this is why i am amazed.
some of you have been existing in your lives, under a rock.
nobody would ever do those wild things you say, chad.
chadwick, you are stretching the story out of proportion
those nasty scary ppl don't exist, now stop it, nobody is that cruel.
:twisted: oh yes they are :evil:
under a rock?
sure.
i'm a critical care paramedic, and have seen more broken bodies and smashed in heads that you seem to be so fond of describing, than i care to remember.
this is why i am amazed.
some of you have been existing in your lives, under a rock.
nobody would ever do those wild things you say, chad.
chadwick, you are stretching the story out of proportion
those nasty scary ppl don't exist, now stop it, nobody is that cruel.
:twisted: oh yes they are :evil:
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And I still don't buy any kind of definitive morality about taking another life. Just because you feel that way, doesn't make it so.
how can you even pretend that it's not immoral to take another human life? that's what seperates us from the "monsters" that Chadwick keeps regailing us with stories of!
I'll say it for an 87th time..........and please answer this time...........someone........WHAT gives anyone the right to take the life of another human being? And don't use "they gave up their rights to live yadda yadda yadda". Where was it stated in some divine book that told you that they gave up their right to live for x crime? Who decided this? Tell me! Who??
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this is why i am amazed.
some of you have been existing in your lives, under a rock.
nobody would ever do those wild things you say, chad.
chadwick, you are stretching the story out of proportion
those nasty scary ppl don't exist, now stop it, nobody is that cruel.
:twisted: oh yes they are :evil:
under a rock?
sure.
i'm a critical care paramedic, and have seen more broken bodies and smashed in heads that you seem to be so fond of describing, than i care to remember.
that is an awesome job you are doing.
very well done.
And I still don't buy any kind of definitive morality about taking another life. Just because you feel that way, doesn't make it so.
how can you even pretend that it's not immoral to take another human life? that's what seperates us from the "monsters" that Chadwick keeps regailing us with stories of!
I'll say it for an 87th time..........and please answer this time...........someone........WHAT gives anyone the right to take the life of another human being? And don't use "they gave up their rights to live yadda yadda yadda". Where was it stated in some divine book that told you that they gave up their right to live for x crime? Who decided this? Tell me! Who??
why are you hiding from the real monsters i describe?
they are real crime reports.
happens all around the globe on a daily basis.
And I still don't buy any kind of definitive morality about taking another life. Just because you feel that way, doesn't make it so.
how can you even pretend that it's not immoral to take another human life? that's what seperates us from the "monsters" that Chadwick keeps regailing us with stories of!
I'll say it for an 87th time..........and please answer this time...........someone........WHAT gives anyone the right to take the life of another human being? And don't use "they gave up their rights to live yadda yadda yadda". Where was it stated in some divine book that told you that they gave up their right to live for x crime? Who decided this? Tell me! Who??
Where is your source that says taking anything's life is immoral? Your personal gut feeling? Tell me! Where? I could grease what I consider a monster without feeling like one myself... so where does that leave us? Both with our own opionions on the subject. Again, just because it makes sense to you, that still doesn't make it some universal truth.
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no one said this stuff didn't happen. we're just kind of getting tired of the drawn out explanations of what these people did or hypothetically did. don't you get it? no death penalty means no death penalty, under any circumstances? nothing real or dreamed up would matter to me. NO DEATH PENALTY.
this is why i am amazed.
some of you have been existing in your lives, under a rock.
nobody would ever do those wild things you say, chad.
chadwick, you are stretching the story out of proportion
those nasty scary ppl don't exist, now stop it, nobody is that cruel.
:twisted: oh yes they are :evil:
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So is prison (much more so in my opinion), but you are ok with that?
no i don't think anyone should be treated like an animal eyed. but unless you want them to move in with you 24/7, and you can keep them from murdering someone else, what's the alternative?
i don't know. i don't believe they should be out amongst the general population unless there is 100% certainty that they won't kill someone else.
And I still don't buy any kind of definitive morality about taking another life. Just because you feel that way, doesn't make it so.
how can you even pretend that it's not immoral to take another human life? that's what seperates us from the "monsters" that Chadwick keeps regailing us with stories of!
I'll say it for an 87th time..........and please answer this time...........someone........WHAT gives anyone the right to take the life of another human being? And don't use "they gave up their rights to live yadda yadda yadda". Where was it stated in some divine book that told you that they gave up their right to live for x crime? Who decided this? Tell me! Who??
why are you hiding from the real monsters i describe?
they are real crime reports.
happens all around the globe on a daily basis.
nobody is hiding from anything. where are these monsters that you feel the need to warn us of oh great catcher in the rye? why do you have no opinion on the other thread? because when faced with the reality of a real situation you don't speak up because you know you are wrong?
i hope your poetry is better than your rhetoric and hyperbole, otherwise nobody would buy it...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
not a gut feeling. you don't think you have a right to live? so do you think a woman doesn't have the right not to be raped? that a child doesn't have the right not to be abused? come on, buddy, that's weak and you know it. I don't care how far in the woods you live.
