it is not lowering one's self to protect goodness.
it is not lowering one's self to wipe out evil.
i vote for love & kindness.
maniacs should be destroyed.
easy shit.
also, i suggest those against the dp, i suggest you folks get a job at your local prison.
make sure it's a maximum security facility full of nut jobs.
then i want you to read the reports on each convict.
if you can hold your lunch down, you win.
if it's a pointless argument why do you keep arguing? You say it's justifiable in "extremely rare situations" but then go on to say that all rapists and child molesters should all rot, which would make it an hourly occurence, and hardly rare. Let's just throw them all in a big rocket and send them all to the moon!
I'm not one of those people that thinks everyone can be rehabilitated. There are a lot of malfunctioning humans out there that need to be locked up. But everyone has a right to life.
was directed at you, but I accidentally addressed Mr Smith.
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Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
think of your life ending
20 years too soon because of some maniac
40 years
60
and you want him sheltered and fed for the rest of his
sometimes we have to protect ourselves from ourselves
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
i do not lose sleep over a predator being put away in a box and rotting underground.
it does not bother me in the least.
that is good for me, it is good for us all.
that gives me and you extra cleaner air to breathe.
it gives society a cleansing.
and it sends the twisted-up-sick-prick off to meet the maker.
if it's a pointless argument why do you keep arguing? You say it's justifiable in "extremely rare situations" but then go on to say that all rapists and child molesters should all rot, which would make it an hourly occurence, and hardly rare. Let's just throw them all in a big rocket and send them all to the moon!
I'm not one of those people that thinks everyone can be rehabilitated. There are a lot of malfunctioning humans out there that need to be locked up. But everyone has a right to life.
not everyone has a right to life.
a monster does not have the right to life.
i happen to love the moon, please do not send the evils of mankind to the moon.
ok ok ok...
child molesters, rapists, and cold blooded killers = the end.
this is where you are incorrect. this has nothing to do with sympathy for any one individual. it's about murder being wrong. if you have ever been to a prison, you'd know that it ain't peachy.
i feel some of you are soft and full of shit.
end of story.
bring on the bullet and skull.
now, let me be while i meditate and enjoy my hummingbird sanctuary.
i feel that some of us are being judged for believing in the sanctity of ALL human life.
what i would like to know is who decided humans would be judge jury and executioner??? oh thats right humans did. and look what a stellar job weve done so far.... killing the planet and killing ourselves with hate and retribution. and all for an eye for an eye, honour killings... what??? do not tell us we are soft and full of shit simply because weve chosen not to kill seek revenge and can see no rightness in execution.
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if you want to simplify an extremely complex issue to try to make your point, then I'll simplify it for you:
no human has the right to decide the fate of another human's life. case closed. I guess that makes me a little more intelligent than a caveman.
what are you basing this on? religious teachings? what does it have to do with intelligence? yes, humans do have the right to kill, in extremely rare and justifiable situations.
its a pointless argument. either you believe killing is acceptable in rare situations, or you're a fundamentalist that believes in all or nothing.
if you want a more complex answer dig up one of the millions of death penalty/pacifist threads that pops up here. mine is in there somewhere.
i never thought id describe myself as a fundamentalist but it seems if i use your definition when it comes to the taking of another persons life, i guess i am.
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man what a crazy debate, I'm on the fence on this one but just for shyts and giggles can any of you give a honest answer as to why a convicted murder'er should not be killed for his crime ? and opinions don't count cause we all have them and yours is no more correct than mine, if I agreed with capital punishment I would say in support of it that exacution is the best way to make sure this person dose not kill again, there have been many people that got out of prison and killed again or raped again or molested a young boy or girl again, it's like using your family and friends as human ginnie pigs...OHHH dang he killed again that person would still be alive if we wacked him the first time..do you get what I'm saying ?
and life in prison...many people have escaped and killed and even if they don't the cost to house a inmate a year is a butt load of money and guess who pays for that, you know when a animal attacks or even kills a human that animal is killed and most people agree with that..a animal with animal instincts to survive vs. a human with the power of reason "wright and wrong" is given 20 years to life or life with out parol where that person is fed and housed with t.v a gym and even a job to earn money to spend in the prison store...no justice some would say.
