I dont see how it’s ammo for Trump. I’d rather my leaders be adapt and changed based on the times and the people they lead. A rigidity in ideology is problematic.
but you were talking about debate performance (I assume), not support. I agree she was not supported but there were several candidates running. I don’t think running an unsuccessful campaign precludes you from trying again.
So it’s ok for her to run a far left leaning campaign because it was California but then pivot to a more center moderate campaign (if she ever has policies) in a Presidential run? Wouldn’t that create confusion or inauthenticity?
Democrats don’t care. They are voting on Trump hate only. Policy doesn’t matter. This is a question for the voters that actually matter. Independents and undecided in the 10 or so swing states.
You can’t name two “far left leaning policies” of Kamala’s, beyond your faux talking points.
Let's look at her actions. Her words certainly can't be trusted:
1. She supports DIE. 2. She supports open borders. 3. She supports censorship. 4. She supports mandatory COVID vacs. 5. She supports BLM rioters.
Do you have links or quotes in full context regarding 1-5?
POOTWH, and by extension, you, support 1/6 insurrectionists. Guess we’re even?
Three questions:
1. Did POOTWH legitimately lose the 2020 election?
2. In what year do you figure you’ll be replaced?
3. Was 9/11 an inside job?
In a letter to Congress today, Zuckerberg just admitted to censoring at the request of Harris/Biden.
Also, you mentioned 1/6 insurrectionists. Please remind us all who has been charged and convicted on "insurrection"? Let's stick with facts, not the propaganda feed to all of us for years. If you don't have facts, move on.
What do you call storming the Capitol and interrupting the certification of the electoral college? They should have been charged with insurrection but they weren’t. Lucky them. Oops, seditious conspiracy:
The former national chairman of the Proud Boys was sentenced today for seditious conspiracy and other charges related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. His actions and the actions of others disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress that was in the process of ascertaining and counting the electoral votes related to the 2020 presidential election.
Henry “Enrique” Tarrio, 39, of Miami, Florida, was sentenced to 22 years in prison and 36 months of supervised release.
Which brings up another point, it certainly seems like everyone’s mind is made up for the most part. So what are we even doing here?
I’m having a great time! I don’t know about you. Election Day will be here soon enough! Let’s enjoy the ride. I’ll be here on the first Wednesday in November….. I have a feeling it’s going to be real quiet tho.
That’s fine the ? Will you be here if it’s the other way around?
Sure. I won’t be devastated if Trump loses, like you will if he wins. I’m not emotionally invested. I don’t hate Kamala, I just don’t think she’s done anything as VP to warrant a promotion. She’s done nothing in 5 weeks to change my mind thats she’s ready either.
She didn't instigate a riot.
She sure supported BLM and others during the summer of destruction. For history sake, please provide evidence of instigation. I know many feel Trump did, but never heard him say or infer to enter the Capitol. There are plenty of examples of elected Dems and supporters promoting violence.Internet is forever. Should we compare lists?
My view is that Harris will likely win, by election fraud. See recent election in. Venezuela. Do you think that election had any fraud. They use the same machines we do. Look at the vote margin from the 2020 election in GA, AZ, PA. Would not take much to swing it. Right now, especially in GA, the problems are starting to be more widely known. Would you agree to go back to paper ballots? Didn't seem to have all these problems with paper ballots and limited vote by mail. It is a mess. Really, who ever loses will cry foul. Remember Hillary? Stacy Abrams?
Which brings up another point, it certainly seems like everyone’s mind is made up for the most part. So what are we even doing here?
I’m having a great time! I don’t know about you. Election Day will be here soon enough! Let’s enjoy the ride. I’ll be here on the first Wednesday in November….. I have a feeling it’s going to be real quiet tho.
That’s fine the ? Will you be here if it’s the other way around?
Sure. I won’t be devastated if Trump loses, like you will if he wins. I’m not emotionally invested. I don’t hate Kamala, I just don’t think she’s done anything as VP to warrant a promotion. She’s done nothing in 5 weeks to change my mind thats she’s ready either.
