, I am in agreement with you. I am just thinking there is a lot more to this that we don't know

Definitely. But, at the very least it shows where joes priorities lie. I wish one of his former players would come out publicly against him even if it's just - if any of this is true, Joe should no longer be the face of our university. He continues to be selfish. Now Saturday is about him rather than the seniors on seniors day. Pathetic.

that is why I think he should be removed now - the university needs to separate itself from him immediately

EdsonNascimento

rick1zoo2 wrote:

important thing, although late for many of the victims, is that Sandusky won't be harming anyone again.

g under p

EdsonNascimento wrote:

ComeToTX wrote:

Paterno should be in jail too. He knew Sandusky raped a boy in the football facility and did nothing. Worse than that is that Sandusky was still allowed around the facilities WITH other young boys


Everytime he saw Sandusky with a young boy he had to flashback to what he knew
happened in that shower.

I have zero respect for him at this point.

I think Joe and others had PSU's football program on their minds more than anything else Sandusky had done in the past. Joe and mike should be no where close to the field.

Peace

Your 2nd paragraph is wrong. I am certain he didn't. He is worried about himself and only himself. He didn't care. All he wanted was for it to go away. So, I'm sure he never thought of it again. A normal human being would. It's clear he and mike mcqueary aren't.

comebackgirl

EdsonNascimento wrote:

rick1zoo2 wrote:

important thing, although late for many of the victims, is that Sandusky won't be harming anyone again.

I really hope this is true. Ridiculous that it took so long for him to be banned from spending time alone with his grandkids. He abused so many kids in his own home, presumably while his wife and other family members were home, so even though someone else must be present, there's no guarantee that they'll be safe.

norm

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... ld-be-done

rick1zoo2

norm wrote:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16050982/as-you-read-this-paterno-era-at-penn-state-should-be-done

Cliffy6745

A blue out saturday with all proceeds going to charity. Very classy students