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Halifax2TheMax said:

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mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

Let’s just say I personally wouldn’t scream racism because someone said “pimp cane”, and I don’t think ableism is at the root of this. They both said stupid shit. Neither quote is news worthy, imo. Just more clickbait to rile people up. Thanks for pointing out the color of everyone’s skin who was involved, though. Super helpful, it’s a good example of how persuasive that tactic can be to those with preconceived notions that every unfavorable outcome for people of color is due to racism. Headlines are really good at that too. Click, click.  

Like racism doesn’t exist and DEI was unneeded. What year were you figuring you’d be replaced?

I live in Texas, a majority minority state. If I was afraid of being replaced by “the other”, as you so affectionately call them, I'd move somewhere like New England where it will likely never happen. There are more minorities living in Texas than there are humans in NE, let that sink in. Try the replaced schtick on someone else. And to think you’d love nothing more than Texas being banished from your beloved country. Who are you really fighting for? 

Halifax2TheMax

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

FiveBelow said:

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mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

Let’s just say I personally wouldn’t scream racism because someone said “pimp cane”, and I don’t think ableism is at the root of this. They both said stupid shit. Neither quote is news worthy, imo. Just more clickbait to rile people up. Thanks for pointing out the color of everyone’s skin who was involved, though. Super helpful, it’s a good example of how persuasive that tactic can be to those with preconceived notions that every unfavorable outcome for people of color is due to racism. Headlines are really good at that too. Click, click.  

Like racism doesn’t exist and DEI was unneeded. What year were you figuring you’d be replaced?

For many DEI is about removing qualified people from their jobs without cause, lying about their skills on the way out, and appointing DEI people to fill these positions. Fantastic cause you got there.

Please point to a source. Thank you.

mrussel1

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DE4173 said:

You might want someone to burst it for you.

Unfortunately for the dems, the Rs are masters at turning presidential elections into circus like culture wars, and then are masters at winning the argument and making dem mantra look foolish. We were all around last fall?

either dems begin to understand how the game is won, or let someone else play.

they've lost exactly one election in a row.  Give it a rest.

0.333 BA against trump, who probably would have coasted in 2020 had Covid not turned the election into a bizarre campaign from home for “Sleepy Joe.”

Maybe we need to stop nominating women?  You should run with that one.  Maybe that's the problem. 

I didn't realize Trump was going to run in every election forevermore.  Now that I know that, I am concerned.  But keep talking about what "would have" happened.  You have become really good at ungrounded statements.  

You were downplaying trumps victory. That smells like dem spirit. Grounded in a reality they don’t fare too well in. With a decent economic record, they were completely shut out of all branches of leadership by voters. I wouldn’t downplay that result.

Men winning elections is an unfortunate reality in this country. I don’t support that bias, but if it were my job to win elections, I’d sure as sh!t take notice of it. And 2020 basement campaigning wasn’t the most bizarre of political rallies ever? Since we are criticizing posters here, not recognizing that is extremely ungrounded.

Downplaying?  No, I'm saying Dems lost one election in a row which is empirically true.  They lost the one before but won two previous, prior to losing two previous.  Do you not remember in 2021 when everyone said Trump was dead, DeSantis was the future, even Fox?  Shit changes.  Everything looks bleak in the media until it doesn't.  I don't see you commenting on the Dems winning back both the House and Senate in PA last night.  The senate win was a major upset 

https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-democratic-party-donald-trump-election-094e907bd9af0d55a3ac76bb5e22d17c

Oh and here's the sub-lede from Fox:  The House race is the fifth straight special election that Democrats have won so far in 2025, despite the party performing dismally in public opinion polling since losing control of the White House and Senate, and failing to win back the House majority in the 2024 elections.

Sure that state senate win was terrific but did any media outlets report the turnout? Probably about half of what the last vote total was. If the last election was around 50% then this turnout was about 25%. MAGA has turned the tables on Dems, now they only win elections with low turnout. Maybe. But none is talking turnout in these upset elections.

