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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    scb wrote:
    So if you rape a 13-year-old girl should you get the death penalty?

    You're referring to Polanski? Personally, I think the Swiss did the right thing. He already served time in prison and since then has committed no similar offence, but has gone on to produce a bunch of acclaimed movies as well as get married and raise a family. I don't see how dragging up a 33 year old case would help anyone, the girl included, who has expressed her wish to see the case dropped. This is just a case of revenge on the part of the U.S authorities over the fact that he fled the country after the dodgy dealings of the corrupt judge in charge of the original case.

    Just my two-cents worth.


    Agree

    Also:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/jul ... d-33-years

    'In 1988 Samantha Geimer sued Polanski for the assault. They settled out of court in 1993 and she forgave him publicly 10 years later. Geimer, mother of three, went on to speak in support of his attempt to have the charges dismissed, accusing the district attorney's office of resurrecting "lurid details" of her assault to distract attention from its own wrongdoing. "True as they may be the continued publication of those details causes harm to me."'
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    chadwick wrote:
    ...

    would noah drown an evil preditor who was molesting and torturing children on his ship?
    throw the fucker overboard?...


    i dunno chad.. would noah throw one of his sons, daughters in law or his wife overboard???
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    chadwick wrote:
    ...

    would noah drown an evil preditor who was molesting and torturing children on his ship?
    throw the fucker overboard?...


    i dunno chad.. would noah throw one of his sons, daughters in law or his wife overboard???

    Actually this is why Unicorn's no longer exists. They were naughty with there horns. :(
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    It's funny you say this. I have thought of this many times, of what it would be like to hook up with certain people on the train, chill by a fire, and catch a little buzz chewing the fat.

    Some night i'd like to hang with:

    Chad
    Ed
    Triumphantangel
    commy
    gimmie
    prfctlefts
    scb
    g under p
    norm
    Godfather
    Byrnzie
    unsung
    Jeanwah

    Probably forgot a few that i'd like to meet, that's off the top of my head. Fuck, probably turn out to be a big ass fucking brawl anyways. :D

    Aw... I'm honored to have made the list. ;) And I'm down for chilling by a fire or a big ass brawl either way. :D
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    It's funny you say this. I have thought of this many times, of what it would be like to hook up with certain people on the train, chill by a fire, and catch a little buzz chewing the fat.

    Some night i'd like to hang with:

    Chad
    Ed
    Triumphantangel
    commy
    gimmie
    prfctlefts
    scb
    g under p
    norm
    Godfather
    Byrnzie
    unsung
    Jeanwah

    Probably forgot a few that i'd like to meet, that's off the top of my head. Fuck, probably turn out to be a big ass fucking brawl anyways. :D

    i have never traded thoughts with most of them ppl on your list.
    but i am willing to meet them all for the 39th annual good times event.
    bring all your wives and girl friends.
    that's where i'll be stationed with my weed, fancy drinks and pens. i
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

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    no more forever."

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    Chad I don't drink but if we ever hook up I'll have a few with you my friend ! :lol:

    Godfather.
    i don't drink either.
    very very rarely.

    and yes i would share a bottle of whiskey with you.
    or wine.

    sit around the campfire and get shitty.


    It's funny you say this. I have thought of this many times, of what it would be like to hook up with certain people on the train, chill by a fire, and catch a little buzz chewing the fat.

    Some night i'd like to hang with:

    Chad
    Ed
    Triumphantangel
    commy
    gimmie
    prfctlefts
    scb
    g under p
    norm
    Godfather
    Byrnzie
    unsung
    Jeanwah

    Probably forgot a few that i'd like to meet, that's off the top of my head. Fuck, probably turn out to be a big ass fucking brawl anyways. :D

    that would be soo cool, I don't enjoy a good brawl anymore the older I get the more unnecessary they seem to be. :D

    Godfather.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    scb wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    It's funny you say this. I have thought of this many times, of what it would be like to hook up with certain people on the train, chill by a fire, and catch a little buzz chewing the fat.

    Some night i'd like to hang with:

    Chad
    Ed
    Triumphantangel
    commy
    gimmie
    prfctlefts
    scb
    g under p
    norm
    Godfather
    Byrnzie
    unsung
    Jeanwah

    Probably forgot a few that i'd like to meet, that's off the top of my head. Fuck, probably turn out to be a big ass fucking brawl anyways. :D

    Aw... I'm honored to have made the list. ;) And I'm down for chilling by a fire or a big ass brawl either way. :D

    They're only inviting you because they know you'll bring protection. ;)

    Ok, I'm just bitter. ;)
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    who gets it today?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    OnTheEdge wrote:

    It's funny you say this. I have thought of this many times, of what it would be like to hook up with certain people on the train, chill by a fire, and catch a little buzz chewing the fat.

