the death penalty

chadwick

Godfather. wrote:

man what a crazy debate, I'm on the fence on this one but just for shyts and giggles can any of you give a honest answer as to why a convicted murder'er should not be killed for his crime ? and opinions don't count cause we all have them and yours is no more correct than mine, if I agreed with capital punishment I would say in support of it that exacution is the best way to make sure this person dose not kill again, there have been many people that got out of prison and killed again or raped again or molested a young boy or girl again, it's like using your family and friends as human ginnie pigs...OHHH dang he killed again that person would still be alive if we wacked him the first time..do you get what I'm saying ?
and life in prison...many people have escaped and killed and even if they don't the cost to house a inmate a year is a butt load of money and guess who pays for that, you know when a animal attacks or even kills a human that animal is killed and most people agree with that..a animal with animal instincts to survive vs. a human with the power of reason "wright and wrong" is given 20 years to life or life with out parol where that person is fed and housed with t.v a gym and even a job to earn money to spend in the prison store...no justice some would say.
as for me i honestly don't know if it's o.k to take a human life for any reason..I really don't know ?

Godfather.

exactly...
people will cage & whip a tiger or an elephant for some bullshit circus.
when that tiger or elephant snaps and attacks and injures or kills someone they put the tiger or elephant down.
beating a caged tiger, beating a caged elephant forcing them to do fun tricks.
yeah, that's fantastic.
i can't wait to be part of that.

feed the bad people to hungry tigers.
use the remains for the elephant to crap on.
easy as that.

btw, i love tigers and elephants
the worst tigers and the worst elephants on earth are better than the worst ppl on earth by a landslide.

chadwick

catefrances wrote:

chadwick wrote:

i feel some of you are soft and full of shit.
end of story.
bring on the bullet and skull.

now, let me be while i meditate and enjoy my hummingbird sanctuary.

i feel that some of us are being judged for believing in the sanctity of ALL human life.

what i would like to know is who decided humans would be judge jury and executioner??? oh thats right humans did. and look what a stellar job weve done so far.... killing the planet and killing ourselves with hate and retribution. and all for an eye for an eye, honour killings... what??? do not tell us we are soft and full of shit simply because weve chosen not to kill seek revenge and can see no rightness in execution.

sanctity of all human life my fuckin ass.
i already knew what sanctity meant but i went ahead and looked it up on microsoft word.
i refuse to respect and show sacred reverence to a maniac.

SANCTITY...
1. sacredness: the condition of being considered sacred or holy, and therefore entitled to respect and reverence
2. holy thing: something considered holy or sacred (formal)

Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

catefrances

chadwick wrote:

catefrances wrote:

chadwick wrote:

i feel some of you are soft and full of shit.
end of story.
bring on the bullet and skull.

now, let me be while i meditate and enjoy my hummingbird sanctuary.

i feel that some of us are being judged for believing in the sanctity of ALL human life.

what i would like to know is who decided humans would be judge jury and executioner??? oh thats right humans did. and look what a stellar job weve done so far.... killing the planet and killing ourselves with hate and retribution. and all for an eye for an eye, honour killings... what??? do not tell us we are soft and full of shit simply because weve chosen not to kill seek revenge and can see no rightness in execution.

sanctity of all human life my fuckin ass.
i already knew what sanctity meant but i went ahead and looked it up on microsoft word.
i refuse to respect and show sacred reverence to a maniac.

SANCTITY...
1. sacredness: the condition of being considered sacred or holy, and therefore entitled to respect and reverence
2. holy thing: something considered holy or sacred (formal)

Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

chad im sure you know me well enough to know i dont use it in the religious sense of the word. tis not the maniac im respecting but life. you know im not some touchy feely airy fairy person with their head in clouds loving everyone and singing kumbaya round the bonfire.. heck the only reason im a vegetarian is not cause cause of some reverance i hold for ALL creatures(cause hell we gotta eat) but simply for aesthetic reasons... meat is just icky.

and on a general note... i just hope none of your little darlings grow up and murder somemone... cause im thinking perhaps the tune may well change.

