jesus christ, I'm not angry at all. It was a joke. Fine, would it be better if I took "Daddy" out and just put "his dad or his co workers" if it's making everyone's skirt in a knot? He brought it up. Jeez. He can talk ad nauseum about dismemberment and raping and molesting, and you make one little comment...........and really, what the fuck were the guards doing while someone was being cut up in prison??
and secondly, ed, stop projecting emotions onto people. it's the written word. you have no freaking clue what I'm actually feeling behind my keyboard, so don't claim to know.
I learned a while back not to let AMT get under my skin.
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Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
well so does everyone in this thread (except the occasional random Godfather post of course ), including you.
As gimme stated, sometimes people type in all caps to get special attention paid to a sepecific portion of a post, or use accentuated punctuation (like several ????). It doesn't necessarily mean anything.
jesus christ, I'm not angry at all. It was a joke. Fine, would it be better if I took "Daddy" out and just put "his dad or his co workers" if it's making everyone's skirt in a knot? He brought it up. Jeez. He can talk ad nauseum about dismemberment and raping and molesting, and you make one little comment...........and really, what the fuck were the guards doing while someone was being cut up in prison??
bill
that is a bullshit thing to say
i know all this typing is getting you angry
but come on
thats all we're doing here, bill
typing
bill, it's called a riot
it involves prison staff as hostages, killings, and horrible violence
burning shit down
it is a full on zoo
state police, cops, sheriff, correctional officers...
well so does everyone in this thread (except the occasional random Godfather post of course ), including you.
As gimme stated, sometimes people type in all caps to get special attention paid to a sepecific portion of a post, or use accentuated punctuation (like several ????). It doesn't necessarily mean anything.
well so do SOME PEOPLE in this thread (except the occasional random Godfather post of course ), including you.
As gimme stated, sometimes people type in all caps to get special attention paid to a sepecific portion of a post, or use accentuated punctuation (like several ????). It doesn't necessarily mean anything.
bill, it's called a riot
it involves prison staff as hostages, killings, and horrible violence
burning shit down
it is a full on zoo
state police, cops, sheriff, correctional officers...
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Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
And I still don't buy any kind of definitive morality about taking another life. Just because you feel that way, doesn't make it so.
how can you even pretend that it's not immoral to take another human life? that's what seperates us from the "monsters" that Chadwick keeps regailing us with stories of!
I'll say it for an 87th time..........and please answer this time...........someone........WHAT gives anyone the right to take the life of another human being? And don't use "they gave up their rights to live yadda yadda yadda". Where was it stated in some divine book that told you that they gave up their right to live for x crime? Who decided this? Tell me! Who??
Where is your source that says taking anything's life is immoral? Your personal gut feeling? Tell me! Where? I could grease what I consider a monster without feeling like one myself... so where does that leave us? Both with our own opionions on the subject. Again, just because it makes sense to you, that still doesn't make it some universal truth.
Uh, well, if it weren't wrong to take a person's life then we certainly have no right to take the life of a murderer.
So is prison (much more so in my opinion), but you are ok with that?
no. I don't think it's fair to treat anyone like an animal, but I also don't know what the solution is.
Neither do I, thus this conversation. All I know is that I'd rather someone just kill me than send me to one of those places for the rest of my life.
So then wouldn't killing someone be giving them a break and showing sympathy for them? I believe many people here would say showing humanity to a "monster" means you support him and are crazy and ignorant.
i know that this thread is 66 pages long now, and please forgive me for reposting something i posted back in the very beginning. i just want to mention it again in case new people to the thread don't go back to the beginning. no one has commented on this, and that's ok, i just thought it might give a victims insight. there's some heartbreaking stories here. the death penalty is not the answer. please don't think it gives the victims families closure. it really doesn't.
if anyone is interested, there's a very good website out there that opposes the death penalty. they campaign on behalf of murder victims and their families.
their aim is "to put real faces on victim opposition to the death penalty by presenting photos and statements from survivors throughout the United States and around the world, along with photos of the murder victim and links to further information."
these a real people, real stories. absolutely heartbreaking. these people know what it's like to lose someone they loved very much, and they are completely against the death penalty. some of them have witnessed the dealth penalty being carried out and they say that it gives them absolutely no peace at all. in fact it just creates more victims.
I always like it when someone asks a question and then tells people how they can or can't answer them.
Look, I get your position, and I move closer to the same most everyday. But I will try and answer you question even using the rules you laid out.