    Some night i'd like to hang with:

    Chad
    Ed
    Triumphantangel
    commy
    gimmie
    prfctlefts
    scb
    g under p
    norm
    Godfather
    Byrnzie
    unsung
    Jeanwah

    Probably forgot a few that i'd like to meet, that's off the top of my head. Fuck, probably turn out to be a big ass fucking brawl anyways. :D


    There's gonna be a brawl and I'm not invited? Probably for the best. I'd stop, drop, and roll every last one of you mofos... :twisted: Then I'd feed you to my mountain goats.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited July 2010
    eyedclaar wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:

    It's funny you say this. I have thought of this many times, of what it would be like to hook up with certain people on the train, chill by a fire, and catch a little buzz chewing the fat.

    Some night i'd like to hang with:

    Chad
    Ed
    Triumphantangel
    commy
    gimmie
    prfctlefts
    scb
    g under p
    norm
    Godfather
    Byrnzie
    unsung
    Jeanwah

    Probably forgot a few that i'd like to meet, that's off the top of my head. Fuck, probably turn out to be a big ass fucking brawl anyways. :D


    There's gonna be a brawl and I'm not invited? Probably for the best. I'd stop, drop, and roll every last one of you mofos... :twisted: Then I'd feed you to my mountain goats.

    i would write you a poem
    you would read it
    then fall over into a hole
    i am sorry.

    the whiskey goes down.

    do mountain goats eat their masters?
    will a mountain goat actually straddle a human being, dead or alive?

    all animal loving folks will be shot.
    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    scb wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    It's funny you say this. I have thought of this many times, of what it would be like to hook up with certain people on the train, chill by a fire, and catch a little buzz chewing the fat.

    Some night i'd like to hang with:

    Chad
    Ed
    Triumphantangel
    commy
    gimmie
    prfctlefts
    scb
    g under p
    norm
    Godfather
    Byrnzie
    unsung
    Jeanwah

    Probably forgot a few that i'd like to meet, that's off the top of my head. Fuck, probably turn out to be a big ass fucking brawl anyways. :D

    Aw... I'm honored to have made the list. ;) And I'm down for chilling by a fire or a big ass brawl either way. :D

    They're only inviting you because they know you'll bring protection. ;)

    Ok, I'm just bitter. ;)

    :lol::lol:
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    eyedclaar wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:

    It's funny you say this. I have thought of this many times, of what it would be like to hook up with certain people on the train, chill by a fire, and catch a little buzz chewing the fat.

    Some night i'd like to hang with:

    Chad
    Ed
    Triumphantangel
    commy
    gimmie
    prfctlefts
    scb
    g under p
    norm
    Godfather
    Byrnzie
    unsung
    Jeanwah

    Probably forgot a few that i'd like to meet, that's off the top of my head. Fuck, probably turn out to be a big ass fucking brawl anyways. :D


    There's gonna be a brawl and I'm not invited? Probably for the best. I'd stop, drop, and roll every last one of you mofos... :twisted: Then I'd feed you to my mountain goats.


    Let's just say that everyone on the Train would be invited. There.....that's better :thumbup: :D
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    eyedclaar wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:

    It's funny you say this. I have thought of this many times, of what it would be like to hook up with certain people on the train, chill by a fire, and catch a little buzz chewing the fat.

    Some night i'd like to hang with:

    Chad
    Ed
    Triumphantangel
    commy
    gimmie
    prfctlefts
    scb
    g under p
    norm
    Godfather
    Byrnzie
    unsung
    Jeanwah

    Probably forgot a few that i'd like to meet, that's off the top of my head. Fuck, probably turn out to be a big ass fucking brawl anyways. :D


    There's gonna be a brawl and I'm not invited? Probably for the best. I'd stop, drop, and roll every last one of you mofos... :twisted: Then I'd feed you to my mountain goats.

    the world's full of tough guy's.....and you have mountian goats...bahhhad guy. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Godfather. wrote:
    the world's full of tough guy's.....and you have mountian goats...bahhhad guy. :lol:

    Godfather.

