Show Announcement Method: It is what it is

fall by the wayside

It is what it is.... and what it is is crap. The only reasons I can see for this are 1. poor planning or 2. $$$

Personally I'd rather it was incompetence rather than wanting to milk us for more $$$. Either way this tour has been comepletely over the top in this regard.

decides2dream

AndySlash wrote:

I know, right!


Shame so many of us feel this way, though. It's an easily remediable problem.

it's definitely not the best way to run a business, reward your most loyal customers....but then, they do reward us in so many other ways, and enough so that i am satisfied and happy, thus a returning customer. the day that changes, is the day i re-evaluate my choices. that said, in the scheme of things.....this really isn't 'important' to my life, so i can deal just fine. it IS annoying, but yea...oi have bigger issues in my life than how or when or why pj announces their shows. so i'll go to shows if/when i can, when i want to, when i can make it fit my schedule, when i can manage to score tix for face, etc.

remediable?
is that a word? honest query there. :P i would think 'remedied'....but what do i know, i taught art, not english/grammar.


anyhooooooo....bring on the hawaii announcement!

pjalive21

SolarWorld wrote:

pjalive21 wrote:

i hate to admit this guys but the way they are doing the announcing of the tour is not good and thats putting it nicely at best and that not including many parts of the US, so there arent many excuses for this

Good for who? You? Other whiny bitches on here? The way Pearl Jam does things is good for THEM! They dont owe us anything. With a fanbase as large as theirs, they have to do things that benefit them first. And if that means closing dates whenever and however then so be it. They are in control, not some twits on a message board that makes up maybe 1% of their fanbase.

ummm who is whining exactly? you are whining about me and me putting my two cents in on the way the tour is being done, im just giving first hand experience from talking and being around people who organize tours that this is in no way the common way to announce tours...

and just to set you straight that yeah the band can do whats best for them but without US fans to follow and support them there is no band...if they want to announce shows at the last minute and no one shows up, THEY have that right to..if they want to announce shows and someone pays to fly across the country to see them and then announce a show close to those fans a few weeks later THEY have that right to screw over their fans...i mean who really are WE to them anyway, right? i mean thats your point

kiljoythemerciful

Be smart. Know your own limitations and what you can and cannot afford, and no one will ever screw you completely. Am I the only one who has no problem? Just doesn't seem like much of an issue and I'm a poor teacher. If you can't afford to go to a show, don't go. If they are announcing shows in batches, weigh your options and make a decision you can live with.

Would a more clear cut full tour announcement be nice? Sure, but they ain't doin it! Put some responsibility on your own shoulders and figure it out.

hopethatuchoke

I understand the frustrations of everyone regarding the current concert announcement method. I am fortunate to live about 15 minutes from the Spectrum so I don't have to worry about traveling, airfare,hotels,etc. To those that do have to worry about that and are really bent out of shape about the additional Spectrum show on Halloween...do you really have to go to the show? It's not the end of the world if you miss one show. What exactly do you fear missing? I see people talking about flying in from the west coast, houston, etc. They have played hundreds of shows and will play many more before calling it quits. Is it going to kill you to miss a show?

AndySlash

decides2dream wrote:

remediable?
is that a word? honest query there. :P i would think 'remedied'....but what do i know, i taught art, not english/grammar.

I just looked it up on the interwebs and it IS a word. :ugeek:

Vedd Hedd

It just sucks that the ONLY time I can't log onto the site is EXACTLY when my concert is onsale.

A week or two advanced notice, I could have moved things around.

mfc2006

kiljoythemerciful wrote:

Be smart. Know your own limitations and what you can and cannot afford, and no one will ever screw you completely. Am I the only one who has no problem? Just doesn't seem like much of an issue and I'm a poor teacher. If you can't afford to go to a show, don't go. If they are announcing shows in batches, weigh your options and make a decision you can live with.

Would a more clear cut full tour announcement be nice? Sure, but they ain't doin it! Put some responsibility on your own shoulders and figure it out.

and bingo was his name-o.

slightofjeff

Typically, the way it works for most any other band is this. You see that said band is coming to your city and/or area ... you buy tickets to said show.

