the death penalty

TriumphantAngel

chadwick wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

why is the life of the person that killed someone I love, considered an equal trade for my loved one? how can some total stranger assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up?

It's not and it never will be.

and please don't forget that the offender has a family too. brothers, sisters, parents, grandparents. why should they have to see their loved one murdered? they are innocent victims too.

it never squares it up, never will.
what it does do is stop the maniac thing from destroying other people's lives.
simple shit.

at this point it isn't even about revenge.
it's about stopping a twisted piece of shit from destroying more lives.

so put them in jail chadwick. don't murder them.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

eyedclaar wrote:

My Uncle, always an upstanding, close member of the family, was just convicted and sentenced for being a pedophile. Me = wash hands of that rat bastard for the rest of my life. My mom, on the other hand, still communicates with her brother. I guess it all depends. Probably easier to let go of an uncle than a brother.

so then, you support the idea of putting him to death, as some here would have us believe he deserves?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

chadwick wrote:

this one sick old piece of garbage has been in and out of prison so much it's nuts.
he likes little boys.
he was like 70 yrs old... that was 10-12 yrs ago.
he is a very dirty nasty old bastard.

when he is set free instantly he finds young boys and molests them.
he cannot be cured.
his head is fucked, his spirit is tainted.
he works for evil.

so we should just kill people because the justice system in your area is super-flawed??? MAKES SO MUCH SENSE! I CAN'T BELIEVE I DIDN'T SEE IT BEFORE! :roll:

arq

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

that is fucking horrible, arq. were you against the death penalty (or did you have a stance at all) before this happened to your family? does your whole family feel the same? was the killer caught? did they face the DP? if so, did it help you get over it?

were you against the death penalty?

I wasn't in favor, but normally we believe that those kind of thing could never happen to us, but the truth is it happens.

does your whole family feel the same?

Well my family is just my mom and I, I do have more family but i'm an only son, so even thou we always had (have) the support of our family my mom and I took the hardest blow.

was the killer caught? did they face the DP?

Nope, and nope

As a family we had plans, dreams and a lot of things coming, like everybody's family, in a second all that could change and you have to live a new reality, the death penalty is not going to solve that new reality but keeping the person in prison forever is like killing it in a way.

arq

TriumphantAngel wrote:

i am really sorry to hear that arq. i hope you and your family are ok. well as ok as you can be i guess.

Thanks, like i said to billy pumpkin we are living a new reality...

chadwick

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

chadwick wrote:

this one sick old piece of garbage has been in and out of prison so much it's nuts.
he likes little boys.
he was like 70 yrs old... that was 10-12 yrs ago.
he is a very dirty nasty old bastard.

when he is set free instantly he finds young boys and molests them.
he cannot be cured.
his head is fucked, his spirit is tainted.
he works for evil.

so we should just kill people because the justice system in your area is super-flawed??? MAKES SO MUCH SENSE! I CAN'T BELIEVE I DIDN'T SEE IT BEFORE! :roll:

hey dude.
the justice system isn't just flawed in my area.
wake up and look around.
the justice system is bullshit nation wide.

this is quality laughter.
i can't believe you typed that up.

ajedigecko

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

shoot him dead on his feet. that's called self-defence/preservation. the ONLY time killing is warranted.

chadwick wrote:

question...
you and your lover are alseep in bed.
your children are sound asleep down the hall.
it is 2:18am.

a knife wielding intruder slides a window open and crawls in.
you have a shotgun in your closet.

the knife wielding maniac wants to rape and kill everyone.
what do you do?

i call it.....instant death penalty.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

laugh all you like, but where I come from, pedophiles don't get "in and out of prison so much it's nuts".

I personally don't find that funny at all.

chadwick wrote:

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

chadwick wrote:

this one sick old piece of garbage has been in and out of prison so much it's nuts.
he likes little boys.
he was like 70 yrs old... that was 10-12 yrs ago.
he is a very dirty nasty old bastard.

when he is set free instantly he finds young boys and molests them.
he cannot be cured.
his head is fucked, his spirit is tainted.
he works for evil.

so we should just kill people because the justice system in your area is super-flawed??? MAKES SO MUCH SENSE! I CAN'T BELIEVE I DIDN'T SEE IT BEFORE! :roll:

hey dude.
the justice system isn't just flawed in my area.
wake up and look around.
the justice system is bullshit nation wide.

this is quality laughter.
i can't believe you typed that up.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

well, I guess we'll just chalk this up to ignorance of the law then.

ajedigecko wrote:

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

shoot him dead on his feet. that's called self-defence/preservation. the ONLY time killing is warranted.

chadwick wrote:

question...
you and your lover are alseep in bed.
your children are sound asleep down the hall.
it is 2:18am.

a knife wielding intruder slides a window open and crawls in.
you have a shotgun in your closet.

the knife wielding maniac wants to rape and kill everyone.
what do you do?

i call it.....instant death penalty.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

did this happen recently, arq?

arq wrote:

As a family we had plans, dreams and a lot of things coming, like everybody's family, in a second all that could change and you have to live a new reality, the death penalty is not going to solve that new reality but keeping the person in prison forever is like killing it in a way.

ajedigecko

eyedclaar wrote:

scb wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

if a family member of mine becomes a thing.......i will only have sympathy for the innocent victim.

I don't believe you. And I don't think you would consider someone you truly know & love to be a thing. And if others considered someone you love to be a thing, it would break your heart. And breaking the hearts of an innocent family is not right or productive, whether it's the family of the victim or the family of the "thing".

Of course I don't know you, and maybe you've had all kinds of experience with this kind if thing that I don't know about. But this is my theory anyway.

My Uncle, always an upstanding, close member of the family, was just convicted and sentenced for being a pedophile. Me = wash hands of that rat bastard for the rest of my life. My mom, on the other hand, still communicates with her brother. I guess it all depends. Probably easier to let go of an uncle than a brother.

poke out his eyes and cut off his balls(he can keep his ears and limbs for now)...........i would expect the same for any member of my family.

as eyed stated......i would wash myself clean, i never truly knew the person anyway.

chadwick

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

laugh all you like, but where I come from, pedophiles don't get "in and out of prison so much it's nuts".

I personally don't find that funny at all.
..........

you are right.
it's not at all funny.
i truly am not poking fun at you.

i believe what this boils down to is how each of us have been raised up from childhood.

arq

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

did this happen recently, arq?

arq wrote:

As a family we had plans, dreams and a lot of things coming, like everybody's family, in a second all that could change and you have to live a new reality, the death penalty is not going to solve that new reality but keeping the person in prison forever is like killing it in a way.

a little bit more than 6 years ago.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I would agree with that to a point, but there are many major human rights and racial issues that I disagree on with my parents, so there comes a point where you choose to agree with how you were brought up or not.

chadwick wrote:

i believe what this boils down to is how each of us have been raised up from childhood.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

ajedigecko wrote:

poke out his eyes and cut off his balls(he can keep his ears and limbs for now)...........i would expect the same for any member of my family.

as eyed stated......i would wash myself clean, i never truly knew the person anyway.

ok, but washing your hands clean of the person is quite a bit different from sending them to their death. what if this was your child that was convicted of this crime? would you want them sentenced to death? if so, I'd have a hard time distinguishing one monster from the other.

ajedigecko

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

poke out his eyes and cut off his balls(he can keep his ears and limbs for now)...........i would expect the same for any member of my family.

as eyed stated......i would wash myself clean, i never truly knew the person anyway.

ok, but washing your hands clean of the person is quite a bit different from sending them to their death. what if this was your child that was convicted of this crime? would you want them sentenced to death? if so, I'd have a hard time distinguishing one monster from the other.

i would accept the punishment for the behavior that warrants such punsihment........then as a parent, i would ask myself, what could i have done to help?

then the answer would reveal itself......my child became an adult and made a decision that is totally unacceptable.

there you go......now you can label me however you would like.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

are you a parent right now?

ajedigecko wrote:

i would accept the punishment for the behavior that warrants such punsihment........then as a parent, i would ask myself, what could i have done to help?

then the answer would reveal itself......my child became an adult and made a decision that is totally unacceptable.

there you go......now you can label me however you would like.

ajedigecko

why?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

because I personally can't believe a person who knows what it's like to be a parent would EVER actually accept a death sentence for their child in the name of justice, that's why.

ajedigecko wrote:

why?

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chadwick wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

why is the life of the person that killed someone I love, considered an equal trade for my loved one? how can some total stranger assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up?

It's not and it never will be.

and please don't forget that the offender has a family too. brothers, sisters, parents, grandparents. why should they have to see their loved one murdered? they are innocent victims too.

it never squares it up, never will.
what it does do is stop the maniac thing from destroying other people's lives.
simple shit.

at this point it isn't even about revenge.
it's about stopping a twisted piece of shit from destroying more lives.

So if there was another way to stop them, would you support that method instead?