    Everyone is tough until they are face to face with this guy, Godfather (if that is your real name). Trust me on this one.

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    the world's full of tough guy's.....and you have mountian goats...bahhhad guy. :lol:

    Godfather.

    Everyone is tough until they are face to face with this guy, Godfather (if that is your real name). Trust me on this one.

    not_the_mountain_goats_album_cover.jpg

    I see your point. :D

    Godfather.(deponding on who you talk to)
  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    ok
    great goat pics

    how 'bout that guy who blew up a plane
    killed 280
    did 11 days prison time for each victim
    allegedly got cancer in prison
    bp wants to drill somewhere
    has trouble with libya
    until this guy gets released so he can die at home with family and friends
    (very unlike the 280 he murdered at 31,000 feet above scotland
    a slow torturous death for many of them)
    and then,
    you won't believe this
    they release him and the deal is set between bp and libya

    when he was released he had days to live
    that was 2008
    he is still alive

    should he be?
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    ed243421 wrote:
    ok
    great goat pics

    how 'bout that guy who blew up a plane
    killed 280
    did 11 days prison time for each victim
    allegedly got cancer in prison
    bp wants to drill somewhere
    has trouble with libya
    until this guy gets released so he can die at home with family and friends
    (very unlike the 280 he murdered at 31,000 feet above scotland
    a slow torturous death for many of them)
    and then,
    you won't believe this
    they release him and the deal is set between bp and libya

    when he was released he had days to live
    that was 2008
    he is still alive

    should he be?
    what is this gentleman's name?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    chadwick wrote:
    ed243421 wrote:
    ok
    great goat pics

    how 'bout that guy who blew up a plane
    killed 280
    did 11 days prison time for each victim
    allegedly got cancer in prison
    bp wants to drill somewhere
    has trouble with libya
    until this guy gets released so he can die at home with family and friends
    (very unlike the 280 he murdered at 31,000 feet above scotland
    a slow torturous death for many of them)
    and then,
    you won't believe this
    they release him and the deal is set between bp and libya

    when he was released he had days to live
    that was 2008
    he is still alive

    should he be?
    what is this gentleman's name?

    Woody Allen......the sleeper :lol:

    Godfather.
  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    ed243421 wrote:
    ok
    great goat pics

    how 'bout that guy who blew up a plane
    killed 280
    did 11 days prison time for each victim
    allegedly got cancer in prison
    bp wants to drill somewhere
    has trouble with libya
    until this guy gets released so he can die at home with family and friends
    (very unlike the 280 he murdered at 31,000 feet above scotland
    a slow torturous death for many of them)
    and then,
    you won't believe this
    they release him and the deal is set between bp and libya

    when he was released he had days to live
    that was 2008
    he is still alive

    should he be?


    I remember this story. I remember yelling WTF really loud. So, I guess we should let Bernie Madoff out also to spend his last remaining days with his family :roll: . All I ask is for a little common sense in this world. Why is it so difficult?
  • My3rdEyeMy3rdEye Posts: 927
    ed243421 wrote:
    some guy in massachusetts just murdered his wife, mother-in-law, and 2 kids.
    obviously, some will say he should die (no death penalty in mass)
    and some will say he should live

    i'd like to hear from the people who "truthfully" think this guy has a "right to life"

    i understand i live in a state with no death penalty
    and this is just hypothetical

    Deep fry the fucker
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • TriumphantAngelTriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    ted nugent? oh please. I know he thinks that everyone is just dying to be like him, but that's not the case.

    why would anyone listen to that thing. he is so full of shit. he talks about war being the answer. he says ''whenever i hear anyone blurt out the obscenity that war is not the answer, you're looking at a retarded individual"

    gotta love that comment from the same individual that dodged the draft by pissing and shitting in his pants for at least ten days before his draft board physical, and not washing at all so he could get a deferment.

    biggest. hypocrite. ever.

    ugh. completely revolting. to the max.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Texas just put to death Peter Anthony Cantu for the June 1993 murders of 14-year-old Jennifer Ertman and 16-year-old Elizabeth Pena. He and four other gang members raped the two girls for over an hour and the brutally murdered them.

    Two of the other gang members were put to death in 2008. The other two were spared because they were under 18 years old when the rape and murder took place.