She didn't instigate a riot.
She sure supported BLM and others during the summer of destruction. For history sake, please provide evidence of instigation. I know many feel Trump did, but never heard him say or infer to enter the Capitol. There are plenty of examples of elected Dems and supporters promoting violence.Internet is forever. Should we compare lists?
My view is that Harris will likely win, by election fraud. See recent election in. Venezuela. Do you think that election had any fraud. They use the same machines we do. Look at the vote margin from the 2020 election in GA, AZ, PA. Would not take much to swing it. Right now, especially in GA, the problems are starting to be more widely known. Would you agree to go back to paper ballots? Didn't seem to have all these problems with paper ballots and limited vote by mail. It is a mess. Really, who ever loses will cry foul. Remember Hillary? Stacy Abrams?
Provide evidence? I watched him, I watched the riot. We know he waited hours before saying a word to calm them down. Wtf. I have no interest in 'proving" to you what is obvious to all but the most embedded cultists. If you don't think he was responsible by now, then God Himself couldn't convince you. He's just a RINO.
Ps - there was s fucking scaffolding. That's not normal
Which brings up another point, it certainly seems like everyone’s mind is made up for the most part. So what are we even doing here?
I’m having a great time! I don’t know about you. Election Day will be here soon enough! Let’s enjoy the ride. I’ll be here on the first Wednesday in November….. I have a feeling it’s going to be real quiet tho.
That’s fine the ? Will you be here if it’s the other way around?
Sure. I won’t be devastated if Trump loses, like you will if he wins. I’m not emotionally invested. I don’t hate Kamala, I just don’t think she’s done anything as VP to warrant a promotion. She’s done nothing in 5 weeks to change my mind thats she’s ready either.
She didn't instigate a riot.
She sure supported BLM and others during the summer of destruction. For history sake, please provide evidence of instigation. I know many feel Trump did, but never heard him say or infer to enter the Capitol. There are plenty of examples of elected Dems and supporters promoting violence.Internet is forever. Should we compare lists?
My view is that Harris will likely win, by election fraud. See recent election in. Venezuela. Do you think that election had any fraud. They use the same machines we do. Look at the vote margin from the 2020 election in GA, AZ, PA. Would not take much to swing it. Right now, especially in GA, the problems are starting to be more widely known. Would you agree to go back to paper ballots? Didn't seem to have all these problems with paper ballots and limited vote by mail. It is a mess. Really, who ever loses will cry foul. Remember Hillary? Stacy Abrams?
You should research the states with exclusive vote by before claiming it’s a mess. And do you realize you’ve just prompted yourself to believe the lies that will 100% happen if Trump loses in November?
Which brings up another point, it certainly seems like everyone’s mind is made up for the most part. So what are we even doing here?
I’m having a great time! I don’t know about you. Election Day will be here soon enough! Let’s enjoy the ride. I’ll be here on the first Wednesday in November….. I have a feeling it’s going to be real quiet tho.
That’s fine the ? Will you be here if it’s the other way around?
Sure. I won’t be devastated if Trump loses, like you will if he wins. I’m not emotionally invested. I don’t hate Kamala, I just don’t think she’s done anything as VP to warrant a promotion. She’s done nothing in 5 weeks to change my mind thats she’s ready either.
She didn't instigate a riot.
She sure supported BLM and others during the summer of destruction. For history sake, please provide evidence of instigation. I know many feel Trump did, but never heard him say or infer to enter the Capitol. There are plenty of examples of elected Dems and supporters promoting violence.Internet is forever. Should we compare lists?
My view is that Harris will likely win, by election fraud. See recent election in. Venezuela. Do you think that election had any fraud. They use the same machines we do. Look at the vote margin from the 2020 election in GA, AZ, PA. Would not take much to swing it. Right now, especially in GA, the problems are starting to be more widely known. Would you agree to go back to paper ballots? Didn't seem to have all these problems with paper ballots and limited vote by mail. It is a mess. Really, who ever loses will cry foul. Remember Hillary? Stacy Abrams?