What gives anyone the right to take the life of another? Well, it is called laws. Written by man. Some have been good, other have been bad. But that is what gives someone the right. And, in my case, when I believe the death penalty is appropriate, it is because I don't believe it is worth the risk to other human beings to keep someone alive. Risk to the general population, risk to other inmates of lesser crimes, risk to correctional officers (maybe my main concern). Should we be putting these people at risk by dealing with a murderous individual? If you take away the death penalty and give life without parole, why would an inmate comply with the correction officers? What keeps them from doing something terrible? It concerns me. If they are put to death, then there is no way for them to kill again. So, that how I justify it. Though, as I said, I waver on it often. I'm a flip-flopper.
I see your point, but from the opposite side. If someone is sentenced to death, what would keep them from doing whatever the fuck they want to do in prison? Seems like they have even less to lose than those people sentenced to life in prison.
Can you support something that you couldnt do yourself?
I'm not sure the pro-choice people would agree that you'd have to be willing to do something yourself in order to support it....or so they have told me.
Personally, I think an good guage of stance on the DP is whether or not you, YOURSELF, could pull the trigger as the executioner on a person and live with it.
Can you support something that you couldnt do yourself?
I get angry as fuck hearing about murderers and people who wear other peoples skin and keep their eyeballs in jars and heads in refrigerators... but could I end their life? me personally? no fucking way.
Here's an idea: Everyone who votes for the death penalty should be signed up to fullfil their civil obligation as executioner. And if they can't do it or change their mind afterward, their vote is revoked.
I love how people are able to make such life and death decisions from the comfort of their own computer keyboards and voting booths without ever having to have any real knowledge of such things. :roll:
doesn't anyone find it mildly ironic that a lot of the pro Dp people tend to be conservative, right wing, or religious and one of the commandments they are supposed to follow is "thou shalt not kill"??
so now after all this time she wants out and feels she is ready to join society and not be a threat but her victims are still dead and their family's still miss them...yea but the killer has been reformed !!!! right ?
so now what..., all I'm saying is "who really knows"
Godfather.
I asked you this before and you didn't answer, so I'll ask again: What would Jesus do?
hey chadwick
last night
as i lay drifting
off to sleep
ready to dream of
evil being destroyed
i wondered
are we too humane
in executing the monsters?
a preacher
a doctor
some family members present
sometimes only a needle
should they pay less than their victim(s)
or should it be equal?
take the west memphis 3 case
i assume the 3 they have in custody are innocent
a mistake made by the local law and media
and hopefully, soon to be solved
but some monster did that
3 young boys
abducted
hogtied
tortured and drowned
genitials of 1 removed
if only someone could have saved them
heard the screams
stopped this monster from
crawling back into society
and if they had
would he have been gently
put to sleep
with the slight prick of a needle
with family at his side
with a preacher hoping god will forgive him?
or should he have been shown the pain he created
should he have been
hogtied
tortured
and forced to watch his own genitials
being hacked off?
i awoke to the sounds of birds
and the smell of a fresh green nug
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
hey chadwick
last night
as i lay drifting
off to sleep
ready to dream of
evil being destroyed
i wondered
are we too humane
in executing the monsters?
a preacher
a doctor
some family members present
sometimes only a needle
should they pay less than their victim(s)
or should it be equal?
take the west memphis 3 case
i assume the 3 they have in custody are innocent
a mistake made by the local law and media
and hopefully, soon to be solved
but some monster did that
3 young boys
abducted
hogtied
tortured and drowned
genitials of 1 removed
if only someone could have saved them
heard the screams
stopped this monster from
crawling back into society
and if they had
would he have been gently
put to sleep
with the slight prick of a needle
with family at his side
with a preacher hoping god will forgive him?
or should he have been shown the pain he created
should he have been
hogtied
tortured
and forced to watch his own genitials
being hacked off?
i awoke to the sounds of birds
and the smell of a fresh green nug
very poetic.
very nice.
i like this.
for some reason i enjoy the .357 mugnum.
it is quite loud and with a heavy crack to it.
can you do me a favor?
i do not have info on the west memphis 3 case.
i will try to find info on it and read up on the story.
the favor, do you have any links to the terrible story?
are you from the memphis area?
me? im in western washington.
no tv so i don't catch all the news like i would like to.
no, not from there
i live in massachusetts
i lived in your part of the country for awhile in madison,wi
but it is breckenridge,co that i miss
gonna get back to that part of the country someday
the wm3 case happened some time ago
i remembered it when someone brought it up in this thread
unfortunatley
had to refresh my memory with this
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
hey chadwick
last night
as i lay drifting
off to sleep
ready to dream of
evil being destroyed
i wondered
are we too humane
in executing the monsters?
