I once heard a scientist use an example of putting the pieces of a model airplane into a dryer, turning it on and at the end of the cycle the airplane comes out put together perfectly. He said the odds of that happening are better then the odds of this planet coming together so perfectly by accident.
People need to look at our planet and realise how perfect and beautiful and complicated it is. Once you do that then how can you not see that our planet was put together by design. Our planet is the ultimate evidence of God's existence!!! To not see and comprehend that is naive and ignorant. Way too many people take everything for granted!
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I once heard a scientist use an example of putting the pieces of a model airplane into a dryer, turning it on and at the end of the cycle the airplane comes out put together perfectly. He said the odds of that happening are better then the odds of this planet coming together so perfectly by accident.
I'd be curious the name of that particular scientist.
And since we're talking about odds, there are millions-of-billions of planets in the universe (estimated at 3 planets per star, on average). Scientists say that there is practically no chance that there is not intelligent life on other planets. So, when the intelligent life on other planets die, do they go to heaven? Or hell? Are they believers in Christianity? If not, are they punished?
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I once heard a scientist use an example of putting the pieces of a model airplane into a dryer, turning it on and at the end of the cycle the airplane comes out put together perfectly. He said the odds of that happening are better then the odds of this planet coming together so perfectly by accident.
I'd be curious the name of that particular scientist.
And since we're talking about odds, there are millions-of-billions of planets in the universe (estimated at 3 planets per star, on average). Scientists say that there is practically no chance that there is not intelligent life on other planets. So, when the intelligent life on other planets die, do they go to heaven? Or hell? Are they believers in Christianity? If not, are they punished?
None of this is proven fact! Only theories. Also, I said nothing about Christianity or heaven & hell. Only that there must be a God.
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I once heard a scientist use an example of putting the pieces of a model airplane into a dryer, turning it on and at the end of the cycle the airplane comes out put together perfectly. He said the odds of that happening are better then the odds of this planet coming together so perfectly by accident.
I'd be curious the name of that particular scientist.
And since we're talking about odds, there are millions-of-billions of planets in the universe (estimated at 3 planets per star, on average). Scientists say that there is practically no chance that there is not intelligent life on other planets. So, when the intelligent life on other planets die, do they go to heaven? Or hell? Are they believers in Christianity? If not, are they punished?
None of this is proven fact! Only theories. Also, I said nothing about Christianity or heaven & hell. Only that there must be a God.
These are the same people who believe in the theory of relativity. Do you believe in that? (looking for a yes or no).
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The scientists and physicist that do delve deeper into it without the closed mind that atheist and agnostics possess eventually can't deny what they call supernatural forces at work. Supernatural is magic or God. Which one is easier to put faith in?
CJMST3K
I'm arguing the fact of a God's existence not Einsteins existence! Also CJMST3K you completely ignored my second paragraph which has the most important points.
Also, CJMST3K never use "practically" and "estimated" when trying to prove a point. Will never get you very far.
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The scientists and physicist that do delve deeper into it without the closed mind that atheist and agnostics possess eventually can't deny what they call supernatural forces at work. Supernatural is magic or God. Which one is easier to put faith in?
This is why they refer to it as "supernatural forces". They won't allow themselves to say"God".
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These are the same people who believe in the theory of relativity. Do you believe in that? (looking for a yes or no).
I'm arguing the fact of a God's existence not Einsteins existence! Also you completely ignored my second paragraph which has the most important points.
Also, CJMST3K never use "practically" and "estimated" when trying to prove a point. Will never get you very far.[/quote]
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.". -Einstein
These are the same people who believe in the theory of relativity. Do you believe in that? (looking for a yes or no).
I'm arguing the fact of a God's existence not Einsteins existence! Also you completely ignored my second paragraph which has the most important points.
Also, CJMST3K never use "practically" and "estimated" when trying to prove a point. Will never get you very far.
Sorry EddieLedBetter that wasn't my quote that was CJMST3K. I messed things up I was responding to him not you. I did some editing to try and clear things up. I'm on your side of this argument. Read all my posts on this page.
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The scientists and physicist that do delve deeper into it without the closed mind that atheist and agnostics possess eventually can't deny what they call supernatural forces at work. Supernatural is magic or God. Which one is easier to put faith in?
well, it would seem you are ignorant. do you even know what agnostic means? it's the definition of open-mindedness. it's the acknowledgement of knowing that we posess neither the ability to say that god exists or does not exist.
YOU are the one with the closed mind.
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If you really want logical evidence for gods existence its out there you just have to seach for it with an open mind. Evidence so overwhelming you'll find that it takes more faith not to believe in god.
youre kidding right??? what evidence exactly are you speaking of???
ive been an atheist since i was 11 years old. and ive never wavered or even questioned the absence of God, nor my atheism, so clearly its been no burden for me. in fact tis not even something i think about really. it just is what it is... an absolute LACK OF FAITH.
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.... On the other hand Hell is clearly described. Eternal torment, nashing of teeth, the evilest of evils. Not a place I'm willing to gamble my soul with.
Don't gamble then.. stick to the Old Testament. No hell there!