You should research the states with exclusive vote by before claiming it’s a mess. And do you realize you’ve just prompted yourself to believe the lies that will 100% happen if Trump loses in November?
He was likely prompted to believe it in 2016 too in case Trump lost.....and then he likely paid little to no attention this:
So you’re saying he didn’t change his mind at all?
he is currently back to it should be a state issue.
he was pro choice years ago, then so pro life that abortion should be banned and women should face penalty for having an abortion, to it should be a state issue, then he disavowed project 2025 and abortion ban associated with that, now he is back to it should be a state issue.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Kamala gets endorsed by these folks, you know, normal, while POOTWH gets endorsed by a bear posing as killed by a cyclist in Central Park and whale beheading tie its head to the minivan roof highway driving guy.
Hundreds of former Bush, McCain and Romney staffers endorse Harris
The group of more than 200 Republicans said a second Trump presidency “will hurt real, everyday people and weaken our sacred institutions.”
More than 200 Republicans who worked for President George W. Bush, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) or the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) have endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, warning in a letter that a second Trump presidency “will hurt real, everyday people and weaken our sacred institutions.”
The open letter with the endorsement was first published Monday in USA Today, with 238 signatures.
The group of former Bush, McCain and Romney staffers issued a similar letter supporting Joe Bidenwhen he ran against Trump in 2020. In their new, pro-Harris letter, alumni from those three top Republicans were joined by at least five former staffers to the late President George H.W. Bush.
In the letter, the GOP alumni wrote that they are voting for Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, despite policy differences.
“Of course, we have plenty of honest, ideological disagreements with Vice President Harris and Gov. Walz,” they wrote. “That’s to be expected. The alternative, however, is simply untenable.”
Those who signed the pro-Harris letter include Jean Becker, George H.W. Bush’s chief of staff; Mark Salter and Chris Koch, former chiefs of staff for McCain; David Nierenberg, Romney’s 2012 campaign finance chair; and David Garman, undersecretary for energy under George W. Bush.
The letter is not only supportive of Harris but critical of Trump. In it, the Republican alumni say Trump presents a threat to the United States and countries around the world, saying that he and his “acolyte,” running mate Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), “kowtow to dictators like [Russian President] Vladimir Putin while turning their backs on our allies. We can’t let that happen.”
The group also wrote that “moderate Republicans and conservative independents in key swing states” were key in securing Biden’s 2020 victory as they “put country far before party” — and that they must once again “take a brave stand” in this election and support Harris over Trump.
In response to the letter, Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung said in an email that the group “would rather see the country burn down than to see President Trump successfully return to the White House.”
The letter highlights the continued divisions among Republicans over the party’s embrace of Trump. At the Democratic National Convention last week, several Republicans came out in support of Harris.
Stephanie Grisham, who served as Trump’s press secretary as well as chief of staff to first lady Melania Trump, described her evolution from “true believer” to a critic of the former president, saying that the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection was her last straw, The Washington Post reported. Grisham also claimed in her speech that behind closed doors, Trump mocked his supporters as “basement dwellers.” (In response, the Trump campaign described her as a “stone cold loser.”)
Other Republicans who spoke at the convention included John Giles, the mayor of Mesa, Ariz., and former congressman Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, one of 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump.
Regarding taxes and IRS policies, you know, a little reality goes a long way. But tell us again about being sheeple, please?
From WaPo:
Treasury and the IRS have no plans to move forward with the voluntary program and, as such, there are no new reporting or compliance components,” Treasury spokeswoman Ashley Schapitl told The Fact Checker. “We continue to carefully consider comments received in response to the proposed guidance.”
The ad, however, falsely claims the proposal has already been implemented, with such lines as: “Biden and Harris have literally unleashed the IRS to harass workers who receive tips.”
Nope, that’s false.