a preacher
a doctor
some family members present
sometimes only a needle
should they pay less than their victim(s)
or should it be equal?
take the west memphis 3 case
i assume the 3 they have in custody are innocent
a mistake made by the local law and media
and hopefully, soon to be solved
but some monster did that
3 young boys
abducted
hogtied
tortured and drowned
genitials of 1 removed
if only someone could have saved them
heard the screams
stopped this monster from
crawling back into society
and if they had
would he have been gently
put to sleep
with the slight prick of a needle
with family at his side
with a preacher hoping god will forgive him?
or should he have been shown the pain he created
should he have been
hogtied
tortured
and forced to watch his own genitials
being hacked off?
i awoke to the sounds of birds
and the smell of a fresh green nug
very poetic.
very nice.
i like this.
for some reason i enjoy the .357 mugnum.
it is quite loud and with a heavy crack to it.
can you do me a favor?
i do not have info on the west memphis 3 case.
i will try to find info on it and read up on the story.
the favor, do you have any links to the terrible story?
are you from the memphis area?
me? im in western washington.
no tv so i don't catch all the news like i would like to.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
hey chadwick
last night
as i lay drifting
off to sleep
ready to dream of
evil being destroyed
i wondered
are we too humane
in executing the monsters?
a preacher
a doctor
some family members present
sometimes only a needle
should they pay less than their victim(s)
or should it be equal?
take the west memphis 3 case
i assume the 3 they have in custody are innocent
a mistake made by the local law and media
and hopefully, soon to be solved
but some monster did that
3 young boys
abducted
hogtied
tortured and drowned
genitials of 1 removed
if only someone could have saved them
heard the screams
stopped this monster from
crawling back into society
and if they had
would he have been gently
put to sleep
with the slight prick of a needle
with family at his side
with a preacher hoping god will forgive him?
or should he have been shown the pain he created
should he have been
hogtied
tortured
and forced to watch his own genitials
being hacked off?
i awoke to the sounds of birds
and the smell of a fresh green nug
very poetic.
very nice.
i like this.
for some reason i enjoy the .357 mugnum.
it is quite loud and with a heavy crack to it.
can you do me a favor?
i do not have info on the west memphis 3 case.
i will try to find info on it and read up on the story.
the favor, do you have any links to the terrible story?
are you from the memphis area?
me? im in western washington.
no tv so i don't catch all the news like i would like to.
i found the message full of little poetic lines.
it's full of creative writing.
just my opinion.
no, not from there
i live in massachusetts
i lived in your part of the country for awhile in madison,wi
but it is breckenridge,co that i miss
gonna get back to that part of the country someday
the wm3 case happened some time ago
i remembered it when someone brought it up in this thread
unfortunatley
had to refresh my memory with this
hey chadwick
last night
as i lay drifting
off to sleep
ready to dream of
evil being destroyed
i wondered
are we too humane
in executing the monsters?
a preacher
a doctor
some family members present
sometimes only a needle
should they pay less than their victim(s)
or should it be equal?
take the west memphis 3 case
i assume the 3 they have in custody are innocent
a mistake made by the local law and media
and hopefully, soon to be solved
but some monster did that
3 young boys
abducted
hogtied
tortured and drowned
genitials of 1 removed
if only someone could have saved them
heard the screams
stopped this monster from
crawling back into society
and if they had
would he have been gently
put to sleep
with the slight prick of a needle
with family at his side
with a preacher hoping god will forgive him?
or should he have been shown the pain he created
should he have been
hogtied
tortured
and forced to watch his own genitials
being hacked off?
i awoke to the sounds of birds
and the smell of a fresh green nug
very poetic.
very nice.
i like this.
for some reason i enjoy the .357 mugnum.
it is quite loud and with a heavy crack to it.
you know. madness is a lot like gravity. sometimes, all it takes is a little…push.
hey chadwick
last night
as i lay drifting
off to sleep
ready to dream of
evil being destroyed
:?
yeah i did that all the time when i was little. who didn't dream of being leonardo, or luke skywalker. so badass.
now. not so much. i'm a big girl.
this is my opinion
why can't i have one in this forum
are we truly free
to think
to choose
i just wanted to see how the other side thinks
sees things
i have only stated my opinion
if that hurts you so much
to try to hurt me
i apologize
but i won't change direction
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
hey chadwick
last night
as i lay drifting
off to sleep
ready to dream of
evil being destroyed
:?
