the death penalty

TriumphantAngel

chadwick wrote:

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

"the thing" is sick, not evil. I can't imagine the horror of this happening to my 10 month old daughter. But what do you, Chadwick, do to the hospital who let him out days after he admitted to wanting to strangle the baby?? maybe we should give them "one quick bullet" too, since they could be culpable in this crime?

severely mentally ill or evil.
it's bullshit.
i have zero time for such things.

bullshit? anyone who denies the realities of mental illness, is incredibly irresponsible and dangerous.

i hope no one you care for ever falls victim to it because i sincerely feel for them with an attitude like yours. i hope they keep the fuck away from you because you would be a further detriment to their health.

TriumphantAngel

again, the death penalty is inhumane, sick and barbaric. state-sanctioned murder is murder too. it's that simple. how any country can murder their own citizens and still claim to be civilized is beyond me.

how many of the blood thirsty, revenge seeking people posting here, that are pro death penalty and pro rape in prisons, have actually had a member of their family murdered?

how many of you are posting your thoughts based on actual experience? how is murdering the murderer going to bring that person back? how is that going to make you feel better. nothing makes it better. one death is too many, two deaths changes not a damn thing.

chadwick

:yawn:

ajedigecko

we all have some form of mental illness.....that has been stated by a few of us.

if a family member of mine becomes a thing.......i will only have sympathy for the innocent victim.

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ajedigecko wrote:

if a family member of mine becomes a thing.......i will only have sympathy for the innocent victim.

I don't believe you. And I don't think you would consider someone you truly know & love to be a thing. And if others considered someone you love to be a thing, it would break your heart. And breaking the hearts of an innocent family is not right or productive, whether it's the family of the victim or the family of the "thing".

Of course I don't know you, and maybe you've had all kinds of experience with this kind if thing that I don't know about. But this is my theory anyway.

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TriumphantAngel wrote:

how many of the blood thirsty, revenge seeking people posting here, that are pro death penalty and pro rape in prisons, have actually had a member of their family murdered?

I would really like to know the answer to this too.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

scb wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

how many of the blood thirsty, revenge seeking people posting here, that are pro death penalty and pro rape in prisons, have actually had a member of their family murdered?

I would really like to know the answer to this too.

+1

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Blood thirst is never quenched, no matter who's holding the glass.

-Paul B.

arq

TriumphantAngel wrote:

...how many of you are posting your thoughts based on actual experience?..

My father was killed, i wish none of you have to pass through such an horrible experience but you don't know what side are you until you see live it, traumatic experiences may change your point of view in a second.

OnTheEdge

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

before I go, one quick question: aren't you PRO-LIFE, godfather? how can you be pro-life AND pro death penalty?

Godfather. wrote:

send him to some good ol' boys in the US and give him a quick lesson on gun control.

Godfather.

Or you could say: When it comes to unborn children, how can you be Pro-Choice? But when it comes to murderers and rapists and shit, you're then Pro-Life? Which one seems more out of whack?hmm

chadwick

question...
you and your lover are alseep in bed.
your children are sound asleep down the hall.
it is 2:18am.

a knife wielding intruder slides a window open and crawls in.
you have a shotgun in your closet.

the knife wielding maniac wants to rape and kill everyone.
what do you do?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I knew that was coming. I'm actually pro-choice with pro-life leanings. And by the way, I think being pro-life but being pro-death penalty is more out of whack than the opposite, just for the record. Especially when pro-lifers and pro-death penalty-ers seem to be the more religious folk. THAT is out of whack, if you ask me. Thou shalt not kill. Hello? Hypocrisy?

OnTheEdge wrote:

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

before I go, one quick question: aren't you PRO-LIFE, godfather? how can you be pro-life AND pro death penalty?

Godfather. wrote:

send him to some good ol' boys in the US and give him a quick lesson on gun control.

Godfather.

Or you could say: When it comes to unborn children, how can you be Pro-Choice? But when it comes to murderers and rapists and shit, you're then Pro-Life? Which one seems more out of whack?hmm

Hugh Freaking Dillon

shoot him dead on his feet. that's called self-defence/preservation. the ONLY time killing is warranted.

chadwick wrote:

question...
you and your lover are alseep in bed.
your children are sound asleep down the hall.
it is 2:18am.

a knife wielding intruder slides a window open and crawls in.
you have a shotgun in your closet.

the knife wielding maniac wants to rape and kill everyone.
what do you do?

eyedclaar

scb wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

if a family member of mine becomes a thing.......i will only have sympathy for the innocent victim.

I don't believe you. And I don't think you would consider someone you truly know & love to be a thing. And if others considered someone you love to be a thing, it would break your heart. And breaking the hearts of an innocent family is not right or productive, whether it's the family of the victim or the family of the "thing".

Of course I don't know you, and maybe you've had all kinds of experience with this kind if thing that I don't know about. But this is my theory anyway.

My Uncle, always an upstanding, close member of the family, was just convicted and sentenced for being a pedophile. Me = wash hands of that rat bastard for the rest of my life. My mom, on the other hand, still communicates with her brother. I guess it all depends. Probably easier to let go of an uncle than a brother.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

that is fucking horrible, arq. were you against the death penalty (or did you have a stance at all) before this happened to your family? does your whole family feel the same? was the killer caught? did they face the DP? if so, did it help you get over it?

arq wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

...how many of you are posting your thoughts based on actual experience?..

My father was killed, i wish none of you have to pass through such an horrible experience but you don't know what side are you until you see live it, traumatic experiences may change your point of view in a second.

chadwick

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

shoot him dead on his feet. that's called self-defence/preservation. the ONLY time killing is warranted.

chadwick wrote:

question...
you and your lover are alseep in bed.
your children are sound asleep down the hall.
it is 2:18am.

a knife wielding intruder slides a window open and crawls in.
you have a shotgun in your closet.

the knife wielding maniac wants to rape and kill everyone.
what do you do?

it's the same shit.
you had better stop the thing because if you do not
he will wield his knife again and slip through the shadows and into another family's home
with one thing on his mind, rape, torture, and murder.

it's just like the death penalty.
some "things" can't be fixed.

a person can be goofy nuts all jacked-up and mental
but cross the line and they should be stopped dead in their tracks.

serial child molesters never learn.
dad used to tell me about them all the time.

this one sick old piece of garbage has been in and out of prison so much it's nuts.
he likes little boys.
he was like 70 yrs old... that was 10-12 yrs ago.
he is a very dirty nasty old bastard.

when he is set free instantly he finds young boys and molests them.
he cannot be cured.
his head is fucked, his spirit is tainted.
he works for evil.

blow his brains out.
it is very simple.

TriumphantAngel

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

that is fucking horrible, arq. were you against the death penalty (or did you have a stance at all) before this happened to your family? does your whole family feel the same? was the killer caught? did they face the DP? if so, did it help you get over it?

arq wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

...how many of you are posting your thoughts based on actual experience?..

My father was killed, i wish none of you have to pass through such an horrible experience but you don't know what side are you until you see live it, traumatic experiences may change your point of view in a second.

i am really sorry to hear that arq. i hope you and your family are ok. well as ok as you can be i guess.

TriumphantAngel

why is the life of the person that killed someone I love, considered an equal trade for my loved one? how can some total stranger assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up?

It's not and it never will be.

and please don't forget that the offender has a family too. brothers, sisters, parents, grandparents. why should they have to see their loved one murdered? they are innocent victims too.

chadwick

TriumphantAngel wrote:

why is the life of the person that killed someone I love, considered an equal trade for my loved one? how can some total stranger assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up?

It's not and it never will be.

and please don't forget that the offender has a family too. brothers, sisters, parents, grandparents. why should they have to see their loved one murdered? they are innocent victims too.

it never squares it up, never will.
what it does do is stop the maniac thing from destroying other people's lives.
simple shit.

at this point it isn't even about revenge.
it's about stopping a twisted piece of shit from destroying more lives.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

check the laws in the civilized world. self-defence and killing out of some skewed sense of societal protection responsibility are so NOT the same, comments like these are what concerns people about your state of mind.

chadwick wrote:

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

shoot him dead on his feet. that's called self-defence/preservation. the ONLY time killing is warranted.

chadwick wrote:

question...
you and your lover are alseep in bed.
your children are sound asleep down the hall.
it is 2:18am.

a knife wielding intruder slides a window open and crawls in.
you have a shotgun in your closet.

the knife wielding maniac wants to rape and kill everyone.
what do you do?

it's the same shit.
you had better stop the thing because if you do not
he will wield his knife again and slip through the shadows and into another family's home
with one thing on his mind, rape, torture, and murder.

it's just like the death penalty.
some "things" can't be fixed.

a person can be goofy nuts all jacked-up and mental
but cross the line and they should be stopped dead in their tracks.

serial child molesters never learn.
dad used to tell me about them all the time.

this one sick old piece of garbage has been in and out of prison so much it's nuts.
he likes little boys.
he was like 70 yrs old... that was 10-12 yrs ago.
he is a very dirty nasty old bastard.

when he is set free instantly he finds young boys and molests them.
he cannot be cured.
his head is fucked, his spirit is tainted.
he works for evil.

blow his brains out.
it is very simple.