I think the onus of proof is on those that would take action, not those that would take inaction. Just like a defendant. The onus is left with those who wish to take away their rights, not the one that would keep them. Unless you still live under the rule of the dark ages, then I guess we can go find a girl, cry out "witch!" and then burn her at the stake.
And I still don't buy any kind of definitive morality about taking another life. Just because you feel that way, doesn't make it so.
how can you even pretend that it's not immoral to take another human life? that's what seperates us from the "monsters" that Chadwick keeps regailing us with stories of!
I'll say it for an 87th time..........and please answer this time...........someone........WHAT gives anyone the right to take the life of another human being? And don't use "they gave up their rights to live yadda yadda yadda". Where was it stated in some divine book that told you that they gave up their right to live for x crime? Who decided this? Tell me! Who??
Where is your source that says taking anything's life is immoral? Your personal gut feeling? Tell me! Where? I could grease what I consider a monster without feeling like one myself... so where does that leave us? Both with our own opionions on the subject. Again, just because it makes sense to you, that still doesn't make it some universal truth.
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And I still don't buy any kind of definitive morality about taking another life. Just because you feel that way, doesn't make it so.
how can you even pretend that it's not immoral to take another human life? that's what seperates us from the "monsters" that Chadwick keeps regailing us with stories of!
I'll say it for an 87th time..........and please answer this time...........someone........WHAT gives anyone the right to take the life of another human being? And don't use "they gave up their rights to live yadda yadda yadda". Where was it stated in some divine book that told you that they gave up their right to live for x crime? Who decided this? Tell me! Who??
ppl like eyed and myself and others in this thread who don't stand for evil bullshit.
governors and whatnot.
wardens, state suits and dci under cover international columbian cocaine division task force under handed shit.
off a predator?
no problem.
All I know is that I'd rather someone just kill me than send me to one of those places for the rest of my life.
i guess that's easy to say when you are not in that situation though eyed. and that's a choice you are making about what should happen to you. not someone else. do you at least concede that?
So is prison (much more so in my opinion), but you are ok with that?
no i don't think anyone should be treated like an animal eyed. but unless you want them to move in with you 24/7, and you can keep them from murdering someone else, what's the alternative?
i don't know. i don't believe they should be out amongst the general population unless there is 100% certainty that they won't kill someone else.
But then we are back to them possibly escaping and doing God knows what, or they stay behind bars possibly injuring or killing other prisoners or guards. That is the very realistic chance you take when wharehousing monsters. Why are those chances acceptable?
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no one said this stuff didn't happen. we're just kind of getting tired of the drawn out explanations of what these people did or hypothetically did. don't you get it? no death penalty means no death penalty, under any circumstances? nothing real or dreamed up would matter to me. NO DEATH PENALTY.
this is why i am amazed.
some of you have been existing in your lives, under a rock.
nobody would ever do those wild things you say, chad.
chadwick, you are stretching the story out of proportion
those nasty scary ppl don't exist, now stop it, nobody is that cruel.
:twisted: oh yes they are :evil:
someone right now
somewhere in the world
is being shot for being a monster.
All I know is that I'd rather someone just kill me than send me to one of those places for the rest of my life.
i guess that's easy to say when you are not in that situation though eyed. and that's a choice you are making about what should happen to you. not someone else. do you at least concede that?
I can barely make it through a work week before I have to escape to mountains and fresh air and no people. I would kill myself in a prison. They wouldn't need to. But yes, I do concede that. I think you have all made some good points and I don't think there is an easy solution. I see both sides of the discussion. I really do.
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nobody is hiding from anything. where are these monsters that you feel the need to warn us of oh great catcher in the rye? why do you have no opinion on the other thread? because when faced with the reality of a real situation you don't speak up because you know you are wrong?
i hope your poetry is better than your rhetoric and hyperbole, otherwise nobody would buy it...
nobody is hiding from anything. where are these monsters that you feel the need to warn us of oh great catcher in the rye? why do you have no opinion on the other thread? because when faced with the reality of a real situation you don't speak up because you know you are wrong?
i hope your poetry is better than your rhetoric and hyperbole, otherwise nobody would buy it...
what other thread, mr. guitars?
how foolish of me, this is the only thread you pay attention to...
and yes thank you my guitars are quite nice.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
But then we are back to them possibly escaping and doing God knows what, or they stay behind bars possibly injuring or killing other prisoners or guards. That is the very realistic chance you take when wharehousing monsters. Why are those chances acceptable?
i don't know how many times i have to say it. murdering the murderer doesn't make it right, in my opinion. state sanctioned murder is murder too. why is the life of the person that killed someone I love, considered an equal trade for my loved one? how can some total stranger assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up? It's not and it never will be.
nobody is hiding from anything. where are these monsters that you feel the need to warn us of oh great catcher in the rye? why do you have no opinion on the other thread? because when faced with the reality of a real situation you don't speak up because you know you are wrong?
i hope your poetry is better than your rhetoric and hyperbole, otherwise nobody would buy it...
what other thread, mr. guitars?
how foolish of me, this is the only thread you pay attention to...
and yes thank you my guitars are quite nice.
im all over these threads.
i have friends all over the world on here.
your little poetry book comment early was a stab at me.
i enjoyed it.
what is your music doing?
do death row immates have guitars, yes/no?