Trump drives turnout.  That era is gone.  He will be on no more ballots short of a Constitutional Amendment, which isn't happening.  So asking how the turnout compared to November, a general election, is a ridiculous question.  Special elections and not even mid terms compare to general elections.  So if you're just going to boo-hoo and be negative until 2028 because your answer is "how did that compare to the last election", then you're going to be a real fucking drag around here.  Rather than focusing on the actual impact of the election, in this case having the D's control both branches in PA.  

Turnout is always essential in any post election analysis, especially special elections. The next major election is next November, which I hope democrats can retake the house. The US senate may be gone for a long time, due to the key losses of three red state senators, which helped the Dems for a long time. 

When I think of PA elections…I see the big picture, to many analysts, they see PA as a potential big problem. They say it’s becoming very similar to Ohio.

 I question Democratic Party norms for good reason. They have been losing ground in states sorely needed and will lose close to ten electoral votes/ House seats in the next census and their answer is to rally around AOC / Bernie…IIRC, politicians we both saw as problematic for Dems five years ago

Five years ago, all anyone could say was "demographics are destiny", pointing that the GOP is losing the demo war and they will continue to entrench into fewer and fewer states.  Now, they make a few inroads in the Hispanic community and the narrative has flipped.  The lesson is that nothing is written in stone.  You need policies that appeal to people and are common sense.  No one is arguing against that. 

But no one's "answer" is to rally around Bernie and AOC.  That's your narrative.  There is no homogenous Democratic party.  You can't label it with a few people.  We've heard about Bernie for over a decade and the only consistent thing is that he has high enthusiasm from a low number of people.  I like the guy, he's a character and passionate and principled.  He's not the leader of the party today nor was he in 2016 or 2020.  Obviously.  And there's nothing to indicate AOC is, unless your barometer is the number of articles that Fox writes about her.  

Halifax2TheMax

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mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

Let’s just say I personally wouldn’t scream racism because someone said “pimp cane”, and I don’t think ableism is at the root of this. They both said stupid shit. Neither quote is news worthy, imo. Just more clickbait to rile people up. Thanks for pointing out the color of everyone’s skin who was involved, though. Super helpful, it’s a good example of how persuasive that tactic can be to those with preconceived notions that every unfavorable outcome for people of color is due to racism. Headlines are really good at that too. Click, click.  

Like racism doesn’t exist and DEI was unneeded. What year were you figuring you’d be replaced?

I live in Texas, a majority minority state. If I was afraid of being replaced by “the other”, as you so affectionately call them, I'd move somewhere like New England where it will likely never happen. There are more minorities living in Texas than there are humans in NE, let that sink in. Try the replaced schtick on someone else. And to think you’d love nothing more than Texas being banished from your beloved country. Who are you really fighting for? 

Let’s deconstruct your post monkey post response and the above, shall we? Bolded are your statements followed by my response:

 I personally wouldn’t scream racism because someone said “pimp cane”,

“Someone “? It wasn’t Joe the Plumber but a member of the House of Representatives and yet another dog whistle in a long line of them. Cadillac driving welfare queen, free Obama phones, DEI hire.

Just more clickbait to rile people up. 

“Clickbait”? It occurred in the House of Representatives where I expect both sides to focus on debating legislation to improve the lives for the greatest majority of average Americans, not exhibiting their racism and petty 6th grade bully behaviour. I’m sorry, but not surprised, that your standards and expectations are so low. If I don’t click on it, did it not happen? Weird.

Thanks for pointing out the color of everyone’s skin who was involved, though

Already responded to but here it is again:

Guess I’m not the only one pointing out folks’ skin color. From Letter From An American:

Hegseth publicly suggested that Brown had been appointed because he is Black. “Was it because of his skin color? Or his skill? We’ll never know, but always doubt,” Hegseth wrote.

those with preconceived notions that every unfavorable outcome for people of color is due to racism

Where have I, or anyone on these forums, said, “‘every’ unfavourable outcome for people of color is due to racism”? To deny the long, 400+ years of racist policies and treatment of minorities and how its impact and practice continues to this day is either willful ignorance and/or, I won’t say it. I’ll bet the 1619 Project and DEI terrifies you, eh?

There are more minorities living in Texas than there are humans in NE, let that sink in.