as for me i honestly don't know if it's o.k to take a human life for any reason..I really don't know ?
man what a crazy debate, I'm on the fence on this one but just for shyts and giggles can any of you give a honest answer as to why a convicted murder'er should not be killed for his crime ? and opinions don't count cause we all have them and yours is no more correct than mine, if I agreed with capital punishment I would say in support of it that exacution is the best way to make sure this person dose not kill again, there have been many people that got out of prison and killed again or raped again or molested a young boy or girl again, it's like using your family and friends as human ginnie pigs...OHHH dang he killed again that person would still be alive if we wacked him the first time..do you get what I'm saying ?
and life in prison...many people have escaped and killed and even if they don't the cost to house a inmate a year is a butt load of money and guess who pays for that, you know when a animal attacks or even kills a human that animal is killed and most people agree with that..a animal with animal instincts to survive vs. a human with the power of reason "wright and wrong" is given 20 years to life or life with out parol where that person is fed and housed with t.v a gym and even a job to earn money to spend in the prison store...no justice some would say.
as for me i honestly don't know if it's o.k to take a human life for any reason..I really don't know ?
Godfather.
exactly...
people will cage & whip a tiger or an elephant for some bullshit circus.
when that tiger or elephant snaps and attacks and injures or kills someone they put the tiger or elephant down.
beating a caged tiger, beating a caged elephant forcing them to do fun tricks.
yeah, that's fantastic.
i can't wait to be part of that.
feed the bad people to hungry tigers.
use the remains for the elephant to crap on.
easy as that.
btw, i love tigers and elephants
the worst tigers and the worst elephants on earth are better than the worst ppl on earth by a landslide.
i feel some of you are soft and full of shit.
end of story.
bring on the bullet and skull.
now, let me be while i meditate and enjoy my hummingbird sanctuary.
i feel that some of us are being judged for believing in the sanctity of ALL human life.
what i would like to know is who decided humans would be judge jury and executioner??? oh thats right humans did. and look what a stellar job weve done so far.... killing the planet and killing ourselves with hate and retribution. and all for an eye for an eye, honour killings... what??? do not tell us we are soft and full of shit simply because weve chosen not to kill seek revenge and can see no rightness in execution.
sanctity of all human life my fuckin ass.
i already knew what sanctity meant but i went ahead and looked it up on microsoft word.
i refuse to respect and show sacred reverence to a maniac.
SANCTITY...
1. sacredness: the condition of being considered sacred or holy, and therefore entitled to respect and reverence
2. holy thing: something considered holy or sacred (formal)
i feel some of you are soft and full of shit.
end of story.
bring on the bullet and skull.
now, let me be while i meditate and enjoy my hummingbird sanctuary.
i feel that some of us are being judged for believing in the sanctity of ALL human life.
what i would like to know is who decided humans would be judge jury and executioner??? oh thats right humans did. and look what a stellar job weve done so far.... killing the planet and killing ourselves with hate and retribution. and all for an eye for an eye, honour killings... what??? do not tell us we are soft and full of shit simply because weve chosen not to kill seek revenge and can see no rightness in execution.
sanctity of all human life my fuckin ass.
i already knew what sanctity meant but i went ahead and looked it up on microsoft word.
i refuse to respect and show sacred reverence to a maniac.
SANCTITY...
1. sacredness: the condition of being considered sacred or holy, and therefore entitled to respect and reverence
2. holy thing: something considered holy or sacred (formal)
chad im sure you know me well enough to know i dont use it in the religious sense of the word. tis not the maniac im respecting but life. you know im not some touchy feely airy fairy person with their head in clouds loving everyone and singing kumbaya round the bonfire.. heck the only reason im a vegetarian is not cause cause of some reverance i hold for ALL creatures(cause hell we gotta eat) but simply for aesthetic reasons... meat is just icky.
and on a general note... i just hope none of your little darlings grow up and murder somemone... cause im thinking perhaps the tune may well change.