But then we are back to them possibly escaping and doing God knows what, or they stay behind bars possibly injuring or killing other prisoners or guards. That is the very realistic chance you take when wharehousing monsters. Why are those chances acceptable?
i don't know how many times i have to say it. murdering the murderer doesn't make it right, in my opinion. state sanctioned murder is murder too. why is the life of the person that killed someone I love, considered an equal trade for my loved one? how can some total stranger assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up? It's not and it never will be.
You're right, killing someone is not going to square up the past, or replace a lost or shattered love one. However, it might stop others from suffering the same unimaginable pain (actual victims and their loved ones).
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But then we are back to them possibly escaping and doing God knows what, or they stay behind bars possibly injuring or killing other prisoners or guards. That is the very realistic chance you take when wharehousing monsters. Why are those chances acceptable?
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Neither do I, thus this conversation. All I know is that I'd rather someone just kill me than send me to one of those places for the rest of my life.
But that's just it, people make life and death decisions for others all the time. I hear you saying that isn't right, however, it is what is. So we can deal with the universal right and wrong of things (where we will, oddly enough, find very little universal agreement), or we can deal with the reality of the situation.
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But then we are back to them possibly escaping and doing God knows what, or they stay behind bars possibly injuring or killing other prisoners or guards. That is the very realistic chance you take when wharehousing monsters. Why are those chances acceptable?
We're talking about somebody who has already done something horrible here, so the potential that it happens again is the issue.
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doesn't anyone find it mildly ironic that a lot of the pro Dp people tend to be conservative, right wing, or religious and one of the commandments they are supposed to follow is "thou shalt not kill"??
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sure.
i'm a critical care paramedic, and have seen more broken bodies and smashed in heads that you seem to be so fond of describing, than i care to remember.
So is prison (much more so in my opinion), but you are ok with that?
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how can you even pretend that it's not immoral to take another human life? that's what seperates us from the "monsters" that Chadwick keeps regailing us with stories of!
I'll say it for an 87th time..........and please answer this time...........someone........WHAT gives anyone the right to take the life of another human being? And don't use "they gave up their rights to live yadda yadda yadda". Where was it stated in some divine book that told you that they gave up their right to live for x crime? Who decided this? Tell me! Who??
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that is an awesome job you are doing.
very well done.
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no. I don't think it's fair to treat anyone like an animal, but I also don't know what the solution is. They don't deserve to be in Club Med either.
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they are real crime reports.
happens all around the globe on a daily basis.
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Where is your source that says taking anything's life is immoral? Your personal gut feeling? Tell me! Where? I could grease what I consider a monster without feeling like one myself... so where does that leave us? Both with our own opionions on the subject. Again, just because it makes sense to you, that still doesn't make it some universal truth.
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i don't know. i don't believe they should be out amongst the general population unless there is 100% certainty that they won't kill someone else.
i hope your poetry is better than your rhetoric and hyperbole, otherwise nobody would buy it...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Neither do I, thus this conversation. All I know is that I'd rather someone just kill me than send me to one of those places for the rest of my life.
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I think the onus of proof is on those that would take action, not those that would take inaction. Just like a defendant. The onus is left with those who wish to take away their rights, not the one that would keep them. Unless you still live under the rule of the dark ages, then I guess we can go find a girl, cry out "witch!" and then burn her at the stake.
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governors and whatnot.
wardens, state suits and dci under cover international columbian cocaine division task force under handed shit.
off a predator?
no problem.
:crazy: :wtf:
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I am tired; my heart is
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But then we are back to them possibly escaping and doing God knows what, or they stay behind bars possibly injuring or killing other prisoners or guards. That is the very realistic chance you take when wharehousing monsters. Why are those chances acceptable?
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somewhere in the world
is being shot for being a monster.
this is well done.
monsters should die.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
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I can barely make it through a work week before I have to escape to mountains and fresh air and no people. I would kill myself in a prison. They wouldn't need to. But yes, I do concede that. I think you have all made some good points and I don't think there is an easy solution. I see both sides of the discussion. I really do.
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and yes thank you my guitars are quite nice.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
ppl are affraid of the word death.
ppl are affraid to die.
if i were a piece of dog shit i'd be affraid to die too.
the darkness might not be so kind to a monster.
to me death is the beginning.
i hope when my chance comes along i can embrace the death and run with it.
the next light shall be life.
bad guys?
probably not very nice.
just my opinions... i have many :twisted:
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i have friends all over the world on here.
your little poetry book comment early was a stab at me.
i enjoyed it.
what is your music doing?
do death row immates have guitars, yes/no?
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I am tired; my heart is
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You're right, killing someone is not going to square up the past, or replace a lost or shattered love one. However, it might stop others from suffering the same unimaginable pain (actual victims and their loved ones).
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:roll:
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But that's just it, people make life and death decisions for others all the time. I hear you saying that isn't right, however, it is what is. So we can deal with the universal right and wrong of things (where we will, oddly enough, find very little universal agreement), or we can deal with the reality of the situation.
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We're talking about somebody who has already done something horrible here, so the potential that it happens again is the issue.
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