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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,223
    DE4173 said:

    It’s great someone with a Canuck flag cares about the US House. What exactly are dems going to do with the House? Subpoena and investigate? Thats worked out really well for dems. 

    Instead of trying to identify why the party is shrinking and completely untouchable for voters in more that half the states and therefore no current path to take the senate, which means no path for future Justices on the Court. But let’s get that House!
  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,608
    I agree, I'm just sharing.
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,223
    Cool.  Ms. Watts had built an impressive network (but never made her cause digestible to enough voters to matter for her cause on Election Day) but her focus on the house says a lot about dems lack of big picture focus.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,464
    DE4173 said:

    It’s great someone with a Canuck flag cares about the US House. What exactly are dems going to do with the House? Subpoena and investigate? Thats worked out really well for dems. 

    Instead of trying to identify why the party is shrinking and completely untouchable for voters in more that half the states and therefore no current path to take the senate, which means no path for future Justices on the Court. But let’s get that House!
    You’re so right. The House means nothing in the political system. I can’t believe anyone cares who has 50% of the branches in a bicameral system. 

    And of course your last paragraph points out the one immutable law in politics, business and life: you can only do one thing at a time. No way can a party try to win the House AND try “to identify why the party is shrinking”. One of the other. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,223
    mrussel1 said:
    DE4173 said:

    It’s great someone with a Canuck flag cares about the US House. What exactly are dems going to do with the House? Subpoena and investigate? Thats worked out really well for dems. 

    Instead of trying to identify why the party is shrinking and completely untouchable for voters in more that half the states and therefore no current path to take the senate, which means no path for future Justices on the Court. But let’s get that House!
    You’re so right. The House means nothing in the political system. I can’t believe anyone cares who has 50% of the branches in a bicameral system. 

    And of course your last paragraph points out the one immutable law in politics, business and life: you can only do one thing at a time. No way can a party try to win the House AND try “to identify why the party is shrinking”. One of the other. 
    The senate SHOULD be up for grabs next year. Losing those three red seats, and the dems sprinting to the AOC Bernie wing of the party, I don’t see how that’s possible. Without the senate, not sure what the dems will ever accomplish, especially since they can not shut down the govt to get their budgets thru. They will always need gop votes.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,464
    mrussel1 said:
    DE4173 said:

    It’s great someone with a Canuck flag cares about the US House. What exactly are dems going to do with the House? Subpoena and investigate? Thats worked out really well for dems. 

    Instead of trying to identify why the party is shrinking and completely untouchable for voters in more that half the states and therefore no current path to take the senate, which means no path for future Justices on the Court. But let’s get that House!
    You’re so right. The House means nothing in the political system. I can’t believe anyone cares who has 50% of the branches in a bicameral system. 

    And of course your last paragraph points out the one immutable law in politics, business and life: you can only do one thing at a time. No way can a party try to win the House AND try “to identify why the party is shrinking”. One of the other. 
    The senate SHOULD be up for grabs next year. Losing those three red seats, and the dems sprinting to the AOC Bernie wing of the party, I don’t see how that’s possible. Without the senate, not sure what the dems will ever accomplish, especially since they can not shut down the govt to get their budgets thru. They will always need gop votes.
    There are enough reasonable GOP votes in the senate to keep the govt functioning. 

    And this is neither the first or last time a party moves to the wing in the aftermath of a general election loss. It’s all so predictable. Doom and gloom until it isn’t. 
  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,608
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,464
    DE4173 said:
    Maybe you can explain why Trump declined to extend FEMA funding in NC since it’s so bad that a MD senator should be in NC rather than supporting a resident of his state whose husband is illegally detained. 

    Then you can explain what crime the man was convicted of, because as far as I have read, there is no crime. And if there is no crime then you can explain why you are posting bullshit here. 

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,753
    Also western NC are all GOP districts. Why aren’t they doing shit for their own constituents? 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,223
    edited 3:58PM
    DE4173 said:


    For context, this is that comment

    ” Can anyone explain to me why democrats are flying to other countries to help illegal immigrant criminals…
    …but none of them came here, to Western North Carolina, to help their fellow Americans?”

    Most of that sentiment is justified. But the faithful will never believe it’s their own damn fault. Based on the huge AOC Bernie rallies, the dems have opinions that are lost on most voters…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9N5knQaO-0

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,753
    I mean, Kamala did go there, but whatever. Facts aren't important when you need to cultivate outrage.

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,753
    Its also possible to have both. Reach Middle America and have progressive policies.

  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,608
    Please tell me AOC is not doing the Hillary/Kamala fake accents at rallies.
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,753
    If you got that from a right wing media outlet or account, then she probably isn't.

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,464
    DE4173 said:


    For context, this is that comment

    ” Can anyone explain to me why democrats are flying to other countries to help illegal immigrant criminals…
    …but none of them came here, to Western North Carolina, to help their fellow Americans?”

    Most of that sentiment is justified. But the faithful will never believe it’s their own damn fault. Based on the huge AOC Bernie rallies, the dems have opinions that are lost on most voters…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9N5knQaO-0

    The senator that flew to El Salvador was doing so on behalf of one of his constituents, whose husband (never been convicted of a crime),  is jailed with no way out.  So no, that statement isn't "justified", it's bullshit.  And you've now lost your ability to see through bs and false equivalency.  

