You cant announce shows that have not been confirmed. Concert dates and announcements themselves are like little transactions. Money and rights etc are exchanged sometimes. People that then have those rights can choose to annoucement them how they want, AL la radio shows who then give away tickets.
Things change ALL THE TIME. If you really think "not that much" has changed since '00 than you need more help than I can give you.
First off, it was 2003 not 2000.
And again, why can almost every other band do it?
Again, if you think not much has changed since 2003 you need more help than I can give you.\
And again, Pearl Jam makes their own deals now. In '03 and before I'm sure they were paying someone to line up a tour. Pearl Jam has always liked to have control over everything they can if possible. If it makes more sense for them to make and close deals on their own why are you going to hold that against them? Do you think they all sit down with Kelly and say, "Man our fans hate it when we announce touring this way" "Lets keep doing it though, just to piss them off." "Yeah! Good idea!"
we didn't want you here anyway! why would you come to an amazing festival for one band?
So they can see the one band they care to see who hasn't come to their state in 6 years and counting on their own. That's why.
pjtaper is 100% okay in his post. You all should be pissed at the way this tour has been announced. THere is a thread where the SLC show was rumored back in April. They couldn't have confirmed it 3 weeks ago with the Philly, Seattle and LA shows? They could have. But they didn't. A total joke. This is coming from a person who is seeing the bad 8 times this year, and who the delayed show announcements did not affect (except for costing me a one-way flight that was $50 less than what I have to pay now for one-stop flight).
I dont understand why people just dont get it. They think they choose this way because they want to fuck the fans... its crazy.
Ummm...it doesn't matter if they didn't CHOOSE to do it this way to f the fans over...but that is the result in a lot of cases.
The other funny thing is, they end up making it harder for locals to get ticketsin a bunch of cases since they create a situation where some people travel when they wouldn't have done so.
I get that this is the way they are going to do things. I just think it sucks for the fans.
I'm kinda surpised to see so many people that are OK with the way tours are being announced lately.
i'm not ok with it. i think it makes sense to announce all of the shows at once. but we don't know why they're doing it this way. maybe they booked a few shows & then decided to look into booking more b/c they wanted to play more. who knows?
my point was that it isn't 1991 anymore & they probably won't ever tour they way they used to b/c of how their lives have changed. yes, it sucks for us fans b/c the announcements are so spotty. but what can we do about it? it's their tour.
The way the shows are announced is utter chaos. They could let the people attend the proper shows if they only did things more organized. Its like a circus now, Shows, rumors shows, more rumors, do I buy Wed Tix, when thats a bad day for me, but no Tuesday shows which would be awesome, oh wait, now theres a Tuesday show, to late, cant go, already took extra days off for Wed. Its kids stuff. This needs to stop. THIS IS NOT THE WAY ITS ALWAYS BEEN. They used to announce the whole tour at once and there was no choas. Im sorry, but this is a major flaw in the 10C way of doing thing. Bear 135xxx
If people stopped and thought about how concert tours are planned, maybe even do a little research on the subject they would not post uninformed rants such as yours.
THANK YOU! No one thinks about the business side... sorry, Pearl Jam are a business, like it or not.
I like that they are a business - they are solid musicians whose collective creativity helps brighten up my day, and adds a lot to my life.. to me, that means they are deserving of a large paycheque. However, there are ways to run businesses that optimize both customer satisfaction and profits, and I would go as far as to say that these are directly proportional. That said, I feel they're missing the boat in many ways.. take Philly (obviously what this thread is about) for example.. all they had to do was announce the shows when the first two sold out, rather than taking their sweet time!
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
First of all, nowhere had I insinuated that I know anything about scheduling a band's tour - all I suggested was that the bands whose touring schedules I follow simply do not release their schedules the way Pearl Jam chooses to. It's like handing us one piece of a puzzle at a time, and telling us each time that it's done.
Second, I'm pretty sure that I wrote that I feel they could dig themselves out of a hole by simply giving us a good reason on why the delay for these show announcements.
Finally - I didn't think I was BITCHING AND MOANING, as you stated so eloquently.. this is a discussion board, and if we all believed one thing, this place wouldn't exist. It's our abilities to discuss topical matters civilly that differentiates between discussing, debating, arguing, and bitching.
I wasn't saying you were bitching and moaning, I said that if Pearl Jam announced their 10/31 show and canceled it, there would be bitching and moaning. Thats obvious.
IT MAKES SENSE NOT TO RELEASE ALL FOUR DATES AT ONCE. Why does no one realize this?
I posted this in another thread:
I think they release some shows at the same venue before others is to see the interest. If the first 1 or 2 sell out, they can add more. If they release all 4 at once and they don't sell well, they'd have to cancel some. Announcing dates later > canceling shows.
Remember people, they are catering to people who want to go to one show, not ALL FOUR! Sheesh! I know they're not sitting there going "Ok so how do we plan this so people who want to come from out of town to all of the shows are able to get as many tickets as they want with the best seats possible?" PLEASE.
My bad with my misinterpreting the bitching and moaning - I apologize for that.
Regarding staggering the release of the dates - I realize (and I think most people realize) that it makes sense not to release all four dates at once from a financial stand-point. For a band that clearly recognizes they have a fan-base that is willing to travel for them, however, and considering the shows have been sold out for weeks now, why have they been taking their sweet time for these?
It is best not to ask questions that are critical of the band on here. PJ was able to announce 30 shows at once, and now they struggle to announce shows in 5 cities over a 6 week period. We just have to accept it. If I was from SLC and I decided to go to Seattle, and then find out they were coming to my city a month later, I would be pissed as hell. Especially when they had a hold at the SLC venue since April.
The irony is if they waited until they had all the details finalized for all tour shows, the same people complaining about the one-at-a-time announcements would be saying, "Why does 10-C never tell us anything" when rumors and ticket links started surfacing.
They're damned either way. Personally I have faith that they're doing it this way for a valid reason.
"They said ... timing was everything
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
I'm kinda surpised to see so many people that are OK with the way tours are being announced lately.
i'm not ok with it. i think it makes sense to announce all of the shows at once. but we don't know why they're doing it this way. maybe they booked a few shows & then decided to look into booking more b/c they wanted to play more. who knows?
my point was that it isn't 1991 anymore & they probably won't ever tour they way they used to b/c of how their lives have changed. yes, it sucks for us fans b/c the announcements are so spotty. but what can we do about it? it's their tour.
Seems liek they've gone the way of Maddona...short tours...multiple dates in 1 city...of course, her tours are announced all together and in advance, so maybe she's better at it then them, but there just getting started with this new touring plan...;)
I consider myself a huge Pearl Jam fan, but I'd fall into the casual fan compared to most of the people on these boards.
I stressed for multiple days trying to get tickets to the 10/30 Pearl Jam show. I got shut out of the presale and then shut out of Comcast until they opened up seats behind the stage. I got those tickets and was excited to be in the building during the last show in Philly and (likely) in The Spectrum.
Now they announce another show on 10/31. Shit.
It's great that they are giving a chance for more people to see them play, but it sucks that I worried about buying tickets to "the last night" when it's not the last night of the Philly swing. Most people probably don't care about stuff like this, but it bothers me.
I grew up in South Jersey but curently live in Houston. I plan to fly out Thursday night, see them on Friday, and then I was going to do the Halloween thing with my young nephews. Now I have to figure out if I want to try and score tickets again for Saturday night as well.
I'm sure their announcement method makes sense business wise, but we all have our individual story of how this affects us . . . for better or worse. I, for one, would have liked to know. I would have held out for the Saturday show and passed on the behind-the-stage tickets for Friday.
get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.
get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.
It's funny that people say "PJ is a business" but don't think we as consumers have the right to complain.
get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.
Crazy Breed, I've gotta say - I love the way you send out good vibes in angry ways - makes me laugh
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
I'm kinda surpised to see so many people that are OK with the way tours are being announced lately.
i'm not ok with it. i think it makes sense to announce all of the shows at once. but we don't know why they're doing it this way. maybe they booked a few shows & then decided to look into booking more b/c they wanted to play more. who knows?
my point was that it isn't 1991 anymore & they probably won't ever tour they way they used to b/c of how their lives have changed. yes, it sucks for us fans b/c the announcements are so spotty. but what can we do about it? it's their tour.
Seems liek they've gone the way of Maddona...short tours...multiple dates in 1 city...of course, her tours are announced all together and in advance, so maybe she's better at it then them, but there just getting started with this new touring plan...;)
*sigh
Maddona signed a deal with Live Nation. Madonna will now only play shows at Live Nation venues and Live Nation can use their machine to make and close concert deals at once. Live Nation > Curtis Management.
We don't know what the process is... all we can do is guess. Maybe there's a reason... maybe not. We don't know.
I've only been a fan since '05, so sometimes it really does surprise me to hear about things like the Rumor Pit.. I'm finding it harder and harder to believe that communicating with this band was ever dissimilar to communicating with a wall.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.
Crazy Breed, I've gotta say - I love the way you send out good vibes in angry ways - makes me laugh
We don't know what the process is... all we can do is guess. Maybe there's a reason... maybe not. We don't know.
I've only been a fan since '05, so sometimes it really does surprise me to hear about things like the Rumor Pit.. I'm finding it harder and harder to believe that communicating with this band was ever dissimilar to communicating with a wall.
When is it ever enough? What do you want from them? Their own personal phone numbers?
get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.
i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.
"I've got things to do and things to say in my own way..."
get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.
It's funny that people say "PJ is a business" but don't think we as consumers have the right to complain.
People have the right to vote, doesn't mean they make an education decision.
It is best not to ask questions that are critical of the band on here. PJ was able to announce 30 shows at once, and now they struggle to announce shows in 5 cities over a 6 week period. We just have to accept it. If I was from SLC and I decided to go to Seattle, and then find out they were coming to my city a month later, I would be pissed as hell. Especially when they had a hold at the SLC venue since April.
You can put me in that bucket. Unless they come to SLC again after this tour, this will be my last tour. Since there was no guarantee that they would come any closer to SLC than the West Coast, I shelled out the cash for San Diego tickets. I will end up spending around $250 just for the San Diego show after paying for gas, cheap motel, tickets...not to mention time off from work and time away from my wife and kids.
And now they announce a tour stop 20 minutes from my house?? I'll say it....the Ten Club sucks. Whoever plans the tour really sucks. Either they are trying to swindle people into attending multiple shows, or they haven't got a clue about how to plan a tour and market it to the loyal fan base.
I guess PJ just isn't a priority any more. It is clear that the fans are no longer a priority to the people who run the fan club. It would be one thing if they announced the East Coast leg in its entirety, then West Coast in its entirety. I wouldn't see anything to complain about there. But when I only have the time/budget to show, it would be nice to know that they are coming to my own freaking town before I spend money to go somewhere else.
Congrats, PJ/Ten Club. Well played. You'll get my money for two shows, and I'm sure I'll enjoy them, but I don't see how the bitter taste will go away any time soon.
get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.
i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.
I agree. I wish pjtaper would stop generalizing like this, so we can focus on those statements of value that he makes!
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.
i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.
I'll say it....the Ten Club sucks. Whoever plans the tour really sucks. Either they are trying to swindle people into attending multiple shows, or they haven't got a clue about how to plan a tour and market it to the loyal fan base.
get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.
i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.
get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.
i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.
I agree. I wish pjtaper would stop generalizing like this, so we can focus on those statements of value that he makes!
yeah exactly. by making those comments, he is diverting a good bit of attention away from what i think is his main point. I'm not a fan of how they are releasing the concert dates either. It does make for some difficult planning etc. But the more tour dates the better, that's for sure.
"I've got things to do and things to say in my own way..."
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You can put me in that bucket. Unless they come to SLC again after this tour, this will be my last tour.
You'll be back next tour. Pjtaper won't cancel his membership. We all know its true. You'll be cheery after the show is over. You'll buy tickets to the next one. Threat as much as you will, you know, I know, 10c knows everyone always comes back!
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get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.
i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.
yup. that's why i got upset/annoyed. not because of what he said about 10c, but b/c of his generalizations of the South.
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Again, if you think not much has changed since 2003 you need more help than I can give you.\
And again, Pearl Jam makes their own deals now. In '03 and before I'm sure they were paying someone to line up a tour. Pearl Jam has always liked to have control over everything they can if possible. If it makes more sense for them to make and close deals on their own why are you going to hold that against them? Do you think they all sit down with Kelly and say, "Man our fans hate it when we announce touring this way" "Lets keep doing it though, just to piss them off." "Yeah! Good idea!"
:roll:
So they can see the one band they care to see who hasn't come to their state in 6 years and counting on their own. That's why.
pjtaper is 100% okay in his post. You all should be pissed at the way this tour has been announced. THere is a thread where the SLC show was rumored back in April. They couldn't have confirmed it 3 weeks ago with the Philly, Seattle and LA shows? They could have. But they didn't. A total joke. This is coming from a person who is seeing the bad 8 times this year, and who the delayed show announcements did not affect (except for costing me a one-way flight that was $50 less than what I have to pay now for one-stop flight).
Ummm...it doesn't matter if they didn't CHOOSE to do it this way to f the fans over...but that is the result in a lot of cases.
The other funny thing is, they end up making it harder for locals to get ticketsin a bunch of cases since they create a situation where some people travel when they wouldn't have done so.
I get that this is the way they are going to do things. I just think it sucks for the fans.
i'm not ok with it. i think it makes sense to announce all of the shows at once. but we don't know why they're doing it this way. maybe they booked a few shows & then decided to look into booking more b/c they wanted to play more. who knows?
my point was that it isn't 1991 anymore & they probably won't ever tour they way they used to b/c of how their lives have changed. yes, it sucks for us fans b/c the announcements are so spotty. but what can we do about it? it's their tour.
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
It is best not to ask questions that are critical of the band on here. PJ was able to announce 30 shows at once, and now they struggle to announce shows in 5 cities over a 6 week period. We just have to accept it. If I was from SLC and I decided to go to Seattle, and then find out they were coming to my city a month later, I would be pissed as hell. Especially when they had a hold at the SLC venue since April.
They're damned either way. Personally I have faith that they're doing it this way for a valid reason.
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
Seems liek they've gone the way of Maddona...short tours...multiple dates in 1 city...of course, her tours are announced all together and in advance, so maybe she's better at it then them, but there just getting started with this new touring plan...;)
I stressed for multiple days trying to get tickets to the 10/30 Pearl Jam show. I got shut out of the presale and then shut out of Comcast until they opened up seats behind the stage. I got those tickets and was excited to be in the building during the last show in Philly and (likely) in The Spectrum.
Now they announce another show on 10/31. Shit.
It's great that they are giving a chance for more people to see them play, but it sucks that I worried about buying tickets to "the last night" when it's not the last night of the Philly swing. Most people probably don't care about stuff like this, but it bothers me.
I grew up in South Jersey but curently live in Houston. I plan to fly out Thursday night, see them on Friday, and then I was going to do the Halloween thing with my young nephews. Now I have to figure out if I want to try and score tickets again for Saturday night as well.
I'm sure their announcement method makes sense business wise, but we all have our individual story of how this affects us . . . for better or worse. I, for one, would have liked to know. I would have held out for the Saturday show and passed on the behind-the-stage tickets for Friday.
It's funny that people say "PJ is a business" but don't think we as consumers have the right to complain.
Hail, Hail!!!
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
*sigh
Maddona signed a deal with Live Nation. Madonna will now only play shows at Live Nation venues and Live Nation can use their machine to make and close concert deals at once. Live Nation > Curtis Management.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
RIGHT!
When is it ever enough? What do you want from them? Their own personal phone numbers?
i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.
People have the right to vote, doesn't mean they make an education decision.
Free speech doesn't make it intelligent.
You can put me in that bucket. Unless they come to SLC again after this tour, this will be my last tour. Since there was no guarantee that they would come any closer to SLC than the West Coast, I shelled out the cash for San Diego tickets. I will end up spending around $250 just for the San Diego show after paying for gas, cheap motel, tickets...not to mention time off from work and time away from my wife and kids.
And now they announce a tour stop 20 minutes from my house?? I'll say it....the Ten Club sucks. Whoever plans the tour really sucks. Either they are trying to swindle people into attending multiple shows, or they haven't got a clue about how to plan a tour and market it to the loyal fan base.
I guess PJ just isn't a priority any more. It is clear that the fans are no longer a priority to the people who run the fan club. It would be one thing if they announced the East Coast leg in its entirety, then West Coast in its entirety. I wouldn't see anything to complain about there. But when I only have the time/budget to show, it would be nice to know that they are coming to my own freaking town before I spend money to go somewhere else.
Congrats, PJ/Ten Club. Well played. You'll get my money for two shows, and I'm sure I'll enjoy them, but I don't see how the bitter taste will go away any time soon.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Right.
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MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
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HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
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PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
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SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
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OK...you got me on that one........
yeah exactly. by making those comments, he is diverting a good bit of attention away from what i think is his main point. I'm not a fan of how they are releasing the concert dates either. It does make for some difficult planning etc. But the more tour dates the better, that's for sure.
You'll be back next tour. Pjtaper won't cancel his membership. We all know its true. You'll be cheery after the show is over. You'll buy tickets to the next one. Threat as much as you will, you know, I know, 10c knows everyone always comes back!
yup. that's why i got upset/annoyed. not because of what he said about 10c, but b/c of his generalizations of the South.
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