The official $92.05 is Too much Thread

gregkitefan

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

stranger34 wrote:

hy·poc·ri·sy (h-pkr-s)
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies
1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2. An act or instance of such falseness.

If we all agree with you, will you finally stop your little repetitive crusade?

Good stuff.

gndcd402

i'm not reading thru 20+ pages of this, let me just state that i 100% agree with the OP. prices are getting ridiculous around here. as i've stated many times on here already, pj's ticket prices have rose over 50% since 2003 and that is counting inflation.

and people who say opening bands need paid, how is it that muse booked a MUCH bigger opening band (silversun pickups) and still had cheaper tickets than pearl jam?!

but all in all stranger34, i've tried many times on here but there is absolutely no reasoning with a majority of the people on this board

stranger34

gndcd402 wrote:

i'm not reading thru 20+ pages of this, let me just state that i 100% agree with the OP. prices are getting ridiculous around here. as i've stated many times on here already, pj's ticket prices have rose over 50% since 2003 and that is counting inflation.

and people who say opening bands need paid, how is it that muse booked a MUCH bigger opening band (silversun pickups) and still had cheaper tickets than pearl jam?!

but all in all stranger34, i've tried many times on here but there is absolutely no reasoning with a majority of the people on this board

23 Pages later... I learned that the hard way. A lot of people do see it though, but more don't get it. I think the people who see lots of live music know that PJ is no bargain at this point, but the people who are almost exclusively PJammers just see it as "I'll gladly pay whatever they ask... it's worth it"

Muse@the garden is a perfect example of why PJ does not need to be charging what they are...

EasyE

Good thread. Although, our opinions of $92 per ticket are meaningless. If the show sells out or reaches 90 percent sellout, the price is right. If not, it's too high.

I suspect a near sellout in this case. So, the price is right and the band is trying to recover it's actual value to consumers. Then, the band takes ticket revenue and pays themselves and employees and other costs. I do not see this as dishonest or unseemly.

I did think Ed's solo show for Oracle software sales people in Hawaii at which he sang with the children of a V.P. as unseemly. That was a bit more complicated because Ed sold himself on that tour as honest if unpolished. I just felt the Oracle show should have been public knowledge. If its not public knowledge, then stop portraying the solo tour as a unique "Chris McCandless-esque" journey. This incident still stands as the biggest blow to Ed's integrity, in my mind.

In the case of the $92 ticket, the paying public is informed and has a choice. Pearl Jam has a right (and duty to its employees) to collect their actual value, which was part of the point of the above price elasticity post. Maybe the above Hawaii show provided bonuses to the solo tour staff. Fine. But, the members-only appearance on a hotel stage undermined the essence of the solo tour.

It's out there for every ticket buyer to consider: Pay $92 or don't. That's fair.

blondieblue227

one ticket used to be the same price as a cd. ...not too long ago.

read rolling stone's article on TM's prices here:
http://ivys2cents.blogspot.com/2009/08/ ... ckets.html

stranger34

EasyE wrote:

Good thread. Although, our opinions of $92 per ticket are meaningless. If the show sells out or reaches 90 percent sellout, the price is right. If not, it's too high.

I suspect a near sellout in this case. So, the price is right and the band is trying to recover it's actual value to consumers. Then, the band takes ticket revenue and pays themselves and employees and other costs. I do not see this as dishonest or unseemly.

I did think Ed's solo show for Oracle software sales people in Hawaii at which he sang with the children of a V.P. as unseemly. That was a bit more complicated because Ed sold himself on that tour as honest if unpolished. I just felt the Oracle show should have been public knowledge. If its not public knowledge, then stop portraying the solo tour as a unique "Chris McCandless-esque" journey. This incident still stands as the biggest blow to Ed's integrity, in my mind.

In the case of the $92 ticket, the paying public is informed and has a choice. Pearl Jam has a right (and duty to its employees) to collect their actual value, which was part of the point of the above price elasticity post. Maybe the above Hawaii show provided bonuses to the solo tour staff. Fine. But, the members-only appearance on a hotel stage undermined the essence of the solo tour.

It's out there for every ticket buyer to consider: Pay $92 or don't. That's fair.

ok yea from a business school case study perspective it's fine...

but when the lead singer spent a decade with his panties in a bunch about the price of concert tickets being too high and admirably fought to keep PL tix low and wore it as a badge of honor... I'm sorry but they asked to be held to a higher standard.