Racists live everywhere, as do racist governors and other elected officials. A minority majority state doesn’t make racism or racist policies, treatment of minorities, etc. go away. Are we to assume that because you’re living in a minority majority state that you’re not racist? Should we assume that of everyone who lives in Tejas?

Tejas ranks 31st in the US for median family income for all races, sexes and age. Maine 29th; Vermont 20th; Rhode Island 13th; New Hampshire 6th; Connecticut 5th and Massachusetts 2nd.

The poverty rate for Texas is 13.8%. Vermont 10.3%; Rhode Island; 10.9%; Maine 10.8%; New Hampshire 7.2%; Connecticut 10%; Massachusetts 10% 

Edited to include homicide rates:

Tejas 7.6/100K; CT 4.3; ME 2.6; MA 2.5; RI 2.0; NH 1.8; VT unavailable.

Maybe Tejas would be better off under Mexico? Let that sink in.

Halifax2TheMax

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Halifax2TheMax said:

DE4173 said:

You might want someone to burst it for you.

Unfortunately for the dems, the Rs are masters at turning presidential elections into circus like culture wars, and then are masters at winning the argument and making dem mantra look foolish. We were all around last fall?

either dems begin to understand how the game is won, or let someone else play.

they've lost exactly one election in a row.  Give it a rest.

0.333 BA against trump, who probably would have coasted in 2020 had Covid not turned the election into a bizarre campaign from home for “Sleepy Joe.”

Maybe we need to stop nominating women?  You should run with that one.  Maybe that's the problem. 

I didn't realize Trump was going to run in every election forevermore.  Now that I know that, I am concerned.  But keep talking about what "would have" happened.  You have become really good at ungrounded statements.  

You were downplaying trumps victory. That smells like dem spirit. Grounded in a reality they don’t fare too well in. With a decent economic record, they were completely shut out of all branches of leadership by voters. I wouldn’t downplay that result.

Men winning elections is an unfortunate reality in this country. I don’t support that bias, but if it were my job to win elections, I’d sure as sh!t take notice of it. And 2020 basement campaigning wasn’t the most bizarre of political rallies ever? Since we are criticizing posters here, not recognizing that is extremely ungrounded.

Downplaying?  No, I'm saying Dems lost one election in a row which is empirically true.  They lost the one before but won two previous, prior to losing two previous.  Do you not remember in 2021 when everyone said Trump was dead, DeSantis was the future, even Fox?  Shit changes.  Everything looks bleak in the media until it doesn't.  I don't see you commenting on the Dems winning back both the House and Senate in PA last night.  The senate win was a major upset 

https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-democratic-party-donald-trump-election-094e907bd9af0d55a3ac76bb5e22d17c

Oh and here's the sub-lede from Fox:  The House race is the fifth straight special election that Democrats have won so far in 2025, despite the party performing dismally in public opinion polling since losing control of the White House and Senate, and failing to win back the House majority in the 2024 elections.

Sure that state senate win was terrific but did any media outlets report the turnout? Probably about half of what the last vote total was. If the last election was around 50% then this turnout was about 25%. MAGA has turned the tables on Dems, now they only win elections with low turnout. Maybe. But none is talking turnout in these upset elections.

Trump drives turnout.  That era is gone.  He will be on no more ballots short of a Constitutional Amendment, which isn't happening.  So asking how the turnout compared to November, a general election, is a ridiculous question.  Special elections and not even mid terms compare to general elections.  So if you're just going to boo-hoo and be negative until 2028 because your answer is "how did that compare to the last election", then you're going to be a real fucking drag around here.  Rather than focusing on the actual impact of the election, in this case having the D's control both branches in PA.  

Turnout is always essential in any post election analysis, especially special elections. The next major election is next November, which I hope democrats can retake the house. The US senate may be gone for a long time, due to the key losses of three red state senators, which helped the Dems for a long time. 

When I think of PA elections…I see the big picture, to many analysts, they see PA as a potential big problem. They say it’s becoming very similar to Ohio.