yeah i did that all the time when i was little. who didn't dream of being leonardo, or luke skywalker. so badass.
now. not so much. i'm a big girl.
this is my opinion
why can't i have one in this forum
are we truly free
to think
to choose
i just wanted to see how the other side thinks
sees things
i have only stated my opinion
if that hurts you so much
to try to hurt me
i apologize
but i won't change direction
of course you can have your opinion. what on earth are you talking about. i'm not trying to hurt you? that's silly talk. read back though my posts in this thead. i've been more than reasonable all the way through. i just wish we could debate the issue without all the extreme examples being used, (because the death penalty is not just handed out to those cases), and without certain people sounding so excited and graphically describing how they would like to seek revenge and murder people. i find that talk especially creepy. why can't it just be discussed rationally?
speaking about torture and displaying delight at watching someone get their genitals hacked off, is sick. in my opinion.
you know, there's nothing amusing or exciting about murder (including state sanctioned) under any circumstances.
this is my opinion
why can't i have one in this forum
are we truly free
to think
to choose
i just wanted to see how the other side thinks
sees things
i have only stated my opinion
if that hurts you so much
to try to hurt me
i apologize
but i won't change direction[/quote]
of course you can have your opinion. what on earth are you talking about. i'm not trying to hurt you? that's silly talk. read back though my posts in this thead. i've been more than reasonable all the way through. i just wish we could debate the issue without all the extreme examples being used, (because the death penalty is not just handed out to those cases), and without certain people sounding so exited and graphically describing how they would like to seek revenge and murder people. i find that talk especially creepy. why can't it just be discussed rationally?
speaking about torture and displaying delight at watching someone get their genitals hacked off, is sick. in my opinion.
you know, there's nothing amusing or exciting about murder (including state sanctioned) under any circumstances.[/quote]
if believing that a murderer should receive the same circumstances they inflict
is what you call revenge
so be it
i believe
over time
it would make the world a safer place to live
as for the repaid torture
it would not be for delight
do you understand what these children were put through?
as you lay down and close your eyes tonight
try to see what they saw in their final minutes
seconds
at eight years old
put what words you need to in your responce to this
but
it is not about bringing them back
what the monster did prevents this
which is why these monsters
cannot stay here
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
if believing that a murderer should receive the same circumstances they inflict
is what you call revenge
so be it
i believe
over time
it would make the world a safer place to live
how does murdering someone, the same way they murdered another, make it a safer place to live. dead is dead, no matter how the final act is carried out.
as for the repaid torture
it would not be for delight
do you understand what these children were put through?
as you lay down and close your eyes tonight
try to see what they saw in their final minutes
seconds
at eight years old
put what words you need to in your responce to this
but
it is not about bringing them back
what the monster did prevents this
which is why these monsters
cannot stay here
see that's what you pro DP folk don't understand. i have lost someone who was infinitely precious to me at the hands of another, and i can tell you, i don't need to lay there at night an imagine what they went through. i'm already living every single day without them. it's hard enough as it is without torturing myself further. nothing will ever bring them back. the life of the person that killed my brother is not considered an equal trade for him, and never will be. some total stranger assuming that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up, has no clue. how about asking us what we want. there's a thought.
i am completely against state-sanctioned murder under any circumstances.
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I learned a while back not to let AMT get under my skin.
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you just sound very angry
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AUGUSTA 9-26-96
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BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
As gimme stated, sometimes people type in all caps to get special attention paid to a sepecific portion of a post, or use accentuated punctuation (like several ????). It doesn't necessarily mean anything.
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Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
it involves prison staff as hostages, killings, and horrible violence
burning shit down
it is a full on zoo
state police, cops, sheriff, correctional officers...
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I sound angry? Weird, I swear I'm not... for once (in this thread, I mean).
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Uh, well, if it weren't wrong to take a person's life then we certainly have no right to take the life of a murderer.
So then wouldn't killing someone be giving them a break and showing sympathy for them? I believe many people here would say showing humanity to a "monster" means you support him and are crazy and ignorant.
Okay, so here's a question for the pro-DP folks: If the victim's family opposes the DP, should it still be carried out against their wishes?
I see your point, but from the opposite side. If someone is sentenced to death, what would keep them from doing whatever the fuck they want to do in prison? Seems like they have even less to lose than those people sentenced to life in prison.
That's not a good analogy.
Here's an idea: Everyone who votes for the death penalty should be signed up to fullfil their civil obligation as executioner. And if they can't do it or change their mind afterward, their vote is revoked.