What you are saying is totally true and plenty of bands like Kiss and Aerosmith see it your way I'm sure.

JR140627

I'm very confused as to why all of you complain so much about Pearl Jam, yet you're still reading the Pearl Jam message boards. They have done so much for their fans over the years that absolutely nobody has any right to complain whatsoever. If you could sell a house for $500,000 as opposed to $400,000, which amount of money would you take. So if they can sell out concerts for $90 (remember...some of that is venue/parking/ticketmaster charges) as opposed to selling out concerts for $60, wouldn't you charge $90?

Sorry, this post is just so ridiculous...I can't believe I'm wasting my time on it. I bought my tickets for the Virginia show and I can't wait. I saw them twice in Philly last fall and it was awesome. My wife dragged me to a Maroon 5 show once. $70 for 90 minutes of concert. Coldplay was $100 for 90 minutes of concert. Pearl Jam is $90 for 150 minutes of concert. That's a lot more concert for the money in my opinion.

slightofjeff

cincybearcat wrote:

Can someone please remind me when Tom Petty, Lady Gaga, New Kids on the block, Iron Maiden, or any of these other bands use to publicly state a need to keep ticket prices down?

Have any of them ever gotten on top of their high horse and berated other bands for charging so much?

If they have never done that, then none of them compare to Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam put themselves out there through their actions and words in the past and now they are silent as they change their actions.

If you hate something, don't you do it too

When does the statute of limitations run out on the whole Ticketmaster thing? Or if you believe one thing in 1995, you have to believe the same thing for the rest of your life?

You should see all the dumbass shit I supported in 1995. People grow up. They get less strident. Their values change.

So what? Just think about all the money these guys saved you back in the day and be happy.

why now u dont bitching

teflonsteve wrote:

This band used to make things available to the COMMON MAN

I didn't even know he was a fan.

PJam82

slightofjeff wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Can someone please remind me when Tom Petty, Lady Gaga, New Kids on the block, Iron Maiden, or any of these other bands use to publicly state a need to keep ticket prices down?

Have any of them ever gotten on top of their high horse and berated other bands for charging so much?

If they have never done that, then none of them compare to Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam put themselves out there through their actions and words in the past and now they are silent as they change their actions.

If you hate something, don't you do it too

When does the statute of limitations run out on the whole Ticketmaster thing? Or if you believe one thing in 1995, you have to believe the same thing for the rest of your life?

You should see all the dumbass shit I supported in 1995. People grow up. They get less strident. Their values change.

So what? Just think about all the money these guys saved you back in the day and be happy.

I look at it in a similar way....I mean, who here still makes what they did in 1995 and has refused a slight pay increase every few years since then? I doubt oh...ANYONE.

vedder_soup

might i remind you all again how much tickets were in Australia and NZ last year!
http://pearljam.com/news/australia-and- ... nformation

DATE CITY VENUE 10C PRESALE PRICE/PAIR
Nov 14 Perth Member's Equity Stadium Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $239.00 USD
Nov 17 Adelaide Adelaide Cricket Ground Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $239.00 USD
Nov 20 Melbourne Ettihad Stadium Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $239.00 USD
Nov 22 Sydney Sydney Football Stadium Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $239.00 USD
Nov 25 Brisbane QSAC Stadium Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $239.00 USD
Nov 27 Auckland, NZ Mt Smart Stadium Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $186.00 USD
Nov 29 Christchurch, NZ Jade Stadium Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $186.00 USD

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

PJam82 wrote:

slightofjeff wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Can someone please remind me when Tom Petty, Lady Gaga, New Kids on the block, Iron Maiden, or any of these other bands use to publicly state a need to keep ticket prices down?

Have any of them ever gotten on top of their high horse and berated other bands for charging so much?

If they have never done that, then none of them compare to Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam put themselves out there through their actions and words in the past and now they are silent as they change their actions.

If you hate something, don't you do it too

When does the statute of limitations run out on the whole Ticketmaster thing? Or if you believe one thing in 1995, you have to believe the same thing for the rest of your life?

You should see all the dumbass shit I supported in 1995. People grow up. They get less strident. Their values change.

So what? Just think about all the money these guys saved you back in the day and be happy.