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chad im sure you know me well enough to know i dont use it in the religious sense of the word. tis not the maniac im respecting but life. you know im not some touchy feely airy fairy person with their head in clouds loving everyone and singing kumbaya round the bonfire.. heck the only reason im a vegetarian is not cause cause of some reverance i hold for ALL creatures(cause hell we gotta eat) but simply for aesthetic reasons... meat is just icky.
and on a general note... i just hope none of your little darlings grow up and murder somemone... cause im thinking perhaps the tune may well change.
catester,
you're my buddy. (yes i know you well)
that's all i gotta say at this time.
one more thing... if my little darlings grow up to be whack jobs, they're in deep shit.
(it would be tramatic for me im sure)
also, i have no little darlings as of yet.
Haven't been on this post for a while so i haven't read all the pages but i did see people talking about how executing someone costs million of dollars? I don't get this. If putting the person to rest by injection is so expensive why not just shoot the piece of shit? Bullets are not that expensive.
man what a crazy debate, I'm on the fence on this one but just for shyts and giggles can any of you give a honest answer as to why a convicted murder'er should not be killed for his crime ? and opinions don't count cause we all have them and yours is no more correct than mine, if I agreed with capital punishment I would say in support of it that exacution is the best way to make sure this person dose not kill again, there have been many people that got out of prison and killed again or raped again or molested a young boy or girl again, it's like using your family and friends as human ginnie pigs...OHHH dang he killed again that person would still be alive if we wacked him the first time..do you get what I'm saying ?
and life in prison...many people have escaped and killed and even if they don't the cost to house a inmate a year is a butt load of money and guess who pays for that, you know when a animal attacks or even kills a human that animal is killed and most people agree with that..a animal with animal instincts to survive vs. a human with the power of reason "wright and wrong" is given 20 years to life or life with out parol where that person is fed and housed with t.v a gym and even a job to earn money to spend in the prison store...no justice some would say.
as for me i honestly don't know if it's o.k to take a human life for any reason..I really don't know ?
Godfather.
someone should not be killed for their crime because it's not anyone's right to decide the fate of anyone else. that's it.
so we should kill all convicted killers/rapists/pedophiles just out of fear for society? wow, better get the needles ready, there's gonna be a long line up.
Fact: it cost more money in the judicial process to put someone to death than it is for a life sentence.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I don't know many, if any, people that agree with putting down a circus animal that goes crazy. If anything, I'm cheering on the brute as it mauls its trainer (see: abuser). Humans capture wild animals and beat them into performing for our own amusement, the thing goes nuts, for GOOD FUCKING REASON, and we blame the animal and kill it. See how stupid that is? Just as stupid capital punishment.
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Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Haven't been on this post for a while so i haven't read all the pages but i did see people talking about how executing someone costs million of dollars? I don't get this. If putting the person to rest by injection is so expensive why not just shoot the piece of shit? Bullets are not that expensive.
Eye for an Eye
it's not the act of killing someone that costs the money. it's the endless appeals and the waste of court time and money to exhaust all avenues to "make sure they got the right guy".
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Haven't been on this post for a while so i haven't read all the pages but i did see people talking about how executing someone costs million of dollars? I don't get this. If putting the person to rest by injection is so expensive why not just shoot the piece of shit? Bullets are not that expensive.
Eye for an Eye
i am assuming it's the legal dealings that tie up the court system.
see, it's always the lawyers.
breathing lawyers = bad.
none breathing lawyers = good
So instead of fixing the system to work better and save money.....we just let the scum bags live.
And prison is not a Hilton, but some are not too far off.
T.V.
Ping Pong
Pool Table
Weight Room
Conjicle visits (<
no i'm not sure how to spell it and don't care)
Letters and visitations from loved ones.
Smoke a good cig.
Play basketball on the court.
etc.etc.etc.etc.
How many of these things does the person that this guy slaughtered get to do?????
im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.
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im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.
Depends who they are.
I would say sombody like Jeff Dahlmer isn't worth spending a whole lot of money on.
If someone killed a child of yours or a child you are close to....how much monetary value would you put on their life?
im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.
Depends who they are.
I would say sombody like Jeff Dahlmer isn't worth spending a whole lot of money on.
exactly...
oh by the way... he got shanked in the clink..
nicely done.
how much is gary ridgway worth?
to my notion he is worth zero.
im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.
good question, more kill for money than any other reason so why should we spare a life for a life that was taken for money, and your question is opinion based, is there a dollar value on human emotion ?.....who said money can't buy you love.
So instead of fixing the system to work better and save money.....we just let the scum bags live.