The ad also tries to project verisimilitude by claiming “news reports confirm” that the Biden administration “weaponized the IRS to confiscate your tip money.” The citations are from conservative news organizations or interest groups in 2023. They were echoing talking points released by House Republicans in 2023 eager to claim that Biden had violated his pledge not to increase audits of people making less than $400,000. The pledge was made after the IRS received an influx of tens of billions of dollars to improve service and boost audits of wealthy Americans.
Last month, the IRS said that as result of the additional resources, it has collected $1 billion in back taxes from about 1,500 delinquent millionaires and billionaires.
Olson said the images in the ad were especially misleading because criminal investigators — the IRS agents who invade homes — are not in the business of conducting audits and because about 85 percent of audits are a letter from the IRS asking for more information.
The Trump campaign noted that the lowest wage earners are audited at a much higher rate than the wealthy. But the report it cited attributed that problem to the IRS being starved of funds and unable to hire enough agents. (This was before Biden obtained $80 billion from Congress for the agency.) In a September letter to Congress, IRS Commissioner Danny Werfel said the agency was seeking to reduce correspondence audits of people who took advantage of tax credits aimed at lower-income workers.
In a statement, the Trump campaign falsely accused the Biden administration of wanting to hire “an army of 87,000 new IRS agents” (a Four-Pinocchio claim) and insisted Harris and Biden “want this newly empowered IRS to target tipped workers.”
The Pinocchio Test
To recap, the Trump campaign claims Harris can’t be trusted on her no-tax tip plan because the IRS proposed a plan to streamline three programs to help employers calculate tip income. But the proposal has been shelved. So, leaving aside the exaggerations about what the proposal would do, it’s simply false to claim Harris “literally unleashed the IRS to harass workers who receive tips.”
Or manufacturing jobs at that FoxxCON plant in Ohio?
that was Mn or Wis
ohio got intel. thanks to brandon. its not on schedule but the place is fucking huge....
superload #16 should deliver in a day or two.. 4 of which weighed 912k lbs...... yes almost a millon pounds.
What’s that in kilos?
I thought there was an Ohio plant shovel turn photo op that never came to fruition but I could be wrong? It may very well have been Wisconsin or Michigan. Too many failures, I mean winning, to keep track of unless you’re in the know with Faux.
Foxconn was Mn or Wis. cant be bothered to look up which but was definitely up that way. leaning wisconsin cause of scott walker....
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Or manufacturing jobs at that FoxxCON plant in Ohio?
that was Mn or Wis
ohio got intel. thanks to brandon. its not on schedule but the place is fucking huge....
superload #16 should deliver in a day or two.. 4 of which weighed 912k lbs...... yes almost a millon pounds.
What’s that in kilos?
I thought there was an Ohio plant shovel turn photo op that never came to fruition but I could be wrong? It may very well have been Wisconsin or Michigan. Too many failures, I mean winning, to keep track of unless you’re in the know with Faux.
Foxconn was Mn or Wis. cant be bothered to look up which but was definitely up that way. leaning wisconsin cause of scott walker....
Or manufacturing jobs at that FoxxCON plant in Ohio?
that was Mn or Wis
ohio got intel. thanks to brandon. its not on schedule but the place is fucking huge....
superload #16 should deliver in a day or two.. 4 of which weighed 912k lbs...... yes almost a millon pounds.
What’s that in kilos?
I thought there was an Ohio plant shovel turn photo op that never came to fruition but I could be wrong? It may very well have been Wisconsin or Michigan. Too many failures, I mean winning, to keep track of unless you’re in the know with Faux.
Foxconn was Mn or Wis. cant be bothered to look up which but was definitely up that way. leaning wisconsin cause of scott walker....
Ahhh, yes, Wisconsin and Scott Walker. Whatever happened to that fucking guy?
Which brings up another point, it certainly seems like everyone’s mind is made up for the most part. So what are we even doing here?
Exchanging ideas. We probably aren't changing each other's minds much in the moment but it's a good exercise to check your beliefs (consciously or subconsciously). I'd rather have these conversations with people I mostly disagree with even if it gets a little chippy sometimes.