It doesn't matter if they are also playing a gig five hours away. You didn't care about that one. You weren't going. You might not have even known about it.

So it doesn't matter when they announced the show in your town. That's the only one you care about.

The problem, as it is, with Pearl Jam is that some of you dorks want to go to a half dozen different shows. That's the only way this tour-announcing policy makes a damn to anyone.

So, the solution is simple: Next time, only go to shows in your area, or don't go at all. Treat them like every other band. I don't care how Green Day announces their tour. If they play in my town or area, I will go. If not, I don't.

It makes life simpler.

Or, go to your half dozen out-of-state shows (I would recommend traveling to a city you'd like to visit regardless of if PJ were playing there) ... but don't bitch when they add a date in your backyard later. Nobody says you have to be in the building every time Pearl Jam plays a show.

Veddernarian

slightofjeff wrote:

Typically, the way it works for most any other band is this. You see that said band is coming to your city and/or area ... you buy tickets to said show.

It doesn't matter if they are also playing a gig five hours away. You didn't care about that one. You weren't going. You might not have even known about it.

So it doesn't matter when they announced the show in your town. That's the only one you care about.

The problem, as it is, with Pearl Jam is that some of you dorks want to go to a half dozen different shows. That's the only way this tour-announcing policy makes a damn to anyone.

So, the solution is simple: Next time, only go to shows in your area, or don't go at all. Treat them like every other band. I don't care how Green Day announces their tour. If they play in my town or area, I will go. If not, I don't.

It makes life simpler.

Or, go to your half dozen out-of-state shows (I would recommend traveling to a city you'd like to visit regardless of if PJ were playing there) ... but don't bitch when they add a date in your backyard later. Nobody says you have to be in the building every time Pearl Jam plays a show.

And to add to your excellent points, you can get a bootleg of almost any show and play it any time. In the old days, one's favorite band would release one, maybe two live albums. Period. This is so transparent these days. I had a mp3 of Got Some from Conan 2 hours before it came to TV in my time zone. The more we can get, we want more than that on top of it. I really think it is amazing all that they do for the fans. Do other bands do what PJ does?

Hbudjr

pjtaper wrote:

SO ANNOYING!!!!
Announce a tour like a normal band, wtf? This is AWFUL! I need to sell my Austin City Limit ticket now...
Anyone book a flight to Philly before they announced these shows?
After this year, I may not renew my membership, and I highly doubt I'll bother seeing my favorite band anymore, it's just too frustrating!

I'm just glad they still aren't hitting the south!

Man who gives a shit how they announce shows! You have a ticket already so just go and enjoy the band. You say its you fav band must not be as much as you think if you have a ticket and complain like you are wow!!

/potato wave!!!!

benjs

hopethatuchoke wrote:

I understand the frustrations of everyone regarding the current concert announcement method. I am fortunate to live about 15 minutes from the Spectrum so I don't have to worry about traveling, airfare,hotels,etc. To those that do have to worry about that and are really bent out of shape about the additional Spectrum show on Halloween...do you really have to go to the show? It's not the end of the world if you miss one show. What exactly do you fear missing? I see people talking about flying in from the west coast, houston, etc. They have played hundreds of shows and will play many more before calling it quits. Is it going to kill you to miss a show?

Remember your audience here, hopethatuchoke! We're all here because we're nuts about this band.

Gary Carter

Veddernarian wrote:

Do other bands do what PJ does?

as far as bootlegs go i know phish and dmb and metallica all offer boots of past and present shows.

helplessdancer

i love the internet

yeah, an ummm i think it has always been what it is

reality's a real bitch sumtimes

damn

supersonicyears

pjtaper wrote:

SO ANNOYING!!!!
Announce a tour like a normal band, wtf? This is AWFUL! I need to sell my Austin City Limit ticket now...
Anyone book a flight to Philly before they announced these shows?
After this year, I may not renew my membership, and I highly doubt I'll bother seeing my favorite band anymore, it's just too frustrating!