If you really want logical evidence for gods existence its out there you just have to seach for it with an open mind. Evidence so overwhelming you'll find that it takes more faith not to believe in god.
Probably your most ridiculous statement yet.
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I once heard a scientist use an example of putting the pieces of a model airplane into a dryer, turning it on and at the end of the cycle the airplane comes out put together perfectly. He said the odds of that happening are better then the odds of this planet coming together so perfectly by accident.
People need to look at our planet and realise how perfect and beautiful and complicated it is. Once you do that then how can you not see that our planet was put together by design. Our planet is the ultimate evidence of God's existence!!! To not see and comprehend that is naive and ignorant. Way too many people take everything for granted!
yeah that earthquake in Haiti was PERFECT!!!
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The scientists and physicist that do delve deeper into it without the closed mind that atheist and agnostics possess eventually can't deny what they call supernatural forces at work. Supernatural is magic or God. Which one is easier to put faith in?
Give us one example of a supernatural force please.
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I once heard a scientist use an example of putting the pieces of a model airplane into a dryer, turning it on and at the end of the cycle the airplane comes out put together perfectly. He said the odds of that happening are better then the odds of this planet coming together so perfectly by accident.
People need to look at our planet and realise how perfect and beautiful and complicated it is. Once you do that then how can you not see that our planet was put together by design. Our planet is the ultimate evidence of God's existence!!! To not see and comprehend that is naive and ignorant. Way too many people take everything for granted!
To not see the flaw in the above type of reasoning is ignorrant.
WHO MADE/DESIGNED/CREATED THE PERFECT GOD???????????????????
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The scientists and physicist that do delve deeper into it without the closed mind that atheist and agnostics possess eventually can't deny what they call supernatural forces at work. Supernatural is magic or God. Which one is easier to put faith in?
Give us one example of a supernatural force please.
ask any cosmologist what keeps the universe together
The scientists and physicist that do delve deeper into it without the closed mind that atheist and agnostics possess eventually can't deny what they call supernatural forces at work. Supernatural is magic or God. Which one is easier to put faith in?
Give us one example of a supernatural force please.
ask any cosmologist what keeps the universe together
ask any religious person where god is physically located.
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The scientists and physicist that do delve deeper into it without the closed mind that atheist and agnostics possess eventually can't deny what they call supernatural forces at work. Supernatural is magic or God. Which one is easier to put faith in?
Give us one example of a supernatural force please.
ask any cosmologist what keeps the universe together
ridiculous....that's like us having this conversation 500 years ago and you claiming that god holds up the moon
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The scientists and physicist that do delve deeper into it without the closed mind that atheist and agnostics possess eventually can't deny what they call supernatural forces at work. Supernatural is magic or God. Which one is easier to put faith in?
Give us one example of a supernatural force please.
ask any cosmologist what keeps the universe together
Cosmologists say supernatural forces keep the universe together? Or do they say they are not quite sure what they call "dark matter" is. And because you don't know what dark matter is you just throw your arms up and go "must be god/magic/supernatural forces. What other explanation could there be since I, in my infintie wisdom and knowledge, am not aware of it?"
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."
Give us one example of a supernatural force please.
ask any cosmologist what keeps the universe together
ridiculous....that's like us having this conversation 500 years ago and you claiming that god holds up the moon
GB - I think they may be "turtles all the way down" believers.
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The scientists and physicist that do delve deeper into it without the closed mind that atheist and agnostics possess eventually can't deny what they call supernatural forces at work. Supernatural is magic or God. Which one is easier to put faith in?
Give us one example of a supernatural force please.
ask any cosmologist what keeps the universe together
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Cosmologist or cosmetologists? I think you are confusing Astronomy with Astrology. Astronomy works within the confines of the physical sciences... Astrology includes the supernatural and really has no science about it at all.
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Another question...
I hear people say, 'God is this incredible, perfect entity that is completely beyond the comphrehension of all of Mankind'... How can those people claim to 'Know God'? If He is beyond all that we know or even our ability to comprehend... how come they know? Are they not a part of Mankind? Are they claiming to be on God's level?
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I once heard a scientist use an example of putting the pieces of a model airplane into a dryer, turning it on and at the end of the cycle the airplane comes out put together perfectly. He said the odds of that happening are better then the odds of this planet coming together so perfectly by accident.
People need to look at our planet and realise how perfect and beautiful and complicated it is. Once you do that then how can you not see that our planet was put together by design. Our planet is the ultimate evidence of God's existence!!! To not see and comprehend that is naive and ignorant. Way too many people take everything for granted!
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The first paragraph is a nonsensical statement made by supporters of Creationism (i.e. 'Intelligent Design'). A plastic model airplane does not exist in the natural world... just as a pocket watch, as stated in 'Of People and Pandas'. Tell me where there is a plant that grows pocket watches or the mating and birthing practices of the Boeing 767 and get back to me.
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As for the Earth. It is a hostile environment... the natural world. Get dropped off in the middle of the ocean or desert or mountains without any of your products of modern technology (including your shoes and clothing) and tell me how long you will last. And ever see the natural world in action... lions do not order their meals from a menu. Think of being out in the wilderness, being tracked by wolves. When they catch you... because they will catch you... they will not be humane to their meal... you. You will more than likely still be conscience of them pulling your intestines out of your body before devouring them.