 I question Democratic Party norms for good reason. They have been losing ground in states sorely needed and will lose close to ten electoral votes/ House seats in the next census and their answer is to rally around AOC / Bernie…IIRC, politicians we both saw as problematic for Dems five years ago

Five years ago, all anyone could say was "demographics are destiny", pointing that the GOP is losing the demo war and they will continue to entrench into fewer and fewer states.  Now, they make a few inroads in the Hispanic community and the narrative has flipped.  The lesson is that nothing is written in stone.  You need policies that appeal to people and are common sense.  No one is arguing against that. 

But no one's "answer" is to rally around Bernie and AOC.  That's your narrative.  There is no homogenous Democratic party.  You can't label it with a few people.  We've heard about Bernie for over a decade and the only consistent thing is that he has high enthusiasm from a low number of people.  I like the guy, he's a character and passionate and principled.  He's not the leader of the party today nor was he in 2016 or 2020.  Obviously.  And there's nothing to indicate AOC is, unless your barometer is the number of articles that Fox writes about her.  

Or Maggie Three Names shouting from the rooftops that AOC IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE POTUS!!!

OnWis97

I enjoy them all laughing at AOC having been a bartender. It's almost like they don't actually believe that anyone can be anything they want through hard work and prefer perpetual aristocracy.

mrussel1

OnWis97 said:

I enjoy them all laughing at AOC having been a bartender. It's almost like they don't actually believe that anyone can be anything they want through hard work and prefer perpetual aristocracy.

You're looking for intellectual consistency where you'll find none.  As if it's a problem that a person in college or in their 20's worked in the service industry.  They celebrated Joe the Plumber.  How is he more qualified?

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

OnWis97 said:

I enjoy them all laughing at AOC having been a bartender. It's almost like they don't actually believe that anyone can be anything they want through hard work and prefer perpetual aristocracy.

You're looking for intellectual consistency where you'll find none.  As if it's a problem that a person in college or in their 20's worked in the service industry.  They celebrated Joe the Plumber.  How is he more qualified?

Like this?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHD4xi6x5Tk/?igsh=MW5ubXRjMXYyYnc1OQ==

mrussel1

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

OnWis97 said:

I enjoy them all laughing at AOC having been a bartender. It's almost like they don't actually believe that anyone can be anything they want through hard work and prefer perpetual aristocracy.

You're looking for intellectual consistency where you'll find none.  As if it's a problem that a person in college or in their 20's worked in the service industry.  They celebrated Joe the Plumber.  How is he more qualified?

Like this?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHD4xi6x5Tk/?igsh=MW5ubXRjMXYyYnc1OQ==

Similar, sure.  But I wouldn't even make the argument that guy is making.  There's a really good chance her ancestors came and lived in this country without knowing English.  

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mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

Let’s just say I personally wouldn’t scream racism because someone said “pimp cane”, and I don’t think ableism is at the root of this. They both said stupid shit. Neither quote is news worthy, imo. Just more clickbait to rile people up. Thanks for pointing out the color of everyone’s skin who was involved, though. Super helpful, it’s a good example of how persuasive that tactic can be to those with preconceived notions that every unfavorable outcome for people of color is due to racism. Headlines are really good at that too. Click, click.  

Like racism doesn’t exist and DEI was unneeded. What year were you figuring you’d be replaced?

I live in Texas, a majority minority state. If I was afraid of being replaced by “the other”, as you so affectionately call them, I'd move somewhere like New England where it will likely never happen. There are more minorities living in Texas than there are humans in NE, let that sink in. Try the replaced schtick on someone else. And to think you’d love nothing more than Texas being banished from your beloved country. Who are you really fighting for? 

Let’s deconstruct your post monkey post response and the above, shall we? Bolded are your statements followed by my response:

 I personally wouldn’t scream racism because someone said “pimp cane”,

“Someone “? It wasn’t Joe the Plumber but a member of the House of Representatives and yet another dog whistle in a long line of them. Cadillac driving welfare queen, free Obama phones, DEI hire.

Just more clickbait to rile people up. 

“Clickbait”? It occurred in the House of Representatives where I expect both sides to focus on debating legislation to improve the lives for the greatest majority of average Americans, not exhibiting their racism and petty 6th grade bully behaviour. I’m sorry, but not surprised, that your standards and expectations are so low. If I don’t click on it, did it not happen? Weird.