chadwick

catefrances wrote:

chad im sure you know me well enough to know i dont use it in the religious sense of the word. tis not the maniac im respecting but life. you know im not some touchy feely airy fairy person with their head in clouds loving everyone and singing kumbaya round the bonfire.. heck the only reason im a vegetarian is not cause cause of some reverance i hold for ALL creatures(cause hell we gotta eat) but simply for aesthetic reasons... meat is just icky.

and on a general note... i just hope none of your little darlings grow up and murder somemone... cause im thinking perhaps the tune may well change.

catester,
you're my buddy. (yes i know you well)
that's all i gotta say at this time.

one more thing... if my little darlings grow up to be whack jobs, they're in deep shit.
(it would be tramatic for me im sure)
also, i have no little darlings as of yet.

OnTheEdge

Haven't been on this post for a while so i haven't read all the pages but i did see people talking about how executing someone costs million of dollars? I don't get this. If putting the person to rest by injection is so expensive why not just shoot the piece of shit? Bullets are not that expensive.

Eye for an Eye

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Godfather. wrote:

man what a crazy debate, I'm on the fence on this one but just for shyts and giggles can any of you give a honest answer as to why a convicted murder'er should not be killed for his crime ? and opinions don't count cause we all have them and yours is no more correct than mine, if I agreed with capital punishment I would say in support of it that exacution is the best way to make sure this person dose not kill again, there have been many people that got out of prison and killed again or raped again or molested a young boy or girl again, it's like using your family and friends as human ginnie pigs...OHHH dang he killed again that person would still be alive if we wacked him the first time..do you get what I'm saying ?
and life in prison...many people have escaped and killed and even if they don't the cost to house a inmate a year is a butt load of money and guess who pays for that, you know when a animal attacks or even kills a human that animal is killed and most people agree with that..a animal with animal instincts to survive vs. a human with the power of reason "wright and wrong" is given 20 years to life or life with out parol where that person is fed and housed with t.v a gym and even a job to earn money to spend in the prison store...no justice some would say.
as for me i honestly don't know if it's o.k to take a human life for any reason..I really don't know ?

Godfather.

someone should not be killed for their crime because it's not anyone's right to decide the fate of anyone else. that's it.

so we should kill all convicted killers/rapists/pedophiles just out of fear for society? wow, better get the needles ready, there's gonna be a long line up.

Fact: it cost more money in the judicial process to put someone to death than it is for a life sentence.

I don't know who you are talking to, but I don't know many, if any, people that agree with putting down a circus animal that goes crazy. If anything, I'm cheering on the brute as it mauls its trainer (see: abuser). Humans capture wild animals and beat them into performing for our own amusement, the thing goes nuts, for GOOD FUCKING REASON, and we blame the animal and kill it. See how stupid that is? Just as stupid capital punishment.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

OnTheEdge wrote:

Haven't been on this post for a while so i haven't read all the pages but i did see people talking about how executing someone costs million of dollars? I don't get this. If putting the person to rest by injection is so expensive why not just shoot the piece of shit? Bullets are not that expensive.

Eye for an Eye

it's not the act of killing someone that costs the money. it's the endless appeals and the waste of court time and money to exhaust all avenues to "make sure they got the right guy".

chadwick

OnTheEdge wrote:

Haven't been on this post for a while so i haven't read all the pages but i did see people talking about how executing someone costs million of dollars? I don't get this. If putting the person to rest by injection is so expensive why not just shoot the piece of shit? Bullets are not that expensive.

Eye for an Eye

i am assuming it's the legal dealings that tie up the court system.
see, it's always the lawyers.

breathing lawyers = bad.
none breathing lawyers = good

OnTheEdge

So instead of fixing the system to work better and save money.....we just let the scum bags live.

And prison is not a Hilton, but some are not too far off.

T.V.
Ping Pong
Pool Table
Weight Room
Conjicle visits (<

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no i'm not sure how to spell it and don't care)
Letters and visitations from loved ones.
Smoke a good cig.
Play basketball on the court.
etc.etc.etc.etc.

How many of these things does the person that this guy slaughtered get to do?????

catefrances

im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.