Yes... the planet is beautiful... from our technological windows. But, out there... if the predators don't kill you... the weather and/or elements will.
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People need to look at our planet and realise how perfect and beautiful and complicated it is. Once you do that then how can you not see that our planet was put together by design. Our planet is the ultimate evidence of God's existence!!! To not see and comprehend that is naive and ignorant. Way too many people take everything for granted!
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I'd be curious the name of that particular scientist.
And since we're talking about odds, there are millions-of-billions of planets in the universe (estimated at 3 planets per star, on average). Scientists say that there is practically no chance that there is not intelligent life on other planets. So, when the intelligent life on other planets die, do they go to heaven? Or hell? Are they believers in Christianity? If not, are they punished?
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These are the same people who believe in the theory of relativity. Do you believe in that? (looking for a yes or no).
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I'm arguing the fact of a God's existence not Einsteins existence! Also CJMST3K you completely ignored my second paragraph which has the most important points.
Also, CJMST3K never use "practically" and "estimated" when trying to prove a point. Will never get you very far.
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Also, CJMST3K never use "practically" and "estimated" when trying to prove a point. Will never get you very far.[/quote]
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.". -Einstein
Sorry EddieLedBetter that wasn't my quote that was CJMST3K. I messed things up I was responding to him not you. I did some editing to try and clear things up. I'm on your side of this argument. Read all my posts on this page.
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well, it would seem you are ignorant. do you even know what agnostic means? it's the definition of open-mindedness. it's the acknowledgement of knowing that we posess neither the ability to say that god exists or does not exist.
YOU are the one with the closed mind.
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youre kidding right??? what evidence exactly are you speaking of???
ive been an atheist since i was 11 years old. and ive never wavered or even questioned the absence of God, nor my atheism, so clearly its been no burden for me. in fact tis not even something i think about really. it just is what it is... an absolute LACK OF FAITH.
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Probably your most ridiculous statement yet.
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1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
yeah that earthquake in Haiti was PERFECT!!!
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
Give us one example of a supernatural force please.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.
- Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945, responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism; quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
By who?
Smurf village is clearly described.
...and both were described by man. Why is heaven more real than smurf village?
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Steven Weinberg,
To not see the flaw in the above type of reasoning is ignorrant.
WHO MADE/DESIGNED/CREATED THE PERFECT GOD???????????????????
"With our thoughts we make the world"
ask any cosmologist what keeps the universe together
ask any religious person where god is physically located.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
ridiculous....that's like us having this conversation 500 years ago and you claiming that god holds up the moon
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
Cosmologists say supernatural forces keep the universe together? Or do they say they are not quite sure what they call "dark matter" is. And because you don't know what dark matter is you just throw your arms up and go "must be god/magic/supernatural forces. What other explanation could there be since I, in my infintie wisdom and knowledge, am not aware of it?"
"With our thoughts we make the world"
GB - I think they may be "turtles all the way down" believers.
"A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the center of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy. At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise." The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?" "You're very clever, young man, very clever", said the old lady. "But it's turtles all the way down!"
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
San Diego 2003
Grand Rapids 2004
Grand Rapids 2006
Detroit 2006
Columbus 2010
"With my own two hands I can change the world."
I - Instructions
B - Before
L - Leaving
E - Earth
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2008 Bonnaroo - 2009 Philly 2&3 - 2010 MSG 1&2
You're right. There's no way, with an acronym like that, that there's no god. This is the proof... end of discussion.
Thank you for playing.
...sigh...
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Cosmologist or cosmetologists? I think you are confusing Astronomy with Astrology. Astronomy works within the confines of the physical sciences... Astrology includes the supernatural and really has no science about it at all.
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Another question...
I hear people say, 'God is this incredible, perfect entity that is completely beyond the comphrehension of all of Mankind'... How can those people claim to 'Know God'? If He is beyond all that we know or even our ability to comprehend... how come they know? Are they not a part of Mankind? Are they claiming to be on God's level?
Hail, Hail!!!
The first paragraph is a nonsensical statement made by supporters of Creationism (i.e. 'Intelligent Design'). A plastic model airplane does not exist in the natural world... just as a pocket watch, as stated in 'Of People and Pandas'. Tell me where there is a plant that grows pocket watches or the mating and birthing practices of the Boeing 767 and get back to me.
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As for the Earth. It is a hostile environment... the natural world. Get dropped off in the middle of the ocean or desert or mountains without any of your products of modern technology (including your shoes and clothing) and tell me how long you will last. And ever see the natural world in action... lions do not order their meals from a menu. Think of being out in the wilderness, being tracked by wolves. When they catch you... because they will catch you... they will not be humane to their meal... you. You will more than likely still be conscience of them pulling your intestines out of your body before devouring them.
Yes... the planet is beautiful... from our technological windows. But, out there... if the predators don't kill you... the weather and/or elements will.
Hail, Hail!!!