    And btw, now the SCOTUS has halted deportations under the Alien Act. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,710
    mrussel1 said:
    DE4173 said:


    For context, this is that comment

    ” Can anyone explain to me why democrats are flying to other countries to help illegal immigrant criminals…
    …but none of them came here, to Western North Carolina, to help their fellow Americans?”

    Most of that sentiment is justified. But the faithful will never believe it’s their own damn fault. Based on the huge AOC Bernie rallies, the dems have opinions that are lost on most voters…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9N5knQaO-0

    The senator that flew to El Salvador was doing so on behalf of one of his constituents, whose husband (never been convicted of a crime),  is jailed with no way out.  So no, that statement isn't "justified", it's bullshit.  And you've now lost your ability to see through bs and false equivalency.  

    And btw, now the SCOTUS has halted deportations under the Alien Act. 
    The YouTube rabbit hole is a dark place.
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  • hunterh75hunterh75 Posts: 68
    DE4173 said:
    Please tell me AOC is not doing the Hillary/Kamala fake accents at rallies.
    Yep, she even carries hot sauce in her purse, lol. Lefty loonies
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,753
    Certain people co-signing it tells you she isn’t doing it
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,349
    DE4173 said:


    For context, this is that comment

    ” Can anyone explain to me why democrats are flying to other countries to help illegal immigrant criminals…
    …but none of them came here, to Western North Carolina, to help their fellow Americans?”

    Most of that sentiment is justified. But the faithful will never believe it’s their own damn fault. Based on the huge AOC Bernie rallies, the dems have opinions that are lost on most voters…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9N5knQaO-0

    why are the republicans that represent those districts not there demanding additional fema assistance?

    always on here having to point fingers at the dems, when the dems do not have any power, and they are the ones actually trying to fucking help people.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,710
    The Brandon administration was on the ground offering assistance and the repub conspiracy machine convinced folks not to sign up or take advantage of FEMA assistance. Something about a gubmint plot to steal their land. Only 17% of those eligible for FEMA assistance signed up. Regarding infrastructure, you get what you vote for. Elections have consequences and stupid won. No sympathy.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,753
    edited 9:13PM
    But 30,000 ft view, it also takes time to clean up after a disaster of this magnitude. Especially in the more rural areas. Plus people are trying to deal with (what’s left of) FEMA, insurance companies, local governance. As hard and as frustrating as it is, it takes time. 

    But that’s the beauty and detriment of social media. Some asshole like that Twitter account (I saw it on Bluesky as well, so it’s a coordinated shitpost) can do a drive by post, lobbing some meat to the wolves, and then be on their way to stir up shit elsewhere. 

    There’s a reasoned and well executed ‘hey here’s an issue that needs to be dealt with’ way posting. That ain’t it. 
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,384
    DE4173 said:


    For context, this is that comment

    ” Can anyone explain to me why democrats are flying to other countries to help illegal immigrant criminals…
    …but none of them came here, to Western North Carolina, to help their fellow Americans?”

    Most of that sentiment is justified. But the faithful will never believe it’s their own damn fault. Based on the huge AOC Bernie rallies, the dems have opinions that are lost on most voters…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9N5knQaO-0

    I’m curious where you get your information. Your perceptions of political trends and voter responsiveness seems off. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,753
    30 thousand of 75 million democratic voters show up for a Bernie AOC rally.



    Democrats have lost their way! 
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,384
    DE4173 said:
    Please tell me AOC is not doing the Hillary/Kamala fake accents at rallies.
    Do you think a Puerto Rican who grew up in the nyc metro is going to sound like a white Canadian? 
  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,608
    I guess I don't know the purpose it serves. 

    Is it too much to talk the way you normally would?
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,753
    Is there a link to her doing it? 
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,384
    DE4173 said:
    I guess I don't know the purpose it serves. 

    Is it too much to talk the way you normally would?
    Who says it’s not how she normally talks? Code switching is a thing, but I don’t know how many white North Americans see the cultural aspects of it. 
  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,608
    They've had very successful rallies and are excellent ambassadors for the Democratic party. AOC raised $9M+. I know Bernie is too old for another POTUS run, but I'm glad he's stayed engaged. Of course, lots of people are interested in AOC future plans. 
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    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,027
    DE4173 said:
    Please tell me AOC is not doing the Hillary/Kamala fake accents at rallies.

    I mentioned to my wife the Faux News GIANT LETTER hyperbolic headline,

    Social media erupts after AOC debuts another 'strange' accent at rally: 'Kamala’s playbook'

    and she replied, "Oh well, if she really did that, it wouldn't surprise me at all.  When I go back to Texas to visit relatives, in five minutes I sound more Texan than a Texan."
    I know what she means.  Years ago, I went back to Tennessee to visit a friend, and in no time a word like "dog" became "daaawwwog".  It's uncanny, but it happens.

    And besides, what a stupid-ass thing for MAGAs to bitch about.  Fer cryin' aaout laaoud, citizens!

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