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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,831
    DE4173 said:

    It’s great someone with a Canuck flag cares about the US House. What exactly are dems going to do with the House? Subpoena and investigate? Thats worked out really well for dems. 

    Instead of trying to identify why the party is shrinking and completely untouchable for voters in more that half the states and therefore no current path to take the senate, which means no path for future Justices on the Court. But let’s get that House!
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,792
    I agree, I'm just sharing.
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    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,831
    Cool.  Ms. Watts had built an impressive network (but never made her cause digestible to enough voters to matter for her cause on Election Day) but her focus on the house says a lot about dems lack of big picture focus.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Lerxst1992 said:
    DE4173 said:

    It’s great someone with a Canuck flag cares about the US House. What exactly are dems going to do with the House? Subpoena and investigate? Thats worked out really well for dems. 

    Instead of trying to identify why the party is shrinking and completely untouchable for voters in more that half the states and therefore no current path to take the senate, which means no path for future Justices on the Court. But let’s get that House!
    You’re so right. The House means nothing in the political system. I can’t believe anyone cares who has 50% of the branches in a bicameral system. 

    And of course your last paragraph points out the one immutable law in politics, business and life: you can only do one thing at a time. No way can a party try to win the House AND try “to identify why the party is shrinking”. One of the other. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,831
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    DE4173 said:

    It’s great someone with a Canuck flag cares about the US House. What exactly are dems going to do with the House? Subpoena and investigate? Thats worked out really well for dems. 

    Instead of trying to identify why the party is shrinking and completely untouchable for voters in more that half the states and therefore no current path to take the senate, which means no path for future Justices on the Court. But let’s get that House!
    You’re so right. The House means nothing in the political system. I can’t believe anyone cares who has 50% of the branches in a bicameral system. 

    And of course your last paragraph points out the one immutable law in politics, business and life: you can only do one thing at a time. No way can a party try to win the House AND try “to identify why the party is shrinking”. One of the other. 
    The senate SHOULD be up for grabs next year. Losing those three red seats, and the dems sprinting to the AOC Bernie wing of the party, I don’t see how that’s possible. Without the senate, not sure what the dems will ever accomplish, especially since they can not shut down the govt to get their budgets thru. They will always need gop votes.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    DE4173 said:

    It’s great someone with a Canuck flag cares about the US House. What exactly are dems going to do with the House? Subpoena and investigate? Thats worked out really well for dems. 

    Instead of trying to identify why the party is shrinking and completely untouchable for voters in more that half the states and therefore no current path to take the senate, which means no path for future Justices on the Court. But let’s get that House!
    You’re so right. The House means nothing in the political system. I can’t believe anyone cares who has 50% of the branches in a bicameral system. 

    And of course your last paragraph points out the one immutable law in politics, business and life: you can only do one thing at a time. No way can a party try to win the House AND try “to identify why the party is shrinking”. One of the other. 
    The senate SHOULD be up for grabs next year. Losing those three red seats, and the dems sprinting to the AOC Bernie wing of the party, I don’t see how that’s possible. Without the senate, not sure what the dems will ever accomplish, especially since they can not shut down the govt to get their budgets thru. They will always need gop votes.
    There are enough reasonable GOP votes in the senate to keep the govt functioning. 

    And this is neither the first or last time a party moves to the wing in the aftermath of a general election loss. It’s all so predictable. Doom and gloom until it isn’t. 
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,792
    https://x.com/matt_vanswol/status/1913182465029533902?t=KJpj5SGgWMkaIu-ebll4wQ&s=19
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    DE4173 said:
    https://x.com/matt_vanswol/status/1913182465029533902?t=KJpj5SGgWMkaIu-ebll4wQ&s=19
    Maybe you can explain why Trump declined to extend FEMA funding in NC since it’s so bad that a MD senator should be in NC rather than supporting a resident of his state whose husband is illegally detained. 

    Then you can explain what crime the man was convicted of, because as far as I have read, there is no crime. And if there is no crime then you can explain why you are posting bullshit here. 

