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Ed making the U.S a more dangerous place for you and I
I know I will probably receive some slack for this but it been on my mind for a few days so here it goes. A few days ago i got the Mansfield 2(great show!). I found what Ed said after whipping to be a bit out of line and it sort of pissed me off. If you do know what he said here is a abbreviated summary. After rocking out whipping he talks about a marine recruiting person being at the first Mansfield show. He then states how some of his best friends are marines and ex-marines and how he supports their work. He goes on to say that he has a relationship with the people there to see the gig and he felt that the marine recruiter there was trying to get them to "bite a poison apple" and "these are our people and we're trying to take care of them", "so there is no marine recruiting center out there, its gone". Ok now I am sure theres a good chance that the marines where not going to get anyone to sign up for the marines at a Pearl Jam concert but what was the harm in having them there? Its those marines and other armed forces branches that fight and die so that Ed can verbally criticize the leaders of the country he lives in. Go to Iran Ed and say some shit about their leaders in front of 15,000 of their citizens, see how that works out for ya. Its those great people that helped rescues victims of hurricane Katrina. Its those great people that keep our country safe ect ect. Now why would Ed want to prevent people from signing up for the marines? (no matter how small the contribution) The armed forces of today rely on future personnel to relieve them in time of war and relief, learn new things and ways to aid them in future conflicts, and to make them more stronger and safer in the numbers ect. Low recruiting numbers effect the troops of today in a very negative way and it angers me Ed contributes to that. Its like we should all thank him for the marine recruiter removal because we all agree with what Eddie thinks. Are there really that many puppets at the shows that Eddie can assume we all wanted the removal? If he felt that bad about a recruiter being there, fine, have them removed for the 2nd show, but dont announce it and assume we all think your a hero for doing so. I think Ed needs to lay off the bottles of wine and watch what he says at shows. It may come back to him some day. I applaud and respect the men and women who want to join the armed forces. I hope the keep doing it, in great numbers. They are the only reason our country safe with leaders like this.
Many many wonderful shows, since day one.
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If said doing all of those things was "taking a bite of the Apple"... then he his influence, what ever it may be, would be damaging.
And for the life of me, I don't see how this is making the U.S. a more dangerous place. Talk about fear mongering.
(Shawn Smith's official website, but not Thee Shawn Smith)
Indeed.
Besides, Pearl Jam tries to promote Peace. Make love not war
Peace.
Won't let the darkness swallow me.
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It really isn't making an immediate impact, but if more people thought like Ed it would. You don't see how lower troop numbers can make the US a more dangerous place? Another reason it make more of a danger is because here we have people making assumptions for us and it adds to the number of people who do not think for them selves. Thats how the leaders we have now get away with all the crap they do. And as for the UNAUTHORIZED SOLICITATION the band doesn't own the venue. It's not fear mongering just a discussion. Take care.
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lol thats a good one, gave me a laugh.
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Agreed my good man/woman
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Stupid war that has wasted lives, money, and goodwill around the world, all because a bunch of fat government fucks had a brain-dead fantasy about controlling the Middle East's oil reserves.
Yet the troops are there to fight for our freedom and safety. They are people just like me and you, mostly courageously doing what they think is right and necessary, for little pay and less acknowledgement and support.
Our soldiers' lives are being wasted. Having a recruiting station is like saying "the Iraq war is great".
That's what I heard Eddie saying that night.
Dude, Eddie isn't telling people they can't or shouldn't join the military. He's voicing his personal opinion of things and just not allowing them to recruit in an unauthorized manner at his concert. See, that would imply an endorsement by the band and/or the venue. That's not cool. That could be construed as the recruiter using deceipt to sign those very people you claim "do not think for themselves."
Every business operating at a venue has gone to great lengths to do so...the concessionaires, any charity booths, Verizon, etc. You can't just set up shop because you want to.
What he's saying about taking care of his people...fans come to the show to enjoy the band, not be solicited by a recruiter that isn't following rules. If they want to join the military, they can still do so. We'll all be ok even if this guy can't convert a Lib Pearl Jam fan or two at a concert.
(Shawn Smith's official website, but not Thee Shawn Smith)
http://seanbriceart.com/
True, true. Very true.
Won't let the darkness swallow me.
Good to hear someones thoughts on the subject with out sarcasm. The whole "ohh iam scared to leave my house thing" is really unnecessary. It was just a thought I had while listening to a concert.
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Was the recruiter there in an unauthorized manner? If he was I apologize but I did not see that confirmed anywhere.
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has anyone witnessed the same activity at any other "anti-war" music bands?
Uncalled for and disgusting.
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GWB and his war based on lies. The Iraq war is why numbers are down. Many killed or injured, leaving the real war against terrorism in afganistan suffering.
since when do they have recruiters at rocknroll shows.
I support all troops and wish ffor them to be used WHEN REQUIRED not for oil
If you have to persuade someone to fight a battle, that battle is not worth fighting..
You want recruits? Fight a real unfabricated war.. people would line up, guarunteed.
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I agree the post title was a bit over the top. I do support peace. i pray for it every night, but we still need them for when the next Hurricane, earthquake, terrorist attacks hit among many other things. If we where not involved in a bullshit war would Ed have them removed???
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areed friend
It's Pearl Jam's concert, so we'll go by Pearl Jam's rules. Obviously no recruiters is a rule they have. Kaboom, I love it and I can't quit laughing at the thought of them packing up there shit and hitting the exit gate. If anyone has this on video tape, can I do a B&P?
Ed loves his country. It's like when you love your kids, if they do something wrong, you tell them. You don't sit quite and let them hurt themselves and others. You try and do something to help. America is wrong for this war. If you can't see that by now, you are either dumb, or your trying to save face.
For the record I have relatives in Iraq, and I support them. The only reason to be against a war is so people don't die. So how could I not be for the troops? I don't want them to die. That makes me the bad guy, how wierd is that?