** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,119
    Philly NJ said:
    Did you see JD Vance is calling Walz a liar because him and his wife used IUI and not IVF?

    These people are vile. The disingenuousness oozes from their pores.
    it's disgusting...and Walz never said she used IVF...he said "fertility treatments like IVF"
    Updated 11:42 AM EDT, August 21, 2024
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — In March, after an Alabama court halted in vitro fertilization procedures in the state, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz decided to speak about his struggle to have children with his wife, Gwen. The same month, his team sent a fundraising email titled “our IVF journey” sharing an article that referenced “his family’s IVF journey” in the headline.

    And earlier this month, Walz criticized Ohio Sen. JD Vance, the Republican candidate for vice president, by saying, “If it was up to him, I wouldn’t have a family because of IVF.”

    In introducing himself to voters as Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris ’ running mate, Walz has made his family’s struggle with fertility a central part of his narrative, a tangible way to connect with voters alarmed at the erosion of reproductive rights in the U.S. But Gwen Walz on Tuesday issued a statement that detailed the experience more comprehensively and disclosed that they relied on a different process known as intrauterine insemination, or IUI.

    So this is a controversy to you? IVF vs IUI? 
    It’s the second bullet after the one about feminine hygiene product dispensers in boys/men’s rooms in their letter to the Kamala Kampaign, komrade.
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  • Philly NJ
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    Philly NJ said:
    Did you see JD Vance is calling Walz a liar because him and his wife used IUI and not IVF?

    These people are vile. The disingenuousness oozes from their pores.
    it's disgusting...and Walz never said she used IVF...he said "fertility treatments like IVF"
    Updated 11:42 AM EDT, August 21, 2024
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — In March, after an Alabama court halted in vitro fertilization procedures in the state, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz decided to speak about his struggle to have children with his wife, Gwen. The same month, his team sent a fundraising email titled “our IVF journey” sharing an article that referenced “his family’s IVF journey” in the headline.

    And earlier this month, Walz criticized Ohio Sen. JD Vance, the Republican candidate for vice president, by saying, “If it was up to him, I wouldn’t have a family because of IVF.”

    In introducing himself to voters as Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris ’ running mate, Walz has made his family’s struggle with fertility a central part of his narrative, a tangible way to connect with voters alarmed at the erosion of reproductive rights in the U.S. But Gwen Walz on Tuesday issued a statement that detailed the experience more comprehensively and disclosed that they relied on a different process known as intrauterine insemination, or IUI.

    So this is a controversy to you? IVF vs IUI? 
    No it is not. Just pointing out the facts about what Tim has said since you gave a quote about it.
  • Tim Simmons
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    edited August 2024
    I’m sure the attack of ‘moving the goal posts’ will be levied, but IUI/IVF, they are both needing medical science to intervene in conception and advocating for the most commonly known one makes sense. 

    Again, if that’s all they have to dig in on, fine. It’s a nothing burger. At the end of the day one party wants it to end and the other has its back. Pretty clear cut on who to support. 
  • Philly NJ
    Philly NJ Posts: 245
    I don't know what exactly IUI/IVF is, but I am all for helping women get pregnant. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Philly NJ said:
    Philly NJ said:
    Did you see JD Vance is calling Walz a liar because him and his wife used IUI and not IVF?

    These people are vile. The disingenuousness oozes from their pores.
    it's disgusting...and Walz never said she used IVF...he said "fertility treatments like IVF"
    Updated 11:42 AM EDT, August 21, 2024
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — In March, after an Alabama court halted in vitro fertilization procedures in the state, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz decided to speak about his struggle to have children with his wife, Gwen. The same month, his team sent a fundraising email titled “our IVF journey” sharing an article that referenced “his family’s IVF journey” in the headline.

    And earlier this month, Walz criticized Ohio Sen. JD Vance, the Republican candidate for vice president, by saying, “If it was up to him, I wouldn’t have a family because of IVF.”

    In introducing himself to voters as Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris ’ running mate, Walz has made his family’s struggle with fertility a central part of his narrative, a tangible way to connect with voters alarmed at the erosion of reproductive rights in the U.S. But Gwen Walz on Tuesday issued a statement that detailed the experience more comprehensively and disclosed that they relied on a different process known as intrauterine insemination, or IUI.