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,516
    Also western NC are all GOP districts. Why aren’t they doing shit for their own constituents? 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,831
    edited April 19
    DE4173 said:
    https://x.com/matt_vanswol/status/1913182465029533902?t=KJpj5SGgWMkaIu-ebll4wQ&s=19


    For context, this is that comment

    ” Can anyone explain to me why democrats are flying to other countries to help illegal immigrant criminals…
    …but none of them came here, to Western North Carolina, to help their fellow Americans?”

    Most of that sentiment is justified. But the faithful will never believe it’s their own damn fault. Based on the huge AOC Bernie rallies, the dems have opinions that are lost on most voters…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9N5knQaO-0

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,516
    I mean, Kamala did go there, but whatever. Facts aren't important when you need to cultivate outrage.

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,516
    Its also possible to have both. Reach Middle America and have progressive policies.

  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,792
    Please tell me AOC is not doing the Hillary/Kamala fake accents at rallies.
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    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,516
    If you got that from a right wing media outlet or account, then she probably isn't.

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Lerxst1992 said:
    DE4173 said:
    https://x.com/matt_vanswol/status/1913182465029533902?t=KJpj5SGgWMkaIu-ebll4wQ&s=19


    For context, this is that comment

    ” Can anyone explain to me why democrats are flying to other countries to help illegal immigrant criminals…
    …but none of them came here, to Western North Carolina, to help their fellow Americans?”

    Most of that sentiment is justified. But the faithful will never believe it’s their own damn fault. Based on the huge AOC Bernie rallies, the dems have opinions that are lost on most voters…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9N5knQaO-0

    The senator that flew to El Salvador was doing so on behalf of one of his constituents, whose husband (never been convicted of a crime),  is jailed with no way out.  So no, that statement isn't "justified", it's bullshit.  And you've now lost your ability to see through bs and false equivalency.  

    And btw, now the SCOTUS has halted deportations under the Alien Act. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,022
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    DE4173 said:
    https://x.com/matt_vanswol/status/1913182465029533902?t=KJpj5SGgWMkaIu-ebll4wQ&s=19


    For context, this is that comment

    ” Can anyone explain to me why democrats are flying to other countries to help illegal immigrant criminals…
    …but none of them came here, to Western North Carolina, to help their fellow Americans?”

    Most of that sentiment is justified. But the faithful will never believe it’s their own damn fault. Based on the huge AOC Bernie rallies, the dems have opinions that are lost on most voters…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9N5knQaO-0

    The senator that flew to El Salvador was doing so on behalf of one of his constituents, whose husband (never been convicted of a crime),  is jailed with no way out.  So no, that statement isn't "justified", it's bullshit.  And you've now lost your ability to see through bs and false equivalency.  

    And btw, now the SCOTUS has halted deportations under the Alien Act. 
    The YouTube rabbit hole is a dark place.
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  • hunterh75
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    DE4173 said:
    Please tell me AOC is not doing the Hillary/Kamala fake accents at rallies.
    Yep, she even carries hot sauce in her purse, lol. Lefty loonies
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,516
    Certain people co-signing it tells you she isn’t doing it
  • gimmesometruth27
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    DE4173 said:
    https://x.com/matt_vanswol/status/1913182465029533902?t=KJpj5SGgWMkaIu-ebll4wQ&s=19


    For context, this is that comment

    ” Can anyone explain to me why democrats are flying to other countries to help illegal immigrant criminals…
    …but none of them came here, to Western North Carolina, to help their fellow Americans?”

    Most of that sentiment is justified. But the faithful will never believe it’s their own damn fault. Based on the huge AOC Bernie rallies, the dems have opinions that are lost on most voters…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9N5knQaO-0

    why are the republicans that represent those districts not there demanding additional fema assistance?

    always on here having to point fingers at the dems, when the dems do not have any power, and they are the ones actually trying to fucking help people.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    The Brandon administration was on the ground offering assistance and the repub conspiracy machine convinced folks not to sign up or take advantage of FEMA assistance. Something about a gubmint plot to steal their land. Only 17% of those eligible for FEMA assistance signed up. Regarding infrastructure, you get what you vote for. Elections have consequences and stupid won. No sympathy.
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