Thanks for pointing out the color of everyone’s skin who was involved, though

Already responded to but here it is again:

Guess I’m not the only one pointing out folks’ skin color. From Letter From An American:

Hegseth publicly suggested that Brown had been appointed because he is Black. “Was it because of his skin color? Or his skill? We’ll never know, but always doubt,” Hegseth wrote.

those with preconceived notions that every unfavorable outcome for people of color is due to racism

Where have I, or anyone on these forums, said, “‘every’ unfavourable outcome for people of color is due to racism”? To deny the long, 400+ years of racist policies and treatment of minorities and how its impact and practice continues to this day is either willful ignorance and/or, I won’t say it. I’ll bet the 1619 Project and DEI terrifies you, eh?

There are more minorities living in Texas than there are humans in NE, let that sink in.

Racists live everywhere, as do racist governors and other elected officials. A minority majority state doesn’t make racism or racist policies, treatment of minorities, etc. go away. Are we to assume that because you’re living in a minority majority state that you’re not racist? Should we assume that of everyone who lives in Tejas?

Tejas ranks 31st in the US for median family income for all races, sexes and age. Maine 29th; Vermont 20th; Rhode Island 13th; New Hampshire 6th; Connecticut 5th and Massachusetts 2nd.

The poverty rate for Texas is 13.8%. Vermont 10.3%; Rhode Island; 10.9%; Maine 10.8%; New Hampshire 7.2%; Connecticut 10%; Massachusetts 10% 

Maybe Tejas would be better off under Mexico? Let that sink in.

We'll just have to disagree that using "pimp" to describe something flashy is unequivocally rooted in racism.

Politicians say a lot of stupid shit. The last 9 years is probably the epitome of this. No need to alert the press every time it happens.

I don't need your whataboutisms to understand that making a point to identify ones skin color is not unique to only half of the duopoly. It's just not my thing, sorry.

You have a track record of making topics racially driven. Again, I live in Texas. Diversity doesn't scare me. As for my business, qualifications over skin color. Every. Single. Time. You'd be happy to know that of the 3,000+ employees over the last 22+ years, I'd safely say 95% are minority. Don't worry they are not being exploited, they are being rewarded for possessing a skill that in the commercial construction industry is essential for success. Since changing our model last year to subbing work in lieu of self performing, we've helped 5 prior employees (all minority) start their own businesses and continue to supply them work as they establish themselves.

Trust me, I know. I've been to Celtics and Red Sox games. You asked when I was going to be replaced, if skin color bothered me, we'd be in much closer proximity to one another. I love statistics! Ever considered the cost of living in a given area as it relates to median incomes? Poverty rate could obviously be better. You forgot to mention TX ranks 2nd in minority owned businesses and 2nd in percentage of minority owned businesses at 42.3%. Something you should definitely give kudos for. You know, the American dream and all. Not sure, but I imagine Mexico would love to more than double their GDP.

Good day, Hal. My time is up.

Halifax2TheMax

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mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

Let’s just say I personally wouldn’t scream racism because someone said “pimp cane”, and I don’t think ableism is at the root of this. They both said stupid shit. Neither quote is news worthy, imo. Just more clickbait to rile people up. Thanks for pointing out the color of everyone’s skin who was involved, though. Super helpful, it’s a good example of how persuasive that tactic can be to those with preconceived notions that every unfavorable outcome for people of color is due to racism. Headlines are really good at that too. Click, click.  

Like racism doesn’t exist and DEI was unneeded. What year were you figuring you’d be replaced?

I live in Texas, a majority minority state. If I was afraid of being replaced by “the other”, as you so affectionately call them, I'd move somewhere like New England where it will likely never happen. There are more minorities living in Texas than there are humans in NE, let that sink in. Try the replaced schtick on someone else. And to think you’d love nothing more than Texas being banished from your beloved country. Who are you really fighting for? 