I love how people are able to make such life and death decisions from the comfort of their own computer keyboards and voting booths without ever having to have any real knowledge of such things. :roll:
I asked you this before and you didn't answer, so I'll ask again: What would Jesus do?
last night
as i lay drifting
off to sleep
ready to dream of
evil being destroyed
i wondered
are we too humane
in executing the monsters?
a preacher
a doctor
some family members present
sometimes only a needle
should they pay less than their victim(s)
or should it be equal?
take the west memphis 3 case
i assume the 3 they have in custody are innocent
a mistake made by the local law and media
and hopefully, soon to be solved
but some monster did that
3 young boys
abducted
hogtied
tortured and drowned
genitials of 1 removed
if only someone could have saved them
heard the screams
stopped this monster from
crawling back into society
and if they had
would he have been gently
put to sleep
with the slight prick of a needle
with family at his side
with a preacher hoping god will forgive him?
or should he have been shown the pain he created
should he have been
hogtied
tortured
and forced to watch his own genitials
being hacked off?
i awoke to the sounds of birds
and the smell of a fresh green nug
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
very poetic.
very nice.
i like this.
for some reason i enjoy the .357 mugnum.
it is quite loud and with a heavy crack to it.
can you do me a favor?
i do not have info on the west memphis 3 case.
i will try to find info on it and read up on the story.
the favor, do you have any links to the terrible story?
are you from the memphis area?
me? im in western washington.
no tv so i don't catch all the news like i would like to.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
i live in massachusetts
i lived in your part of the country for awhile in madison,wi
but it is breckenridge,co that i miss
gonna get back to that part of the country someday
the wm3 case happened some time ago
i remembered it when someone brought it up in this thread
unfortunatley
had to refresh my memory with this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
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Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
i found the message full of little poetic lines.
it's full of creative writing.
just my opinion.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
i lived in iowa then.
what a horrible thing.
3 kids tortured and murdered.
that sucks.
i really have no words.
those 3 young men in prison are in one hell of a bind.
it sounds like they are innocent to me.
a very odd case.
this sucks and i feel bad.
one thing is for certain, our system is shit.
also, someone, somewhere, is cruel and could still be at large.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
yeah i did that all the time when i was little. who didn't dream of being leonardo, or luke skywalker. so badass.
now. not so much. i'm a big girl.
this is my opinion
why can't i have one in this forum
are we truly free
to think
to choose
i just wanted to see how the other side thinks
sees things
i have only stated my opinion
if that hurts you so much
to try to hurt me
i apologize
but i won't change direction
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
speaking about torture and displaying delight at watching someone get their genitals hacked off, is sick. in my opinion.
you know, there's nothing amusing or exciting about murder (including state sanctioned) under any circumstances.
why can't i have one in this forum
are we truly free
to think
to choose
i just wanted to see how the other side thinks
sees things
i have only stated my opinion
if that hurts you so much
to try to hurt me
i apologize
but i won't change direction[/quote]
of course you can have your opinion. what on earth are you talking about. i'm not trying to hurt you? that's silly talk. read back though my posts in this thead. i've been more than reasonable all the way through. i just wish we could debate the issue without all the extreme examples being used, (because the death penalty is not just handed out to those cases), and without certain people sounding so exited and graphically describing how they would like to seek revenge and murder people. i find that talk especially creepy. why can't it just be discussed rationally?
speaking about torture and displaying delight at watching someone get their genitals hacked off, is sick. in my opinion.
you know, there's nothing amusing or exciting about murder (including state sanctioned) under any circumstances.[/quote]
if believing that a murderer should receive the same circumstances they inflict
is what you call revenge
so be it
i believe
over time
it would make the world a safer place to live
as for the repaid torture
it would not be for delight
do you understand what these children were put through?
as you lay down and close your eyes tonight
try to see what they saw in their final minutes
seconds
at eight years old
put what words you need to in your responce to this
but
it is not about bringing them back
what the monster did prevents this
which is why these monsters
cannot stay here
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
see that's what you pro DP folk don't understand. i have lost someone who was infinitely precious to me at the hands of another, and i can tell you, i don't need to lay there at night an imagine what they went through. i'm already living every single day without them. it's hard enough as it is without torturing myself further. nothing will ever bring them back. the life of the person that killed my brother is not considered an equal trade for him, and never will be. some total stranger assuming that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up, has no clue. how about asking us what we want. there's a thought.
i am completely against state-sanctioned murder under any circumstances.