I look at it in a similar way....I mean, who here still makes what they did in 1995 and has refused a slight pay increase every few years since then? I doubt oh...ANYONE.

it was more than just a slight pay increase, but anyway there is nothing wrong with changing your mind. i just better not hear Eddie bitching about it anymore. but i dont think he has.

polaris_x

gndcd402 wrote:

but all in all stranger34, i've tried many times on here but there is absolutely no reasoning with a majority of the people on this board

the same could be said of you guys ...

compare them with any other bands and/or comparable evenings out ... they will always be on the low end of the scale ... sure, there is phish, radiohead and whatever number of bands but there is a shitload of other bands that charge way more ... compare them to hockey, basketball tickets ... heck baseball tickets ... i wonder what the average ticket price of a yankee game is ...

the fact of the matter is that they have kept their prices low ... just not low enough for you guys apparently ...

and cincy - the point of comparing them to those bands is to simply point out that they are low ...

JonnyPistachio

BF25394 wrote:

It doesn't support your point. Inflation would have had to have been three times what it was for your explanation to work for a 2000-vs.-2010 comparison. But the references here haven't even been to 2000-- they have been to 2003 and 2006, when the difference is even less. What cost $55 in 2003 would cost $64 today. What cost $55 in 2006 would cost $58 today.

yes it does. I wasnt counting every penny. Dont look at it so literally... the point is that things cost more now than they did 10 yrs ago. period.

dunkman

vedder_soup wrote:

might i remind you all again how much tickets were in Australia and NZ last year!
http://pearljam.com/news/australia-and- ... nformation

DATE CITY VENUE 10C PRESALE PRICE/PAIR
Nov 14 Perth Member's Equity Stadium Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $239.00 USD
Nov 17 Adelaide Adelaide Cricket Ground Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $239.00 USD
Nov 20 Melbourne Ettihad Stadium Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $239.00 USD
Nov 22 Sydney Sydney Football Stadium Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $239.00 USD
Nov 25 Brisbane QSAC Stadium Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $239.00 USD
Nov 27 Auckland, NZ Mt Smart Stadium Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $186.00 USD
Nov 29 Christchurch, NZ Jade Stadium Aug-7 @ 8am (NSW time) $186.00 USD

they had to buy a lot of shrimps for the barbie for that tour though!

JonnyPistachio

slightofjeff wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Can someone please remind me when Tom Petty, Lady Gaga, New Kids on the block, Iron Maiden, or any of these other bands use to publicly state a need to keep ticket prices down?

Have any of them ever gotten on top of their high horse and berated other bands for charging so much?

If they have never done that, then none of them compare to Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam put themselves out there through their actions and words in the past and now they are silent as they change their actions.

If you hate something, don't you do it too

When does the statute of limitations run out on the whole Ticketmaster thing? Or if you believe one thing in 1995, you have to believe the same thing for the rest of your life?

You should see all the dumbass shit I supported in 1995. People grow up. They get less strident. Their values change.

So what? Just think about all the money these guys saved you back in the day and be happy.

very good point.

CantKeepmedown

stranger34 wrote:

Green Day was probably cheaper...

I go to shows at MSG all the time and I've only once paid more than what I'm paying for PJ and that was when Billy Joel set a flat face rate of like $90

If you're so upset about the price of PJ tix, why did you end up getting them? Were they given to you?

JonnyPistachio

blondieblue227 wrote:

one ticket used to be the same price as a cd. ...not too long ago.

read rolling stone's article on TM's prices here:
http://ivys2cents.blogspot.com/2009/08/ ... ckets.html

For PJ? Not too long ago!? relatively speaking to what? I guess if you think dinosaurs roamed the planet not too long ago.

ComeToTX

JonnyPistachio wrote:

slightofjeff wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Can someone please remind me when Tom Petty, Lady Gaga, New Kids on the block, Iron Maiden, or any of these other bands use to publicly state a need to keep ticket prices down?

Have any of them ever gotten on top of their high horse and berated other bands for charging so much?

If they have never done that, then none of them compare to Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam put themselves out there through their actions and words in the past and now they are silent as they change their actions.

If you hate something, don't you do it too

When does the statute of limitations run out on the whole Ticketmaster thing? Or if you believe one thing in 1995, you have to believe the same thing for the rest of your life?

You should see all the dumbass shit I supported in 1995. People grow up. They get less strident. Their values change.

So what? Just think about all the money these guys saved you back in the day and be happy.

very good point.

we're not talking about '95 though. we're talking about 2003.

slightofjeff

ComeToTX wrote:

we're not talking about '95 though. we're talking about 2003.

Why are we talking about 2003? Pearl Jam made their stand against high ticket prices in the early 90s ... not the early 00s.

2003 is irrelevant to that discussion.