    So this is a controversy to you? IVF vs IUI? 
    No it is not. Just pointing out the facts about what Tim has said since you gave a quote about it.
    I was referring to his statement at the campaign stop...different from what you posted.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Okay making a controversy and spreading it around about the exact name of the fertility treatment the Vanzes used - that's fucked up. This person is a horrible troll and should not be able to post on this forum. Disgraceful. I'm ashamed you have my city in your username. You're a pathetic, bad person.
    Yeah they are going for the "habitual liar" tag for Walz. Ironic since trump lies about everything every fucking day
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,358
    edited August 2024
    Okay making a controversy and spreading it around about the exact name of the fertility treatment the Vanzes used - that's fucked up. This person is a horrible troll and should not be able to post on this forum. Disgraceful. I'm ashamed you have my city in your username. You're a pathetic, bad person.
    Yeah they are going for the "habitual liar" tag for Walz. Ironic since trump lies about everything every fucking day
    Almost as bad as when they play the stupid "gun trivia" game after someone shoots up a school or public place with one of their treasured assault rifles.

    EDIT: or when one of their own homegrown domestic terrorists shoots at their hero
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Okay making a controversy and spreading it around about the exact name of the fertility treatment the Vanzes used - that's fucked up. This person is a horrible troll and should not be able to post on this forum. Disgraceful. I'm ashamed you have my city in your username. You're a pathetic, bad person.
    Yeah they are going for the "habitual liar" tag for Walz. Ironic since trump lies about everything every fucking day
    Almost as bad as when they play the stupid "gun trivia" game after someone shoots up a school or public place with one of their treasured assault rifles.

    EDIT: or when one of their own homegrown domestic terrorists shoots at their hero
    yep...or wear their little AR15 pins on their lapels
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  • mickeyrat
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  • Philly NJ
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    Rally in NC today: President Trump says that all Military Members who Harris Biden kicked out of our Military for refusing the covid mandate will be rehired and given full back pay with an apology from the United States Government.

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Philly NJ said:
    Rally in NC today: President Trump says that all Military Members who Harris Biden kicked out of our Military for refusing the covid mandate will be rehired and given full back pay with an apology from the United States Government.

    lol...and Mexico will pay for it
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  • pjl44
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    Philly NJ said:
    Rally in NC today: President Trump says that all Military Members who Harris Biden kicked out of our Military for refusing the covid mandate will be rehired and given full back pay with an apology from the United States Government.

    lol...and Mexico will pay for it
    To be fair HR477 Back Pay For the Troops would pass the House 434-0 with Thomas Massie abstaining 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    Here we go. Someone call the lawyers.


  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    I think that worm is still eating
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,119
    pjl44 said:
    Here we go. Someone call the lawyers.


    If his supporters can climb out of their conspiracy rabbit holes and actually go to vote, it might be worth 1% nationally. Those folks are just as far gone as MAGA.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • pjl44
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    edited August 2024
    pjl44 said:
    Here we go. Someone call the lawyers.


    If his supporters can climb out of their conspiracy rabbit holes and actually go to vote, it might be worth 1% nationally. Those folks are just as far gone as MAGA.
    On this we agree. I'm sure they exist but I haven't seen any polls that show how the support moves when they ask 3-way vs. 2-way with Harris. I remember seeing some when Biden was still in and it basically split with him and Trump. Didn't seem right to me but who knows.

    Edit: Maybe not clear but I'm saying they poll Harris v Trump v Kennedy then remove Kennedy and ask again 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Philly NJ said:
    I don't know what exactly IUI/IVF is, but I am all for helping women get pregnant. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    pjl44 said:
    Here we go. Someone call the lawyers.


    If his supporters can climb out of their conspiracy rabbit holes and actually go to vote, it might be worth 1% nationally. Those folks are just as far gone as MAGA.
    I predict that he does his best Katharine Hepburn impression when he makes his announcement.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Here we go. Someone call the lawyers.


    If his supporters can climb out of their conspiracy rabbit holes and actually go to vote, it might be worth 1% nationally. Those folks are just as far gone as MAGA.
    On this we agree. I'm sure they exist but I haven't seen any polls that show how the support moves when they ask 3-way vs. 2-way with Harris. I remember seeing some when Biden was still in and it basically split with him and Trump. Didn't seem right to me but who knows.

    Edit: Maybe not clear but I'm saying they poll Harris v Trump v Kennedy then remove Kennedy and ask again 
    My theory is that RFK, jr. Pulled more from POOTWH than Brandon/Kamala and that most of them will return to POOTWH. But those folks are a lost % just like MAGA is. There’s no winning them back, they’re gone. Focus on the “indies,” the vast majority of which are repub or repub leaning and some of which can be convinced to get on board.
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