And prison is not a Hilton, but some are not too far off.
T.V.
Ping Pong
Pool Table
Weight Room
Conjicle visits (<
no i'm not sure how to spell it and don't care)
Letters and visitations from loved ones.
Smoke a good cig.
Play basketball on the court.
etc.etc.etc.etc.
How many of these things does the person that this guy slaughtered get to do?????
...
You forgot the nightly ass raping and being forced to suck cock.
Where does that fit into list of luxuries?
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im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.
it comes into the equation when pro-DPers try to say it's cheaper to kill the convict, my point is that it actually isn't. But like I said before, even if it was free to put them to death, that's still no reason to do so.
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Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
So instead of fixing the system to work better and save money.....we just let the scum bags live.
And prison is not a Hilton, but some are not too far off.
T.V.
Ping Pong
Pool Table
Weight Room
Conjicle visits (<
no i'm not sure how to spell it and don't care)
Letters and visitations from loved ones.
Smoke a good cig.
Play basketball on the court.
etc.etc.etc.etc.
How many of these things does the person that this guy slaughtered get to do?????
...
You forgot the nightly ass raping and being forced to suck cock.
Where does that fit into list of luxuries?
Poor pedophile raping murderers......I feel for them
im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.
Depends who they are.
I would say sombody like Jeff Dahlmer isn't worth spending a whole lot of money on.
If someone killed a child of yours or a child you are close to....how much monetary value would you put on their life?
my children are priceless. their worth is immeasurable to me. but that doesnt mean i want a murderer dead. nor does it mean i have the right to seek vengeance.
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you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. have you ever seen what the life of an inmate is actually like? there are many out there that believe that even locking people up is inhumane, but it's the only solution we have at the moment.
the only ones that are "not too far off" a Hilton as you put it, are the ones that Martha Stewart stayed in. That's white collar criminal minor offenses, nothing that would warrant a life sentence or the death penalty.
So instead of fixing the system to work better and save money.....we just let the scum bags live.
And prison is not a Hilton, but some are not too far off.
T.V.
Ping Pong
Pool Table
Weight Room
Conjicle visits (<
no i'm not sure how to spell it and don't care)
Letters and visitations from loved ones.
Smoke a good cig.
Play basketball on the court.
etc.etc.etc.etc.
How many of these things does the person that this guy slaughtered get to do?????
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.
Depends who they are.
I would say sombody like Jeff Dahlmer isn't worth spending a whole lot of money on.
If someone killed a child of yours or a child you are close to....how much monetary value would you put on their life?
my children are priceless. their worth is immeasurable to me.
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sure i can and i do.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
this:
was directed at you, but I accidentally addressed Mr Smith.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
and not enough for the victims
think of your life ending
20 years too soon because of some maniac
40 years
60
and you want him sheltered and fed for the rest of his
sometimes we have to protect ourselves from ourselves
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
on or off.
on or off.
i do not lose sleep over a predator being put away in a box and rotting underground.
it does not bother me in the least.
that is good for me, it is good for us all.
that gives me and you extra cleaner air to breathe.
it gives society a cleansing.
and it sends the twisted-up-sick-prick off to meet the maker.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
not everyone has a right to life.
a monster does not have the right to life.
i happen to love the moon, please do not send the evils of mankind to the moon.
ok ok ok...
child molesters, rapists, and cold blooded killers = the end.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
i feel that some of us are being judged for believing in the sanctity of ALL human life.
what i would like to know is who decided humans would be judge jury and executioner??? oh thats right humans did. and look what a stellar job weve done so far.... killing the planet and killing ourselves with hate and retribution. and all for an eye for an eye, honour killings... what??? do not tell us we are soft and full of shit simply because weve chosen not to kill seek revenge and can see no rightness in execution.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
i never thought id describe myself as a fundamentalist but it seems if i use your definition when it comes to the taking of another persons life, i guess i am.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
and life in prison...many people have escaped and killed and even if they don't the cost to house a inmate a year is a butt load of money and guess who pays for that, you know when a animal attacks or even kills a human that animal is killed and most people agree with that..a animal with animal instincts to survive vs. a human with the power of reason "wright and wrong" is given 20 years to life or life with out parol where that person is fed and housed with t.v a gym and even a job to earn money to spend in the prison store...no justice some would say.
as for me i honestly don't know if it's o.k to take a human life for any reason..I really don't know ?