Also, you're performing for lurkers so make your best arguments!
I guess PJ44 and other "independents" are maintaining their intellectual integrity while the Marxists from the Bush, McCain and Romney teams have gone full Commie. I knew it all along..
To me, it's this simple and that's why I said I'd support shitting on sidewalks compared to supporting Trump.
“Of course, we have plenty of honest, ideological disagreements with Vice President Harris and Gov. Walz. That’s to be expected. The alternative, however, is simply untenable,” the Republicans wrote.
They added, “At home, another four years of Donald Trump’s chaotic leadership, this time focused on advancing the dangerous goals of Project 2025, will hurt real, everyday people and weaken our sacred institutions. Abroad, democratic movements will be irreparably jeopardized as Trump and his acolyte JD Vance kowtow to dictators like Vladimir Putin while turning their backs on our allies.”
It's funny my first thought when I saw this headline was "I wonder if any of the subjects of the NEOCON posters are on the list?"
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
Big money spending on ads. One that I found most interesting:
The ad with the most money behind it — $25 million — is an anti-Harris ad from a super PAC supporting Trump, MAGA Inc. It attacks her on her record on handling immigrants in the U.S. illegally during her time as a prosecutor.
The ad also alleges that Harris “let” Ramos “go” on another crime before he committed the murder. The facts on this are complicated. Ramos had been pulled over for illegally tinted windows and no front license plate. The passenger in the car, Erik Lopez, got out and ran. Police saw Lopez toss a gun into a gutter. Both men were arrested. But Harris did not bring charges against Ramos because, as the San Francisco Chronicle reported per Harris’ office “there was no evidence that Ramos had known that Lopez had a gun.”
Despite his immigration status, Ramos was not turned over to federal authorities because of San Francisco’s policy of being a “sanctuary city.” But, at the time, Harris opposed the city’s policy of not turning juveniles in the country illegally over to federal authorities. Ironically, she actually had to contend with criticism from the left on this in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary.
come on. talk about how the administration pressured zuck to throttle covid disinformation and he didn't do it when he should have and people got sick and died.
talk about that now.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Came out yesterday. Please keep saving Democracy for us!
1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
come on. talk about how the administration pressured zuck to throttle covid disinformation and he didn't do it when he should have and people got sick and died.
talk about that now.
Party of censorship! Please save Democracy for me! Gimme some more lies!
1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
come on. talk about how the administration pressured zuck to throttle covid disinformation and he didn't do it when he should have and people got sick and died.
talk about that now.
Party of censorship! Please save Democracy for me! Gimme some more lies!
in a time of worldwide pandemic where stupid people believe whatever is posted on facebook even if patently false, you are god damned right it should have been throttled.
also, stop taking shots at my screen name. this is at least the 3rd time i've seen it.
teske incorporated sounds like a company. you work there?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
3 year anniversary of the botched Afghanistan withdrawal yesterday. Families of the 13 killed at Abbey Gate stated neither Kamala Harris or Joe Biden never contacted them offering condolences. Thank you Kamala for being the last one in the room!
At least Joe offered condolences to the guy in Kabul he blew up loading water bottles in his trunk.
How sick are Biden and Harris?
1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
3 year anniversary of the botched Afghanistan withdrawal yesterday. Families of the 13 killed at Abbey Gate stated neither Kamala Harris or Joe Biden never contacted them offering condolences. Thank you Kamala for being the last one in the room!
At least Joe offered condolences to the guy in Kabul he blew up loading water bottles in his trunk.
How sick are Biden and Harris?