I'm just glad they still aren't hitting the south!

I'm glad their doing it like this. Not all of us are independently wealthy and can purchase the tickets all at once. If they announce the shows a little at at time it gives you a chance to come up with the money.
I'm glad one more whiner will be giving up his membership. I hope your number is low.

bootlegger10

SolarWorld wrote:

Vedd Hedd wrote:

How about this: 5 months before the tour announce at least 85% of the cities and dates, like any other band.

Pearl Jam is not every other band, you would think diehards would know this by now. They do things they way they want to do them, they always have. Dont like it? The door is over there...

You are the biggest PJ fanboy here. People have legitimate complaints, like someone earlier from SLC who hasn't seen a show in 10 years and finds out in a random show announcement that a show has been added in SLC after he's already paid for a San Diego trip. Yes, it is great that he can afford that trip, but not everyone wants to travel to see the band if they can help it.

Stop being an a**clown and listen to people instead of drinking PJ's kool-aid.

bootlegger10

kiljoythemerciful wrote:

Be smart. Know your own limitations and what you can and cannot afford, and no one will ever screw you completely. Am I the only one who has no problem? Just doesn't seem like much of an issue and I'm a poor teacher. If you can't afford to go to a show, don't go. If they are announcing shows in batches, weigh your options and make a decision you can live with.

Would a more clear cut full tour announcement be nice? Sure, but they ain't doin it! Put some responsibility on your own shoulders and figure it out.

While that may be right in some respects, the way Pearl Jam has announced their tour puts these folks in a situation where they have to make a decision without all of the facts. Someone can afford to fly to Philly, but would rather not pay $800 to do it if they had a show nearby.

I guess with this new system PJ has, Ticketmaster is the way to go if you are bordeline about going to a show.

ComeToTX

slightofjeff wrote:

Typically, the way it works for most any other band is this. You see that said band is coming to your city and/or area ... you buy tickets to said show.

It doesn't matter if they are also playing a gig five hours away. You didn't care about that one. You weren't going. You might not have even known about it.

So it doesn't matter when they announced the show in your town. That's the only one you care about.

The problem, as it is, with Pearl Jam is that some of you dorks want to go to a half dozen different shows. That's the only way this tour-announcing policy makes a damn to anyone.

So, the solution is simple: Next time, only go to shows in your area, or don't go at all. Treat them like every other band. I don't care how Green Day announces their tour. If they play in my town or area, I will go. If not, I don't.

It makes life simpler.

Or, go to your half dozen out-of-state shows (I would recommend traveling to a city you'd like to visit regardless of if PJ were playing there) ... but don't bitch when they add a date in your backyard later. Nobody says you have to be in the building every time Pearl Jam plays a show.

I would agree if they had been to my state in the last 6 years. Some of us have to travel long distances if we want to see them. I'm going to LA4 but probably would have chosen one of the 3 cities announced today if I had known.

Flagg

hopethatuchoke wrote:

I understand the frustrations of everyone regarding the current concert announcement method. I am fortunate to live about 15 minutes from the Spectrum so I don't have to worry about traveling, airfare,hotels,etc. To those that do have to worry about that and are really bent out of shape about the additional Spectrum show on Halloween...do you really have to go to the show? It's not the end of the world if you miss one show. What exactly do you fear missing? I see people talking about flying in from the west coast, houston, etc. They have played hundreds of shows and will play many more before calling it quits. Is it going to kill you to miss a show?

I can't speak for everybody but if I don't travel to see them, I fear never seeing them again. They haven't played my city in more than 6 years.

That's the short answer.

starmap3333

I bought Bonnaroo tickets when that was the only date they had announced that summer... I'm from NY. When they announced the two MSG shows.... I was....

OVERJOYED!!

Then, I even decided on a Monday morning that I would call into work and drive from here to Mansfield for the final night of the tour!!

Good luck planning your life step by step and play by play instead of just rolling with what's presented to you.


If they didn;t string us along a little, I'd of never gone to Bonnaroo and it was amazing. Then it was like a puddle jump to MSG and Mansfield! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee