Show Announcement Method: It is what it is

Swanton

I consider myself a huge Pearl Jam fan, but I'd fall into the casual fan compared to most of the people on these boards.

I stressed for multiple days trying to get tickets to the 10/30 Pearl Jam show. I got shut out of the presale and then shut out of Comcast until they opened up seats behind the stage. I got those tickets and was excited to be in the building during the last show in Philly and (likely) in The Spectrum.

Now they announce another show on 10/31. Shit.

It's great that they are giving a chance for more people to see them play, but it sucks that I worried about buying tickets to "the last night" when it's not the last night of the Philly swing. Most people probably don't care about stuff like this, but it bothers me.

I grew up in South Jersey but curently live in Houston. I plan to fly out Thursday night, see them on Friday, and then I was going to do the Halloween thing with my young nephews. Now I have to figure out if I want to try and score tickets again for Saturday night as well.

I'm sure their announcement method makes sense business wise, but we all have our individual story of how this affects us . . . for better or worse. I, for one, would have liked to know. I would have held out for the Saturday show and passed on the behind-the-stage tickets for Friday.

U R A Crazy Breed

get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.

cincybearcat

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.

It's funny that people say "PJ is a business" but don't think we as consumers have the right to complain.

Cosmo

We don't know what the process is... all we can do is guess. Maybe there's a reason... maybe not. We don't know.

benjs

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.

Crazy Breed, I've gotta say - I love the way you send out good vibes in angry ways - makes me laugh

SolarWorld

cincybearcat wrote:

mfc2006 wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

I'm kinda surpised to see so many people that are OK with the way tours are being announced lately.

i'm not ok with it. i think it makes sense to announce all of the shows at once. but we don't know why they're doing it this way. maybe they booked a few shows & then decided to look into booking more b/c they wanted to play more. who knows?

my point was that it isn't 1991 anymore & they probably won't ever tour they way they used to b/c of how their lives have changed. yes, it sucks for us fans b/c the announcements are so spotty. but what can we do about it? it's their tour.

Seems liek they've gone the way of Maddona...short tours...multiple dates in 1 city...of course, her tours are announced all together and in advance, so maybe she's better at it then them, but there just getting started with this new touring plan...;)

*sigh

Maddona signed a deal with Live Nation. Madonna will now only play shows at Live Nation venues and Live Nation can use their machine to make and close concert deals at once. Live Nation > Curtis Management.

benjs

Cosmo wrote:

We don't know what the process is... all we can do is guess. Maybe there's a reason... maybe not. We don't know.

I've only been a fan since '05, so sometimes it really does surprise me to hear about things like the Rumor Pit.. I'm finding it harder and harder to believe that communicating with this band was ever dissimilar to communicating with a wall.

U R A Crazy Breed

cincybearcat wrote:

It's funny that people say "PJ is a business" but don't think we as consumers have the right to complain.

RIGHT!

benjs wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.

Crazy Breed, I've gotta say - I love the way you send out good vibes in angry ways - makes me laugh

"good vibes in angry ways "...i like that!

SolarWorld

benjs wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

We don't know what the process is... all we can do is guess. Maybe there's a reason... maybe not. We don't know.

I've only been a fan since '05, so sometimes it really does surprise me to hear about things like the Rumor Pit.. I'm finding it harder and harder to believe that communicating with this band was ever dissimilar to communicating with a wall.

When is it ever enough? What do you want from them? Their own personal phone numbers?

glb

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.

i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.

SolarWorld

cincybearcat wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.

It's funny that people say "PJ is a business" but don't think we as consumers have the right to complain.

People have the right to vote, doesn't mean they make an education decision.

Free speech doesn't make it intelligent.

AA64768

bootlegger10 wrote:

It is best not to ask questions that are critical of the band on here. PJ was able to announce 30 shows at once, and now they struggle to announce shows in 5 cities over a 6 week period. We just have to accept it. If I was from SLC and I decided to go to Seattle, and then find out they were coming to my city a month later, I would be pissed as hell. Especially when they had a hold at the SLC venue since April.

You can put me in that bucket. Unless they come to SLC again after this tour, this will be my last tour. Since there was no guarantee that they would come any closer to SLC than the West Coast, I shelled out the cash for San Diego tickets. I will end up spending around $250 just for the San Diego show after paying for gas, cheap motel, tickets...not to mention time off from work and time away from my wife and kids.

And now they announce a tour stop 20 minutes from my house?? I'll say it....the Ten Club sucks. Whoever plans the tour really sucks. Either they are trying to swindle people into attending multiple shows, or they haven't got a clue about how to plan a tour and market it to the loyal fan base.

I guess PJ just isn't a priority any more. It is clear that the fans are no longer a priority to the people who run the fan club. It would be one thing if they announced the East Coast leg in its entirety, then West Coast in its entirety. I wouldn't see anything to complain about there. But when I only have the time/budget to show, it would be nice to know that they are coming to my own freaking town before I spend money to go somewhere else.

Congrats, PJ/Ten Club. Well played. You'll get my money for two shows, and I'm sure I'll enjoy them, but I don't see how the bitter taste will go away any time soon.

benjs

glb wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.

i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.

I agree. I wish pjtaper would stop generalizing like this, so we can focus on those statements of value that he makes!

Flagg

glb wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.

i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.

Right.

SolarWorld

AA64768 wrote:

bootlegger10 wrote:

I'll say it....the Ten Club sucks. Whoever plans the tour really sucks. Either they are trying to swindle people into attending multiple shows, or they haven't got a clue about how to plan a tour and market it to the loyal fan base.

:roll:

patrickredeyes

Taper has left the building..........he is gone from the board and done pissing some of you off for the day. :P

U R A Crazy Breed

glb wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.

i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.

OK...you got me on that one........

glb

benjs wrote:

glb wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.

i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.

I agree. I wish pjtaper would stop generalizing like this, so we can focus on those statements of value that he makes!

yeah exactly. by making those comments, he is diverting a good bit of attention away from what i think is his main point. I'm not a fan of how they are releasing the concert dates either. It does make for some difficult planning etc. But the more tour dates the better, that's for sure.

OceansJenny

AA64768 wrote:

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You can put me in that bucket. Unless they come to SLC again after this tour, this will be my last tour.

You'll be back next tour. Pjtaper won't cancel his membership. We all know its true. You'll be cheery after the show is over. You'll buy tickets to the next one. Threat as much as you will, you know, I know, 10c knows everyone always comes back!

mfc2006

glb wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

get off pjtapers dick...he's a good guy...so what if he has a problem with the way 10c handles shit...who the fuck are you to tell him not to be upset? the most annoying people around here are the wanna be mods/thread police with their constant bullshit...sometimes a guy just needs to vent his frustrations and the last thing you need when you feel like that is some asshole telling you what you "should" be doing or saying.

i don't give a rats ass what he has to say about the way 10c handles shit. What's the point of throwing in that tidbit about him hating the south?? That has no place here, and it is damn ignorant of him to generalize an area of the country because of what happened to him in one small town. Hey, I'm sorry it happened to him. Small town cops can be dicks, just like anywhere else. But now he's being the ass in this instance. I wish the laws weren't what they are, but guess what.... they are.

yup. that's why i got upset/annoyed. not because of what he said about 10c, but b/c of his generalizations of the South.