OnTheEdge

catefrances wrote:

im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.

Depends who they are.

I would say sombody like Jeff Dahlmer isn't worth spending a whole lot of money on.

If someone killed a child of yours or a child you are close to....how much monetary value would you put on their life?

chadwick

OnTheEdge wrote:

catefrances wrote:

im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.

Depends who they are.

I would say sombody like Jeff Dahlmer isn't worth spending a whole lot of money on.

exactly...
oh by the way... he got shanked in the clink..
nicely done.

how much is gary ridgway worth?
to my notion he is worth zero.

the list goes on.

Godfather.

catefrances wrote:

im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.

good question, more kill for money than any other reason so why should we spare a life for a life that was taken for money, and your question is opinion based, is there a dollar value on human emotion ?.....who said money can't buy you love.

Godfather.

Cosmo

OnTheEdge wrote:

So instead of fixing the system to work better and save money.....we just let the scum bags live.

And prison is not a Hilton, but some are not too far off.

T.V.
Ping Pong
Pool Table
Weight Room
Conjicle visits (<

---

no i'm not sure how to spell it and don't care)
Letters and visitations from loved ones.
Smoke a good cig.
Play basketball on the court.
etc.etc.etc.etc.

How many of these things does the person that this guy slaughtered get to do?????

...
You forgot the nightly ass raping and being forced to suck cock.
Where does that fit into list of luxuries?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

catefrances wrote:

im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.

it comes into the equation when pro-DPers try to say it's cheaper to kill the convict, my point is that it actually isn't. But like I said before, even if it was free to put them to death, that's still no reason to do so.

OnTheEdge

Cosmo wrote:

OnTheEdge wrote:

So instead of fixing the system to work better and save money.....we just let the scum bags live.

And prison is not a Hilton, but some are not too far off.

T.V.
Ping Pong
Pool Table
Weight Room
Conjicle visits (<

---

no i'm not sure how to spell it and don't care)
Letters and visitations from loved ones.
Smoke a good cig.
Play basketball on the court.
etc.etc.etc.etc.

How many of these things does the person that this guy slaughtered get to do?????

...
You forgot the nightly ass raping and being forced to suck cock.
Where does that fit into list of luxuries?

Poor pedophile raping murderers......I feel for them

catefrances

OnTheEdge wrote:

catefrances wrote:

im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.

Depends who they are.

I would say sombody like Jeff Dahlmer isn't worth spending a whole lot of money on.

If someone killed a child of yours or a child you are close to....how much monetary value would you put on their life?

my children are priceless. their worth is immeasurable to me. but that doesnt mean i want a murderer dead. nor does it mean i have the right to seek vengeance.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. have you ever seen what the life of an inmate is actually like? there are many out there that believe that even locking people up is inhumane, but it's the only solution we have at the moment.

the only ones that are "not too far off" a Hilton as you put it, are the ones that Martha Stewart stayed in. That's white collar criminal minor offenses, nothing that would warrant a life sentence or the death penalty.

OnTheEdge wrote:

So instead of fixing the system to work better and save money.....we just let the scum bags live.

And prison is not a Hilton, but some are not too far off.

T.V.
Ping Pong
Pool Table
Weight Room
Conjicle visits (<

---

no i'm not sure how to spell it and don't care)
Letters and visitations from loved ones.
Smoke a good cig.
Play basketball on the court.
etc.etc.etc.etc.

How many of these things does the person that this guy slaughtered get to do?????

Hugh Freaking Dillon

catefrances wrote:

my children are priceless. their worth is immeasurable to me.

:thumbup:

OnTheEdge

catefrances wrote:

OnTheEdge wrote:

catefrances wrote:

im not understanding why money comes into the equation. can someone tell me exactly how much a life is worth is cause i dont put a monetary value on it.

Depends who they are.

I would say sombody like Jeff Dahlmer isn't worth spending a whole lot of money on.

If someone killed a child of yours or a child you are close to....how much monetary value would you put on their life?

my children are priceless. their worth is immeasurable to me.

Right there with ya!