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  • Monster Rain
    Monster Rain Posts: 1,415
    There's an article on si.com that says Paterno could still possibly face charges for perjury or obstruction of justice. The perjury charge is probably unlikely since he didn't really lie as much as use vague terminology in his testimony about what the graduate assistant reported to him. The obstruction charge is possible if it's determined that he intentionally downplayed the incident when he reported it to his boss in order to prevent a criminal investigation.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... =cf_t11_a6
  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    ofthegirl99 wrote:
    You sound more like a person who hates Penn State and its football program.  How can you leave Sandusky off your wishlist?

    I posted earlier in the thread before this happened I never had any animosity towards the program and as with most people I respected Paterno. Now we know everything Joe built has been a fraud just like him. 

     It's pretty obvious that Sandusky will spend the rest of his life rotting away in prison. I mean there's no way a jury even one from happy valley would let him off right?  
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Monster Rain wrote:
    There's an article on si.com that says Paterno could still possibly face charges for perjury or obstruction of justice. The perjury charge is probably unlikely since he didn't really lie as much as use vague terminology in his testimony about what the graduate assistant reported to him. The obstruction charge is possible if it's determined that he intentionally downplayed the incident when he reported it to his boss in order to prevent a criminal investigation.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... =cf_t11_a6

    That right is the part I have a problem in all of this...is his downplaying of what was reported to him to minimize damage to his friend. There's a reason I gather I have a photo of the two of them together at the start of this thread.

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  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    I posted earlier in the thread before this happened I never had any animosity towards the program and as with most people I respected Paterno. Now we know everything Joe built has been a fraud just like him. 

     It's pretty obvious that Sandusky will spend the rest of his life rotting away in prison. I mean there's no way a jury even one from happy valley would let him off right?  

    no, but you do hate the big ten....i'm pretty sure you stated that in anouther thread.

    and if you disband the football program, where are the $'s for child services going to come from?

    and will he get convicted....who knows....we saw what happened in florida with that crazy chick and her kid.
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  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    g under p wrote:
    Monster Rain wrote:
    There's an article on si.com that says Paterno could still possibly face charges for perjury or obstruction of justice. The perjury charge is probably unlikely since he didn't really lie as much as use vague terminology in his testimony about what the graduate assistant reported to him. The obstruction charge is possible if it's determined that he intentionally downplayed the incident when he reported it to his boss in order to prevent a criminal investigation.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... =cf_t11_a6

    That right is the part I have a problem in all of this...is his downplaying of what was reported to him to minimize damage to his friend. There's a reason I gather I have a photo of the two of them together at the start of this thread.

    Peace

    that's the key as far as joe pa is concerned. if he didn't down play it and reported exactly what he was told...i have no problem with what he did.
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  • Monster Rain
    Monster Rain Posts: 1,415
    I hadn't really noticed Paterno's initial statement when this story broke. He said something along the lines of, "If these allegations are true, we were all fooled." I'd say it's hard to be fooled when he knew about the 1998 investigation and had an eyewitness report another incident to you in 2002. I'm certain that he did not give his superiors the same explicit details he was given. That might be a minor point unless one of the details he left out was the apparent age of the victim. If he failed to make it clear that the boy was a minor and not just someone who may have been of the legal age of consent in Pennsylvania, then that would seem to me to be blatant obstruction of justice.
    g under p wrote:
    Monster Rain wrote:
    There's an article on si.com that says Paterno could still possibly face charges for perjury or obstruction of justice. The perjury charge is probably unlikely since he didn't really lie as much as use vague terminology in his testimony about what the graduate assistant reported to him. The obstruction charge is possible if it's determined that he intentionally downplayed the incident when he reported it to his boss in order to prevent a criminal investigation.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... =cf_t11_a6

    That right is the part I have a problem in all of this...is his downplaying of what was reported to him to minimize damage to his friend. There's a reason I gather I have a photo of the two of them together at the start of this thread.

    Peace
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Graham Spanier is out
  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    norm wrote:
    Graham Spanier is out

    time to dust off the resume and get it to unhappy valley. sounds like there area few job openings
    81 is now off the air

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    81 wrote:
    norm wrote:
    Graham Spanier is out

    time to dust off the resume and get it to unhappy valley. sounds like there area few job openings

    Competition sounds tough. Rumors of Tom Ridge taking over for the time being.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    norm wrote:
    Graham Spanier is out

    tommy ridge, our former gov in pa, might be in...
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    81 wrote:
    norm wrote:
    Graham Spanier is out

    time to dust off the resume and get it to unhappy valley. sounds like there area few job openings

    Competition sounds tough. Rumors of Tom Ridge taking over for the time being.

    wasn't he the guy who came up with the color coded terror warnings? i think 81 has got a good shot ;)
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    norm wrote:
    wasn't he the guy who came up with the color coded terror warnings? i think 81 has got a good shot ;)

    :lol::lol::lol: He was, that's great. He just may have a shot then.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    we must remain vigilant norm.
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  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    81 wrote:
    norm wrote:
    Graham Spanier is out

    time to dust off the resume and get it to unhappy valley. sounds like there area few job openings
    Sounds like they are in need of a good bystander intervention program :think: If it wasn't 3 hours away in the middle of nowhere I would be peddling my services! :lol:
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Sounds like Spanier is still there, for now. Doubt he last the rest of the day though.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,956
    norm wrote:
    wasn't he the guy who came up with the color coded terror warnings? i think 81 has got a good shot ;)

    don't forget he also told us we could protect ourselves from dirty bombs by duct taping our windows and doors shut.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    This will not go over well here but I'm going to post it either way.

    http://onwardstate.com/2011/11/09/pater ... hers-hide/
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    81 wrote:
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    I posted earlier in the thread before this happened I never had any animosity towards the program and as with most people I respected Paterno. Now we know everything Joe built has been a fraud just like him. 

     It's pretty obvious that Sandusky will spend the rest of his life rotting away in prison. I mean there's no way a jury even one from happy valley would let him off right?  

    no, but you do hate the big ten....i'm pretty sure you stated that in anouther thread.

    and if you disband the football program, where are the $'s for child services going to come from?

    and will he get convicted....who knows....we saw what happened in florida with that crazy chick and her kid.

    No eye witnesses or victims that can still speak.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • rick1zoo2
    rick1zoo2 between a rock and a dumb place Posts: 12,632
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    This will not go over well here but I'm going to post it either way.

    http://onwardstate.com/2011/11/09/pater ... hers-hide/


    I get it. That is a tough one, and I am sure no-one is being as hard on him as himself.

    I think back to a few situations over the years and either regret what I had done or didn't do and wonder if the outcomes would have been different.

    Without knowing all the details of what was done/not done by the people involved it is very hard to judge.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,862
    edited November 2011
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    This will not go over well here but I'm going to post it either way.

    http://onwardstate.com/2011/11/09/pater ... hers-hide/


    thats pretty awful.

    I dont know how anyone could go to that game and cheer, based on what the game and program symbolizes right now.

    This is such a horrific crime, and it appears the cover-up has facilitated the program to some degree. That is the hall of nightmares for some people based on some absolutely traumatic events.

    I actually think Penn State needs to turf the season.



    I do think Paterno is taking too much of a brunt of this. The damage has and will be done to him and his 60 year legacy



    but its really shallow to think that attending the game Saturday can be some sort of escape from this
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