Let’s deconstruct your post monkey post response and the above, shall we? Bolded are your statements followed by my response:

 I personally wouldn’t scream racism because someone said “pimp cane”,

“Someone “? It wasn’t Joe the Plumber but a member of the House of Representatives and yet another dog whistle in a long line of them. Cadillac driving welfare queen, free Obama phones, DEI hire.

Just more clickbait to rile people up. 

“Clickbait”? It occurred in the House of Representatives where I expect both sides to focus on debating legislation to improve the lives for the greatest majority of average Americans, not exhibiting their racism and petty 6th grade bully behaviour. I’m sorry, but not surprised, that your standards and expectations are so low. If I don’t click on it, did it not happen? Weird.

Thanks for pointing out the color of everyone’s skin who was involved, though

Already responded to but here it is again:

Guess I’m not the only one pointing out folks’ skin color. From Letter From An American:

Hegseth publicly suggested that Brown had been appointed because he is Black. “Was it because of his skin color? Or his skill? We’ll never know, but always doubt,” Hegseth wrote.

those with preconceived notions that every unfavorable outcome for people of color is due to racism

Where have I, or anyone on these forums, said, “‘every’ unfavourable outcome for people of color is due to racism”? To deny the long, 400+ years of racist policies and treatment of minorities and how its impact and practice continues to this day is either willful ignorance and/or, I won’t say it. I’ll bet the 1619 Project and DEI terrifies you, eh?

There are more minorities living in Texas than there are humans in NE, let that sink in.

Racists live everywhere, as do racist governors and other elected officials. A minority majority state doesn’t make racism or racist policies, treatment of minorities, etc. go away. Are we to assume that because you’re living in a minority majority state that you’re not racist? Should we assume that of everyone who lives in Tejas?

Tejas ranks 31st in the US for median family income for all races, sexes and age. Maine 29th; Vermont 20th; Rhode Island 13th; New Hampshire 6th; Connecticut 5th and Massachusetts 2nd.

The poverty rate for Texas is 13.8%. Vermont 10.3%; Rhode Island; 10.9%; Maine 10.8%; New Hampshire 7.2%; Connecticut 10%; Massachusetts 10% 

Maybe Tejas would be better off under Mexico? Let that sink in.

We'll just have to disagree that using "pimp" to describe something flashy is unequivocally rooted in racism.

Politicians say a lot of stupid shit. The last 9 years is probably the epitome of this. No need to alert the press every time it happens.

I don't need your whataboutisms to understand that making a point to identify ones skin color is not unique to only half of the duopoly. It's just not my thing, sorry.

You have a track record of making topics racially driven. Again, I live in Texas. Diversity doesn't scare me. As for my business, qualifications over skin color. Every. Single. Time. You'd be happy to know that of the 3,000+ employees over the last 22+ years, I'd safely say 95% are minority. Don't worry they are not being exploited, they are being rewarded for possessing a skill that in the commercial construction industry is essential for success. Since changing our model last year to subbing work in lieu of self performing, we've helped 5 prior employees (all minority) start their own businesses and continue to supply them work as they establish themselves.

Trust me, I know. I've been to Celtics and Red Sox games. You asked when I was going to be replaced, if skin color bothered me, we'd be in much closer proximity to one another. I love statistics! Ever considered the cost of living in a given area as it relates to median incomes? Poverty rate could obviously be better. You forgot to mention TX ranks 2nd in minority owned businesses and 2nd in percentage of minority owned businesses at 42.3%. Something you should definitely give kudos for. You know, the American dream and all. Not sure, but I imagine Mexico would love to more than double their GDP.

Good day, Hal. My time is up.

Your “world” is not the world writ large. Racism exists everywhere, even Boston. Speaking of which, Boston Red Sox 5, Tejas Rangers 2. Enjoy your evening. 

Halifax2TheMax

Seeing how some “love” statistics:

Rates of incarceration, per 100K:

Tejas, 751; CT, 326; NH, 278; ME, 272; RI, 254; VT, 245; MA, 241. Average for New England, seeing the comparison to Tejas: 229 versus 751.

Birth mortality rate per 1,000 live births:

Tejas, 5.72; ME, 6.37; VT, 4.89; CT, 4.25; RI, 3.9; NH, 3.48; MA, 3.32. Average for New England versus Tejas: 4.37/ 5.72.