President Biden’s choices for how to execute a withdrawal from Afghanistan were
severely constrained by conditions created by his predecessor. When President Trump
took office in 2017, there were more than 10,000 troops in Afghanistan. Eighteen
months later, after introducing more than 3,000 additional troops just to maintain the
stalemate, President Trump ordered direct talks with the Taliban without consulting with
our allies and partners or allowing the Afghan government at the negotiating table. In
September 2019, President Trump embolded the Taliban by publicly considering inviting
them to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11. In February 2020, the United States
and the Taliban reached a deal, known as the Doha Agreement, under which the United
States agreed to withdraw all U.S. forces from Afghanistan by May 2021. In return, the
Taliban agreed to participate in a peace process and refrain from attacking U.S. troops
and threatening Afghanistan’s major cities—but only as long as the United States
remained committed to withdraw by the agreement’s deadline. As part of the deal,
President Trump also pressured the Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban
fighters from prison, including senior war commanders, without securing the release of
the only American hostage known to be held by the Taliban.
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The former national chairman of the Proud Boys was sentenced today for seditious conspiracy and other charges related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. His actions and the actions of others disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress that was in the process of ascertaining and counting the electoral votes related to the 2020 presidential election.
Henry “Enrique” Tarrio, 39, of Miami, Florida, was sentenced to 22 years in prison and 36 months of supervised release.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/proud-boys-leader-sentenced-22-years-prison-seditious-conspiracy-and-other-charges-related
Link to your letter from Zuck? And the relevance?
Three questions:
1. Did POOTWH legitimately lose the 2020 election?
2. In what year do you figure you’ll be replaced?
3. Was 9/11 an inside job?
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Ps - there was s fucking scaffolding. That's not normal
https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d
he was pro choice years ago, then so pro life that abortion should be banned and women should face penalty for having an abortion, to it should be a state issue, then he disavowed project 2025 and abortion ban associated with that, now he is back to it should be a state issue.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Hundreds of former Bush, McCain and Romney staffers endorse Harris
The group of more than 200 Republicans said a second Trump presidency “will hurt real, everyday people and weaken our sacred institutions.”
More than 200 Republicans who worked for President George W. Bush, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) or the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) have endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, warning in a letter that a second Trump presidency “will hurt real, everyday people and weaken our sacred institutions.”
The open letter with the endorsement was first published Monday in USA Today, with 238 signatures.
The group of former Bush, McCain and Romney staffers issued a similar letter supporting Joe Bidenwhen he ran against Trump in 2020. In their new, pro-Harris letter, alumni from those three top Republicans were joined by at least five former staffers to the late President George H.W. Bush.
In the letter, the GOP alumni wrote that they are voting for Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, despite policy differences.
“Of course, we have plenty of honest, ideological disagreements with Vice President Harris and Gov. Walz,” they wrote. “That’s to be expected. The alternative, however, is simply untenable.”
Those who signed the pro-Harris letter include Jean Becker, George H.W. Bush’s chief of staff; Mark Salter and Chris Koch, former chiefs of staff for McCain; David Nierenberg, Romney’s 2012 campaign finance chair; and David Garman, undersecretary for energy under George W. Bush.
The letter is not only supportive of Harris but critical of Trump. In it, the Republican alumni say Trump presents a threat to the United States and countries around the world, saying that he and his “acolyte,” running mate Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), “kowtow to dictators like [Russian President] Vladimir Putin while turning their backs on our allies. We can’t let that happen.”
The group also wrote that “moderate Republicans and conservative independents in key swing states” were key in securing Biden’s 2020 victory as they “put country far before party” — and that they must once again “take a brave stand” in this election and support Harris over Trump.
In response to the letter, Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung said in an email that the group “would rather see the country burn down than to see President Trump successfully return to the White House.”
The letter highlights the continued divisions among Republicans over the party’s embrace of Trump. At the Democratic National Convention last week, several Republicans came out in support of Harris.
Stephanie Grisham, who served as Trump’s press secretary as well as chief of staff to first lady Melania Trump, described her evolution from “true believer” to a critic of the former president, saying that the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection was her last straw, The Washington Post reported. Grisham also claimed in her speech that behind closed doors, Trump mocked his supporters as “basement dwellers.” (In response, the Trump campaign described her as a “stone cold loser.”)