    Here are a few things the article mentions
    * It took 17 years for the verdict to be executed
    * Cantu was a model prisoner the past few years
    * Cantu has accepted full responsibility
    * The young girls were gang raped for over an hour and forced to perform oral sex
    * They were kicked, had their teeth knocked out, bones broken and were strangled with their own show laces
    * Cantu's brother turned him in after Cantu was bragging about the events the next day.

    One of the girls father made this comment:

    Ertman said if the death penalty was intended as a deterrent, all five members who had been sentenced to die should have been hanged from trees outside Houston City Hall years ago.

    "That would be a deterrent," he said.


    http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/peter-anthony-cantu-gang-leader-in-houston-texas-executed/19597777?test=latestnews
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  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Jason P wrote:
    Texas just put to death Peter Anthony Cantu for the June 1993 murders of 14-year-old Jennifer Ertman and 16-year-old Elizabeth Pena. He and four other gang members raped the two girls for over an hour and the brutally murdered them.

    Two of the other gang members were put to death in 2008. The other two were spared because they were under 18 years old when the rape and murder took place.

    Here are a few things the article mentions
    * It took 17 years for the verdict to be executed
    * Cantu was a model prisoner the past few years
    * Cantu has accepted full responsibility
    * The young girls were gang raped for over an hour and forced to perform oral sex
    * They were kicked, had their teeth knocked out, bones broken and were strangled with their own show laces
    * Cantu's brother turned him in after Cantu was bragging about the events the next day.

    One of the girls father made this comment:

    Ertman said if the death penalty was intended as a deterrent, all five members who had been sentenced to die should have been hanged from trees outside Houston City Hall years ago.

    "That would be a deterrent," he said.


    http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/peter-anthony-cantu-gang-leader-in-houston-texas-executed/19597777?test=latestnews



    They got what they deserved. Good job Texas, besides the fact that it took them so long.
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Jason P wrote:
    * The young girls were gang raped for over an hour and forced to perform oral sex

    I never really understood how someone could force oral sex, or even want to -- with the thought of someone biting off their pecker.

    I hear this all the time (rapist forcing oral sex), but i've never heard of a rapist having his pecker bit off. I couldnt imagine or ever know how it must feel for a woman to be raped, but maybe they could be taught to bite/kick some balls. Its too bad more rapists arent going around peckerless.

    Sad story that only ended in revenge after wasting TONS of taxpaer dollars.
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Jason P wrote:
    * The young girls were gang raped for over an hour and forced to perform oral sex

    I never really understood how someone could force oral sex, or even want to -- with the thought of someone biting off their pecker.

    I hear this all the time (rapist forcing oral sex), but i've never heard of a rapist having his pecker bit off. I couldnt imagine or ever know how it must feel for a woman to be raped, but maybe they could be taught to bite/kick some balls. Its too bad more rapists arent going around peckerless.

    Sad story that only ended in revenge after wasting TONS of taxpaer dollars.

    I'm sure there's a threat of worse things happening to you if you don't comply.
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    scb wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    * The young girls were gang raped for over an hour and forced to perform oral sex

    I never really understood how someone could force oral sex, or even want to -- with the thought of someone biting off their pecker.

    I hear this all the time (rapist forcing oral sex), but i've never heard of a rapist having his pecker bit off. I couldnt imagine or ever know how it must feel for a woman to be raped, but maybe they could be taught to bite/kick some balls. Its too bad more rapists arent going around peckerless.

    Sad story that only ended in revenge after wasting TONS of taxpaer dollars.

    I'm sure there's a threat of worse things happening to you if you don't comply.


    yeah, like having your throat crushed by somebodys boot. These fuckers died too easy as far as i'm concerned.
  • state-sanctioned murder is murder too. it's that simple. how any country can murder their own citizens and still claim to be civilized is beyond me.

    most democracies in the world have abandoned the death penalty.

    keep on killing to show killing is wrong.
  • state-sanctioned murder is murder too. it's that simple. how any country can murder their own citizens and still claim to be civilized is beyond me.

    most democracies in the world have abandoned the death penalty.

    keep on killing to show killing is wrong.
    Agreed. Killing another human is wrong. Once you even start to question that I think it starts to become a matter of mental health. It shouldn't be an emotional decision or used on an exception basis. It is pretty clear that it does not work as a deterrent. So it's coming from a bad place. A place of anger, revenge, hate.

    Bottom line is It's either right or wrong, and I think it's pretty clear that killing another human is wrong. I can't imagine a scenario where it is justified.
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