Maternal death rate per 100,000 live births:

Could not find statistics for New England states so I’ll leave you with this as it relates to the greater conversation outside of cost of living and business ownership and individual hiring practices:

Tejas: The maternal mortality rate in 2020 was 27.7 deaths per 100,000 live births, compared to 17.2 in 2019. With COVID-related deaths excluded, the rate was 24.2.

But the report shows, once again, that maternal mortality does not impact every community equally. Black women are about 2.5 times more likely to die from pregnancy and childbirth than white women. Both Black and Hispanic women saw a sharp increase in pregnancy-related mortality between 2019 and 2020 — for Hispanic women the rate increased nearly 9 points to 22.2, and for Black women more than 11 points to 39. But white women actually saw an improvement, with the mortality rate dropping nearly 3 points to 16.1.

Additional reporting regarding Tejas:

The new reporting shows that, after the state banned abortion, dozens more pregnant and postpartum women died in Texas hospitals than had in pre-pandemic years, which ProPublica used as a baseline to avoid COVID-19-related distortions. As the maternal mortality rate dropped nationally, ProPublica found, it rose substantially in Texas.

Percent of population over the age of 25 with a high school diploma:

Tejas, 85.39; RI, 89.14; CT, 91.11; NH, 94.44; ME, 94.53; VT, 94.55; MA, 96.10. Average for New England 91.65 versus Tejas: 85.39.

Percent with a bachelor’s degree or higher:

Tejas, 33.12; ME, 35.99; RI, 36.50; NH, 40.98; CT, 42.13; VT, 44.44; MA, 50.62. Ave. for NE 41.77 vs Tejas 33.12.

Explains a lot.

So, given the fact that the above relates to Tejas, the majority minority state, does race factor into any of the data results? If not, and all things are equal, what are the causes of the differential? And don’t forget the difference in homicide rates. But hey, we’re #2 for GDP and living the dream, eh?

As an aside, WTF is up with Ken Doll’s squeeze and the dildo ban? Boring ban? Please explain. One last question, what percentage is 5 of 3,000+? I was never good in maths.

Halifax2TheMax

Lerxst1992 said:

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DE4173 said:

You might want someone to burst it for you.

Unfortunately for the dems, the Rs are masters at turning presidential elections into circus like culture wars, and then are masters at winning the argument and making dem mantra look foolish. We were all around last fall?

either dems begin to understand how the game is won, or let someone else play.

they've lost exactly one election in a row.  Give it a rest.

0.333 BA against trump, who probably would have coasted in 2020 had Covid not turned the election into a bizarre campaign from home for “Sleepy Joe.”

Maybe we need to stop nominating women?  You should run with that one.  Maybe that's the problem. 

I didn't realize Trump was going to run in every election forevermore.  Now that I know that, I am concerned.  But keep talking about what "would have" happened.  You have become really good at ungrounded statements.  

You were downplaying trumps victory. That smells like dem spirit. Grounded in a reality they don’t fare too well in. With a decent economic record, they were completely shut out of all branches of leadership by voters. I wouldn’t downplay that result.

Men winning elections is an unfortunate reality in this country. I don’t support that bias, but if it were my job to win elections, I’d sure as sh!t take notice of it. And 2020 basement campaigning wasn’t the most bizarre of political rallies ever? Since we are criticizing posters here, not recognizing that is extremely ungrounded.

Downplaying?  No, I'm saying Dems lost one election in a row which is empirically true.  They lost the one before but won two previous, prior to losing two previous.  Do you not remember in 2021 when everyone said Trump was dead, DeSantis was the future, even Fox?  Shit changes.  Everything looks bleak in the media until it doesn't.  I don't see you commenting on the Dems winning back both the House and Senate in PA last night.  The senate win was a major upset 

https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-democratic-party-donald-trump-election-094e907bd9af0d55a3ac76bb5e22d17c

Oh and here's the sub-lede from Fox:  The House race is the fifth straight special election that Democrats have won so far in 2025, despite the party performing dismally in public opinion polling since losing control of the White House and Senate, and failing to win back the House majority in the 2024 elections.