Other Republicans who spoke at the convention included John Giles, the mayor of Mesa, Ariz., and former congressman Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, one of 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/26/republicans-endorse-harris-bush-romney-mccain/
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From WaPo:
Treasury and the IRS have no plans to move forward with the voluntary program and, as such, there are no new reporting or compliance components,” Treasury spokeswoman Ashley Schapitl told The Fact Checker. “We continue to carefully consider comments received in response to the proposed guidance.”
The ad, however, falsely claims the proposal has already been implemented, with such lines as: “Biden and Harris have literally unleashed the IRS to harass workers who receive tips.”
Nope, that’s false.
The ad also tries to project verisimilitude by claiming “news reports confirm” that the Biden administration “weaponized the IRS to confiscate your tip money.” The citations are from conservative news organizations or interest groups in 2023. They were echoing talking points released by House Republicans in 2023 eager to claim that Biden had violated his pledge not to increase audits of people making less than $400,000. The pledge was made after the IRS received an influx of tens of billions of dollars to improve service and boost audits of wealthy Americans.
Last month, the IRS said that as result of the additional resources, it has collected $1 billion in back taxes from about 1,500 delinquent millionaires and billionaires.
Olson said the images in the ad were especially misleading because criminal investigators — the IRS agents who invade homes — are not in the business of conducting audits and because about 85 percent of audits are a letter from the IRS asking for more information.
The Trump campaign noted that the lowest wage earners are audited at a much higher rate than the wealthy. But the report it cited attributed that problem to the IRS being starved of funds and unable to hire enough agents. (This was before Biden obtained $80 billion from Congress for the agency.) In a September letter to Congress, IRS Commissioner Danny Werfel said the agency was seeking to reduce correspondence audits of people who took advantage of tax credits aimed at lower-income workers.
In a statement, the Trump campaign falsely accused the Biden administration of wanting to hire “an army of 87,000 new IRS agents” (a Four-Pinocchio claim) and insisted Harris and Biden “want this newly empowered IRS to target tipped workers.”
The Pinocchio Test
To recap, the Trump campaign claims Harris can’t be trusted on her no-tax tip plan because the IRS proposed a plan to streamline three programs to help employers calculate tip income. But the proposal has been shelved. So, leaving aside the exaggerations about what the proposal would do, it’s simply false to claim Harris “literally unleashed the IRS to harass workers who receive tips.”
The Trump campaign earns Four Pinocchios.
Four Pinocchios
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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Also, you're performing for lurkers so make your best arguments!
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
The ad with the most money behind it — $25 million — is an anti-Harris ad from a super PAC supporting Trump, MAGA Inc. It attacks her on her record on handling immigrants in the U.S. illegally during her time as a prosecutor.
But a charge in the ad, while it has a kernel of truth, is misleading. Her office convicted Edwin Ramos, a member of the MS-13 gang, for the murder of a father and two sons. Ramos is now serving three consecutive life sentences. Following through on a campaign promise, Harris did not seek the death penalty, a decision conservatives have criticized.
The ad also alleges that Harris “let” Ramos “go” on another crime before he committed the murder. The facts on this are complicated. Ramos had been pulled over for illegally tinted windows and no front license plate. The passenger in the car, Erik Lopez, got out and ran. Police saw Lopez toss a gun into a gutter. Both men were arrested. But Harris did not bring charges against Ramos because, as the San Francisco Chronicle reported per Harris’ office “there was no evidence that Ramos had known that Lopez had a gun.”
Despite his immigration status, Ramos was not turned over to federal authorities because of San Francisco’s policy of being a “sanctuary city.” But, at the time, Harris opposed the city’s policy of not turning juveniles in the country illegally over to federal authorities. Ironically, she actually had to contend with criticism from the left on this in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary.
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/g-s1-19636/trump-ad-spending-harris
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
talk about that now.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
also, stop taking shots at my screen name. this is at least the 3rd time i've seen it.
teske incorporated sounds like a company. you work there?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
At least Joe offered condolences to the guy in Kabul he blew up loading water bottles in his trunk.
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
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