Godfather.
exactly...
people will cage & whip a tiger or an elephant for some bullshit circus.
when that tiger or elephant snaps and attacks and injures or kills someone they put the tiger or elephant down.
beating a caged tiger, beating a caged elephant forcing them to do fun tricks.
yeah, that's fantastic.
i can't wait to be part of that.
feed the bad people to hungry tigers.
use the remains for the elephant to crap on.
easy as that.
btw, i love tigers and elephants
the worst tigers and the worst elephants on earth are better than the worst ppl on earth by a landslide.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
i already knew what sanctity meant but i went ahead and looked it up on microsoft word.
i refuse to respect and show sacred reverence to a maniac.
SANCTITY...
1. sacredness: the condition of being considered sacred or holy, and therefore entitled to respect and reverence
2. holy thing: something considered holy or sacred (formal)
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
chad im sure you know me well enough to know i dont use it in the religious sense of the word. tis not the maniac im respecting but life. you know im not some touchy feely airy fairy person with their head in clouds loving everyone and singing kumbaya round the bonfire.. heck the only reason im a vegetarian is not cause cause of some reverance i hold for ALL creatures(cause hell we gotta eat) but simply for aesthetic reasons... meat is just icky.
and on a general note... i just hope none of your little darlings grow up and murder somemone... cause im thinking perhaps the tune may well change.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
catester,
you're my buddy. (yes i know you well)
that's all i gotta say at this time.
one more thing... if my little darlings grow up to be whack jobs, they're in deep shit.
(it would be tramatic for me im sure)
also, i have no little darlings as of yet.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Eye for an Eye
someone should not be killed for their crime because it's not anyone's right to decide the fate of anyone else. that's it.
so we should kill all convicted killers/rapists/pedophiles just out of fear for society? wow, better get the needles ready, there's gonna be a long line up.
Fact: it cost more money in the judicial process to put someone to death than it is for a life sentence.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I don't know many, if any, people that agree with putting down a circus animal that goes crazy. If anything, I'm cheering on the brute as it mauls its trainer (see: abuser). Humans capture wild animals and beat them into performing for our own amusement, the thing goes nuts, for GOOD FUCKING REASON, and we blame the animal and kill it. See how stupid that is? Just as stupid capital punishment.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
it's not the act of killing someone that costs the money. it's the endless appeals and the waste of court time and money to exhaust all avenues to "make sure they got the right guy".
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
see, it's always the lawyers.
breathing lawyers = bad.
none breathing lawyers = good
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
And prison is not a Hilton, but some are not too far off.
T.V.
Ping Pong
Pool Table
Weight Room
Conjicle visits (<
no i'm not sure how to spell it and don't care)
Letters and visitations from loved ones.
Smoke a good cig.
Play basketball on the court.
etc.etc.etc.etc.
How many of these things does the person that this guy slaughtered get to do?????
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Depends who they are.
I would say sombody like Jeff Dahlmer isn't worth spending a whole lot of money on.
If someone killed a child of yours or a child you are close to....how much monetary value would you put on their life?
oh by the way... he got shanked in the clink..
nicely done.
how much is gary ridgway worth?
to my notion he is worth zero.
the list goes on.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
good question, more kill for money than any other reason so why should we spare a life for a life that was taken for money, and your question is opinion based, is there a dollar value on human emotion ?.....who said money can't buy you love.
Godfather.
You forgot the nightly ass raping and being forced to suck cock.
Where does that fit into list of luxuries?
Hail, Hail!!!
it comes into the equation when pro-DPers try to say it's cheaper to kill the convict, my point is that it actually isn't. But like I said before, even if it was free to put them to death, that's still no reason to do so.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Poor pedophile raping murderers......I feel for them
my children are priceless. their worth is immeasurable to me. but that doesnt mean i want a murderer dead. nor does it mean i have the right to seek vengeance.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
the only ones that are "not too far off" a Hilton as you put it, are the ones that Martha Stewart stayed in. That's white collar criminal minor offenses, nothing that would warrant a life sentence or the death penalty.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
:thumbup:
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Right there with ya!