Sure that state senate win was terrific but did any media outlets report the turnout? Probably about half of what the last vote total was. If the last election was around 50% then this turnout was about 25%. MAGA has turned the tables on Dems, now they only win elections with low turnout. Maybe. But none is talking turnout in these upset elections.

What? Me worry? From Letter From An American:

Trump was forced to withdraw New York Republican representative Elise Stefanik’s name from consideration for ambassador to the United Nations out of concern that a Democrat might win her vacant seat, although Trump won her district in 2024 by 21 points.

DE4173

https://x.com/EricAbbenante/status/1905422938352091313?t=ISvGfVFUqMOTtc3gYz2w3Q&s=19

Jon Stewart screams 'OMFG' and is rendered speechless after hearing all 14 steps to apply for 'Build Back Better' funding:
Ezra Klein: "We have to issue the notice funding opportunity within 180 days that's step one.
Step Two: States who want to participate must submit a letter of intent. After they do that, they can submit a request for up to $5 million in planning grants.
Then the NTIA Step Four has to review and approve an award again. States who want to participate must submit that letter of intent.
Step three: "They can request up to $5 million in planning grants. Just planning, just planning.
Step four : "The requests are reviewed, approved and awarded by the NTIA." States must submit a five year action plan.  All 56 had passed through at least step 5, it took more than 3 years.
[Step 6] Then the FCC, must publish the broadband data maps before NTIA allocates funds. So having done the no vote. So the letters of intent, the the the request for planning grants, then the review approval and awarding of the planning grants, then the five year action plans in between that the federal government has to put forward a map saying where it thinks we need rural broadband subsidies. And then, of course, the states need an opportunity to challenge the map for accuracy.  

step seven So then the NTIA has to use the FCC maps to make allocation decisions. It's hard even to talk about this, man. 

Step eight is states must submit an initial proposal to the NTIA." 

Jon Stewart: "But then what was the five year plan and what the fuck did they apply for?" 

Ezra Klein: "Step nine NTIA must review and approve each state's again initial proposal. By my read, we have had at least two initial proposals here, but that's a different issue. 

Step ten. States must publish their own map and allow internal challenges to their own map.

Step 11 the NTIA must review and improve the challenge results and the final map. So the NCAA has put forward a map. 

Step 12 states must run a competitive sub granting process." 

Jon Stewart: "Oh, my fucking God. At step 12. After all this has been done!?" 

Ezra Klein: "Step 13 States must submit a final proposal. This all all the proposals weren't enough to NTIA. Now that goes to three of 56. 

Step 14 the NTIA must review and approve the state's final proposal. And that is three of the 56 jurisdictions. And states are there." 

Jon Stewart: "I'm speechless."

Jon just learned why "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'"

Gern Blansten

That actually seems like a process that works better than the PPP loan process or Employee Retention Credit fiasco

DE4173

Oh wow! I don't know how any of these work. 😬

mrussel1

Gern Blansten said:

That actually seems like a process that works better than the PPP loan process or Employee Retention Credit fiasco

ERC was the fiasco of all fiascos.  My company has three distinct separate organizations and one applied for the ERC before we bought them and it's been a huge hassle unwinding that because they really didn't qualify and it didn't benefit us.  Two years out, still dealing with it. 

DE4173

Good Lord! 😳

Gern Blansten

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

That actually seems like a process that works better than the PPP loan process or Employee Retention Credit fiasco

ERC was the fiasco of all fiascos.  My company has three distinct separate organizations and one applied for the ERC before we bought them and it's been a huge hassle unwinding that because they really didn't qualify and it didn't benefit us.  Two years out, still dealing with it. 

And I have one restaurant client that qualified due to Gov of Indiana orders and they can't get their return processed....over two years later. 

Luckily it's still in process supposedly.

I'll tell you what else sucks...I saw a lot of fraud in that program that I was certain the IRS would catch. I'm not sure that they will now. They extended the audit period on those returns from 3 years to 5 because they knew they would be busy. Now that can't even keep enough employees to answer the phone.

HughFreakingDillon

haha this is actually funny